₦airaland Forum

chkil:
you want an impressive fighter fleet in africa , look at the egyptian one ( 220 F16 , 24 Rafale , 80 mirage 5 , 20 mirage 2000 ect...)

fighter :

- Dassault rafale 24
- F-16A Falcon 30
- F-16B Falcon 6
- F-16C Falcon 136
- F-16D Falcon 42
- F-4E Phantom II 30
- Mirage 2000B 3
- Mirage 2000EM 14
- Mirage 5DE 53
- Mirage 5E2 16
- Mirage 5SDD 5
- Mirage 5SDR 6
- Chengdu F-7A 60
- EMB-312 Tucano 46
- Shenyang F-6 40 ( declassify )
- Shenyang FT-6 5 ( declassify )
- Mig-21 Fishbed 60

AWACS : E-2C Hawkeye 2000 8

Training aircraft :

Alphajet MS1 25+
Alphajet MS2 13
Grob G115EG 74
K-8 Karakorum 80
L-59 Super Albatros 46

of course 1.3 billion $ per year U.S. military aid to Egypt under the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty , it help to get some F16 and abrams

Egypt is in another level. When i say impressive, ofcourse you know Egypt isn't mentioned in the scale i've used.


The Egyptian Air Force would make even your Algerian fleet pee in their pants.


1.3 billion in U.S aid is a lot of money. I do feel there (Egyptian) military is way too large though.

Sahrawi People's Liberation Army
But they are not rebels. Well at least to Nigeria and the rest of africa.
I think only morrocco sees them as rebels
They have a diplomatic mission in Nigeria

realnas:
chikl u mean a rebel group has all these hardware ? Wouldn't it limit their mobility

Oga Henry240, make you warn that chappie.

This one no be my fault.

The guy dey always look for my trouble.

Hez trying to provoke me on purpose...

Henry240:
LOLZ....... Rugged7!!!

Henry240:
Egypt is in another level. When i say impressive, ofcourse you know Egypt isn't mentioned in the scale i've used.

The Egyptian Air Force would make even your Algerian fleet pee in their pants.


1.3 billion in U.S aid is a lot of money. I do feel there (Egyptian) military is way too large though.

yeah true ! egypt is far ahead , but they have israel near them , so having a fleet of 400 , 500 fighter is useless and wasting money for countries like algeria morocco nigeria south africa , they haven't the same geopolitic situation ! for our countries having a good air defense system next a little good fighter fleet is more important !

chkil:
yeah true ! egypt is far ahead , but they have israel near them , so having a fleet of 400 , 500 fighter is useless and wasting money for countries like algeria morocco nigeria south africa , they haven't the same geopolitic situation ! for our countries having a good air defense system next a little good fighter fleet is more important !

I don't think any african country need more than 50 fighter (minus trainers) except Egypt. Even Algerian airforce to me bought more than it needs except they are seeing Egypt as a treat.

Iblawi1:
I don't think any african country need more than 50 fighter (minus trainers) except Egypt. Even Algerian airforce to me bought more than it needs except they are seeing Egypt as a treat.

no when Algeria was drowning in the bath of terrorist blood we was under embargo from 1990 to 2002 , our weapons was old, hardly maintained and obsolet, 80th sovietics weapons like the libya weapons and khaddafi when they lift the embargo on them , 15 years in military technology it's a delay century ,

so it was an urgency for algeria to replace it's old equipment and upgrade what was in service , if we see algerian equipement mig 25/ sukhoi 24/ mig 29 even if they were upgraded they are at end of life , they will be removed from service within the next 10 years maximum , the same for many equipment in navy or ground army

+ algeria havnt the same geopolitics like nigeria we have NATO in front and some historic clash with france , they like to interfere in the democracy of neighboors ( like they did in libya) .

realnas:
chikl u mean a rebel group has all these hardware ? Wouldn't it limit their mobility

R u kidding me.......

chkil:
yeah true ! egypt is far ahead , but they have israel near them , so having a fleet of 400 , 500 fighter is useless and wasting money for countries like algeria morocco nigeria south africa , they haven't the same geopolitic situation ! for our countries having a good air defense system next a little good fighter fleet is more important !

