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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by nworanco(m): 5:53pm On Apr 14, 2016
tbaba1234:


This is not what NOI blamed. There was no political will. OBJ faced similar pressure. With a strong political will, you can do a lot of things as president to save.
Is it by infridgement of law? Remember it took time before the judgement were delivered , and during that time NOI were regularly having meetings and lobbying with those State commissioners on several occasions, but due to they were just messengers from State governors, There pay masters (The governors) refused to adhere to the advices/instructions from a world financial management expert, due to corrupt tendercies from those governors.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by nightmile: 5:55pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

OBJ had the strength of being a two term president. Also, his political power had been increased by his supposed conquest of the western region. Goodluck on the other hand, was a VP turned President: Read the history of Lyndon.B .Johnson, Gerald Ford and also George Bush.Snr. President Jonathan did not have the political might of OBJ, and also time will tell if GEJ was the smarter one. Machiavelli died in poverty, but the legacy of his ideology is still being studied today, because he had an idea. Goodluck had an idea, and so, posterity will show if he was indeed clueless or not
What idea please?

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by ChikezieU(m): 5:56pm On Apr 14, 2016
jojomario:
Even a member of a past government blaming the former boss. It shows how clueless the the former president was to see beyond the present.
you are the clueless one, did he proposed for the money to be saved or not? Which people opposed it?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by gifsCEC: 6:00pm On Apr 14, 2016
ChikezieU:
you are the clueless one, did he proposed for the money to be saved or not? Which people opposed it?

Was there no opposition to savings during obasanjo's time? How come they saved?

Soludo said political will and character.

Now NOI has come out also to confess political will.

Whom should we believe? Soludo and NOI or Anonymous you?

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:03pm On Apr 14, 2016
AntiWailer:
Finally Bubu vindicated

Wailers can scream

Okonjo knew what they were doing was not sustainable.

She screamed in 2014

--Brace for tougher times ahead :
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

--They borrowed money to pay salary
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/182543-nigerian-govt-borrowing-billions-to-pay-salaries-okonjo-iweala.html


Wailers know all these but when you mix tribal sentiment + political sentiment + religious sentiment , Brain disappears and you sit on Time Bomb.

To say they call people Zombie is very laughable because inability to use ones brain because of loyalty describes wailers better than anybody. They are the real ZOMBIE



One question for those blaming Governors for GEJ's failures "

How did we save Under Obasanjo ? You can't compare a leader with a vision and a visionless Leader. This is why IStandWithAnybodyButJonathan. Wailers can fill their burial form. I don't care.


"Jonathan only reigned he did not rule and was not in charge"
Obasanjo
U are the true son of ur father.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by shaqhead: 6:03pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

Obama is currently being denied his right to nominate and confirm a supreme court judge, by the Republican congress. Will you hold Obama responsible for that. Remember the President was forced by a judgement from a federal high court to release the funds.
Son, all this semantic rigmarole is all hooey!

This your analogy has no bearing on this matter because if the governors ddnt want to continue saving they wd have opted out from the beginning but they did until....

Please tell me am wrong to the following questions:

Did the governors go to court to stop the savings in the beginning? NO!
I guess you know their adduced reason for takin that decision!

Did the governors stop the Executive arm from saving its own share of the ECA saavings? NO! ( So u kno d govs only had a 30% stake)

Are the governors responsible for the depletion of our foreign reserves? NO!

Her words are as clear as day.....she mentioned OBJ admin and compared it with the last admin where i know that Amaechi wasnt the president and if you keep pushing the Amaechi stale gibberish, you only indict your hero as nothing less than the various epithets he has been called in different fora!

You can lie to yourself all you like, jst as u- a male claimed to b "female maupe" of channels but this glaring facts you cant deny!

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by maupe: 6:04pm On Apr 14, 2016
nightmile:

What idea please?
Economic liberalism and political sportsmanship
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:06pm On Apr 14, 2016
Blitz888:
This is no news...it's rather unfortunate that this is coming from the coordinating minister of the economy in the same regime she is taking a swipe at.
She should spare us this belated advice... Who she epp
Is for the blind wailers placing the blames of the present economic woes at the door steps of the present administration.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:08pm On Apr 14, 2016
Dee60:

Thanks for saying the truth! Honest Nigerians know what the problem is and where it started.

They lacked the will to save but they had strong will to share..... The throat was too long. They saved it all in their personal pockets and are using their loot to try to destablize the country now. They wont succeed!
By the special grace of the One and only God

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:10pm On Apr 14, 2016
Joshuahunpe:
see her yeye mouth!
But she has said the gospel truth.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Esperooke(m): 6:11pm On Apr 14, 2016
[quote author=boujaye post=44700197]f NOI truly said so, then she is right. Amaechi and co, never wanted the Excess Crude Oil reserved to be saved, they will go to court and be over ruled "share the money". Today everybody suffers the repercussion.[/quote
What a bitter pill..... Typical Wailer in action, trying to parry the blame to Amaechi who was just a governor then while leaving out the clueless GEJ.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by nworanco(m): 6:12pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Her statement said..

the persons behind these allegations acted as if the constitutionally recognized FAAC


This has nothing to do with GEJ. She lied with their name.
They replied.

