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You guys should come back we will reduce MTN's fine I promise. Is just that we can't accept MTN's plan of paying $1.5 billion over 14 years. It doesn't make sense MTN should come up with something better.

Saab Grintek Defence to provide SA Navy with TactiCall communications system

Saab Grintek Defence (SGD) has been awarded a contract by Armscor (IMT - Institute Maritime Technology) for a TactiCall Integrated Communications System, which will be installed at the Navy’s Silvermine Maritime Domain Awareness Centre (MDAC) by the end of May this year.

In an announcement today, Saab Grintek Defence said that TactiCall connects different communication technologies regardless of radio band, frequency and hardware, enhancing efficiency, overview and increasing operations tempo.

“The current system being installed can be further developed into a much more advanced TactiCall solution. A more advanced system will connect personnel across all communication media, including radios (Tetra, HF, VHF and UHF) and phones, and creates a central control point for public address and general alarm (PAGA), closed-circuit TV (CCTV), video conferencing and non-directional beacons (NDB),” SGD said.

“The TactiCall system makes communication easier, more efficient and is platform-agnostic, ensuring that no vessel or station will ever be out of contact with other sites,” said Hein van den Ende, Saab Marketing Executive: Maritime for Sub-Saharan Africa at Saab. “The system integrates a multitude of different frequency bands, networks and radio equipment into one central user interface solution that makes communication easy, secure and seamless.”

The system connects all communication elements through a single IP network, creating ‘TactiCall Nets’- virtual talk groups with unlimited users to ensure efficient communication at all times. The central user interface supports a broad range of push-to-talk (PTT) and audio devices, meaning that new clients can still use their existing infrastructure.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42734:saab-grintek-defence-to-provide-sa-navy-with-tacticall-communications-system&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233

iblawi:
What's happening on this thread?

ROTFL

No gv ds SA hypertension o, u no hapy as dem de mourn d paymnt in silence. No kil dem o.

Thiza:
Saab Grintek Defence to provide SA Navy with TactiCall communications system

Saab Grintek Defence (SGD) has been awarded a contract by Armscor (IMT - Institute Maritime Technology) for a TactiCall Integrated Communications System, which will be installed at the Navy’s Silvermine Maritime Domain Awareness Centre (MDAC) by the end of May this year.

In an announcement today, Saab Grintek Defence said that TactiCall connects different communication technologies regardless of radio band, frequency and hardware, enhancing efficiency, overview and increasing operations tempo.

“The current system being installed can be further developed into a much more advanced TactiCall solution. A more advanced system will connect personnel across all communication media, including radios (Tetra, HF, VHF and UHF) and phones, and creates a central control point for public address and general alarm (PAGA), closed-circuit TV (CCTV), video conferencing and non-directional beacons (NDB),” SGD said.

“The TactiCall system makes communication easier, more efficient and is platform-agnostic, ensuring that no vessel or station will ever be out of contact with other sites,” said Hein van den Ende, Saab Marketing Executive: Maritime for Sub-Saharan Africa at Saab. “The system integrates a multitude of different frequency bands, networks and radio equipment into one central user interface solution that makes communication easy, secure and seamless.”

The system connects all communication elements through a single IP network, creating ‘TactiCall Nets’- virtual talk groups with unlimited users to ensure efficient communication at all times. The central user interface supports a broad range of push-to-talk (PTT) and audio devices, meaning that new clients can still use their existing infrastructure.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42734:saab-grintek-defence-to-provide-sa-navy-with-tacticall-communications-system&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233

kai, wil u sharrap ther. Na nw u get mouth to open. Shege.

iblawi:
You guys should come back we will reduce MTN's fine I promise. Is just that we can't accept MTN's plan of paying $1.5 billion over 14 years. It doesn't make sense MTN should come up with something better.

