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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by dblackninja: 11:26am On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


I said something like that too. smiley
Really...My brain was so saturated yesterday. I believe that's where you're going with the points you made last night
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 11:31am On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
Can you add anything to perfect again? Is the song different because he's high on weed or the quality of a song written when high? Absolutely the quality. And we have a Perfect Song Writer so he'd definitely write it. So, try again, what type of song can a Perfect Song Writer not write?



I really restraining myself from insulting your intelligence. You didnt even bother to think about what you read in my comment.

I gave you a clear example of a song that came about from a random event. You can't sit down and write it because it is not something that could be thought about. A random epiphany.

There is an episode of the Flintstones that had Fred Flinstone become a music superstar by accident. A rock or hammer fell on his leg and he started shouting "ay ay ay Iyogi ay ay ay". His friend loved the sound and it became a music hit.

What kind of song writer would be able to sit down and compose "iyogi ay ay ay ay"?


As for the weed or cocaine high, it is unique to every individual. Vybz Kartel smokes weed and becomes a philosopher poet. Kid Kudi takes drugs and becomes a suicidal poet. A great song writer could not write what another person sees in the haze of highness.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 11:40am On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:



I really restraining myself from insulting your intelligence. You didnt even bother to think about what you read in my comment.

I gave you a clear example of a song that came about from a random event. You can't sit down and write it because it is not something that could be thought about. A random epiphany.

There is an episode of the Flintstones that had Fred Flinstone become a music superstar by accident. A rock or hammer fell on his leg and he started shouting "ay ay ay Iyogi ay ay ay". His friend loved the sound and it became a music hit.

What kind of song writer would be able to sit down and compose "iyogi ay ay ay ay"?


As for the weed or cocaine high, it is unique to every individual. Vybz Kartel smokes weed and becomes a philosopher poet. Kid Kudi takes drugs and becomes a suicidal poet. A great song writer could not write what another person sees in the haze of highness.
Lol. I don't think you understand what perfection means. Go learn that first.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 11:43am On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
Lol. I don't think you understand what perfection means. Go learn that first.

Go troll somewhere else.

Can you believe this guy? Only you understand perfection abi?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 11:46am On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:

Go troll somewhere else.
Can you believe this guy? Only you understand perfection abi?
You are making fun of yourself. To you, what is perfection?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 11:50am On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
You are making fun of yourself. To you, what is perfection?

Define it yourself now. Educate me since you claim I do not know what perfection is.

lol....and as usual you won't.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by urahara(m): 11:57am On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


Well, I received a lot of unfair abuse and bans during my evangelical days. Nairaland was not always fair to atheists then. And I was not perfect myself- I used anger to react to the bias and then, the biased people use the anger as a retroactive justification for the ban. I was even betrayed by one of my disciples.

So yeah. I just do the little I can these days.

Omg. Who is that disciple
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:32pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


Define it yourself now. Educate me since you claim I do not know what perfection is.

lol....and as usual you won't.
I've told you what I think it is and you disagreed. A person who disagrees that a thing is perfect must have an idea of what perfect really is. You rejected mine so tell me.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by dblackninja: 12:36pm On May 07, 2016
Meeen this is turning to something else. Rey and LB I think it's time to end this chapter. Like I said yesterday it requires a great deal of reasoning to get this. I remembered that I always find fault in those words whenever it's mentioned right from my early university days without actually knowing why until later.

Please both of you should agree to disagree cheesy cool
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:37pm On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
I've told you what I think it is and you disagreed. A person who disagrees that a thing is perfect must have an idea of what perfect really is. You rejected mine so tell me.

Please, just go. For such a complex issue, you barely write three lines. I predicted that you won't define perfection. I've been talking about perfection for over a page. If you have no idea where I'm coming from, its your fault that you dont want to read what I wrote.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:40pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


Please, just go. For such a complex issue, you barely write three lines. I predicted that you won't define perfection. I've been talking about perfection for over a page. If you have no idea where I'm coming from, its your fault that you dont want to read what I wrote.

