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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by whobemumu(m): 3:38am On Jan 18, 2016
Sonsquest:


HPV has been discovered for so long. Over 50 years ago.

Yea I didn't want to go back that far I first knew of it at least 15 years ago , not to say u are wrong just telling ppl it is nowhere near new
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by whobemumu(m): 3:39am On Jan 18, 2016
Sonsquest:


HPV has been discovered for so long. Over 50 years ago.

Didn't want to go to point of discovery just letting ppl know it is nowhere near new
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by bayinq25(m): 3:52am On Jan 18, 2016
knightsTempler:
Nigerians are so desperate for a divine intervention, because they have lost hope in their government. Then enter churches of various colors to fill in the vacuum created by inept government, by preying and exploiting the weaknesses of Nigerians. As this sense of hopelessness grows by leaps and bounds, a lucrative business - A NEW BRAND OF CHRISTIAN RELIGION - erupted like a volcano, and captured almost every Nigerian from high level politicians to the lowest janitor like a storm. These men and women who run these churches, and the people who patronize them, have combined to create and constitute nuisances and menaces to a society that is already deluged by uncontrollable level of noises through their audacious and loquacious ways of worships. I hope the authorities would not just stop at these Nuevo Christian Churches, who are just swindling these poor unsuspecting worshippers, and extend this act to other noisy religious organizations and businesses as well.
God bless you
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by bayinq25(m): 3:57am On Jan 18, 2016
humanbeing5th:
the thunders dat will fire seun, lalasticlala, sahara reporters and all who bring dis shiit to frontpage is already being imported from china and packaged inside containers on d ship below on its way to nigeria, but by d time its reach apapa seaport, just 4get it dey are all gonnas
You're one of the problems Christianity is facing...even if there are derogatory statements against your religion,hate and curse words shouldn't come out from a true Christian...I really cannot phantom why Africans use religion as a medium of expressing hatred and anger.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by bayinq25(m): 4:05am On Jan 18, 2016
handsomeclouds:
Pastor Adeboye's prophecies for 2016 are no different from his previous ones - he has managed to keep everything fuzzed up and has avoided being specific so as not to incriminate himself in the future. However, there is one item on his list that requires scrutiny because I believe it shows Pastor Adeboye to be a manipulative person. I shall return to this in a moment.
Pastor Adeboye
First, let us build a quick picture of the man. Pastor Adeboye is probably the most influential pastor in Nigeria. His church has branches in almost 100 countries around the world, with an estimated 14,000 churches in Nigeria alone. The Redeemed Camp is responsible for perennial traffic congestion on the Lagos-Ibadan motorway because of where it is situated and the sheer size of the congregation that worships there. Whether the church has done enough to forestall this problem and alleviate the sufferings of road users is a subject for another day. Pastor Adeboye's fund raising methods are a cause for concern. He announced plans in 2013 to build a church auditorium of approximately 3km in length (http://dailypost.ng/2013/08/14/three-kilometer-auditorium-angry-nigerians-blast-adeboye-say-n1billion-per-person-donation-is-criminal/). To fund the project, he told his followers: "We need N1 billion from ten people . . . We also need N100 million from those who can afford it. Please see my secretary." How many hard-working people with unquestionable source of income would dole out money on a project like that which will not yield any returns for them? This behaviour encourages corruption - the thieves who steal our commonwealth will see this as an act of buying penance from God. Pastor Adeboye is importunate - he never tires of using mental gimmicks to persuade his members to give him money. Only last month, he was reported to have told them: "Let me tell you the truth, the only reason we still take offerings is to get you out of poverty. When you give offerings you’re sending money to heaven." A few years ago, he claimed that he drove his car without fuel from Ore to Lagos to a thunderous applause from his congregation. It beggars belief that anyone would believe this story. To complete the picture, take a look at his 2015 prophecies and decide for yourselves whether he made any ground-breaking predictions or if he just played safe by refusing to make specific statements. (https://secure.saharareporters.com/2015/01/02/end-year-prophecies-ijabla-raymond#.VKbHn0sJtN4.wordpress). Notice that he had prophesied: "Daddy (referring to God) says all over the world insurgencies will be considerately weakened." The terrorist activities of jihadi groups like ISIS, Boko Haram (BH) and al-Shabab in 2015 do not support this prediction. This observation alone completely invalidates his claim of speaking the mind of God.

