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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:31pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3 look at my explanations on phiL 2:6-8, my statements and explanation of my statements. I'm doing this to show you that unlike you, I'm ready to answer to requests. may 9,2011 dolphinheart:when you respond, pls dnt muddle it up and endeavor to answer the questions there! may 9 dolphinheart:may 11 dolphinheart:may 11 dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:38pm On May 20, 2016 |
Barristter07:oh my! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 3:44pm On May 20, 2016 |
johnw74 johnw74:you are putting yourself in more trouble . - [size=27] this post above shows that you johnw74 is deceiving the readers by posting MISLEADING INFORMATION. [/size] there are some readers on Nairaland that doesnt bother to comment, so at first glance they will be mislead by your statement. " look out Jesus said a Disciple " . u never reveal this statement wasnt found in the bible UNTIL you are PreSSEd like an Orange. so such a reader who belives every thing, on seeing disciple will believe its from the Bible ? thereby spreading false information. 2) To examine ur statement, I asked: show me where that statement can be found in the bible ? [size=23] you didnt confess [/size] instead to which you johnw74 replied: johnw74:you now denied you never said its in the bible , |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:51pm On May 20, 2016 |
Jozzy4:u do err Jesus and his father are both one God.John 16:15 All things that the father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Here Jesus was claiming ownership of whatever his father has. Again chech this Luke 24:26 [color=#770077]Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into[b] his [/b]glory[/color] Was Christ given this glory before? Check this John17:5 And now, O Father , glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was here Jesus is saying that he had been having the same glory together with the father, he didn't say the glory that was given to him. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:01pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3 solite3:cover your face in shame , you asked did he says it is in the Bible ? johnw74he said IT ( the statement) should be search for where ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:08pm On May 20, 2016 |
dolphinheart dolphinheart:brother, this shows the level at which people can go to lie . he said "you can search the translations for IT. " yet he denied again that he never said its in the bible . infact , imagine someone quoting a movie in a bible discussion , and never confessed this until he is seriously hammered. ... if not that he was caught , he would have continue with his lie of go and search translations for it, as if its there. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 20, 2016 |
dolphinheart:how does all these explain what u meant by this statement"Jesus has same nature as God" show me where u explained it. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:26pm On May 20, 2016 |
Barristter07:u re only good at misquoting people, he never said it is in the Bible. It may not be in the exact way he puts it but the message he passes across is clear n it is in the bible. Barrister you are the one who should be ashamed after half quoting and misquoting me u are still jumping around picking words up and down. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:31pm On May 20, 2016 |
Barristter07:how does this disprove what he posted about your organization ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 4:32pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:" have given them the glory that you gave me , " John 17:22 see your life . again , Jesus will be subjected under the authority of his God and Father ( 1 cor 15:28) , do u belive this ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 4:38pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:this your drama is making me love this thread the more. answer his question : john said the statement should be searched for at where ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:54pm On May 20, 2016 |
Jozzy4: John 17:5 Jesus is speaking about the glory he was yet to receive.John 17:22 he is speaking about the glory he had at that present time. Two different things ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:56pm On May 20, 2016 |
Jozzy4:do u even understand what he was saying? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:07pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:to receive from who ? will Almighty God receive glory from anyone ? ![]() John 17:22 he is speaking about the glory he had at that present time.that he was GIVEN, isnt it ? can the Ruler of the universe be given glory ? use your thinking ability Two different thingsi see you are scared to answer me : Jesus Christ will be subjected to the authority of His God and Father, do u belive this ? 1 cor 15:28 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:11pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:yes I do so answer him , dont dodge ur lie. john said he should search those words at where ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:50pm On May 20, 2016*. Modified: 7:12pm On May 20, 2016 |
[quote author=Jozzy4 post=45808873] to receive from who ? will Almighty God receive glory from anyone ?God cannot receive anythin from any man because he owns all things except he put down his glory that he was GIVEN, isnt it ?that word that says Jesus was given glory is only used because he was a servant n a man .can the Ruler of the universe be given glory ?the ruler puts down his crown n take it up again, is that hard to understand iDo you believe the bible? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:59pm On May 20, 2016 |
