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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by darqly(m): 5:56pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
masterpower: Em, not entirely true. The wonders you are doing IS NOT in igboland. You are astute traders and business managers but ONLY outside your geographical locality. Lets assume you get your B.1.a.f.r.a.land, then all the spare-parts dealers, drug distributors, movie and music distributors etc move back to the promised land- WHAT NEXT?? Will you sell spare parts to one another? or barter movies for medical supplies? Bia, your biggest and most profitable market is where? It is still the ZOO, call a spade a spade. You sell it, we buy it, end of story! 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:56pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
bloodyBLOGGER: An illiterate is far better than you |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by queebeediva(f): 5:57pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
This is why I said NOTING IS PARMENENT In THIS LIFE. Oya na to carry hoe and cutlass begin dey farm na. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 5:57pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 5:58pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
[quote author=jstbeinhonest post=41491175][/quote] abegi sophisticated my brown ass, tell that to ur diabolic gods. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Chucks08(m): 5:58pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Foolish talk. What were the northeners surviving earlier before now? Wasn't it tin and columbite and are they not surviving since after then? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by mrDennis(m): 5:59pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
asorocker: I have never been to akwa ibom... pls which INFRASTRUCTIRES are in akwa ibom? |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Ilovemystate: 6:00pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Anambra home of indigenous industries 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Goodboiyy:Hahahaha... Oga you dey vex o. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 6:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
@ OP before you start beating your meat to the thought of a helpless, irrelevant and/or impoverished Niger Delta here's some tidbits to keep in mind: (a) In every sector there are boom and bust cycles. '73 Gowon govt enjoyed Arab embargo-fuelled boom, Shagari had Iran crisis boom and then later supply glut-bust, which ofc as we all know played a significant role in bringing down his govt. There's just something about about getting flushed with cash and then having the tap shut down unexpectedly eh ?...But look at it, all of a sudden we are quick to forget the fickleness of the market( demand dynamics in our case) and are back to our wasteful ways the next minute. 1980 lessons mean nothing in 2015. And 2015 lessons will mean nothing in 2030. Its human nature, and no need to freak out. The present bust in the energy industry is in tandem with the temporal nature of the bi-nature of the market buddy. Shale will come under increasing pressure from environmental groups and although other fields from hitherto absent countries are coming online. Increased ec. growth in Asia and Africa will always provide potential new customers. (b) The $ value contribution of of oil doesn't change. I mean why should less reliance on oil for Nigeria be a bad thing? Good for the country. Why should everything come from just oil afterall?? However it seems like you're actually equating the reduced fraction in contribution to 'reduction' of the nominal outright value of the contribution. The commodities markets are all facing the crunch. But also do not forget that the said market is sill dominated by energy trades ( about 2/3) . An average/marginally large oil producer is still seeing more bank than a major heavy bulk metals/ore producer nation. So the Delta is still gonna be accruing more than any other region toward foreign exchange earnings lol. So regardless the state allocations will still be 13% of the $ value of the oil sales. If Nigeria likes it can diversify down to 1.5% lol. The nomal value will only be affected by the boom and bust cycles. The share of total national earnings isn't important. Tbh the country should have passed the stage of just sucking on oil throughout by now. On that same note you probably also took a look at the GDP components and thought 'what a nuisance this oil is becoming ? ' right? Well there's also a problem there. No God-loving nation or even Satan worshipping, should be dependent on oil field activities. I mean how is everyone supposed to wear overalls and man rigs?? What is important is not the oil sector in this case, lts the linkages. Forward, backward, lateral and final-demand linkages.. Look that up. If you're getting my drift so far you'll understand that Lagos is the real oil city. So even SW industry enjoys it as well . The oilfield activity doesn' mean shit. Its the money thats important. And the privilege of productive allocation of the money goes to the financial services sector. Wonder why is grown in its GDP share ?? The biggest singular block of cash is still oil/gas in the country. Hence the region that houses the said resource will still do well man. Speaking/Speculating on the state of fossil fuels; the verdict is a good one. The energy demand of increasingly sophisticated economies in both hemispheres will continue to grow as even more states become 'developing'. Natural gas specifically will take precedence by like 2050 due to its increased availability, means of extraction and clean'er' emissions. And guess who has the biggest reserves on the continent? ... Yours truly buddy. So tbh its not really that bad. Tokyo Electric, Chubu