True. I agree. Good Air Defence system and a fleet of 48 fighter jets is ideal.

Oga Chkil, do you have any declassified materials on how algeria fought the counter-insurgency wars of the 90's?

I find it truly mesmerizing how algeria managed to fight that war against ALL odds.

The lessons of the war should be taught in Nigerian defence academies and staff colleges.

It mirrors the same thing Nigeria went through at the hands of so-called allies in the west.

I still believe Nigeria has a lot to learn from Algeria in COIN wars.

Instead of having americans teach Nigerian soldiers how to march in straight lines, we should be sending battalion strengths for COIN training in Algerian deserts...

chkil:
no when Algeria was drowning in the bath of terrorist blood we was under embargo from 1990 to 2002 , our weapons was old, hardly maintained and obsolet, 80th sovietics weapons like the libya weapons and khaddafi when they lift the embargo on them , 15 years in military technology it's a delay century ,

so it was an urgency for algeria to replace it's old equipment and upgrade what was in service , if we see algerian equipement mig 25/ sukhoi 24/ mig 29 even if they were upgraded they are at end of life , they will be removed from service within the next 10 years maximum , the same for many equipment in navy or ground army

+ algeria havnt the same geopolitics like nigeria we have NATO in front and some historic clash with france , they like to interfere in the democracy of neighboors ( like they did in libya) .

IbnSultaan:
THANK GOD U DON WAKEUP

bros abeg explain this picture

This is what a Nigerian JF-17 Thunder would likely look like.

Henry240:
This is what a Nigerian JF-17 Thunder would likely look like.

How u take know?

rugged7:
Oga Chkil, do you have any declassified materials on how algeria fought the counter-insurgency wars of the 90's?

I find it truly mesmerizing how algeria managed to fight that war against ALL odds.

The lessons of the war should be taught in Nigerian defence academies and staff colleges.

It mirrors the same thing Nigeria went through at the hands of so-called allies in the west.

I still believe Nigeria has a lot to learn from Algeria in COIN wars.

Instead of having americans teach Nigerian soldiers how to march in straight lines, we should be sending battalion strengths for COIN training in Algerian deserts...

I think the war against boko haram is a much greater scale than terrorism in Algeria in 90th , but the next phase that will face the Nigerian army after having destroyed the large terrorist base will be the same which experienced Algeria , small pockets of resistance and terrorist guerilla hidden in the mountains, forest committing sneaky attacks, bombings and ambush against army and civilian . i think the algerian experience can help and not only the military strategy but also the political and economic solution that used Algeria , because what is certain is to finish with terrorism and insurgency use only the strength is not enough . for exemple Algeria offered forgiveness to the terrorists who have no blood on their hands , as part of a national reconciliation project, and has applied economic, social and religious solutions in the poor area in which terrorist was recruiting before .

Xbee007:
How u take know?

God bless you for dis question

realnas:
chikl u mean a rebel group has all these hardware ? Wouldn't it limit their mobility

honestly , I'm not an expert on this subject, but what I know is that Morocco has built a protective wall in 80th to stop the Saharawi attack (in red on the map) , so the territories below the wall are controlled by the Saharawi and there are several observation point on both sides of the UN mission MINUSMA (blue flag on the map) , there is a refugee camp sahraoui in algeria in tindouf ( red flag on the map) and Algeria supports sahraoui . there is also diplomatic agreement between Morocco and Western Sahara ( ONU) , so their was no military confrontation in this last 20 years .

so for your question , i think for the mobility they can move in the south of the moroccan wall and in the algerian borders

AFSF

rugged7:
Instead of having americans teach Nigerian soldiers how to march in straight lines, we should be sending battalion strengths for COIN training in Algerian deserts...