Let's return to the 2016 prophecies which can be found on the church's website: http://rccg.org/prophesies-for-year-2016/. Pastor Adeboye prophesied that, "a new sexually transmitted disease will surface." But he does not disclose that he received this revelation from newspapers and medical journals. British researchers announced late last year the discovery of a "new" sexually transmitted disease (STD) called mycoplasma genitalium (http://www.nhs.uk/news/2015/11November/Pages/New-sexually-transmitted-infection-MG-may-be-widespread.aspx). It is worth noting that pastor Adeboye does not give the name of the new STD and its causative organism like researchers always do. Does God whom he claims to speak for not know this information? Why does he not specify where, how and when the disease will surface? How bizarre for an omni-benevolent God to announce the emergence of a new disease but not the cure? Curiously, God was also silent about BH and the abducted Chibok girls, the fall in the price of crude oil and its effect on our economy, the agitation for the state of Biafra, climate change, the conflict in Syria. Pastor Adeboye's prophecies portray God as someone who is always silent on the issues with real implications for our daily existence. That, of course, is based on the assumption that God exists and that He speaks to the pastor. I could never understand how someone can know the mind of an entity they cannot even prove exists. What is obvious is that pastor Adeboye, like the rest of his fellow prophets, relies on the BBC, CNN and other news media to formulate his prophecies.  
The reason this situation bothers me is because literally tens of millions of Nigerians believe that God speaks through this man. Accordingly, the choices they make in life are guided by every word he speaks. Collectively, Adeboye and his fellow pastopreneurs have turned a generation of Nigerians into magical thinkers and have destroyed critical thinking. Even our universities and other centres of learning are not immune from their destructive influence - believe it or not there are professors who believe that prayers can make a car drive without fuel just as pastor Adeboye proposed; that diseases can be caused by evil spirits; that witches and wizards are responsible for infertility; and so on.  

Thankfully, the days of lying to Nigerians are drawing to a close. Information is the greatest weapon against ignorance, fear, superstitions and exploitations. Nigerians now have access to the internet and can easily cross check facts. By this time next year, we would know if a new STD has been discovered and if indeed God speaks to pastor Adeboye. 

Ijabla Raymond is a medical doctor and he writes from the UK. He can be contacted at ijabijay@me.com or Ijabla.Raymond@facebook.com
http://saharareporters.com/2016/01/15/pastor-adeboye-prophet-or-imposter-candid-look-his-2016-prophecies-ijabla-raymond
The funniest part is that Africans paste the pictures of Robert Powell who casted as Jesus in a movie on their cars and doors and pray to the picture

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by ybalogs(m): 4:15am On Jan 18, 2016
9jacrip:





The O.P/writer killed me.

This is pure humour laden with cold truth.
Cold truth ke? The truth still dey hot as I see it oooo

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by ybalogs(m): 4:16am On Jan 18, 2016
bayinq25:
The funniest part is that Africans paste the pictures of Robert Powell who casted as Jesus in a movie on their cars and doors and pray to the picture
Not just Africans but the world at large
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by ybalogs(m): 4:19am On Jan 18, 2016
coolzeal:
It's amazing how Nigerians fall for this cheap prophecy and stunts from men that claimed to be servant of God. Are people really that gullible and daft? Sometimes, you gotta stop being afraid and ask questions.
No chances for Questions faaa, they sure know Nigerians will totally unravel all their lies if given the chance. The gullibility is what I still don't understand.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by ybalogs(m): 4:22am On Jan 18, 2016
agya1:
Sometimes I just get confused about these men of God, yet can't speak cos they're "God's anointed".
Only last Sunday in the RCCG parish I worship, it was announced that folks interested in having a dinner with the "Daddy G.O" as he's normally called should pay an Access fee of N20k. Was left confused about the whole thing though as to why the "N20k Access fee"? Why must every thing be about money? Just wondering though
So without the 20k,no show niyen ooo. Hmmm, we're really approaching endtime
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by amanikondo: 4:25am On Jan 18, 2016
agya1:
Sometimes I just get confused about these men of God, yet can't speak cos they're "God's anointed".
Only last Sunday in the RCCG parish I worship, it was announced that folks interested in having a dinner with the "Daddy G.O" as he's normally called should pay an Access fee of N20k. Was left confused about the whole thing though as to why the "N20k Access fee"? Why must every thing be about money? Just wondering though