South Africans ran away from here, too much disgrace for them to bear, president Jacob Zuma kneeling down in Abuja to beg Nigeria for mercy while MTN runs around different banks to loan them money to pay us $3.9 billion....LOL South Africa will borrow billions of dollars to pay Nigeria free money we did not even work for....Nigeria is busy räping South Africa financally, this is sweet economic räpe o ! South Africa is bleeding to death o !
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agaugust:


South Africans ran away from here, too much disgrace for them to bear, president Jacob Zuma kneeling down in Abuja to beg Nigeria for mercy while MTN runs around different banks to loan them money to pay us $3.9 billion....LOL South Africa will borrow billions of dollars to pay Nigeria free money we did not even work for....Nigeria is busy räping South Africa financally, this is sweet economic räpe o ! South Africa is bleeding to death o !
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Lol...

This week South Africa's President Jacob Zuma visited Nigeria and stressed that Africa's two economic giants could work together. Relations have been fraught, not helped by South African deaths in a Nigerian pastor's building and a $5bn Nigerian fine for a South African phone company.

Here, two writers take a tongue-in-cheek look at how the nations see each other.

How us South Africans view Nigerians

Milton Nkosi, Johannesburg
The view of Nigerians by South Africans can be described as a form of sibling rivalry, at best.


South Africans generally see Nigerians as having a chip on their shoulder along with an over-confidence tinged with a bit of arrogance.

Each time there's a so-called 419 email scam involving strangers offering millions of dollars in exchange for banking details, locals here tend to blame it on the Nigerians.

That's even if there is no evidence of which country the scam originates from.

Stereotypically, problems such as organised crime - including drug lords and prostitution rings - are seen as a Nigerian import.

Newspapers were very critical of Nigeria when a church building collapsed in Lagos two years ago killing 106 people - 81 of them were South African.


Authorities in the capital Pretoria complained that the bodies were not repatriated quickly enough.

The current deadlock between South African telecoms giant company MTN and Nigerian authorities about the $5bn (£3.5bn) fine imposed by Nigeria sits comfortably amongst many other squabbles.

I think South Africans have never honestly accepted being leap-frogged by Nigeria to the number one spot as Africa's largest economy .

Until 2014 South Africa had always held the number one position.

So it came as some sort of relief to locals here, when data was released saying Johannesburg had more than twice as many dollar millionaires as Lagos.

The xenophobic attacks last year did not help the situation, even though no Nigerians who attacked specifically because of their nationality.

Nigeria recalled two diplomats after a row about visa restrictions, although both capitals denied that was the reason.
Sometimes it deteriorates to a level of frivolous accusations that Nigerian men who come into the country with the financial strength of hard currency take South African women from the local boys.

How us Nigerians view South Africans
Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani, Abuja
To many Nigerians, South Africa is the closest to the West that you can find on the African continent.

The country's shops could be mistaken for those found on Oxford Street in London.
Its roads are smooth and wide.
And its climate gives your complexion that peculiar glow which lets everyone back home know, without your having to boast, that you have just returned from abroad.
All this makes South Africa the holiday destination of choice for many Nigerians whenever an American or British visa is proving too hard to get.


And so, it is with sadness that Nigeria watches as South Africa regresses in ways that were previously associated with other African countries, such as frequent electricity outages.

If they succeed in ruining their country, where else in Africa shall we seek a similar haven whenever the West doesn't want us?
Although, to be honest, our sadness is tinged with a good dose of schadenfreude.
Nigerians feel that South Africans hate us, even if their hatred is of a paradoxical kind.
They hate us for our "swagger", our ability to command instant attention by hook or crook.


They hate us for being the walking, living proof that colour of skin is not a sufficient deterrent to economic success in post-apartheid South Africa.

They hate us for our smartness and sharpness, which sometimes leads to the swiping of a few hundred thousand rand.
On the other hand, they love our musicians and Nollywood actresses and pastors.
And their women keep getting swept off their feet by our men.