Electric, Osaka, East China industries etc are examples of large customers scooping up LNG and other natural gas production. ARIGATO to the Japanese for picking up our Bonny output. I'm disappointed in Jona for not fast tracking Brass, the interest and need for additional production capacity is really not going down anytime soon. See one thing about ppl like you that downplay fossil fuels is that you forget to notice that even in advanced countries the energy regions are plainly the wealthiest per capita. See Aberdeen( UK) , Alberta ( Canada) , Texas, Stavanger etc. There's no need for everyone to be dependent on just one region or resource or city region. It is a good thing for Naija to diversify. Regardless of such devts. one cannot deny that the biggest $ getter will still be commodities. Unless there is the option of hi-tech manufactures, *cough* tell me who is doing that at the moment in the country. The skills and structures available do not allow for that yet. The inefficiencies of the Delta relate to mismanagement and lack of vision really. The inherent value and worth of the region is still very much in tact. Thats what is important. The thugs that ruled from '99 are gradually either converting or just becoming irrelevant. n/b: Dont forget the mass of capital assets littering the region as well. They run into billions of dollars wand will forever add value to overall economic output and overview. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jtjohn(m): 6:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:Seconded |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by fx45(m): 6:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
jstbeinhonest:What part of Yorubaland has the River Niger or its tributaries flowing in it? Maybe you don't understand what Niger-Delta means. Obasanjo's fraud will never stand the test of time. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by ToyinDipo(m): 6:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
As it stands the north have power and food, west industry and ports, the south oil, which is gradually becoming inconsequential. If the present fall in oil price is not one of those cycles, then I see oil falling to around 5 dollar per barrel in the next 10 years. In fact demand for oil will be so low by then. As there will viable alternatives by then, like solar and nuclear. However if Buhari succeeds with his promises, I see Nigeria coming out fine, though heavily reliant on the north in the end. All his focuses are either intentionally or non are geared towards empowering north to the point where other parts of the country can't do without them. 1. Agriculture - who has land and people willing to farm? Though Ondo state and its axis will also benefit from this. 2. Solar - to generate 13MWs of power, where else but north? 3. Mineral resources - North has consequential amount of mineral deposits, especially places like Zamfara |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Amberon: 6:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Lmao.... pls where in the entire SE is more developed than PH, Warri, Uyo or Calabar... lmao. and pls don't tell me how PH is igboland. SS is also the most sustainable region in Nigeria by a large margin. explorer250: |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 6:04pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Flyoruboy: Companies that only hire unskilled labour . Companies that generate and repatriate whatever wealth back to their base country? If you don't understand that we are looking at promoting SMEs and not exploitative multi national companies. Yeye |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by nairaman66(m): 6:04pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Bryan37: Your post is totally myopic and dysfunctional to the cause of the ND. For a start, there are business mogul who had done well in the international business world who are from the ND. These are people who made their wealth from other viable means and not from the oil and gas sector, I am sure you don't want me to school you in this regard! I can authoritatively say that this your column is only borne out of jealousy and pure hatred for the ND region. In conclusion; the most people that benefited from the oyel as you rightly said are clowns from the East, West and North regions! 3 Likes |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
I stop posting log time ago, though I was forced to come during the election to form intellectual online warhorse that fought the recent mismanagement and wastage ever witnessed in the Africa. Most of the comments here are childish and lack any intellectual research or analysis. 1. Those people that are complaining should start planning of how to relocate out of Lagos. One of their girl-child novelists even took the Oba of Lagos to an International Court, I am still waiting for the outcome. 2. Somebody said Ogun has only one cement factory which serves Lagos market. That is why we stopped commenting or even checking political page on nairaland. People are so lazy to do little research even using google. I believe only main market traders make such comments. Ogun has four major cement factories, 3. PortHarcourt ports will be made unuseable for them by Ijaws after few years due to their criminal and selfish nature. They will try to dominate Ijaws and Ogonis, they will be resisted. Other nations will support Ijaws, Calabaris, Ogonis against them. 4. International airports abroad will find it easy to screen flight from their territory deeply. They caused most harassment and embarrassment being meted to Nigerians abroad. 5. etc 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Flyoruboy(m): 6:09pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
TheDevilIsALai: That's it. I'm through with your dumb-a$$. Shyt, your stvpidity may be contagious.