[size=17pt]Jesus self feed multitude for free, people plenty and dem no pay money[/size]
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by akuracy(m): 6:01am On Jan 18, 2016
When you take a very good look at the tone of the writer, he's one of a kind that finds glory in social malady. He only mentioned that Adeboye requested his members to N1billion and N100million, he refused to state that the aforementioned contribution was narrowed down to N100, and also claims that donating to a church project leads to corruption, he should be flogged for this.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by paxonel(m): 6:04am On Jan 18, 2016
Innodon:
Man of God
it is not a surprise that adeboye is successful in his crafts.
Afterall, even babalawo and juju priests have been very successful in Africa over the years due to high patronage of the people.
why are Africans keep patronizing the likes of adeboye and babalawos and juju and orumilas them without being realistic that we are already in modern day of truth and awareness?
it because they are afraid of the unknown.
They are so afraid of the future, whether they will be successful or not.
They are so afraid of everything such that they loose self confidence (inspite the fact that Jesus says he has given us power ) and run after the adeboyes and babalawos for regular rituals, wasting so much of their money.
na God go save Africa

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by xtervaganza(m): 6:22am On Jan 18, 2016
Degis:
Obviously, this writer lost the plot with this is meaningless missive when he tries to con his readers by appealing to sentiments.

He said Adeboye prophesied that Boko Haram and ISIS will be considerably weakened, this can be verified easily by studying the modu operandi of these guys, which an independent verifier will agree. Does Boko Haram and ISIS still hold as much territories like before?. No.

He ranted about Adeboye's fuel less driving, this shouldn't elicit any controversy because all through history, God has shown Himself in diverse ways and means by doing anything at anytime for whosoever He wished.

I guess he should be asking Adeboye how a boy from the backwaters of Ifewara could become one of the most influential persons in the Universe

On the fund raising debacle, I still wonder, how he had expected Adeboye to have raised the funds, when he gave opportunity to everyone to come in at his or her level. Adeboye called from 1 billion to 100 Naira but because this fellow cocooned in his 2 by 2 studio flat in middle of a nowhere borough in the UK could not imagine that there are people in Nigeria that can give millions of Naira to God's work without battling an eyelid

I am happy to inform these our perennial naysayers that the Project has been built and dedicated to the Glory of God

i pity u
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by xtervaganza(m): 6:24am On Jan 18, 2016
kekakuz:
[size=20pt] that is it
The last straw
I don't even have to read this trash
Nairaland moderator are taking Christians for granted
You don't see shiiits like this about Islam on Friday on front page
This is bullshitt
Seun please do something about this before you are implicated [/size]
calm your t1ts
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by munex007(m): 6:30am On Jan 18, 2016
I can see the fear of the truth in your write up..I dare you to read the article with an independent mind and refute the claims op put forward..

You don't need a mere mortal like adeboye to reach God...Wake in the middle of the night call out to your creator tell him to guide you to the right path...The path of those he has favoured not this scammers called men of god

"Mathematics has helpled humanity more than religion"


kekakuz:
[size=20pt] that is it
The last straw
I don't even have to read this trash
Nairaland moderator are taking Christians for granted
You don't see shiiits like this about Islam on Friday on front page
This is bullshitt
Seun please do something about this before you are implicated [/size]

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by DarkHenrie(m): 6:40am On Jan 18, 2016
I make it bold to say that all pastors are crooks. If your God wants to tell me something he should say it to me directly. Any man or woman who claims to have God's contact and is in constant communication with him is not just a crook, but a conscienceless one at that.
theSpark:


The article in the OP is not enough evidence to say the Pastor is a crook.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by totorimi: 6:59am On Jan 18, 2016
OP do you know the implications of what you are saying, GEJ knelt down before this Adeboye and even our VP is a pastor in his church,A lot of bank MD's and captains of industry worship in his church.

To say such a man is manipulative means Naija is in trouble, Whatever he is whether he is speaking the mind of God or he is the mouthpiece I think Nigeria as a nation has endorsed him as one of our spiritual heads.
Let God do His work of judging them and if HE won't judge them then who ate you to judge them and therefore you cannot blame the weak people for believing them.

If a pastors has been doing something for Years in the name of the Lord and getting away with it why won't people believe in what he is doing.
As it stands now l, its whatever suits you do it. The world it may seem is on auto pilot until further notice. people seem yo have lost the power of discerning things and asking relevant questions.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 7:01am On Jan 18, 2016
OP why not pick other interesting and trending topics and leave the man of God out of this...There are better topics that will give u more likes than this...let God judge this
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by whobemumu(m): 7:03am On Jan 18, 2016
totorimi:
OP do you know the implications of what you are saying, GEJ knelt down before this Adeboye and even our VP is a pastor in his church,A lot of bank MD's and captains of industry worship in his church.

