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| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Kachisbarbie:Sorry. My bad ![]() |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by JOACHINpedro: 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
isakabiru98:Bunch of what !!!... U are on point thou but some broomsticks among us get THORNS, as in Long pointed THORNS!!!... We ought to tell them their mistakes just to be sure that every one is carried along and continue maintaining our peaceful nature...AFRICA i know is truely blessed but due to GREED and OVER SABI, we have been diversified... BUT i still get hope we wil reach there. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 6:28pm On Feb 23, 2016 |
Masterclass32:correct |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
superior1:He doesn't need any stupid empirical data.....the terrible Nigerian conditions are enough data.......Your case is really pathetic. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Yeeyo: 1:11pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
SirWere:weep 4 urslf cos God is wit ds country. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Idrismusty97(m): 1:11pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
erusen:What continent are you comparing Africa with, Compare the level of irreligious people in those continents "That isn't backward" and you will get the whole picture. No matter how educated you are, No matter how wealthy. Religion can take away your reasoning capability. Tailor it however you can, Refined it, Reform it or whatever. Religion is still religion. That's why a world renowned neurosurgeon like Ben Carson can believe the Pyramid in Egypt was built by his Bible Joseph to store up grains, That's why some of the best Islamic scholars believe the earth is flat. Let's just face the fact, Religion has to go. Especially when you can't keep it to yourself, Especially when you are still noisy about, Especially when you are given special privilege like not paying tax and the right to put others in an Inconvenient situation. The adherents of religion have to change not the irreligious. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
The WORST is that U see LADIES seeking consent from Clergymen first, before they can submit themselves for a CAESEREAN SECTION instead of their husbands. PLEASE, between ur husband and ur Pastor who is more honourable in this respect.? Women are the WORST HIT. I still believe some Ladies breastfeed these so called "gods Of men" |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by isakabiru98(m): 1:14pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
No religion ,I repeat,no religion said that nobody should not reasoning at all.let us becareful of what we will be saying about religion at times.even what that prof had said did not totally condemned religion,but trying to tell us not to be following our leader dogmatically.even the traditional religion believes God exist,now which one should we choose religion or science which part of it's studies tell us everything just happen like that! Even traditional religion believes that there is heaven and fire too!whatelse. Brothers and sisters,Christians and Muslims,we have to go back and sit tight,let us study and read our holy books very well,and understand the message they are passing to us!our religious religious leaders ae exploiting us because they know that we have no time to read all these books,that is why they are continue to tell us what we want to hear,every time salvation,money,salation,money. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by drnsoha(m): 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
I concur! |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by tosyne2much(m): 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 1:56pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
I'm inclined to agree with the professor. As a matter of fact, religion is beginning to be more of curse than blessing, and this is because we don't think critically and analytically, hence, blaming all our misfortunes on ill-luck on witches and wizards and/or God's wishes Many at times, we fail to accept the responsibility of our errors and misdeeds but will attribute them to God's plan Take for example, you would see some religious zealous in school attending church service every now and then with the belief that only God can make them excel in their academics endeavour( of course it's God). But it is paramount to know that you have to pay the sacrifice towards this accomplishment by reading profusely rather than devoting more of your time attending church programmes, then spending the remaining time on your academics. A driver will not take safety precautions and when he's involved in a ghastly motor accident, we begin to say that it was the devil"s plan to take his life I have come to realize that many people serve God but only a few of them really understand how it works. However, a chronic sinner with right priorities and analytical in thinking, is most likely to succeed than a religious zealous with wrong priorities and poor analytic thinking |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Yeeyo:God doesn't build nations; people do. I weep for you. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Personally I am happy that religion or at least the way we practice it is finally coming under scrutiny. I believe it is a bigger problem than corruption |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by RealSleek(m): 1:23pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
