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| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by iwaeda: 1:43pm On May 13, 2016 |
phlemzy:Why will this group of confused people get money to pay |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by plaetton: 1:45pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:This is what I call cooking a good soup and then covering it with dirty cloth. There are good sound arguments for the removal of any SUBSIDY of any sort. Those arguments were valid during the Abacha era, valid during the OBJ era, valid during the GEJ era, and still valid today. It is really that simple. Now, dragging GEJ into every wishy washy policy reversals and rigmaroles betrays the shallowness ,insecurity and cognitive dissonance that are the hallmarks of this government and its praise singers. Saying that subsidy removal is well warranted now, but wasn't during the GEJ era, and then using very silly illogical arguments about excess crude oil, higher oil price, etc, go buttress such convoluted logic betrays the extremes of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. If you understand the simple logic of fuel SUBSIDY, then your argument is laughable, at best. Let me enlighten you. You see sir, the higher the price of crude oil, the higher the price refined petroleum, and hence, the higher the SUBSIDY the government pays to make petrol available. Therefore, by simple arithmetic, it was much more imperative to remove SUBSIDY or increase the pump price during GEJ era than it is now that the price of crude oil is 70% less than what it was during the said GEJ time. As of last month, several media in Nigeria repeatedly reported that the government was making a PROFIT of about N8-N10 per litre of petrol sold in Nigeria. SUBSIDY, by simple arithmetic, had disappeared and even turned positive over the past year. So, sir, your argument is totally debunked. You know that, hence the compulsive recourse, the addiction to invoke GEJ to justify wishy washy ad-hoc policies of this government. The government desperately needs money. Period. Nigerians who are going to be negatively affected by this 68% jump in pump prices have As much right to protest and vent their anger NOW as they did in 2012. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a liar and a big hypocrite. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by MizMyColi(f): 1:45pm On May 13, 2016 |
Dropshot. So shaming that you would openly support this development instead of giving time to watch the direction of things and then draw facts based observations and not mere speculations. You do not even reside in this country for crying out loud!! Oh well, that's why it must have been so easy to pen this down. Sheggy13: |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Ovie56(m): 1:46pm On May 13, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:God bless you 7 months into his inauguration he's approval rating is even more than 70%.. The OP with his flawed analysis is just trying to justify his pay..i don't even know why analysis such as this is on FL |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Nobody: 1:46pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:what topic ... ....well the results of hypocrisy would soon catch with you all... |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by saintandsinnerz: 1:48pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:You said Nigeria was earning Excess crude revenue hence there is the need for the masses to benefit from it also. I now ask, if oil price rises again and we have excess revenue from its sells, should the government introduce subsidy again so that the masses can gain from it judging by your argument? Again, you said Nigerians saw that Gej's government was corrupt, hence were right to reject it. I ask are you saying Nigeria is now free of corruption? Are you saying Nigeria's public sector are now ridden of corruption? Look, if you want to support subsidy support it without throwing up irrelevant argument to support it |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Nobody: 1:54pm On May 13, 2016 |
plaetton:I don't think the OP understands simple mathematics. Removal of oil subsidy when oil prices were high was more justified than right now when the prices are at an all time low. So based on basic mathematics, there's no need to subsidise anything and gas should be cheaper now than it was when oil prices were high, even without subsidy. These people think everyone is gullible, even if majority of Nigerians are. Buhari and Jonathan were sired by the same father; two disingenuous and uneducated leaders. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by jaybee(f): 1:55pm On May 13, 2016 |
DesChyko:The so-called Jonathan knew he was very wrong that is why he reversed the subsidy! Evidence: the SURE-P was a calculated colossal SCAM! |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by kaka74: 1:55pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:You a bloddy lying hypocrite somebdy dat won elections in may convincingly didn't have d trust of nigerians in dec? |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Nobody: 1:58pm On May 13, 2016 |
Every right thinking Nigerian knows that the removal of fuel subsidy is the needed chloroquine to treat the malaria of fuel shortages and queues. What really rankles is why those who now trumpet its merits allowed the ailment to persist by misdiagnosing it to the public. The argument that Jonathan was not trusted enough to put the money that would be saved from the removal to good use does not hold water. Jonathan took the decision in January 2012, some seven months after he was overwhelming elected by Nigerians with an approval rating hitting the ceiling. It was the then opposition, now the ruling party, that meticulously put together such tales for cheap political harvest. The chicken has finally come home to roost and Nigerians have seen how their backs became a mule that was cheaply ridden to power by men who fed lies to them. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by DropShot(op): 1:58pm On May 13, 2016 |
