Sijo01:


The omo'N oba you're talking about is the name adopted by the present oba (Erediauwa) and not a title. Every obas adopts other names once crowned.

Lmao...

You people and adoption, na wah!

Yoruba adopted Oba and then you adopted Omo n'Oba...please hush if you have nothing cogent to contribute.

You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
I am a yoruba man and I am not ashamed to tell the truth.

The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?

Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne..... You do the math..

And please Oduduwa didnt come from Mecca or fall from the skies with a chain.

One of the problem with this part of Africa is the lack of detailed historical record and research

OPCNAIRALAND:


You got it mixed up pardner.

Bini is a migrant group to Edoland. Binis are the State Rulers that emigrated from Ile Ife and ruled over Edoland.

The pre State, under rulership of Ogiso ended its dynastic power when the Ile Ife State Rulers arrived and established a new dynasty, cults and Statehood.

There is nothing in traditional Edo custom called Olokun. This was Yoruba cult, so was Ifa and Obatala, which the migrant rulers established and which you practice till today.

Yoruba did to Edo what Fulani did to Hausa, except our language persisted as the court vernacular until very recently....in fact right around the Independence of Nigeria...whereas Fulani adopted the language of the conquered.

Separate Bini from Edo sharp sharp! Edo is not Yoruba but Bini is part and parcel Yoruba and nothing you can do to erase it.

OPCNAIRALAND:


You should discuss with somebguys in culture section about this, im sure they will spark this discussion in ways you could not imagine. 9jacrip, Prexios, Metaphysical, Lawani. These guys are insane with the stuffs they bring out...after reading their amazing insights my mouth be opened like "aaaaahhh". ...

You must set bait otherwise they wouldnt respond to you. All that stuff you talk about here connect it with Lamurudu or Oduduwa, ehnhen.....they will bite the hook.

It takes you to rout metaphysical from the enchanted land.

if you put am macof na you sabi.

good morning brother.

eleyi gisky gan o.

this topic has been argued right from when I knew nairaland.

it will never stop. if you see them in culture section arguing this, you go fear.


I believe its more realistic that oduduwa did not fall from the sky, he came from somewhere- probably Bini to rule the Yoruba people.
he was a prince(maybe banished) from Bini.

that's why he sent his son to rule Bini.

so, Yoruba people had their culture before oduduwa.
an exchange of cultures just happened then.

We have heard.

OPCNAIRALAND:


We should ask them self, since they claim Oba is a recent adaptation by Yoruba to then tell us how we came about the name prefix.

Obafemi
Obayemi
Obadare
Obaseki

The Chief said the "adaptation" started in the 1950s. So the question is did any body bear Obafemi, Obayomi, Obasanjo, Obaseki before the 50s? Lolz!

AlAll these tantrum lol that Benin spokemen is in ut for a long time,am just waiting for an epic and mesmerizing response from ooni and all the Yoruba kings,wish he survive when all the kings in Yoruba land descend on them

sybarite7:
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG, OMO N' OBA MEANS THE CHILD THAT IS OBA(KING)

The child that is Oba is an identifier, not a titular.

Come up with something else please.

Oba of Benin, the development of your region should be of paramount importance to you than engaging in an unproductive issues

True talk.Yorubas should accept their status in Bini kingdom.

riddler4real:
You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
I am a yoruba man and I am not ashamed to tell the truth.

The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?

Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne..... You do the math..

And please Oduduwa didnt come from Mecca or fall from the skies with a chain.

One of the problem with this part of Africa is the lack of detailed historical record and research

The yorubas will never agree to this..... But that's the plain truth

OPCNAIRALAND:


The child that is Oba is an identifier, not a titular.

Come up with something else please.

HAVE AIRED MY VIEW,IF U DONT LIKE IT PLS PASS

Anayordike:


The Chief said the "adaptation" started in the 1950s. So the question is did any booty bear Obafemi, Obayomi, Obasanjo, Obaseki before the 50s? Lolz!

olodo rabata so obafemi awolowo also started in the 50s,children of now adays seff

Anayordike:


The Chief said the "adaptation" started in the 1950s. So the question is did any booty bear Obafemi, Obayomi, Obasanjo, Obaseki before the 50s? Lolz!

Hahahahahahaha.... ;

Obafemi Awolowo was born after Yorubas adopted Oba in 1950s.

These are clowns!

Ejemehn:



Binis are not yorubas. They have never been and will never be. If Cuba and Brazil are claiming Yoruba, so be it. But Edos are not Yoruba. They have never begged to be part of Yoruba nation and will never be.

thumbs up u ave said it all!

sybarite7:


HAVE AIRED MY VIEW,IF U DONT LIKE IT PLS PASS

Your view has been thrashed! Move on please...

Ouch!
The final nail in the coffin.

