KingEbukasBlog:

Man made religion .

KingEbukasBlog:


Man made religion .

Scholar8200:
was it insanity and/or barbarism when he expected a child from a barren, dead womb, he himself being more or less dead?(simply because God promised it)
And did he get what he expected?
Will it also be insanity if he assayed to obey that command with same expectation that God will raise the child up back again?
Answer YES or NO.
Would you honestly say this in the light of what we find in the early Church and their communities?
And those people spoke for over 700 million? Is every christian under the pope? And how many people were thus tested in the WHOLE BIBLE afterwards?
Can this be proven on the field, using the Bible and from history? As an atheist, what should be society's basis for morality?
Abraham had to choose to be blessed, his free moral agency had to play a part.

Scholar8200:
The generation you are referring to where those before the flood! After the flood, it was shorter! For example, Nahor, Abraham's grandpa died at 119, Terah Abraham's dad lived to 205. Nahor had a son at 29 years of age, Terah at 70 etc Quite different from what obtained before the flood.

sonofthunder:

your patience sir is out of this world... this is new moniker, you may not remember the previous one.

Scholar8200:
I know one sonofthunder here before, are you the one?

KingEbukasBlog:


I told you in all honesty that I dont know if I will or not . Only God knows just like He evidently did in the case of Abraham .

sonofthunder:

I had another moniker before this .... shyna01... but its been deactivated.

pjhyde:
truth and justice are relative and they change with times and prevailing environment. what is right today may not be right tomorrow and what is right here may not be right there. during the times of Abraham, animal sacrifice was not a sin, and the significant part of the animal in such sacrifice is the blood. in this special case God commanded abraham to use his son's blood instead of an animal's blood. this was a loyalty test for abraham. yes you may want to ask about the omniscience of God, but let me also tell you that man has the power of choice which we got after adam eat the forbidden fruit in eden, jonah displayed this power when he was sent on a 'suicide' mission by God. abraham passed by his willingness to give that which is dearest to him unto God....that is love, but God will not allow him kill son....that is compassion. God is a God of justice and if He supports murder then He wouldn't have punished Cain. today because God is aware of our kind of society, He will not test you with anything that is against the law of the land, hence God will not tell anyone today to go sacrifice his child, as a matter of fact animal sacrifice has been abolished in Christianity. in closing the ways of God is a mystery and no man can understand it. keep on searching you will only get more confuse. these are my sincere opinion and i so contribute.

Scholar8200:
was it insanity and/or barbarism when he expected a child from a barren, dead womb, he himself being more or less dead?(simply because God promised it)
And did he get what he expected?
Will it also be insanity if he assayed to obey that command with same expectation that God will raise the child up back again?
Answer YES or NO.
Would you honestly say this in the light of what we find in the early Church and their communities?

And those people spoke for over 700 million? Is every christian under the pope? And how many people were thus tested in the WHOLE BIBLE afterwards?

Can this be proven on the field, using the Bible and from history? As an atheist, what should be society's basis for morality?

Abraham had to choose to be blessed, his free moral agency had to play a part.

Scholar8200:
was it insanity and/or barbarism when he expected a child from a barren, dead womb, he himself being more or less dead?(simply because God promised it)
And did he get what he expected?
Will it also be insanity if he assayed to obey that command with same expectation that God will raise the child up back again?
Answer YES or NO.
Would you honestly say this in the light of what we find in the early Church and their communities?

And those people spoke for over 700 million? Is every christian under the pope? And how many people were thus tested in the WHOLE BIBLE afterwards?

Can this be proven on the field, using the Bible and from history? As an atheist, what should be society's basis for morality?

Abraham had to choose to be blessed, his free moral agency had to play a part.

Wanting to kill one's child because of voices in ur head is insanity, believing that an invisible man choose u out of every specie in d vast universe to bear a son because he has a special relationship with u is a worse form of insanity. Looking at d early christians in Europe during the time of the crusade, also when heretics were killed, etc I can confidentially say that christianity lack a basis for morality. If God decided to bless Abraham via this method, what then makes u think that all those that said God sent them to kill their children are wrong Since he is d same yesterday, today and forever.

KingEbukasBlog:

Mr . Man he was never going to kill in the first place . Stop twisting the significance of the event .