Nigerians feel that many South Africans would rather we were tipped off the edge of the continent, leaving them to take the stage as Africa's one and only beautiful bride.

But, like wise co-wives in polygamous arrangements all over the world, Nigerians know that we must learn to live with them.
After all, there is more than enough space in Africa for the two countries and their peoples to shine.


Who wins the numbers game?

Biggest economy : Nigeria wins, with a GDP of $568.5bn in 2014 compared to $350.1bn in South Africa

Most millionaires in one city: South Africa wins with 23,400 in Johannesburg, compared to 9,100 in Lagos

Most people: Nigeria wins by quite a bit with 177.5 million people compared to 54 million in South Africa

Most educated: All South Africans go to primary school compared to 85% of Nigerians

Longest lives: South Africans live longer, with a life expectancy of 57 years compared to 52 for Nigerians


Sources: World Bank, AfrAsia Bank


www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35763121


COMMENTS ABOUT NIGERIANS REGARDING SOUTH AFRICA
https://www.nairaland.com/2987796/nigeria-v-south-africa-battle

Nigerians have rejected the Federal Government’s apology for the deplorable supply of electricity and fuel across the country.

A consistent decline in the nation’s electricity supply has led to a blackout nationwide, causing Nigerians huge economic hardship in their efforts to provide electricity and water to their homes.

The Federal Government had on Friday apologised to Nigerians for the blackout and the inherent hardship it had caused them.

The Minister of Information and Culture, Mr. Lai Mohammed, in a statement on Friday, had said all efforts were being made to rectify the situation and ensure a gradual improvement in the power situation.

According to Mohammed, a combination of different incidents, including gas shortage, vandalism, sabotage, protests by power and petroleum workers, are responsible for crashing the power supply.

Mohammed said, “Due to these factors, only 13 of the 24 power stations in the country are currently functioning. It is this same kind of unsavoury situation that has affected fuel supply and subjected Nigerians to untold hardship.

“We admonish all Nigerians who may be agitating for their rights in whatever form to refrain from any action that will further hurt the same people they claim to be protecting.”

But several Nigerians rejected the apology on Saturday, while they lamented the economic challenges experienced daily.

In a telephone interview with SUNDAY PUNCH, a former Governor of the old Kaduna State, Alhaji Balarabe Musa, said, “Nigerians don’t accept apologies under such circumstances. We want action and solution and if we can have this problem of fuel scarcity at a time when the executive President (Muhammadu Buhari) is the Minister of Petroleum Resources, then, it means we can expect the worst on the economy and a whole country.

“This whole thing is under the President and yet we have this crisis. It is a serious implication, which means we can experience worse in other sectors of the economy, if the president is not directly in control of the ministers and other top officials.

“We want reasons why this should continue, especially while the President is the minister for oil.”

A Niger Delta activist, Ms. Annkio Briggs, also stated that apologies given when one is genuinely sorry over an issue.

Briggs told one of our correspondents that when an apology is given, it gives an indication that things are going to get better and the reason for the apology will not happen again.

She added, “But does that mean we are going to get better power supply? Today, I got fuel for about N160 per litre; not at the black market but at the filling station, and the government said we are to buy it for about N87.

“People are buying fuel for over N100 per litre to have fuel in their vehicles and light in their homes. We need fuel to give ourselves light. The question here is, what is the apology supposed to do to Nigerians? Is the apology to stabilise the price of petrol back to what it used to be? Are we going to have constant electricity?

“The solution is to find a way to solve the situation and not about an apology that won’t bring about change to the country. Meanwhile, there’s no use for the apology if we don’t have power supply; if the price of fuel is not back to the normal price.”

Also, the Chairman of the Nigerian Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative, Mr. Ledun Mitee, in a separate interview, described Federal Government’s apology as a publicity strategy.

He said, “It is good public relations for them to say they apologise but are those explanations plausible? I do not readily buy into accusations directed towards crime as the reason for fuel scarcity, instability of fuel price and lack of constant power supply.