Lolololololol. I'm sorry, please show me where you are coming from. Please.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:40pm On May 07, 2016
dblackninja:
Meeen this is turning to something else. Rey and LB I think it's time to end this chapter. Like I said yesterday it requires a great deal of reasoning to get this. I remembered that I always find fault in those words whenever it's mentioned right from my early university days without actually knowing why until later.

Please both of you should agree to disagree cheesy cool


Regyinus is just a JAQer. "Just Asking Questions" guy.

At least, Kingebukasblog will try to state his opinions and still flesh out his beliefs. This Reyginus is an expert in asking questions over and over again without putting anything of substance. A covert way of trolling. Just look at his last 3 comments.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:41pm On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
Lolololololol. I'm sorry, please show me where you are coming from. Please.

Guy, find a better place to troll.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:42pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:



Regyinus is just a JAQer. "Just Asking Questions" guy.

At least, Kingebukasblog will try to state his opinions and still flesh out his beliefs. This Reyginus is an expert in asking questions over and over again without putting anything of substance. A covert way of trolling. Just look at his last 3 comments.

You think the length of a post gives it meaning but I don't think so. Simply tell me what Perfection is in your own language?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:43pm On May 07, 2016
dblackninja:
Meeen this is turning to something else. Rey and LB I think it's time to end this chapter. Like I said yesterday it requires a great deal of reasoning to get this. I remembered that I always find fault in those words whenever it's mentioned right from my early university days without actually knowing why until later.

Please both of you should agree to disagree cheesy cool
End which chapter? Bro, this is just the Epilogue. Agree with what? I don't agree to please people. I believe everything can be debated and understood with time. Everything.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:44pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


Guy, find a better place to troll.
Poor excuse. What's hard in explaining what you think a thing rely means if we think the idea being shared is erroneous?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:45pm On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
You think the length of a post gives it meaning but I don't think so. Simply tell me what Perfection is in your own language?

It is a complex subject but, you somehow can condense it into two lines?

Please, continue asking the question, rather than explaining your beliefs.....keep proving my point.

At least, I have a page of my arguments here if someone wants to know my position on the issue of perfection.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:46pm On May 07, 2016
Reyginus:
End which chapter? Bro, this is just the Epilogue. Agree with what? I don't agree to please people. I believe everything can be debated and understood with time. Everything.

And where have you debated the issue? lol? Show me one post?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:47pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


It is a complex subject but, you somehow can condense it into two lines?

Please, continue asking the question, rather than explaining your beliefs.....keep proving my point.

At least, I have a page of my arguments here if someone wants to know my position on the issue of perfection.
Lol. Okay. I really want the argument to move on. What exactly do you want me to do?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 12:47pm On May 07, 2016
Abeg,

Reyginus, it is okay. Let's not derail the thread.

Cheers
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:47pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:


And where have you debated the issue? lol? Show me one post?
Remind me what you say perfection is again.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 12:49pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Abeg,

Reyginus, it is okay. Let's not derail the thread.

Cheers
You sound dumb I'm not saying you are What's the meaning if this? What's so hard in defining perfection.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 2:16pm On May 07, 2016
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by urahara(m): 4:01pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?

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Hell yes.

No 1. 2.3. 4. 6

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?

cc johnydon22, tufanja, hahn, sirwere, loj, dblackninja, plaetton, areaboy2, nihilist, kingebukasblog, wirinet, cloudgoddess, lepasharon, joseph1832, onetrack, herald9, urahara
Yeah, all you wrote above and more

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by JackBizzle: 4:38pm On May 07, 2016
SirWere:
Yeah, all you wrote above and more



What is the more? What do you have to add?
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by urahara(m): 4:52pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:



What is the more? What do you have to add?

Seeing that life has to be made to count . life must be lived to the fullest since there is no after life

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by herald9: 5:35pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?


LOL.

So true.

In addition:

Everything about religion is quite surreal to me now. Whenever I hit the church, I don't seem to have any sense of belonging, it seems I'm just outside looking in.

I am more critical of every sermon; I dissect and analyse each of them which always make me chuckle, and at the same time, angry at how humans with brains could swallow such putrid without flinching.

I don't try to live good based on expected reward or to escape eternal punishment, I live good cause it'll help our continued existence.