The committee, in a statement issued on its behalf by
Forum of Finance Commissioners in Abuja, stated that
the law setting it up did not give it the power to approve
withdrawals from the ECA.


So, there was a clear lie and not that GEJ said and Finance Commissioners said.

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala broke the trust and the will.
The presiding officer during the meeting were the president (jeg) and he gave accent to the outcome of the faac meeting, whoever that was there agreed to issued discussed there.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:13pm On Apr 14, 2016
folks4luv:
from d few comments I've read on this topic n from d ones I've seen from other threads, I can conclude that sentimentalism has so much beclouded d reasoning of most people that comments on political issue, so much that many either do not read d article or even understanding it before commenting. n its a pity. Nigerian youth are tactless, reason yesteryears leaders will still rule us even till tomorrow. and it doesn't matter...either ur a wailer or a zombie.
What's ur point? Can u pls be specific?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by seunmsg(m): 6:15pm On Apr 14, 2016
daretodiffer:
But if the government had said 'give money to so, so and so', what should she have done?

Who is the government if not the finance minister? As finance minister, she makes all financial decision of the government.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by ChikezieU(m): 6:17pm On Apr 14, 2016
gifsCEC:


Was there no opposition to savings during obasanjo's time? How come they saved?

Soludo said political will and character.

Now NOI has come out also to confess political will.

Whom should we believe? Soludo and NOI or Anonymous you?
thats not the reason for you to see respect for rule of law as cluelessness, you should be calling on the rascality of the Governors not the Presindent seeking for second term not knowing he would be betrayed

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:19pm On Apr 14, 2016
nworanco:

The presiding officer during the meeting were the president (jeg) and he gave accent to the outcome of the faac meeting, whoever that was there agreed to issued discussed there.

She did not say they just discussed the issue. She talked of their constitutional backing which did not exist.

Why talk about something that did not exist?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by folks4luv(f): 6:20pm On Apr 14, 2016
Nusaf:

What's ur point? Can u pls be specific?
I just made my point. say any other thing n u are tagged a wailer or zombie, some times seasoned with insults.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by mikeapollo: 6:21pm On Apr 14, 2016
modath:





https://www.thecable.ng/nigerias-current-sitaution-result-zero-political-will-save-jonthan-says-okonjo-iweala



Lalasticlala , Mynd44


Beremx,Omenka, NgeneUkwenu, musKeeto, seunmsg, tuale4u, TheGoodJoe, abagworo, aresa, babacele

A clueless, incompetent, over-rated IMF implant! A professional liar and story teller!
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Babaji111(m): 6:25pm On Apr 14, 2016
Oho! When APC was blaming the previous government on our present predicaments, the clueless wailers were blaming them.

Now who is to be blamed. A lot of confessions will soon emerge. Nemesis is a natural phenomenon not man made.

Thanks to all the progressives for voting CHANGE. As change is REAL not a fiction.

LONG LIVE BABA!
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:25pm On Apr 14, 2016
nworanco:

The presiding officer during the meeting were the president (jeg) and he gave accent to the outcome of the faac meeting, whoever that was there agreed to issued discussed there.


"It has come to our notice the statement credited to the former Coordinating Minister of the Economy and Honorable Minister of Finance, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, that the Federation Account Allocation Committee (FAAC) approved the withdrawal from Excess Crude (Foreign) Account the sum of Two Billion U.S. Dollar ($2,000,000,000.00),” the commissioners said.
“This statement is far from the fact and is misleading,” the statement said.

The FAAC meeting for November 2014 ended in confusion when the then Minister of State for Finance, Bashir Yuguda, could not explain how the balance in the ECA had dropped from $4.1 bn at the end of October to $3.1 bn.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/186229-faac-disowns-okonjo-iweala-denies-approving-withdrawal-of-2bn-excess-crude-funds.html

The Finance Commissioners wanted answers how the money left and she lied they endorsed her to withdraw the funds.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by nworanco(m): 6:26pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


She did not say they just discussed the issue. She talked of their constitutional backing which did not exist.

Why talk about something that did not exist?
But do u know that saying the commissioners backed the decision were under statement when the chief Character had exercised his veto power?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by gifsCEC: 6:27pm On Apr 14, 2016
ChikezieU:
thats not the reason for you to see respect for rule of law as cluelessness, you should be calling on the rascality of the Governors and the Presindent seeking for second term not knowing he would be betrayed

The same governors that worked with yaradua also worked with GEJ. How come they didn't harass yaraduayaradua? How come they couldn't force OBJ? Soludo confronted NOI below

“I hereby challenge your attempt to blame others for not saving for the rainy day. It is not a virtue when you are quick to appropriate all the credit when things are going well, but shift the blame when they go wrong,”

You blame the state governors, who, according to you, have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court – not that a Supreme Court judgement forced your hands. For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity.”


http://leadership.ng/news/408685/soludo-fires-okonjoiweala-n30trillion-stolen-watch

It wasn't any law that made GEJ and NOI not save....it was simply a lack of political will and she's now bold enough to admit the truth.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by nworanco(m): 6:32pm On Apr 14, 2016
Babaji111:
Oho! When APC was blaming the previous government on our present predicaments, the clueless wailers were blaming them.

