tossen:


Matt 5:5 - blessed r the meek for they shall inherit the earth.


Psalm 37: 9-11 - for evil doers shall be cut off but they that wait upon the lord shall inherit the earth for yet a little while and the wicked shall not be yea thou shall diligently consider his place and it shall not be but the meek shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Relevance?

Do u take the bible literally or figuratively. Heaven is a place as described in these texts. I don't know what you are talking about.

those verses establish that its not everyone that will go to heaven, majority of the righteous will INHERIT THE EARTH!!!

Jessicha:


those verses establish that its not everyone that will go to heaven, majority of the righteous will INHERIT THE EARTH!!!

Looooooooooooooool! So you're saying there are two places to go to? Majority of the righteous will inherit the earth... And the rest? And what qualifies the admission into either of the two?

Jessicha:


criticize ? because I gave u scripture that negates ur view

The word negates tho... Smh. U seem so proud of urself. I'm hppy for you.

Ur scripture didn't negate my view o. Perception of heaven aside. The scripture still follows my postulation that we are all going to heaven if we declare Christ and live The Christlike life. I don't care where heaven literally is. I am talking about the expected end of the person who follows the Christ life. Simple.

tossen:


Looooooooooooooool! So you're saying there are two places to go to? Majority of the righteous will inherit the earth... And the rest? And what qualifies the admission into either of the two?

thats the problem wit people , am saying ? or the bible said ?

2pet 3:13 talks about a new heaven and a new earth . so its not me saying it but the scriptures, am happy u see it in ur bible.

tossen:


The word negates tho... Smh. U seem so proud of urself. I'm hppy for you.

Ur scripture didn't negate my view o. Perception of heaven aside. The scripture still follows my postulation that we are all going to heaven if we declare Christ and live The Christlike life. I don't care where heaven literally is. I am talking about the expected end of the person who follows the Christ life. Simple.

okay, 2 peter 3:13 makes it clear that there will be a new heaven and a NEW EARTH.

if everybody go to heaven, tell me the purpose of the new earth ?

Jessicha:


thats the problem wit people , am saying ? or the bible said ?

2pet 3:13 talks about a new heaven and a new earth . so its not me saying it but the scriptures, am happy u see it in ur bible.

You are negating my postulation of going to heaven by saying there's also earth for some to go to. I know this is in the bible. . but how does that correct my statement?

Why are you motivated to negate people even when eventually we are pulling from the same bible and arriving at the same point.

Jessicha:


okay, 2 peter 3:13 makes it clear that there will be a new heaven and a NEW EARTH.

if everybody go to heaven, tell me the purpose of the new earth ?

Its for you to tell me. You brought up new earth. Tell me who goes to these places and their qualifications

tossen:


You are negating my postulation of going to heaven by saying there's also earth for some to go to. I know this is in the bible. . but how does that correct my statement?

Why are you motivated to negate people even when eventually we are pulling from the same bible and arriving at the same point.

your statement is EVERYBODY go to heaven, how then can u reconcile that with the fact that there will be a new earth ?

tossen:


Its for you to tell me. You brought up new earth . Tell me who goes to these places and their qualifications

i brought up new earth ? lolz, jessicha wrote 2 pet 3:13 ?

Jessicha:


your statement is EVERYBODY go to heaven, how then can u reconcile that with the fact that there will be a new earth ?

Me:We are all going to the house in ikoyi once daddy completes it
Jessica: No. Ur wrong. Some of us will live upstairs and some will live downstairs.

There will be a new earth and some wil go there meaning we aren't all going to heaven abi?
Who goes to heaven who stays in the new earth and why. If u can't answer me. Stop this. Its unnecessary. Stop poking holes.. It isn't our mission on earth.

Jessicha:


i brought up new earth ? lolz, jessicha wrote 2 pet 3:13 ?

Okay u didn't bring it up. What did u use to negate the fact that we are all going to heaven, if we live the Christlike life?

tossen:


Me:We are all going to the house in ikoyi once daddy completes it
Jessica: No. Ur wrong. Some of us will live upstairs and some will live downstairs.

There will be a new earth and some wil go there meaning we aren't all going to heaven abi?