Where did I say God was testing Him or do you have impaired reasoning ? I am trying to say since God is an all knowing entity , it wasn't really a test because God knew the outcome (Cant you think?) . It was for a purpose which I have been saying here all these while .

As I said before . Somewhere in North Korea (an atheist country) , 2016 , people are being executed and fed to dogs . And in Syria , teens are being amputated /beheaded for trivial crimes . You should try reading the news to see why you should be bothered for people who have no moral compass .

CoolUsername:


Then what are we waiting for? Let's do away with that sh.it!

ValentineMary:

It seems u don't even read what u write. BTW there is something u ought to note, athism is not a religion and they lack a general mode of conduct. For the fact that some atheists are doing that in North Korea does not mean I would support them simply because I am atheist. I would call wrong wherever I see wrong, and try not to sweet coat it. My ideologies are different and I condemn those practices. But do u condemn those of Abraham?

UyiIredia:
What crap. One more instance of playing blind to the positives while harping on the negatives. In the end, the injunction to kill his son was only a test of faith which he passed. And that's why he is celebrated. For believing even when there was no good reason to.

frank317:


We wouldn't be here in the first place if you don't consistently play blind to the negatives and acts like ya all are worshipping a perfect loving God.

UyiIredia:


I will always say it. Perfection is a state of mind. You either see it or you don't. But while harping on the negatives atheists contrariwise play blind to the positives. You are guilty too mate.

KingEbukasBlog:


Mao killed , through starvation I think , millions of Chinese people who didnt adhere to his objectives as a leader . It was done as a way of purging the society of people who could hinder the progress of his mission - Great Leap Forward . Do you know an atheist (ogisaloux or sth like that ) justified this because he felt it was done for a 'good course' . But they dont care to see Abraham's as such ... just the imagine the hypocrisy.

I just dey look in 3D

UyiIredia:


I will always say it. Perfection is a state of mind. You either see it or you don't. But while harping on the negatives atheists contrariwise play blind to the positives. You are guilty too mate.

frank317:


He wouldn't condem Abraham because he is a follower of Yahweh. But will condem boko haram becasue they are followers of Allah.

An atheist kills in far away country... Dumb Ebuka actually think Frank or Johnny would quickly come here and justify it. And he feels he is making a point by repeating it. How foolish can anyone be?

Yet he fails to notice that no atheist on Nairaland has ever claimed to be perfect, neither have we justified evil acts. While he, a holy Christian is trying to tell us that Abraham trying to kill his son, is right just becasue Yaweh had a silly plan. The best way his God could lovely plan for the future which he knew was to ask his follower to show he loves him by attempting to kill, slaughter, his only son.

But the same Ebuka knows not what to do if Yahweh asks him to show him love by attempting to kill his own son. He does not also know what to do if Yahweh asks him to give money to the poor.

Silliness is getting to its peak in Nairaland.

frank317:


You have no point. Killing is wrong, weather sanctioned by your God or an atheist or a Muslim. However, you think it is right once it is sanctioned by God for whatever plan or reason.

What's ur point really? This is not a cause for argument. If an atheist kills it is wrong... But do u accept that it is wrong for your God to ask his follower to kill his son? Don't you think it is wrong for Abraham to even obey such commandment?

Scholar8200:
Oh yes I remember now! Welcome back.

sonofthunder:

thank you Sir...
i pray for more of God's wisdom upon you in Jesus name, amen

KingEbukasBlog:


Well I'm not stopping anyone . Its hightime we let the Holy Spirit dwell in us and embraced holiness and godliness as a lifestyle

CoolUsername:


Isn't the Holy Spirit just a construct from a man-made religion?

KingEbukasBlog:

No

KingEbukasBlog:


Like I said God is an embodiment of good moral standards . Then I gave this analogy :

>> It is wrong to take meat from Mum's pot without her knowledge but if she tells you to go ahead then its right <<

God Himself told Abraham to go ahead - so it has been justified . You are an atheist so you thought differently , and I understand .

How can we show it was God that truly spoke to Him .

1. The event was mentioned severally in the bible

2. It also correlated with Christ's (God Himself) life and purpose on earth .

3. Israel is a great nation with millions of people - a promise made to Abraham which was fulfilled

UyiIredia:


I will always say it. Perfection is a state of mind. You either see it or you don't. But while harping on the negatives atheists contrariwise play blind to the positives. You are guilty too mate.