KingEbukaNaija:


Worshiping is simply a show of acknowledgement and respect . You can acknowledge/respect someone as your king/master/superior or show your submission or obsequiousness by bowing down

Do you honestly think that you have answered the question, 'What is the man doing?'

dmandy:


Great, does that also mean that Paul never saw any other servant who could be referred to as 'apostle' other than James or was he talking of the twelve apostles? Can we for once read the text in context.

He clearly said the Lord's brother . Let's view from that context

dmandy:


Do you honestly think that you have answered the question, 'What is the man doing?'

Bowing down but not in reverence , adoration or glorification .

KingEbukaNaija:


He clearly said the Lord's brother . Let's view from that context

Yes many people were also referred to as the Jesus's brother. No?

dmandy:
Yes many people were also referred to as the Jesus's brother. No?

Many people like who ? Can you give names ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Bowing down but not in reverence , adoration or glorification .

I didn't get you. Are you saying that the man is bowing down but he is not doing it out of reverence?

dmandy:


I never saw my Science teacher until he died. Does this mean that I saw him after he died?

If you never saw him before and after dying,then telling us you never saw him over a specific period is redundant.

If you have never been outside Nigeria,and you told us as much, there is no point in listing the number of countries you've never been to.

Or even better, if in your entire life you have never stepped outside Nigeria, it is pointless telling us that by the age of 5 you had yet to step outside Nigeria.

Supposing somebody who knows your life intimately is informing us that you have never been outside Nigeria all your life. He would only need to inform us that you have never been outside Nigeria. If he informs us that over your first 5 years you never stepped outside,he leaves it open whether you stepped out subsequently or not. If your stepping outside is ever so relevant to his narration, and if you did step outside, he would be deliberately obfuscating this point. He would only make sense if he only knows about your venturing out up to age 5. So we can't blame his ignorance of whatever happened to you after 5.

Sleeping with Mary is an activity that can continue before and after Jesus' birth. If Joseph never slept with Mary throughout, what's the point of telling us he never slept with her over Jesus' gestation?

dmandy:


I didn't get you. Are you saying that the man is bowing down but he is not doing it out of reverence?

He is like : Man of God , I dey hail oo . He is a comedian I hope you realize that ? There is no level of seriousness whatsoever shown in what he is doing

1. Is he saying any word of prayer to them in glorification of an act ?

2. Is he showing any form of commitment to the bowing down ?

3. Is there any spiritualism involved in his bowing down ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Many people like who ? Can you give names ?

Many people like dmandy.

dmandy:
Many people like dmandy.

Taking lameness to the moon

KingEbukaNaija:


He is like : Man of God , I dey hail oo . He is a comedian I hope you realize that ? There is no level of seriousness whatsoever shown in what he is doing

1. Is he saying any word of prayer to them in glorification of an act ?

2. Is he showing any form of commitment to the bowing down ?

3. Is there any spiritualism involved in his bowing down ?

Sir,

you like complicating issues. For your questions,

1. I don't know, I wasn't there.
2. Yes, he didn't just bow down he lay down.
3. Yes.

vooks:

Taking lameness to the moon

explain.

dmandy:
Many people like dmandy.

Seriously for real

dmandy:
explain.

Who are these brethren of Jesus who sought to speak to him?

vooks:

If you never saw him before and after dying,then telling us you never saw him over a specific period is redundant.

If you have never been outside Nigeria,and you told us as much, there is no point in listing the number of countries you've never been to.

Or even better, if in your entire life you have never stepped outside Nigeria, it is pointless telling us that by the age of 5 you had yet to step outside Nigeria

Sleeping with Mary is an activity that can continue before and after Jesus' birth. If Joseph never slept with Mary throughout, what's the point of telling us he never slept with her over Jesus' gestation?

First, is it grammatically correct to say that I never saw him till he died? Secondly, if I have said it in my native language and there was actually a point of saying it in my native Igbo language and you translate it thus. Is it possible that one reading it might misinterpret?

vooks:


Who are these brethren of Jesus who sought to speak to him?

could as well be his kinsmen.

KingEbukaNaija:


Seriously for real

For real

dmandy:
could as well be his kinsmen.

They were his distant cousins


Now, please 'settle the rest' namely;
1. Mary's in heaven
2. Mary was sinless
3. Mary was a perpetual virgin

dmandy:


First, is it grammatically correct to say that I never saw him till he died?

It is VERY grammatical but grossly irrelevant and misleading analogy for you can't see somebody alive once they die whereas Joseph could have slept with Mary after Jesus was born

Your assignment
Use 'until' or 'till' in a sentence referencing any activity that is perfectly capable of continuing past the birth of a child.
Example;
' they lived together until their firstborn was born...'

Perfect example but if this couple for sure stayed together for 50 years and the writer knows this, then he misleads us or at least withholds this information.

Secondly, if I have said it in my native language and there was actually a point of saying it in my native Igbo language and you translate it thus. Is it possible that one reading it might misinterpret?

Yes, there is risk of misinterpretation so it's quite possible Jesus was never born of a virgin in the first place
It gets worse, an old shriveled pope may have commanded his minions to celebrate but they misconstrued it as celibate leading to the infamous gay Satanist dens where our sons lose their virginity to male satanists

dmandy:


Sir,

you like complicating issues. For your questions,

1. I don't know, I wasn't there.
2. Yes, he didn't just bow down he lay down.
3. Yes.

Then If you see that as worship then you Catholics worship Mary

dmandy:


Just go ahead and prove to me that the woman had other children. It's that simple.

According to the scriptures Mary was not a perpetual virgin.