Anayordike:


The Chief said the "adaptation" started in the 1950s. So the question is did any body bear Obafemi, Obayomi, Obasanjo, Obaseki before the 50s? Lolz!

Yes Obafemi Awolowo

OPCNAIRALAND:


It is indisputable that Oba is a titular position and belongs to Yoruba culture, not Benin.

So why is King of Benin a titular Omo n'Oba (the descendant of Oba), can the Benin palace give us clarity on this?

Thank you. Oodua a gbe wa o!

This is a fallacy! Then how come the heads of Benin kings are are always taken to ife for burial? Foolish old men distorting history

You say this 'Owodo' fellow was a Prince of Benin whose father was an 'Oba' and that he 'wandered' into some uncharted forest region called 'Ife' bearing all the wisdom his father's kingdom...now, by logical deduction, shouldn't the 'Ooni' of Ife be the 'Oba' of Ife?....

Ouch!
The final nail in the coffin.

OPCNAIRALAND:


You got it mixed up pardner.

Bini is a migrant group to Edoland. Binis are the State Rulers that emigrated from Ile Ife and ruled over Edoland.

The pre State, under rulership of Ogiso ended its dynastic power when the Ile Ife State Rulers arrived and established a new dynasty, cults and Statehood.

There is nothing in traditional Edo custom called Olokun. This was Yoruba cult, so was Ifa and Obatala, which the migrant rulers established and which you practice till today.

Yoruba did to Edo what Fulani did to Hausa, except our language persisted as the court vernacular until very recently....in fact right around the Independence of Nigeria...whereas Fulani adopted the language of the conquered.

Separate Bini from Edo sharp sharp! Edo is not Yoruba but Bini is part and parcel Yoruba and nothing you can do to erase it.

Bini didn't emigrate from Ife... from reliable accounts, there was already a Bini ruled by ogisos at the time we had Ile-ife too.
It was a run-away prince from Bini named Izoduwa that found his way to Ile-ife after wandering and was made king as there were divinations that the next king of Ile-ife will appear from the bush.
He was re-christened Oduduwa in Ife. Bini kingdom ran into problems and when they consulted Oracle, it was said that the only solution was to recall a wrongly banished prince - Izoduwa back into the kingdom. Oduduwa couldn't follow them when they came to beg him but sent his son - Oramiyan who abolished the ogiso reign and started kingship.
Oranmiyan left after a while too and returned to Ile-ife but met a king on the throne of Ife, he left to establish Oyo kingdom.
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This line is supported in both Bini and Oyo kingdom history who believe they have close ties through the common Oranmiyan rule.

I learned from history that the Edo people were subject (slaves; they are been used for farming activities by the Yorubas.) to the Yoruba Kingdom and due to the large expense of the Kingdom, that was what necessitated Yoruba King in Bini.

HermajestyQ:
if wah u say is true, Y is it that oduduwa is more reverenced in Edo traditions than Yoruba's. You will hear Edo names like Osakeoduwa, Okoduwa...etc but not d same with Yoruba names. I think d Edo chief is right.

You are right to an extent, but we have also odua people's Congress, odua holdings. .. It's a way of preserving it too not necessarily by names

riddler4real:
You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
I am a yoruba man and I am not ashamed to tell the truth.

The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?

Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne..... You do the math..

And please Oduduwa didnt come from Mecca or fall from the skies with a chain.

One of the problem with this part of Africa is the lack of detailed historical record and research

if none of those happened,

why did the one you prefer happen?

preferential history.

It is sentiments if you protect a part that suites you and crown it with argument that favour you.

Leave oduduwa out of it and try to rewrite the story.

Don't borrow from your adversary.

some folks here who were born yesterday are already claiming they know more than history smh! comparing the oba of bini with any other western king is an insult of the highest order, if fact in terms of power and class he is superior to the rest. For those who are willing to learn more why not peruse the article below for enlightenment.
www.edofolks.com/html/pub133.htm

Sijo01:


Yes, omo means child in Bini

you be policewoman?

Who has the oba helped

OPCNAIRALAND:


I already told you Edo is not Yoruba, Bini is.

Where and how did you get Olokun, Obatala, and other deities of the Yoruba pantheon?

How did Ogiso come about Olokun?

which year did olokun came to benin? D matter is beyond what u can comprehend, better wait for alake to reply in his own version

LastSurvivor:


It seems ur obsessed with Igbos..
Hw did Igbos get to this discussion please?
u don hear obaAbioba onitsha before

the word obi actually comes from the word oba. The people onitsha migrated from bini

OPCNAIRALAND:


It is indisputable that Oba is a titular position and belongs to Yoruba culture, not Benin.

So why is King of Benin a titular Omo n'Oba (the descendant of Oba), can the Benin palace give us clarity on this?

Omo Ale, must u quote the whole thing, Anu mpama.