This should be given consideration by the Nigerian military.

Henry240:
True. I agree. Good Air Defence system and a fleet of 48 fighter jets is ideal.

Seconded!!

I felt ashamed and intimidated when I say the assets the Western Sahara separatists were fielding vis-a-vis what Nigeria fields considering that Nigeria is an independent resource rich nation. I believe the Nigerian leadership just lacks the will to upgrade it's defense capabilities. Shame.

rugged7:
It's people like you, who after the war is done and dusted; will swear with your inflamed testicles how Nigeria would never have been able to defeat boko haram without "western" help.

Well, we are making it CRYSTAL CLEAR, that the west up til now, has still done NOTHING.

Everything done to defeat these animals has been through the blood, sweat and Ingenuity of the Nigerian armed forces.

Meanwhile, i warned you before not to comment on anything i say.

I know you always use 95% of your brain cells in writing crap.

Well, i don't want to see your crap

No need to behave like a child.

Fact is, you complain about everything

giles14:
God bless you for dis question

Xbee007:
How u take know?

giles14:
God bless you for dis question

Xbee007:
How u take know?

o boy you should have read in between lines before asking your question,he said LIKELY,and likely means probably, probably means not certain.hmmmmm nawaoo

Henry240:
This is what a Nigerian JF-17 Thunder would likely look like.

Are you sure it won't be camouflaged for the ground attack role?

Like the F-7s.

pacretus:
o boy you should have read in between lines before asking your question,he said LIKELY,and likely means probably, probably means not certain.hmmmmm nawaoo

Ahh just tire!!

MikeCZA:
Are you sure it won't be camouflaged for the ground attack role?

Like the F-7s.

That's highly unlikely.

Nigerian Air Force

Henry240:
Na money nw!!!!


As soon as they can make enough sales of LAVs, MRAPs and Boats, they would be able to continue financing the project. If our Police can order at-least 50 units of Proforce LAVs, they should be able to have the funds need to finance the IFV project.

talkingof MRAP,oga henro wot of proforce ara mrap any idea if it's finished

chkil:
I think the war against boko haram is a much greater scale than terrorism in Algeria in 90th , but the next phase that will face the Nigerian army after having destroyed the large terrorist base will be the same which experienced Algeria , small pockets of resistance and terrorist guerilla hidden in the mountains, forest committing sneaky attacks, bombings and ambush against army and civilian . i think the algerian experience can help and not only the military strategy but also the political and economic solution that used Algeria , because what is certain is to finish with terrorism and insurgency use only the strength is not enough . for exemple Algeria offered forgiveness to the terrorists who have no blood on their hands , as part of a national reconciliation project, and has applied economic, social and religious solutions in the poor area in which terrorist was recruiting before .

this is something i have being wanting to highlight ,most of you nigerians have being talking of success but i can tell you your far from success.there is no way boko haram will confront a well armed mechanised force,some will run others returning to their civilian lives.waiting for the moment to strike.capturing territory is the easy part,keeping it secure is the next big challenge.
looking at what is happening in the Niger delta you still have a long way to go

Nigerian Air Force

Xbee007:
How u take know?

Na Henry240 take over from Dasuki, na him de give d moni make him make the acquisition

rugged7:
It's people like you, who after the war is done and dusted; will swear with your inflamed testicles how Nigeria would never have been able to defeat boko haram without "western" help.

Well, we are making it CRYSTAL CLEAR, that the west up til now, has still done NOTHING.

Everything done to defeat these animals has been through the blood, sweat and Ingenuity of the Nigerian armed forces.

Meanwhile, i warned you before not to comment on anything i say.

I know you always use 95% of your brain cells in writing crap.

Well, i don't want to see your crap

rugged 7 you still need the west ,as once a somalia warlord interviewed said "they are Gods of war" ok tell us which month or year we will never hear of alshabaab again ?

somalia soldiers