erusen:I'm nt saying belief in God is a crime...all I'm saying is u cant rationalise it, it doesn't make sense to a rational mind |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by drnsoha(m): 1:25pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
TheGreenDay:This man is my Kind. True scientist and Learned people are always logical and rational thinkers. We ask Questions and not conclude on religious sentiments. No wonder Africans are living in a pre-scientific era. Our only problem is that people who don't understand us condemn us so much including our family. You buy an olive oil that was originally meant for cooking and you use it on your sick child who is just about to die. Foolishness! I have a family member who I heard used his "chosen" vest and soaked it in his drinking water believing he will get healed but finally died. Nigerians, learn to ask Questions. No wonder we have the worst Physicians. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:25pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Mopolchi:1. Jesus appeared to his disciples in the New Testament according to John 20 : 1-29 . Jesus , a spirit , could talk to them John 20 : 19 19 On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews,[c] Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”2. The disciples could see Him John 20 : 24-25 24 Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin,[d] was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.”3. Thomas could speak , touch hear and see Him - there is communication . John 20 : 26-29 26 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.4. Paul the apostle . Jesus appeared to him and rebuked his actions and wickedness to Christians Acts 26:12-16 12 “In this connection I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. 13 At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, that shone around me and those who journeyed with me. 14 And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language,[a] ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ 15 And I said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And the Lord said, ‘I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. 16 But rise and stand upon your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you as a servant and witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you,5. Paul reiterated his experience and the experiences of other Apostles whom Jesus appeared and spoke to . How could they identify Jesus since you cant see spirits ? Clearly seen in : 1 Corinthians 15:7-8 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me alsoEnough lessons for the day , I guess Mopolchi:Please this is not the jokes section . You've got good jokes up ya sleeves already . And where's that written in the bible ? You mean the idolatrous Catholic Church or the deceptive Catholic Church ? |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Masterclass32: 1:26pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Blured:Wrong. This experiences are different from what u call 'hallucinations' or 'psychosis'. They are spiritual and can't be percieved by the physical senses. I can't explain these things to u even if I wanted to. Even if I tried to, there's not way I could convince you. They are better experienced. But make no mistakes: Folks do hear God. From your comment its like u don't believe in God. If thats the case, then we shouldn't be having this conversation. It will lead us nowhere. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 7:18pm On Jan 05, 2016 |
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| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Vince77(m): 1:27pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
eleojo23:U r a sensible person. Well said. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 6:25pm On Feb 23, 2016 |
Wrong assertion |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
This is old news. I came across this here two years ago. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by ChinonsoDike2: 1:34pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
janellemonae:With your IQ of 75, this thread is way above your intellectual capacity. Ape. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
The thing I find amusing about religion is this, if you were born in the North to hausa fulani parents, you most likely would be a moslem, if you were born in the south especially the sout east, you most likely would be a christian. Thing is by fate the Usman Danfodio Jihad was defeated at ilorin, otherwise we would be an entirely Muslim country. Most people are christians or muslims by pure accident of birth depending on what faith their parents practised. You actually had no choice in the matter but we accept it and carry on like we know for sure....we dont know jack shit!!!! If the white man never colonised Africa, the same people shouting blood of Jesus would be stauchly defending what we now call African traditional religions The religious map of the world shows that predominance of different religion in the different areas of the world is simply a reflection of explorations, conquests and colonisation. You conquer a people and you impose your religion, because religion is how you control people. Fact is the religion you carry on your head like it's the be all and end all is just an accidental consequence of when, where and to what family you were born. Anything that is accidental and random cannot stand up to scrutiny. Religious followers will condemn you because questioning their religion that theyve practised all their life, is questioning their very foundations, it's like questioning whther your father is actuallly your biological father, it shakes your entire foundation. But the truth is just as you beleive your parents arent your parents, how many people have done a DNA test because it has been shown scientifically that close to a third of all children were not fathered by the man the call Dad! But just like religion, youve been told and beleive right from birth that this is so......it doesnt mean it is. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by modath(f): 1:36pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
