₦airaland Forum

EazyMoh:
No Igbo party would sell in the North.
The best chance ofr an Igbo president is in APC, Rochester in particular. In 2023 after PMB'S second term. All Rochas needs to do is to convince PMB to support him. If he raises his hand in the north, believe you me majority of northerners will vote for him even against a Northern PDP candidate.
What am not sure is how much do the Igbos hate APC that they would vote for a northerner instead of an Igbo man just to prove a point that they hate the north.

jmichlins:
mate i think you need to read the discussion from top not just one quote that way you will get a broader sense of the discussion

TonyeBarcanista:
Lol... shey Na fight ni?




The good people of SW has rejected APC..
. Check result of Osun Assembly rerun to confirm. APC took 3rd position gan

NnamdiN:
I did and I'm only aligning to your post that there's really no need supporting the pdp

jmichlins:
the major power brokers in APC will make sure it never happens. The SW just gifted PMB the ticket just to capitalize on the zoning miscalculation of PDP not because they were comfortable with it. They will zone the ticket to the south which SW will clinch comfortably as birth right. You can take this to the bank

modath:
Barca, thot we already agreed that you will only say stuff you are familiar with ? Na so you talk PDP taking over FCT!!

Dey try remove SW from your permutation, haba...did your March 2015 faux pas about the likes of Osoba, Falae, Ladoja's etc "super heavyweight" status & how they had the whole SW in their pockets not teach you a thing or two about SW.... I've told you, stop relying on blogs & your party members lies, you won't know what makes SW tick going by that.... Always ask from neutrals..

The state assembly re run you are referring to, is Iyiola Omisore's Ile -Ife, what else did you expect?
Omisore doesn't scrimp when it comes to spending for elections, the result therefore isn't strange...

Check the 28th march 2015 result , it was the same result pattern, they even got a NASS HOR seat for PDP from the same Ile Ife, but couldn't get the Senatoial cos the voter strength of Ile Ife couldn't stand the Ijesha side of Ife-Ijesha + other towns that make up Osun East Senatorial District which Babajide Omoworare represents, despite PDP' Fadahunsi being of Ijesha (vote splitting purposes) stock as well & spending mega dough... Kapische ?

*You are supposed to pay me for this, just gave you info that blog links wont...*

BTW, I'm not going to say nothing about the rest, it's like beating a dead horse, 2019 is already settled, we will just watch events unfold......Chillax..

EazyMoh:
I agree with you, but I was talking about the general election.
For the primary election I know it's gonna be fierce even for PMB himself, considering forces like Saraki and Atiku uniting. Of course Rochas wouldn't stand a chance if a Yoruba is contesting. Anyway let's wait and see.

EazyMoh:
I agree with you, but I was talking about the general election.
For the primary election I know it's gonna be fierce even for PMB himself, considering forces like Saraki and Atiku uniting. Of course Rochas wouldn't stand a chance if a Yoruba is contesting. Anyway let's wait and see.

Agunechemba1:
This is one of the few reasonable article you've ever written.




PDP would only have a chance of taking over power in 2019 if they can present a credible Northerner(Sherrif not an option for me though) as its presidential candidate.


SS/SE votes are already guaranteed for the party.

Then Ike Ekweremadu or any other credible South Easterner can take the VP slot.
If pdp no regional party how do you expect to win 100% SS and SE? So you expect to win any state in north here abi? I laugh you in chines

modath:
Which Saraki? Potential former senate president & political outcast ? ...

Which Atiku? Perpetual Presidential "aspirant" ? Notice i didn't say candidate? , Atiku can't get votes outside of Adamawa....



The person that could have made headway is Lamido , but he is a potential Jailbird..

Who remain for north?

Kwankwanso has been defeathered by Ganduje..

Dankwambo is more popular on Social Media &amongst PDP members than in reality

Ribadu? No comment

Ali Shekau? He couldn't even win his PU last time & his EFCC case will probably keep him busy.

El Rufai is the only competition i can see & there is no way in heyull he will make the switch.

TonyeBarcanista:
oga use your brain and re-read again. it is common sense. The North had party ticket in 2007 while the south had chairman in 2008. The South had party ticket in 2011 while the north in 2012 had Party Chairman. The south retained the ticket in 2015 and the moral thing is for the north to retain the chairman in 2016. ideally, the north should retain the chairman till 2020 but the fact that it is having the ticket in 2018 means that it would step down in 2018 just like the South did in 2010.



Nonsense comment! The Igbo will be VP in 2019 under PDP and President in 2027. The SW has rejected APC and their ethnic supremacist views. We shall sack Buhari in 2019

DropShot:
Slave mentality!
In all previous instances you referenced, the chairmanship has gone to the zone that didn't have the presidency. GEJ's loss shouldn't prevent that "gentleman agreement" from continuing. Once GEJ lost and with the presidency zoned to the NE, the logical, rational and sensible thing to do is for PDP to zone its chairmanship to South.


Similar to the position on the Chairmanship. Nothing can justify zoning the presidency and chairmanship to the same zone if not master-slave relationship.


