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Masterclass32:
Guy, u finish work for this post.

I wonder why the op hasn't deemed it fit to respond to your submission.

Brother i dey tell you... Igbos are blessed, infact the whole eastern region brother. Just imagine, 20 pounds for every biafran!, chai this people are very wicked, Awolowo is very wicked, why cant they condemn him for what he did, The igbos will never do that, we have heart, we can never give the yorubas 20 pounds assuming they were defeated. Igbos today dont look like they were victims of the civil war, there is no trace of it in the eastern region even after the federal government abandoned us, We rose up and rebuilt our region, Nigerians knows this, no wonder they don't want us to leave, because nigeria will never be resilient as they were thought to be, it will just be some boring contraption.

ironheart:
I dey laugh them. Igbos shouting marginalization are the lazy Igbos. From my little stay with the Igbos, they are way way industrious, they have good business sense to take nigeria out of it's misery. But the lazy once who has moved out of nigeria and suffered in the hands of there slave masters abroad are the onces making noise. Can you imagine someone with a british passport coming to cause trouble in Nigeria? When the war starts, he goes back to Britain and will watch from afar. Where is Asari Dokubo today? He has gone back to Benin republic where his business is to mind his business. It's high time the igbo youths think before they follow a supposed messiah

Stop trying to sound intelligent when obviously are not. Being marginalized does not mean you can't be successful. How do you think? Why do you think there was need for creation of more states for the SE by the national assembly? Why do quota system in the civil service and education favor the illiterate north as against the merit of the south east? Why was the 3Rs by Gowon not completed, or even taken halfway? You are a sadistic sycophant.

willow0801:
Brother i dey tell you... Igbos are blessed, infact the whole eastern region brother. Just imagine, 20 pounds for every biafran!, chai this people are very wicked, Awolowo is very wicked, why cant they condemn him for what he did, The igbos will never do that, we have heart, we can never give the yorubas 20 pounds assuming they were defeated. Igbos today dont look like they were victims of the civil war, there is no trace of it in the eastern region even after the federal government abandoned us, We rose up and rebuilt our region, Nigerians knows this, no wonder they don't want us to leave, because nigeria will never be resilient as they were thought to be, it will just be some boring contraption.

True talk.

Bros, the truth be say there is a kind of grace bestowed on the Igbo by God. But Nigeria has refused to tap into it due to jealousy, envy and hate.

Until we tap into this grace, whether willingly or not, Nigeria will not be able to move an inch towards her greatness. We allow tribalism and undue competition hold us down. Okay. Nigeria is grinding to a halt. Maybe when it stops moving altogether we will be forced to have a rethink.

willow0801:
Brother i dey tell you... Igbos are blessed, infact the whole eastern region brother. Just imagine, 20 pounds for every biafran!, chai this people are very wicked, Awolowo is very wicked, why cant they condemn him for what he did, The igbos will never do that, we have heart, we can never give the yorubas 20 pounds assuming they were defeated. Igbos today dont look like they were victims of the civil war, there is no trace of it in the eastern region even after the federal government abandoned us, We rose up and rebuilt our region, Nigerians knows this, no wonder they don't want us to leave, because nigeria will never be resilient as they were thought to be, it will just be some boring contraption.

in today Nigeria there is no marginalization. stop dwelling over 1970

asorocker:
Competition is when you have a level playing ground for all the people involved. Marginalization is when in some events that doesn't favor a side quota is brought in and in another event that favors the side and doesn't favor another quota is abolished.

Hypocrisy is when you claim that non of that exists to serve your selfish interest and cry when it affects you.

Now no group can marginalize igbos effectively, the richest igbo had $20 in his account for all his deposit in 1967

Today some parts of Nigeria are about being given an equivalent of $ 20 to cushion untold hardship they brought on themselves and this is in addition to their previous bank deposit.

Calm down bro, all part of nigeria are facing some kind of hardship or are you telling us you didnt know some of south east governoon also collected bailout...

tuale4u:
in today Nigeria there is no marginalization. stop dwelling over 1970

Assuming we weren't igbos, do you know how poor and miserable we would have been today?, Stop saying it because we are better off than most mega ethnic group today, we did it with no help from the federal government that is why we are proud.... if you were igbo, you will understand this better

tuale4u:
There has been a lot of shout of marginalisation by South East part of Nigeria since after May 29th, 2015. This is a lie that have been said too long which is now looking like true because others have refused to come out and correct this big lie. I will like to address most of the points use in spreading this lie. What we have in Nigeria is tribal competition and not Marginalisation.