Who goes to heaven who stays in the new earth and why. If u can't answer me. Stop this. Its unnecessary. Stop poking holes.. It isn't our mission on earth.

GBAM! @ bold, thats the point

Jessicha:


i brought up new earth ? lolz, jessicha wrote 2 pet 3:13 ?

I can't believe u are even denying this. . . did I lie against you. And why is that the only point u chose to respond to?

I realise it will be futile to engage in this with u. It is also not spiritually edifying. I told people to stop arguing already. It will be terrible if I engage u in something that seems like your sole purpose and inspiration on earth. Arguing and going round and round twisting words and citing suitable books to NEGATE a fellow christian. I prefer to invite people who don't know to come and enjoy the Grace of God. Have a good day.

tossen:


Okay u didn't bring it up. What did u use to negate the fact that we are all going to heaven, if we live the Christlike life?

sister, the belive that everybody go to heaven is not SCRIPTURAL.

Jessicha:


GBAM! @ bold, thats the point

U have smartly refused to answer my question. What is the qualification.? Who goes there? So that next time, I can say it properly. Are u a manipulator of the word of God?

Bye J, wish u all d best in ur spiritual journey. Arguing new earth isn't my purpose. I'm not impressed or edified. I'm almost embarassed for ur insistence and desire to just argue.

Jessicha:


sister, the belive that everybody go to heaven is not SCRIPTURAL.

Me: Everyone goes to heaven.(I said everyone who lives Christlike. Before u misquote that too)

You: Not scriptural.

Me: What is scriptural?

You: New earth and new heaven.

Me: Who goes there?

You: refuse to answer.

Me: How do we separate who goes there?

You : refuse to answer

U are not here to teach me what you assume I don't know and improve my knowledge. U are only here to poke holes,

tossen:


Save the people that don't know... Preach to them and quit arguing with people non believers assume are fellow Christians as you. If theres no unity in Christendom... And it has been divided into factions... Soul winning is no longer for God... But for your faction. Its sad. This is not just to you... But to everyone on this thread... Fellow christian arguing "My Christianity is better than yours. Its the right way". I ask you this one question... Is that why we are here?

tanks tossen I m not preaching my church and there is nothing like faction in the kingdom of christ, as for preaching the bible teaches us to exalt,reprove and rebuke. Jesus in his work of evangelism rebuked the teaching of the pharism even at the age of twelve he was with the lawyers in the temple exposing the word of God to them,paul dealt seriously with false teaching, a christian should do the same not turning blind eye to it. the most dangerous thing in the body of christ is not sin but false teaching because with sound teaching sin can be dealt with but when false teaching is there the church lose her power. Remember salvation is not by works but by grace but how can people know it without the true gospel.u think jw are working for God? remember the girl with the spirit of divination.
see these verses Rev2:14,20
vs14 But I have a few things against thee because thou has them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel to eat things sacrificed unto idols and to commit formication.
vs20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit formication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.

tossen:

Me: Everyone goes to heaven.(I said everyone who lives Christlike. Before u misquote that too)
You: Not scriptural.
Me: What is scriptural?
You: New earth and new heaven.
Me: Who goes there?
You: refuse to answer.
Me: How do we separate who goes there?
You : refuse to answer
U are not here to teach me what you assume I don't know and improve my knowledge. U are only here to poke holes,

God decides



" So , then, it depends , not upon the one wishing nor upon the one running , ,but upon God, ,who has mercy " Romans 9:16

solite3:
tanks tossen I m not preaching my church and there is nothing like faction in the kingdom of christ, as for preaching the bible teaches us to exalt,reprove and rebuke. Jesus in his work of evangelism rebuked the teaching of the pharism even at the age of twelve he was with the lawyers in the temple exposing the word of God to them,paul dealt seriously with false teaching, a christian should do the same not turning blind eye to it. the most dangerous thing in the body of christ is not sin but false teaching because with sound teaching sin can be dealt with but when false teaching is there the church lose her power. Remember salvation is not by works but by grace but how can people know it without the true gospel.u think jw are working for God? remember the girl with the spirit of divination.
see these verses Rev2:14,20
vs14 But I have a few things against thee because thou has them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel to eat things sacrificed unto idols and to commit formication.
vs20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit formication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.