We know SE and PDP are Siamese twins. No problems at all. In fact, should SE be given the presidential slot in APC in 2019, the zone will still opt for PDP offering only a deputy senate presidency. Such is their lack of grasp of Naija politics. The only politics the zone understands is politics of hatred. Hence, SE will NEVER produce Nigeria's president except it changes its attitude.


Igbos will always align with PDP for obvious reasons (frauds, divide and rule at the highest level, hatred for Hausa-Yoruba party, etc). And these are the reasons they may never produce a Nigeria president. No region will be able to produce president without the SW, NE and NW.


You have sided with injustice and irrationality on many occasions. You know you stand for NOTHING and fall for ANYTHING. You speak from both sides of your mouth.


Typical of a slave!


Keep dreaming!

PMB will be president till 2023 whether una like am or not. The SW will be very silly to vote for another Northern politician other than PMB in 2019 because doing so will mean that the North will retain the presidency till 2031.

In 2023, the South (read SW) will produce the next president for another eight years. Only after sixteen years of APC may we start to determine if PDP deserves another chance at Aso Rock.

jmichlins:
you just accepted the fact that rochas has no chance against a yoruba contesting and what makes you think that one will not contest. Simply put it there is no hope for the SE/SS with the present status quo of the two political parties

HIGHESTPOPORI:
You are d one deceiving yourself,with the abysmal performance of Apc so far,they would be voted out in 2019,propaganda can't win elections for Apc again,the people are wiser now!

TonyeBarcanista:
Don't be deceived by APC's rhetoric. They don't have agreed zoning principle Like the PDP. Should Buhari fly the party's ticket in 2019, the South West may decide to clinch the party's ticket in 2023 considering that it is the party's political base in the South. However, PDP has a precedence and it favours the South East in 2027.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
You are d one deceiving yourself,with the abysmal performance of Apc so far,they would be voted out in 2019,propaganda can't win elections for Apc again,the people are wiser now!

EazyMoh:
I was imagining a situation where APC zones the presidency to SE in 2023.

TonyeBarcanista:
Lol... shey Na fight ni?




The good people of SW has rejected APC..
. Check result of Osun Assembly rerun to confirm. APC took 3rd position gan

Agunechemba1:
This is one of the few reasonable article you've ever written.




PDP would only have a chance of taking over power in 2019 if they can present a credible Northerner(Sherrif not an option for me though) as its presidential candidate.


SS/SE votes are already guaranteed for the party.

Then Ike Ekweremadu or any other credible South Easterner can take the VP slot.

EazyMoh:
Madam calm down we were talking about APC presidential primary election in the future, not general election.
We all know Saraki and Kwankwaso are sympathetic to the same old PDP blood, and so is Atiku. going by the last APC primary election result, the nPDP delegate votes is a force to reckon especially those from the north.
Also mark you all those PDP members that have been trooping into APC majority become automatic delegates in APC. They can easily be influenced to work for Saraki/Kwankwaso/Atiku, especially in 2023.

TonyeBarcanista:
oga use your brain and re-read again. it is common sense. The North had party ticket in 2007 while the south had chairman in 2008. The South had party ticket in 2011 while the north in 2012 had Party Chairman. The south retained the ticket in 2015 and the moral thing is for the north to retain the chairman in 2016. ideally, the north should retain the chairman till 2020 but the fact that it is having the ticket in 2018 means that it would step down in 2018 just like the South did in 2010.



Nonsense comment! The Igbo will be VP in 2019 under PDP and President in 2027. The SW has rejected APC and their ethnic supremacist views. We shall sack Buhari in 2019

Destined2win:
I don't think the south east needs a VP slot, Why not the Presidential slot

TonyeBarcanista:
Few days ago, the leadership of the PDP announced that it has zoned the office of the PDP National Chairman to the North East geopolitical zone of the country. While some people kicked against such arrangement saying that it is be unfair to the south for the north to retain the chairmanship office considering that the party's Presidential ticket for 2019 has been zoned to the north, some others argue that the arrangement was aimed at serving the interest of incumbent chairman Ali Modu Sheriff and his loyalists.

While I shall justify the position of the party to zone the office of the National Chairman to the North East, I shall be silent on whether or not it was to justify Sheriff's ambition to succeed himself because it is undemocratic to deny anybody the right to aspire for any political office except such ambition contravenes the law. I shall also discuss the political interest of South East geopolitical zone within the PDP.