1. They Claim Igbo need to score like 70% while the North need to score 5% to gain admission to Federal govt Secondary School

This point is highly flawed. First of all, the requirement of high cut off mark for admission in Federal govt Secondary School is not limited to South East. South west (Yoruba) and South South also require high cut off to gain same admission. This in itself is not marginalization. This in itself is an inclusion policy in order to ensure the educational weak North still have access to Federal govt College. Despite the cut off differences, South east, south west and south south still dominate the federal govt colleges admission. I believe it would have been marginalisation if we subject the north to the the same cut off as us in the south. Because they would not have been able to compete because they are weak in educational capacity. Policy of inclusion and diversity is a global practice. Multinationals companies are compelled to include people of all race, diability, religion, sexual orientation and gender in their workforce. This is a United Nation mandate.This means there is a minimum percentage of a group of people that must be in the workforce even if there are more capable people in another group to fill up the space. A society that have no space for the weak is not a fair and just society.

2. The North dominate Federal Civil Service due to quota system

This is another big lie. It has been proven than Imo State has the highest number of federal civil servant followed by Ogun state in Nigeria. By geopolitical zone, south west has the highest, followed by south south in second position and south east in third position. The three northern geopolitical zone are the bottom three. The only thing I may agree with is that some northerners may have risen faster than some of their southern colleagues. However this has been highly corrected in the last 16 years of Democracy. In the last 16years the South has been in Position of President for 13years and the North 3years. As at May 29th, 2015 there were more permanent secretaries of southern origin than northerners. Currently the head of civil service is a southern woman from Cross river State.

3. Federal road in South east are bad because of marginalization.

This is another lie. Marginalization is not responsible for bad state of south east federal road. Two factors are responsible. Soil type and corruption. In the last 16years almost all the ministers of work have been from south south. From Tony Anenih, to odion Ugbesia to Mike Onolimemhen. Who among this people will want to marginalised south east? To bring my point home on the issue of soil type and corruption, Onitsha -Owerri road was completed less than 8years ago, today the road is already dilapidated. if you spend the same money used for that road in a northern road, it will last 20years or more. Instead of the contractors to do the road by putting the soil type into consideration, because of corruption the roads are poorly done and money are pocketed. If you go and find out who the contractors are you will discover that there are a lot of southerners involve in sharing the money.

4. South east is marginalized because of Unemployment and poverty
This is another twisted statement. I believe there are more poverty and unemployment in the North than in the South. The truth is that unemployment in Nigeria is a national problem. There is poverty everywhere in Nigeria. Unemployed youth are all over the country.

5. There are more northerners in NNPC than Southerners
This is another big lie. There are no more northerners in NNPC. Actually there are slightly more southerners in NNPC. NNPC usually recruit many of their staffs by quota system. Today we have 19 northern states and 17 southern state. This will make it appear you will have slighty more northerners. This may be true before 1999. But since Gaus Obaseki from Edo state became NNPC GMD, he changed the recruitment structure. While about 60% of recruitment are still base on quota system, about 40% are base on merit. This has greatly changed the statistics of NNPC staffs. And also in general in the Oil and gas industries, more than 70% of the staffs are southerners. Yoruba and Igbo dominate the oil and gas industry in Nigeria. Those of us from south south even feel marginalized by Yoruba and Igbo when it come to oil and gas Job

6. South east is marginalised because they have five(5) states while others have six (6) states.
This is more of political competition than marginalization. About 13 Northern states each are bigger in size than all the South East states combined. Kogi state is the 13th biggest state in Nigeria. Kogi State size is 29833km sq. If you add up the size of all the south east state it is 29095km sq. Thus the whole south east combined is approximately the same size with Oyo State, the 14th biggest state in Nigeria. The whole of south east is one-third of South south. The argument mostly put forward by Igbo on this topic is that state should be shared by population only and size should not be considered. With the small size of south east in relative to other region, south east is suppose to have maximum of 3 states. It is the consideration of the population and their political strength that makes it 5 states. I believe the population has been strongly considered.