kaka74:No need to hyperventilate. Just check your facts. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by donbenie(m): 2:07pm On May 13, 2016 |
plaetton:You've just won the best write up it's been my privilege to read on Nairaland..#RESPECT |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Nobody: 2:08pm On May 13, 2016 |
Who else noticed Droptshot has refused to tackle the intellectual queries but keeps picking up the mindless rants? You're just good at spinning a yarn sir, your write up is worth Buhari's integrity |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by cococandy(f): 2:13pm On May 13, 2016 |
duality:Thanks for saving me the stress of typing this. Dropshot you're a nauseating hypocrite. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Ugoebuka47: 2:13pm On May 13, 2016 |
The last administration was just 7months old when they brought the idea of removing subsidy so I wonder how you and your cohort were able to conclude that the government is not trustworthy within such period of time. Now I see more reason why APC employed so many media adviser so as to cover up for shameful acts like dis,and mind u am not a Pdp or Apc member,I am just saying as a Nigerian. Yeye dey really smell DropShot: |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by LaExpert: 2:16pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:As at January 2012, what was the proof that Jonathan was corrupt? PS: You are a hypocrite if you don't prove the corrupt regime at least, by listing the corruption cases against him or his administration then. Remember, the agitation of the people then was that 'Jonathan was making life unbearable for Nigerians by removing subsidy.' |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Ngokafor(f): 2:18pm On May 13, 2016 |
Rose2014:....Oh so the iddiotic op does not even live in Nigeria ...and poverty-stricken zombies trapped in this country are supporting and applauding the dishonest clown ...I bought a custard of tomatoes for 3000 yesterday as against 500 two months ago almost in tears and i am supposed to listen to the clown?...*walks out hissing* |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by LaExpert: 2:21pm On May 13, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:Absolutely correct. Hypocrites and zombies keep hiding under the word 'corruption' to defend their hypocrisy. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by cococandy(f): 2:22pm On May 13, 2016 |
Ngokafor:Even if he doesn't live in the country what about his relatives there? Anybody that can't sympathize with others because it's not affecting him directly is not a nice person. Just imagine what people are going through for Christ sake. Even the smallest things cost triple their normal prices. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Ngokafor(f): 2:25pm On May 13, 2016 |
cococandy:...Exactly!!..but do these zombies care.Its anything for their illiterate god buhari.I can assure you that Apc and its zombie supporters are the most evil set of people on earth..nonsense things! |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by dutchie101: 2:26pm On May 13, 2016 |
Ok if Jonathan was right back then as claimed by wailers, how come he did not insists on subsidy removal, could it be because he was to weak to implement as evident in other policies he proposed like TSA , Trains, BVN, Niger bridge?.....how come he did not act like a firm leader and do what was best for the country then even in the face of pressures and riots? Oh could it be because of those cabals, i mean where they so strong or what? I mean GEJ indeed had good plans but he did not have the wherewithal to implement, do we truly want that as a president of our dear nation? The guys criticizing Buhari now on every single oppurtunity should know that its not possible to bring bag GEJ, we are all stucked with Buhari at least until 2019, no amount of wailing can change that, just wait until 2019 and use ur voting power instead. Writing gibberish on here does not and will not change anything, dont waste your energy, instead make the best of the current situation you have found yourself with new pump price, make adjustments and stop wailing...and if you are jobless and insist on wailing better off look for the next proposed subsidy protest and join, just make sure you take your bed along with essential supplies because you may be there for the long haul. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by xest(m): 2:26pm On May 13, 2016 |
Who ever u are shut up. U dnt knw book at all. Finally the buharis,tinubus,atikus,objs that mobilised ppl to protest against subsidy removal in 2012 are all supporting it now. Now was wrong initially? If u say GEJ is corrupt then that was y they refused hm removing subsidy,that means u are the biggest fool in Nigeria and the world in its entirety. If u see black call it black dnt change d colour. Ppl lik cnt make dis country grow. When many r already apologising to Jonathan and his cabinet abt ds subsidy u r here saying bladdadash. Com gerrout here...get lost fool |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Standing5(m): 2:29pm On May 13, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:Always rushing to comment half trash half sense. The OP is partially right. The write up didn't take into consideration fact that governors to were opposed to accumulation of funds into the FGs purse due to open looting going on then. The most glaring difference between 2012 and 2016 removal is trust in leaders. Even if oil sold for $108pb at present, Nigerians would support subsidy removal because they believe the money will be well spent to alleviate their pains. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Deen77: 2:32pm On May 13, 2016 |
Rose2014:Do you read the article? Sample analysis. GEJ crude is $100 + x 2.2 million barrels = $220 million per day. Buhari $35 x 1,7 million barrels = $60 million. $220 million compared to $60 million. What stop PDP from building a refinery to stop importation of fuel 10 year's ago?, imagine injecting subsidies of the last 6 year's into our economy.