“I do not value the explanations; if there are issues we should know, it should be brought out for public discussion, rather than be blamed on things like vandalism. It’s not a matter of apology, what Nigerians want is delivery on power supply to turn the economy around. This issue affects all people.”

He added that the level of economic downturn in the country was on the increase and that something should be done immediately after the apology to help Nigerians fight the issue of blackout

Several Nigerians also rejected the apology on PUNCH’s social media platforms. On PUNCH’s Facebook page, Bobby Brown said, “Nigerians do not accept your apology. You’ve failed the nation.”

Omisore Kunle also said, “I have always said these government people are not sincere with us any longer! There is no petrol to operate our generators and still no electricity. God help us!”

Similarly, Mobola Adesola said, “After 50 years that is the best that they can come up with? Come on!”

Olugbenga Oyesanmi also said, “When will this blame game stop? Every infraction since Buhari resumed office has been blamed on someone else (a boogeyman). The buck stops at his desk. I overwhelmingly supported Buhari. However, this is looking more like ‘a bridge to nowhere.’”

In her submission, Abiola Kahdijat said, “When GEJ (former President Goodluck Jonathan) said this, they called him clueless and boasted that they would do differently, but the situation is even far worse under the All Progressives Congress-led government.

“Since the APC government has continued to deny all its electoral promises, all we ask from them is to maintain the little infrastructure they met on ground. But it seems that’s also an impossible task for the government.”

Another Nigerian, Peterson Nzube, also stated that electricity supply was better under Jonathan, despite the threat posed by vandals.

“APC, you had solutions to all Nigeria’s problem, while you were not in power. Now that you’re in power, you have no single idea again. In less than a year of your regime, you cannot even maintain the megawatts you met, let alone increase it. Rather, it depreciated by 1,000MW. God save Nigeria,” Nzube added.

According to Samuel Bello, it is only in Nigeria that government knows all the problems facing the country but has no solution.

“These were the same stories we heard before the sales of the electricity companies to themselves. Now it has changed from bad to worse. It exhibits the ignorance and ineptitude of those in power. Nigerians have yet to see anybody arraigned in courts of law for sabotage, so, please sing another song. We are tired of excuses; fix it!” Bello said.

Similarly, Bello Eshiofune, asked the Federal Government to swing into action and stop giving excuses.

On PUNCH’s website, Clippers12 said, “So the apology means to sit back do no action? Instead of wasting money on government cars, let’s import solar panels for those who need it, then build from there; at least, start somewhere or do something and not shout ‘we are sorry.’”

Another contributor, Trouble, said, “Excuses, excuses and more excuses. When will Nigerians ever enjoy the God given resources with peace and joy? At every turn, it is just worries and woes for us. Maybe we should change our name. The suffering is too much.”

Earth Voice said, “That is what we get, 50 years sold oil yet no steady electricity in a country. Other countries of the world ruled by military men are far better than Nigeria; at least, they have steady electricity.”

The Yoruba socio-political group, Afenifere, also berated the government for its inability to fix the power problem.

The National Publicity Secretary of Afenifere, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, said, “Apology is good but it won’t power the homes. We need to see concrete steps being taken to increase power generation and distribution in our country. We should not be asked to pay more for darkness like the power ministry has done lately.”

Despite the decision by the Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN), to increase electricity tariff by 45 per cent from February 1, 2016, Nigerians have remained in darkness.

The situation had been worsened by fuel scarcity and price hikes nationwide.

The nation achieved its peak generation of 5,074.70MW on February 2, when 4,541.85MW was generated and 4,447.88MW was sent out. But a partial system collapse on Tuesday, in addition to the continuous drop in electricity generation owing to vandalism of pipelines that supply gas to the power plants, led to the highly pronounced power failures across the country.

As a result, power generation dropped to 1,580.6 megawatts as of Wednesday.