I just don't like engaging in arguments with them. I wish we could just rebuke the spirit in them and watch the holyspirit descend in their hearts. Arguments is their pleasure and purpose.

Look at the topic posted self. They stated a certain Nr of JW were killed in world war. They don't care about the Christians killed. Was it a war waged against them or the Jews? What is the purpose of that fact? And what are Jews supposed to b doing if they are doing this?

God bless you... God be with you and teach you the right things in your spiritual journey. Have a great day.

Jessicha:


God decides



" So , then, it depends , not upon the one wishing nor upon the one running , ,but upon God, ,who has mercy " Romans 9:16

This text wasn't talking about new heaven or earth therefore... It doesn't answer my questions.

Based on this text, Since u know God will have mercy upon who he will have mercy upon... Why all the stress arguing and negating. Knowing fully well its not about who best quotes the scripture.

What is your purpose if not confusion?

Take another twenty minutes to look for an inept and insufficient response that isn't about propagation of the gospel but proving yourself correct.

tossen:


This text wasn't talking about new heaven or earth therefore... It doesn't answer my questions.

Based on this text, Since u know God will have mercy upon who he will have mercy upon... Why all the stress arguing and negating. Knowing fully well its not about who best quotes the scripture.

What is your purpose if not confusion?

Take another twenty minutes to look for an inept and insufficient response that isn't about propagation of the gospel but proving yourself correct.

truth is bitter, I see.

my purpose of quoting that scripture is to let you know it doesnt depend upon the one wishing" Rom 9:16 e.g i wish to be in heaven or i WISH to be in the new earth . but this decision rests on God.

if all uv gain today is that you now know the scripture talks about a new heaven and also a NEW EARTH, not just heaven. glory be to God.

Jessicha:



truth is bitter, I see.

my purpose of quoting that scripture is to let you know it doesnt depend upon the one wishing" Rom 9:16 e.g i wish to be in heaven or i WISH to be in the new earth . but this decision rests on God.

if all uv gain today is that you now know the scripture talks about a new heaven and also a NEW EARTH, not just heaven. glory be to God.

All I have to gain is that we are all going to HEAVEN and it is left to God to decide. What part of heaven or what type of heaven or definition of heaven... Is unnecessary. God bless your spiritual journey. Less hustle on correctness and arguments more hustle on spreading the word and leading people to God.

Jessicha:



truth is bitter, I see.

my purpose of quoting that scripture is to let you know it doesnt depend upon the one wishing" Rom 9:16 e.g i wish to be in heaven or i WISH to be in the new earth . but this decision rests on God.

if all uv gain today is that you now know the scripture talks about a new heaven and also a NEW EARTH, not just heaven. glory be to God.

When u know the decision rests on God why are u making it a point of argument when u know it isn't what a person should be bothered about which heaven they go to... Why wasting time telling them instead of leading them towards God and then let God decide. I learnt nothing from you except as usual all I have known about u people since I was a child. You waste time on unnecessary facts, and when u leave we r not the better for it. Sometimes we are even confused. May God forgive you and your group.

Dear Jessicha... This is why people reject your teachings. U just demonstrated it. I spoke on what I understood. You said I was wrong. Willing to learn... I asked u to enlighten me about it then u said it isn't what I should be concerned about but God. Why bring it up in The first place? Only God knows. All you did was ensure we wouldn't move forward from that point then u said truth is bitter as if I was hurt whereas I was willing to learn from u. God help ur ministry.

U didn't give me a scripture that negates my view. U built up on my view.

solite3:
thank God u agreed that Jesus have one nature.

continous lie against me will not make your lies turn to truth. I've asked you to show where I said you should where I said Jesus had one nature with God , you could not!
I've accused you of making false accusations without proof ,now I'm using this post to reaffirm my believe that you solite3 is very good at making false accusation without proof.
you use those false accusation as an excuse not to respond to certain questions and issues
For example, you claim jesus is still a man in heaven, and you said Jesus had a god cus he was a man. now you are being asked if jesus still has a God since he is a man in heaven?

