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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by wristbangle: 5:40pm On Dec 30, 2015
masterpower:
You should ask yourself What Next For THE CRIMINAL Southwest AND THEIR FULANI SLAVE MASTERS?

THAT IS WHY WE TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT B.1.A.F.R.A IS NOT ABOUT CRUDE OIL BUT ABOUT addressing THE WICKEDNESS OF THE CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA.

THE IGBOS ARE DOING WONDERS WITHOUT OIL.

You deserves one year BAN angry

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
sukkot:
yeah lots of wonders in indonesia lipsrsealed

Envy and jealousy will kill you, the igbo nation is miles ahead, you cant compare an igboman with a black faced ofe mmanu
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 5:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:


Firstly you are wrong on Ogun having the largest deposits of limestone, that record goes to Sokoto which has the worlds largest reserves.

Secondly, this is exploitative mining and not entrepreneurship .

Abi we go chop cement?

The deposits in Ogun were exploited to meet the housing demand in Lagos.

And besides I can bet you have just one cement factory in Ogun. Is this factory going to employ everybody in Ogun and is it going to form the next Sony which started off as a one man venture?




The SW has the largest limestone deposits in west africa,if not africa.


www.thisdaylive.com/articles/the-case-for-solid-minerals-development/215779/

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 5:43pm On Dec 30, 2015
Flyoruboy:


Err... Jonathan said it, not me. undecided cheesy E pain am. I understand how you must feel, knowing how inconsequential your SE region really is economically. That's why no one batted an eye when your iPod touts held your region hostage in the name of protests, starving your poor traders, coz y'all just... aren't that important in the largest scheme of things, especially economically. undecided Imagine if that happened in either Lagos/Ogun or the Niger-Delta, the real cash-cows and economic powerhouses, oh boy! grin grin

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I am from Delta you twerp.

And I am stating that Ogun is dependent on foriegn investments who employ temporal factory labourers while Aba is host to a thriving SME industries who get to keep and reinvest their profits and that is why you will see them building mansions in their mid 30's while your like will be pushing CVs on the net looking for a 400k tops job.

If you don't understand my point on why I said Aba is more perpeared than any region to spearhead a diverse economy and promote local firms then you will never get my drift.

Now park

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by PigMeat: 5:44pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:


What they don't know is that Niger Delta has always been rich and will continue to be rich.

The last 40 years was a devastating blow to the prosperity of the ND after the military regime made oil a national resource.

The problem with these set of ignoramus is that if they really assume the oil is worthless let them stop selling crude. Let them grant full resource control to the Niger Delta over their oil and see how they will maintain their parasitic economy.
Don't mind the gullible hunger stricken fellows. After oil, we have many other resources to feed them like we have always fed them. Hungry people. They should worry more about their future without oil than ours, cause they have been the highest beneficiaries and still remain one of the poorest persons in africa. we have been feeding them from onset, even before genesis was made and we will continue feeding till Jesus come. ND to the bone!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by swezenberg(m): 5:44pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


The question ought to be "how will states like Oun cope?"


The ND will still get more revenue from oil than Osun.

So never mind about us, go and ask your rascal governor why monthly allocations from Abuja are now jus 55 million naira.

Osun will revert to Gold and Cocoa. They have the largest Gold deposit in Nigeria and second in terms of Cocoa production after Ondo
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/08/osun-gold-fields-suffering-in-the-midst-of-abundant-precious-deposits/

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by wristbangle: 5:44pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:
The decline of the oil industry is going to be worse on the states of Lagos and kano.

Lagos because an analysis of the igr of Lagos shows that Lagos derived it's revenue from the income tax and the income tax bulk is from the oil workers whose offices are in Lagos.
The oil and gas component of the Lagos igr is more than 40% of the igr. Income tax paid by high earning oil and gas industry executive who gross average of N5m monthly has helped Lagos


Secondly kano will be the worst hit as the only state whose take home is equivalent to the take home of niger delta states with their 13% derivative.

Kano doesn't have the human capital to generate income tax.

Third state /city is Abuja. It is said that Abuja was built with oil money, where would the money to sustain and maintain Abuja come from if not the same money from niger delta.

