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Serenity008:
You must try to differentiate Christianity from religion.

Jesus while on earth never associated it with religion.

Christianity is an exercise of power. Displaying God almightiness here on earth.

That there are fake paracetamol doesn't mean there ain't good ones out there


The fact that there are aberration in Christendom is an evident of its autencity

Aberration is an understatement.

Serenity008:
Sweety, did you just call Him. I know you love him, maybe you trying to experience something else.

My intention of meeting you is to have an opportunity to meet someone with a different view from what I believed.

Moreover, is gonna be in an open place. Nothing to fear. Still expecting your positive reply

People call his name at just about anytime/thing, when having sex, when they see a roach or ant, when a cup falls off their hands, etc. The name is just way too common, (the price we pay for indoctrination), although I called it on purpose, doesn't have to mean sh1t.

As much as I'd like to grant your wish, I'm really sorry I can't, I can't afford the luxury of going to meet someone because we "believe" something different, no vex abeg.

I no dey fear my dear, I no be jjc na, I suppose know how to protect myself, no be today na.

Weah96:
A dead man appeared before bronze age Jews and then flew up into the sky and vanished. Call me crazy if you like, but I don't believe it.

You better have something to show me, or be willing to demonstrate some magical abilities he bestowed on you.

Open your eyes and heart.

Question: "Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ?"

Answer: Typically, when this question is asked, the person asking qualifies the question with “outside of the Bible.” We do not grant this idea that the Bible cannot be considered a source of evidence for the existence of Jesus. The New Testament contains hundreds of references to Jesus Christ. There are those who date the writing of the Gospels to the second century A.D., more than 100 years after Jesus' death. Even if this were the case (which we strongly dispute), in terms of ancient evidences, writings less than 200 years after events took place are considered very reliable evidences. Further, the vast majority of scholars (Christian and non-Christian) will grant that the Epistles of Paul (at least some of them) were in fact written by Paul in the middle of the first century A.D., less than 40 years after Jesus' death. In terms of ancient manuscript evidence, this is extraordinarily strong proof of the existence of a man named Jesus in Israel in the early first century A.D.

It is also important to recognize that in A.D. 70, the Romans invaded and destroyed Jerusalem and most of Israel, slaughtering its inhabitants. Entire cities were literally burned to the ground. We should not be surprised, then, if much evidence of Jesus' existence was destroyed. Many of the eyewitnesses of Jesus would have been killed. These facts likely limited the amount of surviving eyewitness testimony of Jesus.

Considering that Jesus' ministry was largely confined to a relatively unimportant area in a small corner of the Roman Empire, a surprising amount of information about Jesus can be drawn from secular historical sources. Some of the more important historical evidences of Jesus include the following:

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious “Christians” (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44).

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.” One version reads, “At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.”

Julius Africanus quotes the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18).

Pliny the Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very ethical, and he includes a reference to the love feast and Lord’s Supper.

The Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of Passover and the accusations against Christ of practicing sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.

Lucian of Samosata was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them. He said that Jesus' teachings included the brotherhood of believers, the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods. Christians lived according to Jesus’ laws, believed themselves to be immortal, and were characterized by contempt for death, voluntary self-devotion, and renunciation of material goods.

Mara Bar-Serapion confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the Jews, and lived on in the teachings of His followers.

Then we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that all mention Jesus.

In fact, we can almost reconstruct the gospel just from early non-Christian sources: Jesus was called the Christ (Josephus), did “magic,” led Israel into new teachings, and was hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers believed, worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).

There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, both in secular and biblical history. Perhaps the greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the twelve apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ. People will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die for what they know to be a lie.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html

Serenity008:
Lol babe.
Yiu going far. Just wanna have a one one discus with you. Who knows, u may give me a reason to join you in your belive

We can discuss here, I'm not looking to convert anyone btw, as atheism is not even a belief system. If anything, all I want is that people start using their heads to reason.

Weah96:
A dead man appeared before bronze age Jews and then flew up into the sky and vanished. Call me crazy if you like, but I don't believe it.

You better have something to show me, or be willing to demonstrate some magical abilities he bestowed on you.

Ain't you funny bro.
Magical abilities.
In Christianity, there is nothing like magic. We display power

And if the wave of pentecostal revival across the country and world is not enough evidence for you, then I leave to my helper the Holy spirit to help you.

Note. Don't tell me about the fake preachers in town, they are all aberration

Weah96:
A dead man appeared before bronze age Jews and then flew up into the sky and vanished. Call me crazy if you like, but I don't believe it.

You better have something to show me, or be willing to demonstrate some magical abilities he bestowed on you.

Ain't you funny bro.
Magical abilities.
In Christianity, there is nothing like magic. We display power

And if the wave of pentecostal revival across the country and world is not enough evidence for you, then I leave u to my helper the Holy spirit to help you.

Note. Don't tell me about the fake preachers in town, they are all aberration

Weah96:
A dead man appeared before bronze age Jews and then flew up into the sky and vanished. Call me crazy if you like, but I don't believe it.

You better have something to show me, or be willing to demonstrate some magical abilities he bestowed on you.

It's supernatural not magic

Richirich713:
It's supernatural not magic

Explain the difference

Serenity008:
Ain't you funny bro.
Magical abilities.
In Christianity, there is nothing like magic. We display power

And if the wave of pentecostal revival across the country and world is not enough evidence for you, then I leave u to my helper the Holy spirit to help you.

Note. Don't tell me about the fake preachers in town, they are all aberration

So you were able to find customers who were willing to believe the story. Big deal. Even Mohammed found customers, over a billion people who believe that his rice and stew spoke to him one day as he was preparing to eat. I don't believe it either.

So oya, leave it to the holy spirit. In fact, it is the very magic that I've been asking for.

lepasharon:
Explain the difference

Definitions of magic differ from dictionary to dictionary, some dictionaries called Jesus miracles magic while some don't.

Therefore the more accurate word to describe Jesus is supernatural.

freecocoa:
We can discuss here, I'm not looking to convert anyone btw, as atheism is not even a belief system. If anything, all I want is that people start using their heads to reason.

That's okay.

Shalom

lepasharon:
Nl is OK for now

Hiya.

Did you remove your profile pic because I was 'stalking' you?