The partial system collapse that occurred on Tuesday reportedly happened at the Shiroro Power Plant and dragged down electricity generation to as low as 1,233.4MW from a peak of 3,207.7MW recorded on the same day.

The drop in generation caused severe reduction in load allocation from the national grid to the distribution firms.

Alternative power sources become costlier

SUNDAY PUNCH gathered that the prices of alternative means of electricity had increased.

The price of Tiger generators, popularly referred to as ‘I better pass my neighbour’ generators, which is the smallest in the range of petrol-powered generators, has increased from about N15,000 to about N25,000 in the last one month.

The Elepaq generator, which is next in terms capacity, has also gone from N35,000 to N68,000 since February. Another category of generators, which used to cost N59,000, now goes for N80,000.

It was also learnt that the cost of diesel-powered generators had increased over the past one month. The retail price of 20KVA generators increased from N1.25m to N2.4m; 60KVA, N2.5m to N3.4m; and 500KVA, N11m to 14.4m.

Before, a carton of candle was N6,200. Now it is N8,000. In some parts of Lagos, a 25-litre keg of water, which used to cost N10, now costs N30. It is worse in some parts of Ikeja where the price of a 20-litre gallon has increase by 100 per cent, from N25 to N50.

It was also learnt that a middle-sized torchlight which used to cost N90 is now N160.

‘Nigerians likely to face more blackouts’

Indications have emerged that the blackout being experienced across the country may not end soon, as electricity power generation from gas-fired and hydro plants are increasingly threatened.

It remains unclear when repair works would be completed on the Escravos-Lagos Pipeline System and the Forcados export terminal, as the continued shut-down of the facilities affect affect gas supply to power plants.

A platform on the ELPS was recently sabotaged, while a pipeline leak on Forcados export terminal forced Shell Petroleum Development Company of Nigeria Limitked to halt production into the terminal in February.

It was recently reported that it was likely to take until early April before the pipeline is repaired and oil production and flow to the export terminal resumed.

An energy expert and Technical Director, Drilling Services, Template Design Limited, Mr. Bala Zakka, in a telephone interview with our correspondent on Saturday, said, “We are foreseeing a likely energy crisis in the country,” considering the imminent fall in power generation from hydro power plants.

“We are going to have issues with gas supply. The Escravos pipeline has been tampered with. Definitely, most of the thermal power plants that are being supplied gas through that pipeline are likely to be affected. So, there will be supply issue for the next one month or slightly more than that.”

Noting that it had been forecasted that rainfall may be low this year, Zakka said, “That means the quantum of electricity we normally get from the combination of Shiroro, Jebba and Kainji dams will be very low, and that means we have to rely seriously on the thermal stations.

“So, there is a need for us to do something about supplying gas to the generation companies, and a need for proper regulation so that the distribution companies can effectively distribute.”

“The shortage of power supply has led to a high demand for petrol and diesel by households and businesses, and this is not supposed to be so.”

The Special Adviser on Gas to the immediate past Minister of Power, Mr. Frank Edozie, described the current state of power supply in the country as bad and unfortunate.

“The start of it was the gas facility that was blown on the Escravos-Lagos Pipeline System, and then the closure of the Forcados export pipeline that resulted to condensate build-up, which meant a number of gas producers had to shut in,” he said.

Edozie added that he expected an improvement in gas supply to power plants in coming days following the suspension of the strike “until the Forcados pipeline is repaired, and then the ELPS, which will take a little time to repair.”

The Chief Executive Officer, Transcorp Ughelli Power Limited, one of the generation companies in the country, Mr. Adeoye Fadeyibi, told our correspondent that “gas supply continues to be a major constraint.”

“We are having issues because of the pressure of the line for NGC (Nigerian Gas Company); they are not building up enough pressure for us to run our plant. So, that’s the problem we are having.

“We are engaging the gas suppliers to make sure we able to get the gas. They are responding and we are hoping that we can come to some solution quickly.”