To say such a man is manipulative means Naija is in trouble, Whatever he is whether he is speaking the mind of God or he is the mouthpiece I think Nigeria as a nation has endorsed him as one of our spiritual heads.
Let God do His work of judging them and if HE won't judge them then who ate you to judge them and therefore you cannot blame the weak people for believing them.

If a pastors has been doing something for Years in the name of the Lord and getting away with it why won't people believe in what he is doing.
As it stands now l, its whatever suits you do it. The world it may seem is on auto pilot until further notice. people seem yo have lost the power of discerning things and asking relevant questions.



you sure left your brain at the ashawo house
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Segloyd(m): 7:21am On Jan 18, 2016
Raymond, watch your mouth and what you say about MEN OF GOD. Otherwise your unborn great grand children will share from the punishment.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by amy4Christ20: 7:22am On Jan 18, 2016
The man of God is speaking the truth and also the mind of God. So please can you mind your own business before you incure the wrath of God upon yourself
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 7:31am On Jan 18, 2016
Degis:
Obviously, this writer lost the plot with this is meaningless missive when he tries to con his readers by appealing to sentiments.

He said Adeboye prophesied that Boko Haram and ISIS will be considerably weakened, this can be verified easily by studying the modu operandi of these guys, which an independent verifier will agree. Does Boko Haram and ISIS still hold as much territories like before?. No.

He ranted about Adeboye's fuel less driving, this shouldn't elicit any controversy because all through history, God has shown Himself in diverse ways and means by doing anything at anytime for whosoever He wished.

I guess he should be asking Adeboye how a boy from the backwaters of Ifewara could become one of the most influential persons in the Universe

On the fund raising debacle, I still wonder, how he had expected Adeboye to have raised the funds, when he gave opportunity to everyone to come in at his or her level. Adeboye called from 1 billion to 100 Naira but because this fellow cocooned in his 2 by 2 studio flat in middle of a nowhere borough in the UK could not imagine that there are people in Nigeria that can give millions of Naira to God's work without battling an eyelid

I am happy to inform these our perennial naysayers that the Project has been built and dedicated to the Glory of God

You should be flogged. I will gladly do the honours if you were in front of me
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 7:31am On Jan 18, 2016
amy4Christ20:
The man of God is speaking the truth and also the mind of God. So please can you mind your own business before you incure the wrath of God upon yourself

Why are you so da..ft?
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by atoleybaba(m): 7:39am On Jan 18, 2016
agya1:
Sometimes I just get confused about these men of God, yet can't speak cos they're "God's anointed".
Only last Sunday in the RCCG parish I worship, it was announced that folks interested in having a dinner with the "Daddy G.O" as he's normally called should pay an Access fee of N20k. Was left confused about the whole thing though as to why the "N20k Access fee"? Why must every thing be about money? Just wondering though
am happy this is coming from who worship with rccg...some people will never open their eyes.they will prefer be deceived by supposed men of God. Exploiting people's wealth what Jesus didn't do
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by atoleybaba(m): 7:42am On Jan 18, 2016
Degis:
Obviously, this writer lost the plot with this is meaningless missive when he tries to con his readers by appealing to sentiments.

He said Adeboye prophesied that Boko Haram and ISIS will be considerably weakened, this can be verified easily by studying the modu operandi of these guys, which an independent verifier will agree. Does Boko Haram and ISIS still hold as much territories like before?. No.

He ranted about Adeboye's fuel less driving, this shouldn't elicit any controversy because all through history, God has shown Himself in diverse ways and means by doing anything at anytime for whosoever He wished.

I guess he should be asking Adeboye how a boy from the backwaters of Ifewara could become one of the most influential persons in the Universe

On the fund raising debacle, I still wonder, how he had expected Adeboye to have raised the funds, when he gave opportunity to everyone to come in at his or her level. Adeboye called from 1 billion to 100 Naira but because this fellow cocooned in his 2 by 2 studio flat in middle of a nowhere borough in the UK could not imagine that there are people in Nigeria that can give millions of Naira to God's work without battling an eyelid