*readers should note if he will answer the question above

you claimed jesus broke his body but only sacrificed his blood, I should you scriptures that explained that Jesus gave both his body and blood, you could only cancel it,refusing to respond to it.

u don't know what u re saying.u said nature does not determine servitude that is only for created things u got it.
The bolded part is falsely added to my statement, why?
you should have quoted me(where I said those words), but because it wunt allow you add words to my statement, or if you add it, it will glaringly evident, you decided not to quote.

[quote]God is not a servant by nature but angels are.that is while those angels that left their first estate are in chains.may God forgive u.

is Satan a servant of God now?
who is the God of this system of things.
* a question I've asked before but you refuse to answer
what is divine nature, and what is form of god ?

solite3:
first of all everything is wrong with u agueing God's word secondly it not my assertion that Jesus is the most high it is in the bible even dolphineheart agreed Jesus had God's nature.u re not Elihu.Elihu had d spirit of God which u do not av.

solite3 , stop lying against me!
If you can't provide proof of what I said, stop lying!
an example: I have the same nature as my father
I have the same human nature as my father

I have the form of a human
my father has the form of a human
we both have the same human form

my father has his own human form
I have my own human form

brocab:
Then if your bible don't justify the truth about Christ, then you can't explain anything concerning {Revelation 1:7-8. Revelation 1:1-6, or Hebrews 1:9}
Is this why the JW's don't use the New World Translation bible, because it doesn't line up with the word of God.
And if your bible don't hold the truth about Christ, then why are you believing in a doctrine that's under these circumstances?

you are a very funny person , you cut part of my post off, and presented the part that has nothing to do with your reply.
well, I count this as an attempt to change the topic,
brocab, pls quote and explain rev:1,4-6 , heb 1:9 And then tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.

tossen:
Dear Jessicha... This is why people reject your teachings. U just demonstrated it. I spoke on what I understood. You said I was wrong. Willing to learn... I asked u to enlighten me about it then u said it isn't what I should be concerned about but God. Why bring it up in The first place? Only God knows. All you did was ensure we wouldn't move forward from that point then u said truth is bitter as if I was hurt whereas I was willing to learn from u. God help ur ministry.

U didn't give me a scripture that negates my view. U built up on my view.

there is a slight difference in your understandings
you believe everyone goes to heaven, but the part of heaven they go to is decided by God.
*pls cotrect me if I'm wrong

Jessicha believs that it is not everyone that goes to heaven, that some will be here on earth, ant that who goes where will be decided by God.

The difference now is not in who decides , but in where everybody goes to.

does everyone go to heaven?(everyone here denote those you feel gained the approval of God to go to heaven), the answer is no , for the scriptures say that some will be here on earth.

dolphinheart:


there is a slight difference in your understandings
you believe everyone goes to heaven, but the part of heaven they go to is decided by God.
*pls cotrect me if I'm wrong

Jessicha believs that it is not everyone that goes to heaven, that some will be here on earth, ant that who goes where will be decided by God.

The difference now is not in who decides , but in where everybody goes to.

does everyone go to heaven?(everyone here denote those you feel gained the approval of God to go to heaven), the answer is no , for the scriptures say that some will be here on earth.

Pls I wasn't talking to u. Don't engage yourself in a futile discourse. preach the gospel don't tell ppl d type of heaven they r going. Don't confuse people. Such confusion incites more questions ur sister wasn't able to answer.

Jessicha:


those verses establish that its not everyone that will go to heaven, majority of the righteous will INHERIT THE EARTH!!!

Jessy, don't bother yourself anylonger, this tossen of a guy isn't honest with the Bible.

tempem:
Jessy, don't bother yourself anylonger, this tossen of a guy isn't honest with the Bible.

Apparently Jesus lied in John 14:3 he should have said places?

Thank you. Feel free to judge me. Its what u all do best . eventually my destination is apportioned not by my dexterity with the bible but as God wills.

dolphinheart:


you are a very funny person , you cut part of my post off, and presented the part that has nothing to do with your reply.
well, I count this as an attempt to change the topic,
brocab, pls quote and explain rev:1,4-6 , heb 1:9 And then tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.

The same way your Jessy mutilated my message and chose to hammer on the actual word I used instead of the message I was out to pass. Thereby completely changing the topic.