Now who is to be blamed. A lot of confessions will soon emerge. Nemesis is a natural phenomenon not man made.

Thanks to all the progressives for voting CHANGE. As change is REAL not a fiction.

LONG LIVE BABA!

This govt are still with destroyers of our country from saves for the future to lavish for tommorrow's hunger.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by maupe: 6:33pm On Apr 14, 2016
shaqhead:

Son, all this semantic rigmarole is all hooey!

This your analogy has no bearing on this matter because if the governors ddnt want to continue saving they wd have opted out from the beginning but they did until....

Please tell me am wrong to the following questions:

Did the governors go to court to stop the savings in the beginning? NO!
I guess you know their adduced reason for takin that decision!

Did the governors stop the Executive arm from saving its own share of the ECA saavings? NO! ( So u kno d govs only had a 30% stake)

Are the governors responsible for the depletion of our foreign reserves? NO!

Her words are as clear as day.....she mentioned OBJ admin and compared it with the last admin where i know that Amaechi wasnt the president and if you keep pushing the Amaechi stale gibberish, you only indict your hero as nothing less than the various epithets he has been called in different fora!

You can lie to yourself all you like, jst as u- a male claimed to b "female maupe" of channels but this glaring facts you cant deny!

You ply the Apapa Oshodi expressway everyday and you still complain about the "failure" of GEJ.
You watched as Nigeria's economy grew by 6% and yet you mocked the President's economic team
You bought fuel consistently, without queing and yet you blamed him for subsidy payments.
President Jonathan, was no lee kuan Yuew, given, but he was pretty close to that.
Dont worry, Paul Nwabuikwu, will help clarify her statement tomorrow.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by 9jatatafo(m): 6:35pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


If NOI did not touched it, fought to block leakages at NNPC, tackled wastage, she would have kept the ECA funds safe.

Lying about the Federal Commissioners backing her, without knowing they did not even have such power was smoking gun that nailed their case.

She was to save it and not tamper with it. She caused the Governors to lose the will.

If she did not touch it, they will not look that way.

Some governors especially Amaechi and Oshiomole were on her neck
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Deen77: 6:36pm On Apr 14, 2016
Algeria save $155 billion Nigeria save $30 billion.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:36pm On Apr 14, 2016
nworanco:

But do u know that saying the commissioners backed the decision were under statement when the chief Character had exercised his veto power?

Did the Finance Commissioners approve the Withdrawal of Funds from the ECA?

No.

They did not even know when she took the first $1 billion from it.

So she lied.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:37pm On Apr 14, 2016
9jatatafo:


Some governors especially Amaechi and Oshiomole were on her neck

When were they on her neck?

When she took the first one billion dollars or the second one billion dollars from the ECA?

It was after she removed two billion dollars from the ECA, the Governors could not take it anymore.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:39pm On Apr 14, 2016
PentiumPro:


So what happened to the Federal government portion of the funds?
Very thoughtful and good question.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by ChikezieU(m): 6:39pm On Apr 14, 2016
gifsCEC:


The same governors that worked with yaradua also worked with GEJ. How come they didn't harass yaraduayaradua? How come they couldn't force OBJ? Soludo confronted NOI below

“I hereby challenge your attempt to blame others for not saving for the rainy day. It is not a virtue when you are quick to appropriate all the credit when things are going well, but shift the blame when they go wrong,”

You blame the state governors, who, according to you, have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court – not that a Supreme Court judgement forced your hands. For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity.”


http://leadership.ng/news/408685/soludo-fires-okonjoiweala-n30trillion-stolen-watch

It wasn't any law that made GEJ and NOI not save....it was simply a lack of political will and she's now bold enough to admit the truth.
two key words "rascality" and "rule of law". Pick one
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by MrEdimulo82(m): 6:40pm On Apr 14, 2016
Mc4larin:
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Happy birthday.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:40pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

You ply the Apapa Oshodi expressway everyday and you still complain about the "failure" of GEJ.
You watched as Nigeria's economy grew by 6% and yet you mocked the President's economic team
You bought fuel consistently, without queing and yet you blamed him for subsidy payments.
President Jonathan, was no lee kuan Yuew, given, but he was pretty close to that.
Dont worry, Paul Nwabuikwu, will help clarify her statement tomorrow.

Six percent growth on paper. If we were growing six percent as you say, why were our reserves depleting and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala withdrawing from the ECA.

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