An energy law and policy expert/Senior Associate at Lagos-based law firm, Banwo & Ighodalo, Mr. Ayodele Oni, also noted that the strike by electricity workers in connection with the termination of the contract of employment of some staff of Ikeja Electricity Distribution plc and the sabotage by some workers had affected power supply in Lagos.

“There has also been the vandalism of some gas and some other power sector installations. Repairs are now being undertaken and supply should improve soon,” he said.

The Special Assistant, Media to the Minister of Information and Culture, Mr. Segun Adeyemi, however said Nigerians would expect an improvement in power supply this week.

He said, “Power generation is expected to inch towards a 4,000MW mark and then rise to 5074MW.”

http://www.punchng.com/blackout-nigerians-reject-buharis-apology/

http://www.rdm.co.za/sport/2016/03/16/fifa-states-that-sa-paid-10m-bribe-to-secure-world-cup-bid


Fifa has outlined how it believes South Africa paid a $10-million bribe in exchange for votes to secure the right to host the 2010 World Cup.In a court submission demanding restitution under US law for a range of fraudulent acts, Fifa has outlined how it believes South Africa paid the money."Defendant [Jack] Warner and his family had already established close ties to South Africa during South Africa’s failed bid to host the 2006 Fifa World Cup. For example, Daryan Warner had organised a series of friendly matches among Concacaf teams to be played in South Africa, relying on his father’s network of contacts there."The claim goes on to state that Daryan Warner "served as his father’s bagman, traveling to a hotel in Paris, France to receive a briefcase with $10 000 in cash from a high-ranking South African bid committee official and immediately returning to Trinidad and Tobago to give it to Defendant Warner."Describing Warner as having "strong illicit ties to the South African bid committee", Fifa states categorically for the first time that "the South Africans offered a more attractive bribe of $10-million in exchange for Warner’s, Blazer’s, and a third Executive Committee member's votes."Fifa say: "Warner and his coconspirators lied to Fifa about the nature of the payment, disguising it as support for the benefit of the “African Diaspora” in the Caribbean region, when in reality it was a bribe.""They disguised and funneled the bribe money through the financial accounts of Fifa, member associations, and the 2010 Fifa World Cup local organizing committee. At the time of the scheme, Warner was a member of the Fifa Executive Committee, a Fifa vice president, and the president of both Concacaf and the Caribbean Football Union (“CFU”), which had 31 member associations in its ranks. Blazer was also a member of Fifa’s Executive Committee, at times a member of FIFA’s marketing and television committees, and the general secretary of Concacaf. They breached the fundamental duties they owed to Fifa, CFU, and Concacaf and stole $10-million."

Evidence proves that the $10 million was awarded to the CONCAF to assist with diaspora projects. if you think its bribe, fine but you have to prove it. Jack Warner decided to help himself to the donation...which South Africa offered in good gesture. Atleast the money never went to South African officials pockets as it is the case with Nigeria.

Even if it was a bribe atleast, it was good bribe as Africa benefitted.

JOINT SPECIAL FORCES EXERCISE IN SEA BORNE BETWEEN BRAZIL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES

JOINT SPECIAL FORCES EXERCISE IN SEA BORNE BETWEEN BRAZIL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES

JOINT SPECIAL FORCES EXERCISE IN SEA BORNE BETWEEN BRAZIL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES

wazi ukuthi kukhona base Nigeria, akufanele yini sibe nesikhathi laba bantu.

nawao! E b lik say ds fine against MTN is takn a big bite on SAs on ds thread o. So tey pple lik thiza, patches(lying CROA), ETC do not have money again to buy data.
Ok, ok mak una com bk i go gv una som naira mak una use buy data. Whch kin poverty de worry SAs lik ds.

DonBobes:
nawao! E b lik say ds fine against MTN is takn a big bite on SAs on ds thread o. So tey pple lik thiza, patches(lying CROA), ETC do not have money again to buy data.
Ok, ok mak una com bk i go gv una som naira mak una use buy data. Whch kin poverty de worry SAs lik ds.