Some states like kwara, benue, adamawa can easily with agriculture fight the downturn of their economy, how would sokoto, yobe, jigawa whose populace don't farm and whose land is far from economic centres for export of agricultural products survive.

The next in line are the hausa cities of katsina, batching, kaduna who benefitted from the lopsided federal allocations. Now that the oil wealth is going and there is no human capital we hope they will not turn to insurgency as a means of raising attention and revenue.

The states that would enjoy and be kings in the new dispensation.

Anambra, Nigeria's brain box and commercial hub will have its non oil economy growth unequalled and unrivaled. Anambra survived with no oil allocation managed the little it had and built an enabling environment for investments.

Akwa Ibom, this state was blessed with resources and good managers who used it very well to grow infrastructure and are currently working on a sea port.

Abia this state hosts aba, Nigeria's city of enterprise and football, aba is living beyond oil already.

SMH @ Lagos and Kano derives IGR from oil. Please where is your source MR. Man?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by erico2k2(m): 5:45pm On Dec 30, 2015
Bryan37:
It's no news that only 13% of 2016 budget will be funded by the SALE of Crude

Which means that Nigeria is gradually diversifying its economy away from the Oil sector which is expected to even "nose down more". By d time Iran starts pumping their Oil into the international Market, also with d demand for cleaner energy rising day by day and d Cost becoming cheaper and cheaper, I can tell u that in d Next 20 yrs a bucket of Clean water may worth more than a bucket of toxic crude.


What will become of ND a report that has been raped by the Nigeria Government for the past 10 decade

I keep wondering if d OIL was a gift or a curse to this region which made them so Lazy, Corrupt and underdeveloped. Infact d most popular Slogan in d Niger Delta is " our oyel".

The only time ND man is considered in the scheme of things in Nigeria is compensation because of their Oil. Eg emergence of Goodluck Jonathan etc,

Now that the value is gradually diminishing and d reseRve trying, you wonder if this region has done enough or if they are prepared for the storm coming their way.

I must confess, am happy we re moving away from Oil and you are happy too but what will become of our brothers who only relevant is dependent on CRUDE

Have the ordinary man on street ever gain ed from it

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by sukkot: 5:45pm On Dec 30, 2015
willow0801:


Envy and jealousy will kill you, the igbo nation is miles ahead, you cant compare an igboman with a black faced ofe mmanu
i take it igbo is white faced caucasian ehn ? do me a favor please - gerra rahia mehn. am sure you are typing this from lagos the greatest state in the nation. an oduduwa enclave lipsrsealed

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by vislabraye(m): 5:45pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:
The decline of the oil industry is going to be worse on the states of Lagos and kano.

Lagos because an analysis of the igr of Lagos shows that Lagos derived it's revenue from the income tax and the income tax bulk is from the oil workers whose offices are in Lagos.
The oil and gas component of the Lagos igr is more than 40% of the igr. Income tax paid by high earning oil and gas industry executive who gross average of N5m monthly has helped Lagos


Secondly kano will be the worst hit as the only state whose take home is equivalent to the take home of niger delta states with their 13% derivative.

Kano doesn't have the human capital to generate income tax.

Third state /city is Abuja. It is said that Abuja was built with oil money, where would the money to sustain and maintain Abuja come from if not the same money from niger delta.

Some states like kwara, benue, adamawa can easily with agriculture fight the downturn of their economy, how would sokoto, yobe, jigawa whose populace don't farm and whose land is far from economic centres for export of agricultural products survive.

The next in line are the hausa cities of katsina, batching, kaduna who benefitted from the lopsided federal allocations. Now that the oil wealth is going and there is no human capital we hope they will not turn to insurgency as a means of raising attention and revenue.

The states that would enjoy and be kings in the new dispensation.

Anambra, Nigeria's brain box and commercial hub will have its non oil economy growth unequalled and unrivaled. Anambra survived with no oil allocation managed the little it had and built an enabling environment for investments.

Akwa Ibom, this state was blessed with resources and good managers who used it very well to grow infrastructure and are currently working on a sea port.

Abia this state hosts aba, Nigeria's city of enterprise and football, aba is living beyond oil already.