7. Igbo Presidency
This is another area where you hear plenty lie on marginalization propanganda. In other to fully discuss this issue we need to look at Nigeria history briefly. In the beginning of Independence in 1960, Nigeria politics was dominated by Igbo and Hausa/Fulani. The Yoruba were the one who were playing Opposition. From 1960 to 1966 before the first coup, Nigeria federal govt was more Hausa and Igbo government at the centre. While Tafawa balewa was prime minister , Nnamdi Azikiwe was President (though ceremonial but he was number one citizen of the country). Then came the first coup which made Igbo man the First Military head of State of Nigeria. After that, it became from one coup to another which was dominated by the North. This in itself was not marginalization. It was simply dog eat dog affair and purely military affair and power struggle. Then came democracy in 1979 to 1983, this again became Hausa and Igbo government. Yoruba was now the opposition. after that came coup. Yes the military govt became northern dominated. but I cant call it marginalization because this were simply power struggle among opportunist. Then came 1999 and democracy. There was a kind of gentleman agreement or understanding of power sharing from south to North. We must understand that the power sharing was not by geopolitical zone but by region. Obasanjo who is from south did 8 years, the govt moved to North in the name of Yar adua. from North it came to south through Jonathan who did approximately 6 years. From Jonathan it went to the North through Buhari. If Buhari do his 8 years it will come to the South again in 2023. This in itself have been very fair and just. Nigeria democracy from 1999 has been fair to both North and South. By 2023, South East need to play the right politics for them to get presidency in 2023. Because 2023 presidency is for the south not for the south east. As far as the Northern part of Nigeria is concern, 2023 should be southern presidency. The truth is that South East, South West and South South will compete for it. Nobody will just give you the presidency just like that without you playing the right politics. If Igbo continue to make almost every other part of Nigeria their enemy, south south or south west will get 2023 presidency. Should South west or South South win 2023 presidency nobody can call it marginalization. It is the same Igbo that are claiming marginalization who are Supporting Wike an Ikwrere man in Rivers state. From Omehia, to Amaechi to Wike are all Ikwerre. Yet the greatest supporters of Wike are Igbo in rivers state. This is one big hippocracy. Just as I said, losing in a political competition is not marginalization. Wike (upland) winning dakuku (riverine) is not marginalization but political competition.


In summary, there is only one form of marginalization in Nigeria. That is the marginalization of the masses by the political class. Where the political class eat fat while the masses are left to die in squalor.

Bless you, child.

But the problem is the yellow nitwits will never listen.

Powerful rebuttal with HD efx.

WaffenSS:
Bless you, child.

But the problem is the yellow nitwits will never listen.

Thank you

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
GOVERNOR GODSWILL AKPABIO SPEAKS ON BIAFRA AND GOWON WITH THEWILL NEWS

For me (Akpabio), I believe that because of certain policies of the federal government after the war, the war did not cease in the eastern region until about 30 years after the war.

https://www.nairaland.com/1457961/gov-akpabio-akwa-ibom-state

according to ur post, Akpabio recognised the fact the war has ended in 1999. So in today Nigeria there is no marginalization. so what is all the noise about?

tuale4u:
according to ur post, Akpabio recognised the fact the war has ended in 1999. So in today Nigeria there is no marginalization. so what is all the noise about?

Where is the reconstruction? Instead they were cited in the west and North after the war. You hypocrite.

Do you think SE youths would've being migrating out of their region in drove had FG established minimum Federal presence in the zone?

Do you konw that Aba and Onitsha were already metropolitan cities with almost same or better infrastructure than today (relative to population ratio) before the Nigerian and Arab Forces levelled the cities and other urban areas to ground zero?

Buhari borrowed $2.1 billion for reconstruction of Northeast Nigeria while SEast is still awaiting reconstruction and rehabilitation since 1970.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Where is the reconstruction? You hypocrite.

Do you think SE youths would've being migrating out of their region in drove had FG established minimum Federal presence in the zone?

Do you konw that Aba and Onitsha were already metropolitan cities with almost same or better infrastructure than today (relative to population ratio) before the Nigerian and Arab Forces levelled the cities and other urban areas to ground zero?

Buhari borrowed $2.1 billion for reconstruction of Northeast Nigeria while SEast is still awaiting reconstruction and rehabilitation since 1970.

why did you not ask GEJ to do it? Your brother Ayim Pius Ayim was SSG. And your brother was chief of defence staff.

tuale4u:
why did you not ask GEJ to do it? Your brother Ayim Pius Ayim was SSG. And your brother was chief of defence staff.

You mean the nonsense you just typed should substitute the quest for reconstruction that can only be achieve by a special budget or amending constitution?

Read the article you quoted again. Akpabio was addressing Gowon, IBB, OBJ and Buhari in their presence. Why should Buhari ask what the SE wants even when he wasn't able to counter Akpabio's confrontation.

By the way, you now agree there was injustice and by extension gross and calculated negligence perpetrated against Eastern Nigeria?

Buharia just borrowed $2.1 biliion to reconstruct Northeast and is asking what Southeast needs?