[size=13pt] What Nigerian did to South African MTN in business show of who-is-boss, if the final proof of what Nigeria will do to South African military forces in war, we will show them who-is-boss on the battlefield. NA will roast SANDF.

Nigeria is master over South Africa in anything involving power tussle !
.[/size]

agaugust:


[size=13pt] What Nigerian did to South African MTN in business show of who-is-boss, if the final proof of what Nigeria will do to South African military forces in war, we will show them who-is-boss on the battlefield. NA will roast SANDF.

Nigeria is master over South Africa in anything involving power tussle !
.[/size]

Again, the fine has not been paid and you've done nothing about that. Thanks.

DieVluit:


Again, the fine has not been paid and you've done nothing about that. Thanks.

eida nw or later. MTN's SA wil stil pay!

JOINT SPECIAL FORCES EXERCISE IN SEA BORNE BETWEEN BRAZIL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES

JOINT SPECIAL FORCES EXERCISE IN SEA BORNE BETWEEN BRAZIL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES

DieVluit:


Again, the fine has not been paid and you've done nothing about that. Thanks.

What of the $250 million cash first instalment paid? You started playing ïdiot and lying again, same ïdiocy and lying that put your MTN into trap of billion dollar fine, you never learn your lessons, that's why South Africa falls into same pit again and again like a brainless ïdiot.

http://metropolexpress.com/news/item/6245-ncc-confirms-mtn-has-paid-250million

DonBobes:


eida nw or later. MTN's SA wil stil pay!

Dont mind that ïdiot DeVluit, MTN has started instalmental payment with $250 million, next instalment is $650 million and they are running around like a rabbit pursued by a hunter to raise the money.

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South African army CANNOT drive any vehicle

Wrecks expensive Olifant tank !

Dullards of SANDF cannot fight real war, they cannot even drive their own vehicles at home in peacetime on a decent easy highway, so what will happen when an enemy is pursuing them on a battlefield off-road? Dullard army of Africa
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agaugust:
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South African army CANNOT drive any vehicle

Dullards of SANDF cannot fight real war, they cannot even drive their own vehicles at home in peacetime on a decent easy highway, so what will happen when an enemy is pursuing them on a battlefield off-road? Dullard army of Africa
. [/size]

You do realize the tank was on a truck right?

jln115:

You do realize the tank was on a truck right?

You do realize it was an SANDF truck driven by an SANDF driver from your army of dullards?
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agaugust:


You do realize it was an SANDF truck driven by an SANDF driver from your army of dullards?
.

And? What has 1 truck driver have to do with the combat capability of the entire SANDF?? Also do you know the reasons that caused the accident?

iblawi:
http://www.rdm.co.za/sport/2016/03/16/fifa-states-that-sa-paid-10m-bribe-to-secure-world-cup-bid


Fifa has outlined how it believes South Africa paid a $10-million bribe in exchange for votes to secure the right to host the 2010 World Cup.In a court submission demanding restitution under US law for a range of fraudulent acts, Fifa has outlined how it believes South Africa paid the money."Defendant [Jack] Warner and his family had already established close ties to South Africa during South Africa’s failed bid to host the 2006 Fifa World Cup. For example, Daryan Warner had organised a series of friendly matches among Concacaf teams to be played in South Africa, relying on his father’s network of contacts there."The claim goes on to state that Daryan Warner "served as his father’s bagman, traveling to a hotel in Paris, France to receive a briefcase with $10 000 in cash from a high-ranking South African bid committee official and immediately returning to Trinidad and Tobago to give it to Defendant Warner."Describing Warner as having "strong illicit ties to the South African bid committee", Fifa states categorically for the first time that "the South Africans offered a more attractive bribe of $10-million in exchange for Warner’s, Blazer’s, and a third Executive Committee member's votes."Fifa say: "Warner and his coconspirators lied to Fifa about the nature of the payment, disguising it as support for the benefit of the “African Diaspora” in the Caribbean region, when in reality it was a bribe.""They disguised and funneled the bribe money through the financial accounts of Fifa, member associations, and the 2010 Fifa World Cup local organizing committee. At the time of the scheme, Warner was a member of the Fifa Executive Committee, a Fifa vice president, and the president of both Concacaf and the Caribbean Football Union (“CFU”), which had 31 member associations in its ranks. Blazer was also a member of Fifa’s Executive Committee, at times a member of FIFA’s marketing and television committees, and the general secretary of Concacaf. They breached the fundamental duties they owed to Fifa, CFU, and Concacaf and stole $10-million." 