Jozzy4:what he said was actually true, the Pharisees were actually looking for a way to trap Jesus in his words and that my friend was true.that is what matters |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:44pm On May 20, 2016 |
Barristter07:I do understand sir, I've been following his denial on these thread ever since you asked him that question |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:52pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:read the post again sir!, expecially where I quoted philipians 2: 6. Your questions are still pending Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! 1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:08pm On May 20, 2016*. Modified: 10:05pm On May 20, 2016 |
dolphinheart:all I c are scriptures that do not relate to my question .All I want is for you to show me were u explained "Jesus has same nature as God" failure to do so will mean u re are a liar. Mean while I answered ur questions but I told u I can't quote the whole verse. Let me post them again |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:21pm On May 20, 2016 |
dolphinheart:these were your words dolphinsheart , u initially asked me to share my view on these verses u never told me to quote and explain. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:38pm On May 20, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=45380961]this was how I replied by even going extra mile to quote it since u ve brought revelation1:4-6 let's c what it says |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:02pm On May 20, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=45408248]I even told u who was talking in rev 3 [ b]the issue of who was talking in Revelation 1,2&3 it is Jesus[/b]Then I explained heb 1:9. as for heb1:9 brocab addressed it before I don' t like going back to things. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:35pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:that's what you programmed your eyes to see. read it again, slowly this time, examine the places I mentioned nature! All I want is for you to show me were u explained "Jesus has same nature as God" failure to do so will mean u re are a liar.I've done that extensively, I can't be blamed for your failure to see it . meanwhile, your questions are still pending 1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:53pm On May 20, 2016 |
Just answer Solite3 question, dolpinheart do you agree the Father called Jesus God? dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:58pm On May 20, 2016 |
solite3:now let's look at my question again: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 if you can't explain these verses, then its you that needs forgiveness." Now let's look at your deliberately seperated answers: since u ve brought revelation1:4-6 let's c what it saysdid you see what you did wrong there ?, you failed to share your understand of verse 1, 5, and 6 of revelation chapter 1. you deliberately omitted verse one and just quoted verse and 6 without telling us what you understand by what is written there. therefore solite3, pls correct those deliberate omissions, you have not answered it. b]the issue of who was talking in Revelation 1,2&3 it is Jesus[/b]I did not ask you about revelation 1,2&3. I asked you to tell us who is talking in rev 3: 2,12 in your next post correct this too. as for heb1:9 brocab addressed it before I don' t like going back to things.I will hold on to these your explanation of heb 1:9, will come back to it once you have added the omitted verses and made neccessary corrections in your next post. you can see once again the verses you did not attend to , so dnt claim that you have answered all the questions. The questions are still pending 1. Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! 2. on April 27 this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:01am On May 21, 2016 |
If Christians are not suppose to make false allegations, then why do you call yourself a Christian in the first place. JW's are proven to be the greatest lairs when any religion is involved. Hypocrites for you shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men, for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. I had asked you to prove, where I had lied against {Revelation 1:7-8} Please show the world who's lying, dolphinheart or the word of God. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:04am On May 21, 2016 |
dolphinheart:Yes it shows I don't have anything to do with satans church except expose their lies |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:06am On May 21, 2016 |
brocab:like I said to him, I'll reply you the same way, only dubious people answer question with a question, hope you are not dubious brocab? If you want that question answered, you can help him answer the question he was asked before he replied with a question, then ask these and ill answer you. brocab, you asked me to show you certain scriptures, I've done so, but no response from you yet ! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:09am On May 21, 2016 |
johnw74:but right now, we are not talking about any church, the request is for you to share your understanding about certain scriptures. from the transLation that you use. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:09am On May 21, 2016 |
Are you dubious? Or just pain stupid. Answer Solite3 question, I did ask you to answer {Revelation 1:7-8} two months ago, and I am still waiting? So no-to your lies-you haven't answered the scripture I had asked you to answer. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:11am On May 21, 2016 |
Barristter07:pharacee jw cannot help but lie, I never said it's in the Bible you asked for scripture I told you to look for it Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
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