I am happy to inform these our perennial naysayers that the Project has been built and dedicated to the Glory of God

and that is why d rich as a special place to sit at d auditorium whenever a program is held there....
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by engrlarex(m): 7:50am On Jan 18, 2016
what I know is that Everybody is a man of God in Nigeria. this almost cost chaos at ATM stand, imagine on the queue a man who came to collect money is Preaching for me, I've seen economic hardship on his face, I told people that the irresponsibility of government has made must of us not to think straight again, so we fall back on religion coz of the notion we have that our economic hardship is spiritual probably due to one woman in the village, i told him why will an agile man be preaching from Obalende to Oshodi, and begging for money to sustain the ministry inside molue bus. this country is another name for comedy.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by kennethchidi(m): 8:00am On Jan 18, 2016
humanbeing5th:
the thunders dat will fire seun, lalasticlala, sahara reporters and all who bring dis shiit to frontpage is already being imported from china and packaged inside containers on d ship below on its way to nigeria, but by d time its reach apapa seaport, just 4get it dey are all gonnas
bros,dats a Grimaldi's ship from Grimaldi shipping line. when did dey start shipping thunders? lol.......just kidding. God help us.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by landlord01(m): 8:16am On Jan 18, 2016
I don't have any issue with d writer whatsoever. I don't want to be too quick to criticize the writeup. Among the prophecies of 2015 is that Ebola would be eradicated among others that came to pass. Even the terrorism has been weakend b4 the end of last year. Come to think of it. Some of this men of God have passed or passing through what majority of us can't withstand. Yet we will be criticizing them. How many of us can fast for 25days(both day and night) let alone our grandfathers at 70s. How many can stand for 5hrs when laying hands on people at That age. Many of us can't try this,yet we are criticizing them when God is rewarding them. I have so many points but I have to stop here. There are fake pastors though. God will judge by Himself
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Maximus85(m): 8:22am On Jan 18, 2016
One word that caught my attention was pastopreneurs wow! I like that word.

Any pastor that claim God is speaking to him should be careful cos it may be Satan speaking to him. God has ceased from speaking directly to human since a very long time. I have proof in the Bible ooo. Satan can change into an angel of light, gullible ones, remember?
You must also know that Satan gives good health, wealth and fame to those following him directly or indirectly. Many today are following him without even knowing, so they, in a way get favour from Lucifar.

To the pastopreneurs claiming he drove his car on empty tank from canal to Canada...... More power to your elbow.
All the miracles performed in the Bible are logical, not magic. Water to wine, parting the red Sea, hushing the wild sea, jonah in the belly of a big fish etc but a car running on empty tank? Jeeeeeeeeeeeesu
190million people can't be stupid as the man thinks.

It's good that people are starting to think. These religious leaders are only using these gullible people and the government for their selfish gains.

They are referred to as the prostitute in the book of Revelation because they jump from one bed to the other, riding on the wild beast (the government) feeling fly that nothing fit happen to am. And suddenly, the wild beast will turn on her and devour her. The beast, government and the gullible ones go give demsef brain and wake up.

Get out of her now so that you wouldn't be destroyed with her. Dansukigate VS All the Pastopreneurs coming soon.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by AlPeter: 8:22am On Jan 18, 2016
DarkHenrie:
You respect a crook notwithstanding?
Ignorant that's what you are. Do you know the sacrifices most of these men of God have made and are still making? If you want to prove them wrong why don't you go start a church grow it to 500 members without using occult powers then come back here and boast

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Maximus85(m): 8:26am On Jan 18, 2016
landlord01:
I don't have any issue with d writer whatsoever. I don't want to be too quick to criticize the writeup. Among the prophecies of 2015 is that Ebola would be eradicated among others that came to pass. Even the terrorism has been weakend b4 the end of last year. Come to think of it. Some of this men of God have passed or passing through what majority of us can't withstand. Yet we will be criticizing them. How many of us can fast for 25days(both day and night) let alone our grandfathers at 70s. How many can stand for 5hrs when laying hands on people at That age. Many of us can't try this,yet we are criticizing them when God is rewarding them. I have so many points but I have to stop here. There are fake pastors though. God will judge by Himself

No human can live for 14days without food. Ask your doctor. I'm not gonna judge but how sure are you that they don't eat? Be sincere.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: A Prophet Or An Imposter - Sahara Reporters by Maximus85(m): 8:28am On Jan 18, 2016
AlPeter:
A Ignorant that's what you are. Do you know the sacrifices most of these men of God have made and are still making? If you want to prove them wrong why don't you go start a church grow it to 500 members without using occult powers then come back here and boast

How are you sure this one is free of occultic powers? Fayawos can run their cars on the petrol in other cars around them. This is occultic and the man said the same thing. Running his car on empty tank. Solar cars never come that time ooo

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