I keep hoping that one day people will come to accept the world the way it is and stop living on sugar-coated reality painted by religion.

I'm moved by suffering and death. I sometimes wish I was a god....

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by hahn(m): 5:50pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?

cc johnydon22, tufanja, hahn, sirwere, loj, dblackninja, plaetton, areaboy2, nihilist, kingebukasblog, wirinet, cloudgoddess, lepasharon, joseph1832, onetrack, herald9, urahara

Yeah. Same here. However, I do not feel hatred. I feel a mixture of disgust and pity. Disgust at the pastor's obvious scam and pity for "believers" who have obviously been misinformed by society.

I am also more introspective and there is this necessity to only speak of what I am sure of and what I have researched.

I have also contemplated starting my own church. Money dey there oooo tongue

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by sample042(m): 6:21pm On May 07, 2016
D idea of a TIME TRAVEL to me, it's unattainable.
Will continuously refer to it as a Sci-fi.
Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by Nihilist: 7:05pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:
Weird Atheism


Has anyone seen a dramatic change in lifestyle after becoming an atheist? I know different people have different reactions but here is mine;


After becoming an atheist-

1) I have become more thoughtful about things. But this has also made me moody. This is because I am starting to realise that life is unfair and that so many people waste their lives for useless things like religion and wars.

2) I'm more interested in science fiction and the supernatural. I keep wondering what is at the end of the universe. I consume horror and sci fi movies like a madman.

3) I'm a more curious person. Nowadays, I tend to demand for proof or more explanations for things.

4) I can't stop thinking about death and history. When it comes to death, I just wonder why we are here in the first place when it is so easy to die and never come back. As for history, I keep wondering about the generations before us. When I see an old house, I imagine the people who have lived there and died there.

5) Children. My love and pity for children has grown. I realised how much misinformation we are abused with as children. The religious indoctrination and the cultural taboos. I try to teach children whenever I have the chance.


6) Hatred. There is this hatred for deceivers and false prophets. There was a time I even sat next to a pastor. This guy was so fake with all his jewleries and he was talking to me gently. Despite his gentle approach, I moved away. I could not just stand his fakeness. The clown was talking humble but has jewelry worth millions on his hands and necks. I can't even listen to christian preaching anymore or even Nigerian politicians when they speak. They lie lie lie lie.




Have you guys changed in any way?

cc johnydon22, tufanja, hahn, sirwere, loj, dblackninja, plaetton, areaboy2, nihilist, kingebukasblog, wirinet, cloudgoddess, lepasharon, joseph1832, onetrack, herald9, urahara

LOL


Long ago i made my peace with being a sinner and lecherous degenerate, unlikely to see or enter the kingdom of God whether I believed in him/her/it/them or not..

Im not particularly interested in science, don't really care much for the origin of our species, and have only mild envy of the lavish lifestyles of the pastorpreneurs.

I'm not looking for a deeper purpose to life and I'm not interested in the mysteries of the universe.

I just don't want to die. grin

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Re: A Thread For Nigerian Secular Philosophy! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:34pm On May 07, 2016
JackBizzle:



This is quite ironic seeing how you pull phrases like "God's perfect nature" out of your azz. How do you know that God is perfect?

Even your own God says that he is a jealous God. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me?? Why?? God can't bare the fact that some people prefer Zeus and Buddha?



However, that is besides the point. The fact remains that it is logically impossible to defend or even imagine something that is "all-perfect". Such a thing cannot exist. Perfection in one area usually means imperfection in another area as we have demonstrated here.

If someone is perfectly good, that means that he cannot do a lesser evil in order to stop a bigger evil.


For instance, you're in the north as a christian and there are boko haram terrorists going around killing christians. Unfortunately, a boko haram member gets lost and finds his way to your hideout. You hear him cursing christians and infidels, and by chance, he sees you guys hiding through your window. He brings out his phone to call his other members........

.....the right thing to do is to kill him or at least, knock him unconscious. However, he will fight to the death, so killing is the most likely action. Would a perfectly moral person kill him? No, the perfectly moral person would either try to reason with the terrorist or run. Both of which will get the perfectly moral person killed




It is your opinion , you are not doing well by being dogmatic about it

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