dearpreye:My spouse & i were having this same convo just before i came across this thread!! I can tell you for a fact, despite not being in church (family road trip) that the sermon today is going to be about giving & it will remain so till end of march... All in a bid to prime the weak hearted to part with a full month's salary in the name of "first fruit offering" .. can't form queen kong & say i haven't fallen in the past but I'm wiser now... I give my "tithes & seeds" to people in real need (without fail), only put enough in the offering bag to cover Generators & sundries...I can't point to one charity my home church is actively contributing to, neither are there any kind of CSR we are a part of !! I also am not ready to fund anyone's opulent lifestyle neither am i interested in stadium like worship auditoriums.. ![]() Been "advised" to stop going to church cos of my numerous "questions & complaints" but that won't happen cos i can't front my own , & i need to belong someplace, moreover the empiricist haven't been able to win their own argument either.... ![]() |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by malvisguy212: 1:44pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
dominique:so what's the solution ? Ban religion ? Politics have done worst, should we banished politics ? The truth is you cannot force people to love each other, A God of Love want people to live in peace but will God force you to love your enemy ? NO. Evil must exist. Scripture say we just have to be prepared. Thank you. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:47pm On Jan 03, 2016*. Modified: 6:23pm On Feb 23, 2016 |
Masterclass32:alright if you say so. Thanks |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:49pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
@ Mopolchi ... sorry for the "Sharap " sha ... hope no love lost ![]() |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by dikeigbo2(m): 1:50pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
superior1:Just listen to yourself, you need data,you need proff to believe what he has just said,well you are the most vulnerable in the aforementioned issue,what the prof said is the XYZ of problems facing all the over religious countries the world over, Christianity is not a religion, but a way of life, living the way Christ lived. Religious life is a scam.while Christian life is an atitude.......in Antioch they were called Christians,because of the impeccable life of Christ they lived......pls get me corrected if there is any!!!!! |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Sall(m): 1:51pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Religion has always Been the problem in this country more holy than Christ that brought religion in to this world. Some extremist will not like this prof. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:This is an example of what the professor talks about the absence of rational thinking. If people are questioning your religion, you dont defend it by quoting your religious scripture, you quote scripture to those who have accepted your faith. If in a court trial i question the credibility of a witness, you dont respind by telling me what the witness said or saw, you respond by affirming the credibility of the witness, you respond by convincing me that the witness is credible, only when I am convinced of his credibility does what he has to say matter. Like the Prof said...absence of rational and critical thinking. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by erusen: 1:52pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Idrismusty97:.religion takes away ur reasoning that is for u,others are just fine with their lives.okay carson believe sometime u think it is stupid,sincerely it looks stupid,but what are u going to do,i have to problem with religous people outside africa.except u are going to burst peoples head and make them think like u.then u have to gather about 5.8 billion people.is a free world nigga,especially when it comes to our believes and opium as long as they doesnt endanger human life must be accomodated or if u dont like my idea u might jurt go to saudi arabia and shout"religion must go"till the day u go away from the earth.make a life of what u have and stop dying over other people believes. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by Masterclass32: 1:52pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Blured: ![]() You're funny. It was nice talking (abi typing?) with u. U have a great day. |
| Re: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by erusen: 1:55pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lookandlaff:so in a null shell the prof want every soul on earth to be athiest? |
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!!!... U are on point thou but some broomsticks among us get THORNS, as in Long pointed THORNS!!!... We ought to tell them their mistakes just to be sure that every one is carried along and continue maintaining our peaceful nature...AFRICA i know is truely blessed but due to GREED and OVER SABI, we have been diversified... BUT i still get hope we wil reach there.
can't form queen kong & say i haven't fallen in the past but I'm wiser now... I give my "tithes & seeds" to people in real need (without fail), only put enough in the offering bag to cover Generators & sundries...