No mind them. Make dem continue to talk Naija delta. The whole Naija will suffer.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:46pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:

Yes it is the seat of power but where would the money for the expansion of Abuja infrastructure come from.
The point is Abuja at best would remain as it is, simplistic and maintaining the few infrastructure there.

But for Lagos I honestly don't see much hope.
Where would the money to maintain the bridges come from. Lagos just embarked on gigantic construction project the eco Atlantic which requires a lot of infrastructure.

For starters like Akwa ibom, they just need to start economic projects that would sustain their infrastructure like deep sea port, gas projects etc.

While cross river should build on their tourism and agriculture.

I have no comment on Osun, oyo, ogun states for now for certain reasons.

While for the middle belt states if only fulani herdsmen can allow you to farm then there is hope.

For the South East more investment in the industrial sector, auto and machine parts, steel sector, power generation, shoe making etc some rice, Palm investment

While for the extreme north, I have no advice.
For your mind now you are doing a great analysis right? We northerners don't need your useless and biased analysis. You hatred towards north is alarming but than GOD nothing you and your likes will do about it cos we rule and you (IPOB)must follow. Mtchewww.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by FisifunKododada: 5:46pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:


Please we are all here to learn and share ideas can you bring your arguments so that it can be analyzed.


cool Provide proof for your "...more than 40%..." of Lagos IGR is from Oil executives working in Lagos. Just proof no grammar or dodging. Thank you.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by coolexy2: 5:46pm On Dec 30, 2015
masterpower:
You should ask yourself What Next For THE CRIMINAL Southwest AND THEIR FULANI SLAVE MASTERS?

THAT IS WHY WE TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT B.1.A.F.R.A IS NOT ABOUT CRUDE OIL BUT ABOUT addressing THE WICKEDNESS OF THE CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA.

THE IGBOS ARE DOING WONDERS WITHOUT OIL.
u really make me lolz... southwest? is like u don't no what I re saying

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Flyoruboy(m): 5:47pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:


I am from Delta you twerp.

And I am stating that Ogun is dependent on foriegn investments who employ temporal factory labourers while Aba is host to a thriving SME industries who get to keep and reinvest their profits and that is why you will see them building mansions in their mid 30's while your like will be pushing CVs on the net looking for a 400k tops job.

If you don't understand my point on why I said Aba is more perpeared than any region to spearhead a diverse economy and promote local firms then you will never get my drift.

Now park

Dude, just STFU!!! I don't give a flying fvck where you're from, though I know for a fact you're a flatth.eaded iPod tout. Can you hear yourself? Even the U.S, the UK, China, South Korea, e.t.c, the powerhouse economies of the world go CAP IN HAND in search of FOREIGN DIRECT INVESTMENTS!!! Just admit it that you are JEALOUS that the SW is a preferred Investment destination compared to your condemned region. Period. And that's why your folks keep invading the same SW region you loath so much for economic sustenance than the other way round. You Fvcking hater!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by PencilBox: 5:47pm On Dec 30, 2015
masterpower:
You should ask yourself What Next For THE CRIMINAL Southwest AND THEIR FULANI SLAVE MASTERS?

THAT IS WHY WE TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT B.1.A.F.R.A IS NOT ABOUT CRUDE OIL BUT ABOUT addressing THE WICKEDNESS OF THE CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA.

THE IGBOS ARE DOING WONDERS WITHOUT OIL.
undecided yea! Mass Protest + sexual assault. Those are real wonders

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by honvalid(m): 5:48pm On Dec 30, 2015
Taping parmy and sellin kunu
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Ilovemystate: 5:48pm On Dec 30, 2015
Anambra home of indigenous industries

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by SeverusSnape(m): 5:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:



Slavery was officially declared illegal in Islamic northern Nigeria as late as 1933.

This is despite the fact that the British Crown had abolished slavery over 150 yrs prior.

The British met a well entrenched slave based economy in the north and seemed hapless to stop constant slave raids by the Hausa Fulani in and around the middle belt.

Towns like Suleja where setup as slave raiding centers by the Muslim north in conjunction with Arab slavers.

The twin towns Abuja and Suleja where named after two Arab slave raiders , Abu and Suleiman.