That Akpabio link was a knock out punch to this shitty article wrtten by a kid born yesterday.
Let me end with this quote.
For me (Akpabio), I believe that because of certain policies of the federal government after the war, the war did not cease in the eastern region until about 30 years after the war.

Chiwude:
That Akpabio link was a knock out punch to this shitty article wrtten by a kid born yesterday.
Let me end with this quote.
For me (Akpabio), I believe that because of certain policies of the federal government after the war, the war did not cease in the eastern region until about 30 years after the war.

The punch killed the thread.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
You mean the nonsense you just typed should substitute the quest for reconstruction that can only be achieve by a special budget or amending constitution?

Read the article you quoted again. Akpabio was addressing Gowon, IBB, OBJ and Buhari in their presence. Why should Buhari ask what the SE wants even when he wasn't able to counter Akpabio's confrontation.

By the way, you now agree there was injustice and by extension gross and calculated negligence perpetrated against Eastern Nigeria?

Buharia just borrowed $2.1 biliion to reconstruct Northeast and is asking what Southeast needs?

All this ur quest have been overtaken by event.
D only way you can achieve result is through constructive dialogue.

willow0801:
Assuming we weren't igbos, do you know how poor and miserable we would have been today?, Stop saying it because we are better off than most mega ethnic group today, we did it with no help from the federal government that is why we are proud.... if you were igbo, you will understand this better

Orji Uzo Kalu, ifeanyi Uba etc did not make through fed govt right? Stop all this noise.

tuale4u:
Orji Uzo Kalu, ifeanyi Uba etc did not make through fed govt right? Stop all this noise.

What are you Saying man! We are talking of the common man here, were these men you mentioned, the ones that rebuilt the east? It is the collective effort of the igbo nation that made us get to where we are. Stop behaving like an illiterate pls

willow0801:
What are you Saying man! We are talking of the common man here, were these me you mentioned, the ones that rebuilt the east? It is the collective effort of the igbo nation that made us get to where we are. Stop behaving like an illiterate pls

Name one thing a common man from Cross River, edo , Osun or ekiti is gaining from federal govt today that a common man from igbo land is not getting?

tuale4u:
Name one thing a common man from Cross River, edo , Osun or ekiti is gaining from federal govt today that a common man from igbo land is not getting?

You mean now? i meant then!!! the nationalization decree, the common men from the north and south west gained massively from it, federal presence like roads, rail, public parks and centers, the common men in these same region gained massively from it, leaving the igbos and their brothers from the former eastern region to lick their wounds.

I still repeat it

Assuming we weren't igbos, do you know how poor and miserable we would have been today?

you are only referring to now because the igbos have bounced back to be better than most mega ethnic group whose region didn't get destroyed during the war but yet look like abandoned shanties filled with rusted corrugated roofs.

please Stop feigning ignorance!, Stop making everything seem alright when it is not okay. That is why the igbo nation has not forgiven Nigerians for their atrocities because they keep hiding the truth!

TonyeBarcanista:
As long as I'm concerned, all Nigerians are marginalised by the system not by any group. Saying the north is marginalising anybody is inappropriate and unfair.

Bia u dis guy.. U no dey tire? You're on every thread vigorously defending your tribe and region and speaking the truth even when u're the only one standing. You'r always firm on your beliefs, rational and very sincere at the same time.I love the way u continuously refuse to be intimidated by a storm of contrary opinions admist insult especially people from a different tribe trying tobtell u about YOUR OWN IDENTITY and HERITAGE (I actually said u will get tired soon, but u don't seem like it).. I wish we had peeps to defend us like u do ur people. Because of people like, we understand the SS/nigerdelta people alot more better cos we were used to lumping you together with those ibo people. Now i can see very clearly that you have your own culture,heritage, belief,demands, ideology etc. So please tell your brothers y'll need to speak out more cos we wanna hear from you and get to know you better. You have an admirable passion and please do keep it up cos u're a true son of your father.

When it suites the Op he lumps the south together to claim they've bern president. Tell us how many SE president we've had since 1970?

Are you guys tired of shouting Igboman will never smell aso rock? Funny enough it's been a long while i've heard that statement from you guys, wetin happen? na biafra fever?

willow0801:
You mean now? i meant then!!! the nationalization decree, the common men from the north and south west gained massively from it, federal presence like roads, rail, public parks and centers, the common men in these same region gained massively from it, leaving the igbos and their brothers from the former eastern region to lick their wounds.