Don't you think it came too little too late. It's six years now since we last hosted the world cup and the fact is we hosted it. I have even went to watch games so it won't help to cry over a spilled milk.

agaugust:
[size=13pt]

South African army CANNOT drive any vehicle

Wrecks expensive Olifant tank !

Dullards of SANDF cannot fight real war, they cannot even drive their own vehicles at home in peacetime on a decent easy highway, so what will happen when an enemy is pursuing them on a battlefield off-road? Dullard army of Africa
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I cannot believe that Agaugust still argues like a child. Accidents are called accidents because they happen anyway when it is least expected.

jln115:

And? What has 1 truck driver have to do with the combat capability of the entire SANDF?? Also do you know the reasons that caused the accident?

And? What about the regular driving and crashing of Ratel IFVs killing SANDF soldiers at home without war starting yet?

Your army cannot drive its armoured vehicles or trucks at home, same way you cannot maintain them until Cuban army mechanics came to your rescue. Your army engineers cannot rig-fasten a tank securely on a truck.

SANDF air defence guns, your army cannot operate safely, your anti-aircraft guns lose control and massacre Southie soldiers.

South African army CANNOT move armoured vehicles from point A to point B in peacetime, you will be worse in a war situation.

SANDF is incmpetent, your army chief was in Abuja stylishly begging Nigeria for military training exchange programmes, he wants Nigerian army to teach South African army :

1. How special forces can kill 3 Shekaus in 3 years, both the original Shekau and his clones.

2. How to defeat terrorists and crush an insurgency.

3. How to do German Army style Blitzkreig and liberate 45 towns in 45 days on a battle space bigger than Belgium, creating 45 new grave-yards full of enemy dead bodies.

4. How to deploy a full size army of infantry + armour + artillery combined composite forces, with African Napoleon class officers in command and not the meagre brigade level that SANDF is limited to for the past 70 years.

5. How to reduce terrorists fighting force from about 40,000 armed insurgents to about 2,000 in 12 months by inflicting heavy battle casualties on the enemy.

6. How to set up army air aviation wing of armed helicopters flown by army pilots.

7. How to drive over 1,000 armoured vehicles around a whole country without sommersaulting in broad daylight....

Why are you guys bothering with this troll?

He is sitting here telling us the SANDF cannot fight because a truck lost its load.

Meanwhile, rag tag militia in toyota bakkies pushed the whole 20 000 men of NA out of 45 towns and cities and carved out an empire the size of Belgium, despite the NA having artillery/IFV's/MRLS/MBT's/LAV's/Attack helicopters/fighter aircraft... and Nigeria was only able to take them back with the help of South African Mercenaries, Cameroun and Chad.

The same military that has 50% of its fleet NON-OPERATIONAL, sailors who cannot swim, only had 7 aircraft operational, useless Radar, only 60 rounds of ammunition per man (40 year old ammunition at that), men who have to buy their own uniforms/food/medical supplies, mass desertions, mass war-crimes and an ENTIRE BATTALION that defected to Cameroun

And a defence industry who's biggest boast is the Igiriri... a LICENCE PRODUCTION of an Streit MRAP

This thread has been over for a long, long time.