In that same Suleja, the hills and their natural caves served as refuge by the indegonoius Gwari people who fled to them to avoid capture.

The slaves where transported to Kano and other slave markets in the Moslem north where a vast majority where sold in the trans Saharan slave trade while some ended up as domestic servants, field hands or sex concubines.

The groundnut pyramids you used to hear of where based on slave labour.

The British tolerated it because the Northern Muslim oligarchs where making them rich.

The House of Dantata are prime example of this dark past of slavery in the north.

They traded slave labored produce to the British and distributed finished goods in return.

This is why you will never see or hear of groundnut pyramids ever again.

This also applies to the much touted cocoa glory days in the SW. The Agbekoya Parapo uprising ended an exploitative plantation model.

This is why Tajus are not farming cocoa anymore.


Till this day a form of indentured slavery still exists in the north.

Widespread ignorance and lack of basic education has made the majority of northerners unemployable unless has field hands.

This is the reason the northern elite will never truly invest in education in the north. A vast majority of the northern illiterate population are actually descendants of slaves.

This is why a hereditary and class rotational monarchy still exist in the Islamic north even though Islam forbids it.

This is why the Maitassine class revolution was viciously put down and similarly why the Shiites have been widely condemned by the Emirates.

El Zackzacky was always preaching against this class divide and had several runnings with the Emir of Zazau.

Ironically, the same descendants of slaves living in bondage to the descendants of their ancestors' slave masters are now fighting in the NE to bring about this class society based on an inhumane doctrine of subservience and submission in the guise of religion of peace.

God dey.
RevDesmondJuju aka wombraiders, I see you brother.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by fx45(m): 5:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
Enahi:
Stop been a dumbass and reason with your brain for once.

The op wasn't reffering to the East here, what has igbo got to do with Niger Delta?
Aren't there Igbos in the Niger-Delta?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by menxer: 5:50pm On Dec 30, 2015
Ijaya123:
Before Oil, we survived. After Oil, we will still survive. It is just a simple human nature.

Survival is a most, but it can never be the same again for the farmers and fishermen whose source of livelihood has been destroyed by oil spills over the years.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 30, 2015
sukkot:
i take it igbo is white faced caucasian ehn ? do me a favor please - gerra rahia mehn. am sure you are typing this from lagos the greatest state in the nation. an oduduwa enclave lipsrsealed


Say what ever you like, one thing for sure, igbos are one of the most beauty endowed ethnic group in africw but truth be told, yorubas lack beauty, even if they are black, does it mean u should be ugly, but NO! ur tribe's case is different, everyone is very ugly!

I spit on ur tiger clawed scarred face. Rubbish!
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:51pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:


These are all packaging firms.

Does BAT depend on Nigeria for tobacco leaves?

Does nestle depend on the unstable cocoa supply in Nigeria or is peak milk made from Fulani cows ?

All these firms you mentioned are all packaging firms setup to reduce tariffs paid for importation.

They are in Ogun because of two reason:

1. To service the booming and diverse Lagos market. Population and diversity in Lagos serves as a testing ground for the greater Nigerian market as tastes varry with culture and traditions. A Hausa man will prefer sweetened milk but a Yoruba man in fear of jedijedi will not touch that stuff. Also spirits are guzzled with reckless abandon in the south and are absolutely haram in the boko north. Lagos is thus , a good testing ground to see if your product can be widely distributed across Nigeria .

2. Proximity to Lagos ports.

There is nothing unique that Ogun and Oyo offer .

As I said earlier these are foriegn companies investing in packing and redistribution of their products.

In Aba you have home grown industries manned and operated by the local business men.


And finally to remind you what we were clanouring about here is the establishment of local industrial base .

In this regard Ogun which is populated by foreign firms operating repackaging and distribution outlets does not in any way compare to what we have in Aba which is a booming local industrial base.
when a person vilifies others and paints himself good, just know that such a person is emotionally sentimental and silly.

In your warped mind, you were quick to rubbish other states just to paint aba and SE states in good light. What is local industry and what is international industry?