The Legitimacy And Rationality of Zoning The Office To North East:
A critical look at the precedence within the PDP will always point that in every election/post election year, the party Presidential candidate and the occupant of National Chairman office of the party are spliit between the North and the South. After Chief Alex Ekweme stepped down in 1998 to challenge Chief Olusegun Obasanjo for the party's Presidential ticket for 1999 election, late Chief Solomon Lar from Plateau state(North Central) emerged as Chairman. In 1999 when the party held it first congress, it zoned the office of National Chairman to the zone, and produced Chief Barnabas Gemade(Benue, North Central) as chairman. In its 2001 convention, the party again allowed NC to retain the office since SW(Olusegun Obasanjo) is retaining the party Presidential ticket for 2003 election, the Convention produced Chief Audu Ogbeh (Benue, NC) as National Chairman(tenure for serving NWC officers was increased to 4years). Ogbeh resigned as Chairman in 2004 and was replaced by Col Ahmad Ali(Kogi NC) who was confirmed by 2005 National Convention. Because PDP zoned the Presidential ticket of 2007 to North West, it zoned the Chairmanship office of 2008 Convention to South East. While Musa Yar'adua(Katsina NW) emerged Presidential candidate and eventually President in 2007, Chief Vincent Ogbulafor(Abia SE) emerged National Chairman to serve till 2012. Ogbulafor was forced to resign in May 2010 and was succeeded by Dr.
Okwesileze Nwodo(Enugu, SE), who was expected to ccomplete the tenure of South East.It was expected that the North West(Yar'adua) would retain the party's Presidential ticket for 2011 while the South East would retain the office of National Chairman, as with the practice of PDP and also the North-South gentleman agreement of 2006. However, with the death of Yar'dua and emergence of Goodluck Jonathan(Bayelsa, SS) as party's Presidential candidate for 2011, it means that the National Chairmanship seat would move northward in 2012, hence, the party zoned the office of the chairman to the North East in 2012. Alhaji Bamangar Tukur (Adamawa NE) emerged Chairman in 2012 Convention, he resigned in 2014 and was ssucceeded by Alhaji Adam Muazu(Baluchi NE).

By virtue of the fact that the South South through Dr Goodluck Jonathan retained the party's Presidential ticket, it automatically means that the office of the Chairman held by North East would be retained by the zone in the 2016 National Convention. It is not the fault of the North, particularly the NorthEast that Jonathan lost the 2015 election. It will be unfair to allow the North East zone lose their legitimate right simply because Jonathan lost to Buhari. I believe that no one would even be agitating for the South to produce the Chairman if Jonathan(South) had won the 2015 President election. That said, the zoning of the chairman to the North East is highly in order.

North Producing Party Presidential Candidate For 2019 Does Not Negate It:
Using the 2019 arrangement for 2016 event is inappropriate going by party's precedents and gentleman agreement. Already, PDP has the agreement of allowing the North and South take turns of two consecutive tickets each. The death of Yar'adua saw the rule broken to accommodate Jonathan's ambition in 2011. Waiting to takeover party ticket in 2015, the party still accommodated Jonathan for a second term. One don't need a prophet to know that the legitimate thing to do in 2019 was to return the party ticket to the north in 2019 and 2023. This in no way can affect the Chairmanship position, those that feels the party chairman seat should not remain in the north east should take a holistic review of their position.

South East Must Produce PDP's VP Candidate In 2019/23 And Presidential Candidate In 2027/31:
Of the three geopolitical zones in the south, the South East has been the most shortchanged as long as the PDP is concerned despite the fact that the loyalty of the geopolitical zone to the party is never in doubt. With the emergence of Dr Goodluck Jonathan (Bayelsa SS) as PDP's Vice Presidential candidate in 2007, the coast was set for the South East to enjoy the Chairmanship seat for the period of 2008 to 2016, and also clinch the party's Presidential ticket in 2015 when the North would have exhausted their turn of two tickets through Umaru Musa Yar'adua. However er, the death of the former president and emergence of Dr.Jonathan as party's candidate in 2011 made the South East to lose the Chairmanship in 2012 because no region can hold both at the same time. Jonathan's clinching of party's in 2015 invariably means that 2019 and 2023 will be held by the North. However, considering that the VeePee slot will return to the south in 2019 and 2023, it is only appropriate the the South East be allowed to enjoy the slot considering that it is the only zone in the south that is yet to be on the Presidential and VP ticket since return of democracy. The South West through Olusegun Obasanjo(Ogun, SW) enjoyed the President slot in 1999 and 2003, the South South through Jonathan enjoyed the VP slot in 2007, and president slot in 2011 and 2015, leaving the South East with nothing. Even the office of National Chairman of the party that they were supposed to enjoy for four years(2008-2012) was only enjoyed by them for Two years(Ogbulafor 2008-2010 and Nwodo 2010), the remaining two years was held by the North through Haliru Bello in the guise of 'Acting Chairman'. I believe that justice would only be served when the zone get what is due to them.

Having said the above, I urge Igbos from the SouthEast not to be coerced into giving up their. legitimate demand of producing VP of the party in 2019 and 2023, and President in 2027 and 2031 when it returned to the South. In fact, the Igbos from South East have the moral obligation to vote against the PDP in 2019 should it deny them their legitimate slot.

I am from the South South(Rivers state) but I don't think it is appropriate to side injustice. In fact, I have consistently maintained that while the North should produce presidential candidate in 2019, the South East must produce the running mate. That position I still maintain.

Finally, I commend the NEC led by Sen Ali Modu Sheriff on the decision made so far, I believe that the party is on the right track as it prepares to takeover tenancy of Aso Rock in 2019. I pray we don't deviate.






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