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| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by AprokoTV(m): 2:41pm On May 13, 2016 |
Are they right in fixing 145 naira as maximum sale per litre? You forgot that there are some places in Nigeria that sold above 100 naira even when there was no fuel scarcity. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by knowme(m): 2:43pm On May 13, 2016 |
LadyExcellency:Lol, accept that your man was too weak to run this country simple |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by modath(f): 2:44pm On May 13, 2016 |
MizMyColi:After those dead soldiers pic, I've known you are full of Macbeth level machiavellian destructive ways but I don't let it bother me, cos people are who they are, it's life..... However I can't let this level of mischief go without addressing it... I've excised majority of the sentimental campaign after election crap you've put up, you are full of a lot of stuff and none smells good!! I made this comment; No offence meant & I'm not trolling you but as long as you have totally aligned with a party,irrespective of its ideology and quality of people it fronts , you have to take all it presents warts & all...How did you arrive at Yoruba factor from this? When it was expressly stated that in 2011 when ACN had a candidate in Ribadu, I voted for CPC, which was Buhari's party then.... why didn't blind ethnic alignment swing me towards Ribadu? 2015, APC got my vote cos of Buhari, how then did the yoruba factor come into play in my decision to pitch my tent with Buhari, madam light and love There is no detribalized Nigerian but not all of us are crazily and myopically tribalized since that's who you are!!!! Did Tompolo not claim he supported Jona cos he is his brother? SE folks adopted Jona saying he is their bros as well, so Yoruba have no right to carve their path the best way that suits them!!! Abi? [/b]It's called intolerance and selfishness!! Madam, you don't have any say or a right in what people see in people, who made you boss of their emotions?? I have a right to support who I want and No, your opinion doesn't count cos you can support a goat for all I care!! Free will madam, Free will... You need to desist from this divisive stuff you engage in? That light and love thing you keep yapping about will forgive you, though there is no evidence of it in your acts and conducts,!!! SMH!! ![]() BTW, what happened to the shadow CLOWNS? No yam peels from the main Yams to spread for them? |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by LaExpert: 2:45pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:PRESENT THE CORRUPTION FACTS (as at Jan 2012)! You're the proponent! |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by MikeB3(m): 2:47pm On May 13, 2016 |
I don't blame you Mr Dropshot you have surplus in your pocket that is why you can type what majority on this platform will term as nonsensical and one that is lacking empathy to your fellow Nigerians especially when they are lamenting about the increase in the price of PMS. Nigerians needs motivating factors and demoralizing factors! They want positive change and not a negative one! I am an optimist and I believe Nigeria shall regain greatness in all ramifications! #Itiswell #GodblessNigeria #Amen |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by Johnsinia(m): 2:50pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:I put it to you sir, that u r one of the paid foo.l by APC to come online to decieve other foo.ls like u to accept ds fraud calld subsidy removal as u did decieve them to vote a foolish old goat of a presidnt who culdnt even spell his name into power. But you ve FAILED. Naija don wise up nw. Tank u. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by LaExpert: 2:51pm On May 13, 2016 |
dutchie101:A leader listens and is tolerant, he can't enforce what is good on the people if they don't want it. If Occupy Nigeria zombies churn out in large numbers as they did in 2012, causing deaths and unrest, the present administration will be forced to take the step Jonathan nobly took. Let the present administration and zombies just stop the hypocrisy and move forward. It is that simple. |
| Re: FG Is Right On Fuel Subsidy Removal by ibietela2(m): 2:52pm On May 13, 2016 |
DropShot:So you drop Passingshot and picked up dropshot? Issorait |
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....well the results of hypocrisy would soon catch with you all...
but zombies already supporting him as expected.
Yeye de smell
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