Look at this scripture;

Matthew 1v24 -Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

The verse said Joseph did not have sex with Mary until she gave birth to Jesus. What does that imply or mean? It means Joseph and Mary had sex after the birth of Jesus.

These are other translations of the same verse:

New International Version

Matthew 1v25 -But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

New Living Translation

Matthew 1v25 -But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

New American Standard Bible

Matthew 1v25 -but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

That Joseph did not have sex with Mary until Jesus was born can only mean that Mary and Joseph had sexual relations after the birth of Christ.

Secondly, Jesus was called the firstborn of Mary in that same verse. Jesus would not be called the firstborn of Mary, if He was the only child of Mary.

Matthew 1v25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

If Jesus was the only son of Mary, He would not be called her firstborn. Would He?

Clearly from these verses, Mary had other sons, and they were not virgin births like Jesus. Because Joseph and Mary had sexual relations after Jesus was born.

Shalom

ayoku777:


According to the scriptures Mary was not a perpetual virgin.

Look at this scripture;

Matthew 1v24 -Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

The verse said Joseph did not have sex with Mary until she gave birth to Jesus. What does that imply or mean? It means Joseph and Mary had sex after the birth of Jesus.

These are other translations of the same verse:

New International Version

Matthew 1v25 -But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

New Living Translation

Matthew 1v25 -But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

New American Standard Bible

Matthew 1v25 -but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

That Joseph did not have sex with Mary until Jesus was born can only mean that Mary and Joseph had sexual relations after the birth of Christ.

Secondly, Jesus was called the firstborn of Mary in that same verse. Jesus would not be called the firstborn of Mary, if He was the only child of Mary.

Matthew 1v25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

If Jesus was the only son of Mary, He would not be called her firstborn. Would He?

Clearly from these verses, Mary had other sons, and they were not virgin births like Jesus. Because Joseph and Mary had sexual relations after Jesus was born.

Shalom

Shalom,

Dear Sir,

Jesus is called the first born according to Colossians 1:15.

I never saw my science teacher again until he died? Did that automatically translate to me seeing him after he died?

KingEbukaNaija:


Then If you see that as worship then you Catholics worship Mary

okay

vooks:

It is VERY grammatical but grossly irrelevant and misleading analogy for you can't see somebody alive once they die whereas Joseph could have slept with Mary after Jesus was born

Your assignment
Use 'until' or 'till' in a sentence referencing any activity that is perfectly capable of continuing past the birth of a child.
Example;
' they lived together until their firstborn was born...'

Perfect example but if this couple for sure stayed together for 50 years and the writer knows this, then he misleads us or at least withholds this information.


Yes, there is risk of misinterpretation so it's quite possible Jesus was never born of a virgin in the first place
It gets worse, an old shriveled pope may have commanded his minions to celebrate but they misconstrued it as celibate leading to the infamous gay Satanist dens where our sons lose their virginity to male satanists

Thank you it is grammatically correct. I rest my case.

vooks:

They were his distant cousins


Now, please 'settle the rest' namely;
1. Mary's in heaven
2. Mary was sinless
3. Mary was a perpetual virgin

Good,

I am glad you have come to know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

dmandy:


Good,

I am glad you have come to know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

I merely agreed with you to remove every excuse you may have had for your failure to back up your claims.

With that out of the way, please prove these;
1. Mary was sinless
2. Mary was a perpetual virgin
3. Mary is in heaven

Cc Ayoku777,brocab,italo,ichiato,KingEbukaNaija,ubenedictus

dmandy:


Thank you it is grammatically correct. I rest my case.

Your case is still open

Prove the following;
1. Mary was sinless
2. Mary was a perpetual virgin
3. Mary is in heaven

Or at the very least admit you have no basis for your claims. I also believe so many things without proof. For instance, I believe my iPad is cute

vooks:

I merely agreed with you to remove every excuse you may have had for your failure to back up your claims.


Cc Ayoku777,brocab,italo,ichiato,KingEbukaNaija,ubenedictus

The dude was too blind to see it

dmandy defend your claims , no need to be succinct , make it elaborate and well detailed with scriptural proof backing every claim

KingEbukaNaija:


The dude was too blind to see it

dmandy defend your claims , no need to be succinct , make it elaborate and well detailed with scriptural proof backing every claim

Or?

You are yet to answer my question about the other Mary. When I am discussing with you, it's you but when I talk with the vooks, you read.

vooks:

Your case is still open

Prove the following;
1. Mary was sinless
2. Mary was a perpetual virgin
3. Mary is in heaven

Or at the very least admit you have no basis for your claims. I also believe so many things without proof. For instance, I believe my iPad is cute

Just come clean. Have you agreed what the bible said that Mary had no other children?

KingEbukaNaija:


The dude was too blind to see it

dmandy defend your claims , no need to be succinct , make it elaborate and well detailed with scriptural proof backing every claim

Mr King,
Shall we take the inability of Catholicism's finest to back up their claims so far as evidence that those claims are totally unbiblical, or should we presume that they are blind believers of stuff they can't demonstrate from the scriptures, and hope that some higher-ups in Catholicism can bail them out?

They have had over 3 days of consulting and googling,reciting rosaries, burning incense and nonsense, praying to statues and seeking Virgin Mary to possess them,consulting 'Paul' and so forth. Am reminded of Elijah on Mt. Carmel

dmandy:


Just come clean. Have you agreed [size=18pt]what the bible said that Mary had no other children?[/size]

And where did the bible say so?


Note to KingEbukaNaija,
Which is easier, claiming 'the bible said', or showing us exactly where the 'bible said'?