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| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Wizprodigy: 5:41pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:Illiteracy is indeed a disease. Which figures there are aba made? Is it the fact that the Whites give more respect to Achebes' books to soyinka's because he(Achebe)made more use of african culture and their way of life whereas soyinka was busy blowing big grammers? Is it the fact that the white folks knows that emegwali made internet what it is today whereas sarahareporters are busy saying trash about him? Is it the fact that you guys claim to teach igbos how to write in english but still became the V.C in the first university in Nigeria(U.I) and unilag. Is it the fact that igbos produced the best mathematicians in the person of Chike obi and Ezeilo while you guys with all those infrastructures couldn't even produce just one. With these few facts i think the stuffs i am pulling out of my anus is way better than the ones you pull out of your brain. Thank you. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by itstpia8: 5:43pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
christopher123:He is Yoruba, of two Yoruba parents both born in Nigeria just like him. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 6:21pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:Oh please relax. Quit this spamming already. Now, can you back you claim, what honour exactly? oh you mean Oral honour?Cheii ibo pple sha ![]() Dude, go on read history. Whatever you wrote up there does not change the fact that a Yoruba man taught Igbo how to read and write. And yes, an igbo man could be the first VC or whatever but that doesn't still change the fact that Yoruba beat Ibos in terms of "firsts" in all ramifications. http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Wizprodigy: 6:46pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:It seems your parent wasted their money trying to educate you. When has "honour" and "respect" begin to mean the same thing. Tell me which(if there is)Wole soyinka's book was written in more than ten languages and i will give you one of Achebe's book that was written in more that 15 languages. Yes it does not change the fact that crowther thought us English but come to think of it, you were first exposed to education but i became your V.C in two of your universities. What were your people doing? Owambe ofcourse. You claim to be better than the igbos in all ramification. Please in which area. Is it mathematics? Technology? Science? Business? Talk like you went to school. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 6:52pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Olaudah Equiano was the first African writer of international repute. The importance of his work as a foremost abolitionist covers all your yoruba writers and freedom fighters put together, Nobel or otherwise. The nation's firsts in science and technology and the academia were mostly igbos. The war came, but we rose from the ashes and are still waxing greater. The op is simply suffering from inferiority complex. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 7:20pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:What's essence of these without honour? Get over you emotions and face reality rather than providing with Oral glory and what many Yoruba scholar has achieved as a tribe or individuals. What's the essence of these without honour? Wole Soyinka Prize share: 1/1 The Nobel Prize in Literature 1986 was awarded to Wole Soyinka "who in a wide cultural perspective and with poetic overtones fashions the drama of existence". Yes Owambe is part of Yoruba culture, are you now attack yoruba race or the message? You kept hammering about VC, how many "firsts" didn't Yorubas achieved even before common VC of a thing? At the bolded ![]() Bros, quit spamming around joor |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SIRTee15: 7:27pm On Jan 09, 2016*. Modified: 8:59pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:yes, that was possible because nnamdi azikwe who was the president and responsible for those appointments in the early 1960's, was busy filling them up with his kith and kin....unilag, ui, yabatech......... He even attempted to appoint a non medical doctor as the CMD of UCH........when the appointment generated so much uproar, he reversed it yet made the same man the chairman of UCH board. In case you don't know, these controversial appointments in federal establishments in western Nigeria was the cause of the rift between akintola and awolowo.......... when awolowo was finally sent to prison and tafawa pulled out of the NCNC coalition, akintola made sure all those appointments were reversed. The case of unilag was quite interesting...... eni njoku refused to stay in unilag after he wasn't re-appointed and left for a uni in Michigan. the new VC, biobaku was stabbed by an irate eastern student, few weeks after assuming office. unilag was practically torn into 2 as the eastern academic staffs refused to have anything to do with their western colleagues..... so as u can see, u cant regard all those first's as achievement...........since they were all controversial as it can ever be..... |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Wizprodigy: 7:30pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:ok you only made mention of wole soyinka. CHINUA ACHEBE Known to be the father of african literature. His books sheds light on how the british invasion to igboland was met by stiff opposition. Noteable books he wrote are "Things fall apart", "There was a country". Most of his books were written in more than 15 language outside african. CHIKE OBI Known to be the first african with a phd in mathematics. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Wizprodigy: 7:35pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Please answer this question below with yes or no. SIRTee15:does it change the fact that igbos were the first V.C of three of your uni. If you do not answer, do not quote me. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 7:35pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:Is that all? Where is the award? There are countless of great men who left the world without honour nor even known for their works. But what conspicuous the few that are remembered today or known is " HONOUR " |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Wizprodigy: 7:50pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Have you forgotten that you said yorubas are better than the igbos in all ramification. Please which areas are they. For your information even with soyinka's award he was not called the father of african literature but an awardless achebe was? Please what does that say. totit: |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 7:57pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:Oral Honour, that's all I see. Read up : http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/may/20/chinua-achebe-nobel-prize-wole-soyinka Perhaps you quote the wrong person my friend. I was referring to most "firsts " achievement hence I used ajayi crowther as a points to drive home my points. Wasn't even disputing whatever claim you put up there. I.e First TV station. Radio station. First Two story building among others.. Ha han nah ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 8:00pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:Your parents and those before them, you, and those after are no longer slaves, thanks olaudah equiano, an Igbo man proud of his Igbo heritage. So ajayi crowther owe his non negotiable freedom mainly to equiano, an Igbo man and first African abolitionist. Achebe is revered even by Nobel laureates as the father of modern African literature, na only one Yoruba tribe dey cry blue murder because it wasn't Soyinka that was honored as such. NCNC or AC, merit was the order of the day during the colonial and pre civil war era. Dike (UI), Njoku (unilag), igbos in all spheres of the civil service deserved their posts because it was on merit. The firsts in the academia were igbos, sciences, arts, etc name them, or were they political too? Over and over again, threads like these have been championed by yorubas but once an Igbo man comes to debunk their ewedu induced lies, they begin to shout tribalists, ingrates, blah blah blah.... FFK learnt his lesson after his yoruba-better-than-igbo article was taken to the dustbin by an Igbo historian. OP your lesson too will come. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:03pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:Boy of anger. Warisdis ![]() Get over you emotion mr I need a mature mind. Waridis ![]() I don't deal with people who can't control their emotions, I prefer facts ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:07pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:You my friend should read this : Calls for the late Chinua Achebe to be awarded a posthumous Nobel prize for literature have "gone beyond 'sickening'" and become "obscene and irreverent", Achebe's fellow Nigerian author – and 1986 Nobel laureate – Wole Soyinka has said. In a wide-ranging and passionate interview with SaharaReporters, ahead of Achebe's funeral this week, Soyinka urged Achebe's "cohorts" to cease in their attempts "to confine Chinua's achievement space into a bunker over which hangs an unlit lamp labelled 'Nobel'". As a winner of the prize, Soyinka can nominate future laureates to the Swedish Academy, and said he had been receiving a series of letters begging him to put Achebe forward. "Let us quit this indecent exercise of fatuous plaints, including raising hopes, even now, with talk of 'posthumous' conferment, when you know damned well that the Nobel committee does not indulge in such tradition. It has gone beyond 'sickening'. It is obscene and irreverent. It desecrates memory," Soyinka told Sahara Reporters. "This conduct is gross disservice to Chinua Achebe and disrespectful of the life-engrossing occupation known as literature. How did creative valuation descend to such banality? Do these people know what they're doing – they are inscribing Chinua's epitaph in the negative mode of thwarted expectations. I find that disgusting." Soyinka, whose own Nobel citation praises him as an author "who in a wide cultural perspective and with poetic overtones fashions the drama of existence", asked if the award was really "what the literary enterprise is about? Was it the Nobel that spurred a young writer, stung by Eurocentric portrayal of African reality, to put pen to paper and produce Things Fall Apart?" Advertisement He added: "Chinua is entitled to better than being escorted to his grave with that monotonous, hypocritical aria of deprivation's lament, orchestrated by those who, as we say in my part of the world, 'dye their mourning weeds a deeper indigo than those of the bereaved'. He deserves his peace. Me too! And right now, not posthumously." Soyinka also rejected Achebe's often-repeated description as the father of African literature – a label Achebe himself had vehemently resisted. Soyinka said that "those who seriously believe or promote this must be asked: have you the sheerest acquaintance with the literatures of other African nations, in both indigenous and adopted colonial languages? What must the francophone, lusophone, Zulu, Xhosa, Ewe etc etc literary scholars and consumers think of those who persist in such a historic absurdity? It's as ridiculous as calling WS [Wole Soyinka] father of contemporary African drama! Or Mazisi Kunene father of African epic poetry. Or Kofi Awoonor father of African poetry. Education is lacking in most of those who pontificate." Soyinka said he regretted that he had never had the chance to challenge Achebe over his final book, There Was a Country: A Personal History of Biafra, which had been criticised in some quarters as "unduly divisive". "It is … a book I wish he had never written – that is, not in the way it was. There are statements in that work that I wish he had never made," he said. His parting tribute to the Things Fall Apart author, said Soyinka, would be the poem he wrote to Achebe when he turned 70. "I plan for it to be published on the day of his funeral – my way of taunting death, by pursuing that cultural, creative, even political communion that unites all writers with a decided vision of the possible – and even beyond the grave," he told Sahara Reporters. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:09pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:And what has Ibo debunked abeg? You my friend need to do away with aba, ibo made news and historian. Read true history below abeg http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html Oya oya go on now feed your head ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 8:21pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:I think you should be the one to feed your head because there is nothing new in the link you posted. Before there ever was a crowther, there was an equiano... So your points are stale dude. Do more studies. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:27pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:Hhehehe Funny dude, read una no go read ![]() Go on, cope the text from the link provided with his achievements. Shey na him helpu yoruba man na? ![]() Very funny dude. Thanks for the comit relief shaWait sef, what did u wrote his achievement were sef? Don forget I know ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 8:28pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:Mouth mouth mouth....facts that your deluded eyes fail to acknowledge. Yorubas are not in ANY way better, smarter, or more intelligent than igbos - FACT. You are only suffering from inferiority complex. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:29pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:He e don change tone sef Hehehehehe Bro, provide you facts nah. Let's see nah Eyah ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 8:31pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:As usual, always trying to save face by trying to sound informed....we keep debunking your tales by moonlight. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:33pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:Bro, you need to relax. So far I have been able to counter you " achebe is the father of bla bla. Please, all I ask for is, provide facts, let's see if I will be able to counter it or not. No be fight bro Calm down. This is a faceless forum abeg ![]() |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SonOfEl(m): 8:39pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
totit:Its like you need traffic in these thread. Threads like this have long taken to the cleaners long ago. You are a new comer, I won't oblige your ignorance. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Mckennedy: 8:41pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
WIZGUY69:Trash |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by totit: 8:41pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
SonOfEl:Far from it bro. Ok, let me burst you small sef ![]() And I quote you :Your parents and those before them, you, and those after are no longer slaves, thanks olaudah equiano, an Igbo man proud of his Igbo heritage. Now, let our viewers read the link below so that they can decide who's here to joke or serious. http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html Oya nah ![]() Choi Hehehe Lolz ![]() I don taya for u oo |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Mckennedy: 8:45pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Amberon:Corn head..keep deluding yourself. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by SIRTee15: 8:54pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
Wizprodigy:My intention is to brief you properly about the genesis of those appointments. And I believe now u know better. Your response to my post or your irrelevant question is inconsequential to me. I'm in no mood for diatribe. |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by christopher123(m): 8:58pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
itstpia8:Why don't we heard their relatives |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by christopher123(m): 9:05pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
ceemere:I have ignored him since |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Amberon: 9:39pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
bleerrr!!!! you're talking to your shadow!!! Mckennedy: |
| Re: Igbo And Yoruba - Recent Achievements Overseas/ Who Is Cat, Who Is Rat? by Larriekay: 9:44pm On Jan 09, 2016 |
WIZGUY69:killer points |
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