Does it really matter what type of industry a state has? Just cos you produce shoes and clothes doesn't make your state a state with local industries. A shoe and clothe producing industry in SE is as good as a packaging industry too cos the leather and cotton/wool are not gotten from SE but from the north and abroad. So, why should we called them local industries? They are also packaging firms too.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by 9jatatafo(m): 5:52pm On Dec 30, 2015
The fall in the value if crude oil will not affect Niger Delta alone but all over Nigeria. And if Nigeria as a whole can go into agriculture and other non oil sector, I don't think there will be any suffering. Does England has oil? What about Isreal? There will always be a way out

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
Honestly I'm beginning to get tired of these iPod guys, they are just incorrigible.

I hope Tonyebarcanista and the other Nigerian Deltans are watching. The Nigerian state may not necessarily be your best friend, but you know who your wishers of bad tidings are. Just because they refused to be drawn into your Biafra nonsense.

Cockroaches!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:


Arent you feeling ashamed of this transparent display of stupidity? Sentiments wont take you anywhere
Don't mind him. Him and his like are full of hatred for us northerners but thank GOD,he who he has given his power to rule others to,no man shall say otherwise or else he suffer. Manta dashi kawai.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by eyinjuege: 5:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
Cutehector:
Farming

Can anything grow on that land that has been ravaged and destroyed?

Fishing is also a no-no, as the rivers there have been destroyed by oil spillage.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Dec 30, 2015
Ilovemystate:
Anambra home of indigenous industries
innoson is an assembling plant cos most of what he uses aren't manufactured here in nigeria eg car stereo, the steel used for the vehicles, the lights, the engines etc.

He. Is also a packaging company.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 5:54pm On Dec 30, 2015
[quote author=willow0801 post=41490290]


What reserve does the sw or north have quote]

.

Igbos when Yorubas call you ''leeches'' tell them to leave yoruba news outfits and know that:


Go back and tell your people that yorubas are not leeches,SW minus lagos generates about the same IGR has the SE.I wont give stats pulled from the air like ur '60 and 85 percent' but these are facts,We offer
1. Investment destination
2. Entertainment centre
3. Oil
4. Financial services
5. Manufacturing
6. Point of entry into the country
eg Port and Airport
7. Tertiary institution/
Educational hub
8. Cash and food crops
9. IT hub
10. Bitumen
11. Gold
12. Fisheries
13. Human capacity
14. Commerce
15. Manufacturing hub
16. Limestone
17. The region that produces the
highest number of cement in
Africa
18. Financial capital of West
Africa
19. The region with the highest
number of middle class in Africa.
20. Culture and tradition with
rich history.
21. Religious tourism
23. Poultry production
24. Solace to.millions of refugees
from Alaigbo and South Beasts
that risk their lives on a daily
basis to cross the Mediterranean
Gully Eroded Land, just to get to
the blessed land of Oduduwa
that flows with milk and honey.
24.Region with the lowest poverty rate in nigeria
25. What the haters and south
beasterners hate to hear ---- we
are sophisticated.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by dazzy4real(m): 5:55pm On Dec 30, 2015
we should go back to agriculture that shits works great! bye bye to oyel.....
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 5:55pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:




The SW has the largest limestone deposits in west africa,if not africa.


www.thisdaylive.com/articles/the-case-for-solid-minerals-development/215779/

The yellow areas are limestome deposits.

You can see that Ogun has an area of limestone to the north bothering Oyo.

You can also see that Sokoto has the greatest expanse of limestone deposits.

Ogun limestone was more profitable to exploit than sokoto because of the proximity to Lagos and availlable water sources.

Cement production utilizes a Lot of water .


Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by sukkot: 5:55pm On Dec 30, 2015
willow0801:



Say what ever you like, one thing for sure, igbos are one of the most beauty endowed ethnic group in africw but truth be told, yorubas lack beauty, even if they are black, does it mean u should be ugly, but NO! ur tribe's case is different, everyone is very ugly!

I spit on ur tiger clawed scarred face. Rubbish!
yeah we know you have beautiful women like this beauty queen here

[img]http://destinationnigeria.files./2011/02/oby.jpg[/img]

do me a favor please - gerrarahia mehn

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by sukkot: 5:56pm On Dec 30, 2015
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