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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jaylister(m): 6:11pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
think again, n delta oil will be valuable till Jesus comes 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 6:12pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Flyoruboy: Yeah start with the very unoriginal memes. At least try and develop your own meme for once. Illiterate 1 Like |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 6:13pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
babaolofin: Ode |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by free2blast(m): 6:14pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
explorer250:Typical Igbo traits. Chest beating, hatred, self centered, proud, noise making, victim playing, lack of respect for others. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by lyterydim(m): 6:14pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
asorocker:guy infact I will call you my brother,sometimes I wonder why people who has no opinion make to much noise,he could not even make a point on the issue on light,infact that guy split like an housa guy,brother base on your overwhelming analyze and preference on state that bench on hope,after oil price must have melt down to it lowest degree is a great thought,for osun,ogun and other western state you didn't mentioned they have no hope. nairaman66: asorocker:guy infact I will call you my brother,sometimes I wonder why people who has no opinion make to much noise,he could not even make a point on the issue on light,infact that guy split like an housa guy,brother base on your overwhelming analyze and preference on state that bench on hope,after oil price must have melt down to it lowest degree is a great thought,for osun,ogun and other western state you didn't mentioned they have no hope. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Masculity(m): 6:14pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
masterpower: if I am not mistaken, the thread is for Niger Delta not Igbos. Must you hijak them by force? Haba! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 6:14pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
NakedEve:I wanted to reply you but after checking your name and the time of registered I decide to keep shut cos I can't wait waste my time with an imposter. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by fx45(m): 6:15pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
omonnakoda:Seems like you want to derail this thread... |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by martineverest(m): 6:15pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Goodboiyy:no mind those idiots. They have forgotten that Biafra land is landlocked while ss is blessed with seaports.edo delta akwa ibom ,c. Rivers are fertile grounds 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Atk1nson(m): 6:16pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
asorocker: Real beer parlour talk, where did you get these figures from. The service industry accounts for most of Lagos IGR. Also a lot of oil workers are not domiciled in Lagos, except for admin and some expats, a lot of taxes(withholding) paid by oil companies goes to FG because most of their contractors are incorporated entities. A lot of service companies provide more expat PAYE income than oil firms now a days. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by nike4love: 6:18pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Bryan37:thoes guys are like dogs the owners change there name when ever they feel like frm bendel to south south to niger delta, soon maybe south delta. maaaaaaaaaaaad feofle. |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by drakespearz(m): 6:18pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
it's going to affect the whole country. I think the best thing is for Nigeria to Refine Locally and stop the importation of PMS |
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by wristbangle: 6:19pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
asorocker: Let me counter your thread in a diplomatic way brother. LAGOS- you will agree with me that there are lot of industries in the state which is not limited to oil alone. FCMG, Steel, Beverages, Automobile, Power Generation Company, Manufacturing, Agrobased/Agro allied industries, etc. The state has a way of diversifying if her IGR is mainly generated from oil which I don't think it's entirely based in oil. OTHER SOUTH WEST STATES: Aside Ogun been the most industrialised state in Nigeria, she is blessed with natural resources like limestone, a commercial hub of 60 perecent building/construction material in Nigeria. Agricultural sector in the state is massive and others I can recall for now. Even though Osun has economic issue, if their resources is well utilised, their IGR will increase. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
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