I still repeat it

Assuming we weren't igbos, do you know how poor and miserable we would have been today?

you are only referring to now because the igbos have bounced back to be better than most mega ethnic group whose region didn't get destroyed during the war but yet look like abandoned shanties filled with rusted corrugated roofs.

please Stop feigning ignorance!, Stop making everything seem alright when it is not okay. That is why the igbo nation has not forgiven Nigerians for their atrocities because they keep hiding the truth!

Stop dwelling on more than 40years ago. We are talking of d last 16 years with democracy.
Every Nigeria region has one problem or the other. No region have it rosy.

If all d things you are complaining about are no longer valid, why keep repeating it ovet and over again.

anticabal1:
When it suites the Op he lumps the south together to claim they've bern president. Tell us how many SE president we've had since 1970?

Are you guys tired of shouting Igboman will never smell aso rock? Funny enough it's been a long while i've heard that statement from you guys, wetin happen? na biafra fever?

Yar Adua is from Katsina and North west.
Buhari is from Katsina and North west.
Have heard other northerners shouting maginalization. Must everything be about u?

tuale4u:
Stop dwelling on more than 40years ago. We are talking of d last 16 years with democracy.
Every Nigeria region has one problem or the other. No region have it rosy.

If all d things you are complaining about are no longer valid, why keep repeating it ovet and over again.

You see the problem , you simply attacked me because i said "Assuming we weren't igbos, do you know how poor and miserable we would have been today?"

So tell me, am i wrong? there is a fundamental problem and you guys like shoving it aside, Dont worry, i wont reply you anymore

itunu8:
Bia u dis guy.. U no dey tire? You're on every thread vigorously defending your tribe and region even when u're the only one standing. You'r always firm on your beliefs, rational and very sincere at the same time.I love the way u continuously refuse to be intimidated by a storm of contrary opinions admist insult especially people from a different tribe trying tobtell u about YOUR OWN IDENTITY and HERITAGE (I actually said u will get tired soon, but u don't seem like it).. I wish we had peeps to defend us like u do ur people. Because of people like, we understand the SS/nigerdelta people alot more better cos we were used to lumping you together with those ibo people. Now i can see very clearly that you have your own culture,heritage, belief,demands, ideology etc. So please tell your brothers y'll need to speak out more cos we wanna hear from you and get to know you better. You have an admirable passion and please do keep it up cos u're a true son of your father.

You are the only one making this assertion, Rivers , delta and crossrivers all have igbos in them, so please quit all those shambles and bambles

tuale4u:
Yar Adua is from Katsina and North west.
Buhari is from Katsina and North west.
Have heard other northerners shouting maginalization. Must everything be about u?

Why did you lump the south together to claim Igbo have not been marginalized in presidency because they are in the south? What business does Igbo (East) have Yoruba (SW)? you are not sincere. Stop the deceit.

itunu8:
Bia u dis guy.. U no dey tire? You're on every thread vigorously defending your tribe and region even when u're the only one standing. You'r always firm on your beliefs, rational and very sincere at the same time.I love the way u continuously refuse to be intimidated by a storm of contrary opinions admist insult especially people from a different tribe trying tobtell u about YOUR OWN IDENTITY and HERITAGE (I actually said u will get tired soon, but u don't seem like it).. I wish we had peeps to defend us like u do ur people. Because of people like, we understand the SS/nigerdelta people alot more better cos we were used to lumping you together with those ibo people. Now i can see very clearly that you have your own culture,heritage, belief,demands, ideology etc. So please tell your brothers y'll need to speak out more cos we wanna hear from you and get to know you better. You have an admirable passion and please do keep it up cos u're a true son of your father.

That's so sweeeeeeet of you

For so long we've been in shadows, but never again shall we allow ourselves to be misrepresented and falsely classed as a "subgroup" of another group. This was one of the reasons our people agitated for the creation of Rivers region since the 40s. Thanks to God that Gowon did the needful.

tuale4u:
Stop dwelling on more than 40years ago. We are talking of d last 16 years with democracy.
Every Nigeria region has one problem or the other. No region have it rosy.

If all d things you are complaining about are no longer valid, why keep repeating it ovet and over again.

Tonye hatred will kill you, we are about to enter new year change your ways average Igbo man on the street doesn't give a shit about your South south rubbish, I only hear this sill.y words when ever I come on nairaland, in my state nobody I repeat nobody give a shit about your resources.

phantonce:
They like playing the victims card to get sympathy.

Which region is even self sustainable and developed?
If the busiest road in west Africa(lagos-ibadan expressway) could be left in shambles,what type of special attention do onitsha-owerri expressway way require?

Then build your lagos-ibadan with cocoa money not with Eastern resources since the east is not special to you. Stand on your own for once.