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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 8:10am On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74 johnw74: Lie Lie John , johnw74 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:00am On May 26, 2016 |
brocab: BROCAB, YOU HAVE FOMULATED YOUR DOCTRINE FROM DERIVED AND INDIRECT ANALOGY OF THE SCRIPTURES, THUS YOU CANNOT ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT SHOWS YOUR DOCTRINE TO BE FALSE. YOU ARE READY TO READ SOME SCRIPTURES, BUT WHEN OTHERS ARE BEING POSTED TO YOU , YOU ACT AS IF IT DOES NOT EXIST AND REFUSE TO EXPLAIN THEM. HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND SCRIPTURES READERS PLS NOTE THAT HE COULD NOT GIVE A REPLY TO THE QUESTIONS OR EXPLAIN THE SCRIPTURES SHOWN TO HIM, HENCE HE IS NOW TRYING TO CHANGE THE ISSUES BEING DISCUSSED BELOW IS MY RESPONSE TO YOUR POST, PLS RESPOND! brocab: WHAT DID JESUS OUR SAVIOR SAY ABOUT GAINING EVALASTING LIFE? King James Version Joh 17:1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Joun 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. SOME CLAIM JESUS IS FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN BUT CAN NOT EXPLAIN HOW JESUS BEING FULLY GOD WAS : 1. Giving authority by someone else King James Version [b]Joh 5:26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; Joh 5:27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. imagine, claiming someone is fully God yet he being given authority by someone else! 2. giving power by someone else King James Version Joh 3:35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. English Standard Version On one of those days, as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with him to heal. Guys, check out the only true god! Jer 27:4Give them this command for their masters: “‘“This is what Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, says; this is what you should say to your masters, Jer 27:5‘It is I who made the earth, mankind, and the beasts that are on the surface of the earth by my great power and by my outstretched arm; and I have given it to whomever I please. can you guys see the difference!, yet they claim jesus is fully God. 3. Is not able to take any initiative by himself except what he sees another doing. King James Version Joh 5:19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. imagine fully God can do nothing of himself. 4. will be shown greater works King James Version Joh 5:20For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 5. calls someone else his God. [b]King James Version Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 6.cannot give certain things King James Version Mt 20:23And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. 7. does not know certain things matt 24:36 English Standard Version “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 8. fully God and yet said this. King James Version Mt 27:46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? SOME PREFER TO USE UNSCRIPTURAL WORDS AND TERMS TO DESCRIBE JESUS, BUT WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURES SAY WHEN JESUS CAME TO EARTH. john 1:14 English Standard Version And the Word BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the ONLY SON FROM THE FATHER, full of grace and truth. King James Bible And the Word was MADE FLESH , and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. did that verse say Jesus added flesh to his divine nature? no did it say Jesus had two natures? no what glory did it say we beheld , God ? no , son of God ! JESUS WAS MADE FLESH, JESUS BECAME FLESH! WHEN JESUS BECAME FLESH, DID HE RETAIN PART OF HIS DIVINE NATURE , TALK LESS OF ALL OF HIS DIVINE NATURE? phil 2:7 English Standard Version color=red]BUT EMPTIED HIMSELF[/color]but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men International Standard Version Instead, poured out in emptiness, a servant's form did he possess, A MORTAL MAN BECOMING. In human form he chose to be, Isa 53:2, 3He will come up like a twig before him, like a root out of parched land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; And when we see him, his appearance does not draw us to him.3He was despised and was avoided by men, A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness. It was as if his face were hidden from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account. brocab, you know I like asking you questions, telling you to explain the scriptures to me and expecially to thousands of people reading this thread. so pls brocab can you explain this two scriptures? King James Version Da 7:13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Da 7:14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. who is the Lamb and who is the ancient of days? *READERS SHOULD NOTE IF HE WILL EXPLAIN BROCAB HAS ALSO FAI LED TO ATTEND TO THIS: And yet no response from you on the issue you yourself raised? also up till now , you have not answered these questions( more on these will be brought up later) you have also refused to respond to these questions and scripture: [b]Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work. Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found? If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!. Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself. Examine this questions brocab 1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth? 2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.? 3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit? 4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am" 5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit. 6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question. You cannot answer if Jesus is the same person as the father. brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures : 1.rev 1:1,6 2. Rev 3, 2,13 3. John 17:1-3 4. Heb 1:1 -9 5. John 20:17 6. 1 cor 11:3 7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6 8.Acts 4:10 9. Acts 2:36 10. Acts 2:24 11. Acts 5:30 12.Acts 10:38,40,43 11. Phil 2:9,11 12. john 14:6 13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30 14. 1 john 4:14 15. Heb 5:7 16. ps 28:18 And a host of others Brocab , examine these scripture Acts 5: 31. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God almighty![/b] |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:11am On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74: if I respond to this, will you discuss it? no Will you give me a chance to tell my own understanding? no even if I do attempt to tell you my understanding, will you listen to me? no Why?, because you dnt discuss with jw's, how do you expect them to answer your questions. well you can continue in your stance, it saves me time to respond to you. you are the sole talker here , so continue once in a while, I'll respond with lie lie john! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:17am On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74: pls, pls, pls ,pls pls pls, DNT LIE AGAINST ME!, DNT ALTER MY WORDS TO MEAN SOME THING ELSE. You can refuse to discuss, but lying against by altering their words is a new low, a really deep one! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:19am On May 26, 2016 |
[quote author=dolphinheart post=45960614] I do understand what the post was about, it's from a Web page that tried to give surr port to the Textus Receptus by undermining older manuscripts and texts.nooo the textus Receptus didn't undermine older manuscripts It feels that the best way to defend it's own established flaws is to attack the perceived flaws of the manuscripts it deferred from.if those so called manuscripts have flaws then you can't use it to make a claim. So far the assumptions that since "Alpha and Omega"in revelations1:11 is not in the supposed older manuscripts(which are very few compared to the ones that are lost) then it was added to thetkjv is baseless and flawed, since those older manuscripts also have flaws. fortunately we are discussing about rev 1:11 and the addition of " Alpha and omega" and not about the book of revelation.then what proof do you have that Alpha and Omega as found in kjv was added even in your attempt to discredit those manuscripts, you could not discredit there record of rev 1:11. You believe that making a general reference to perceived flaws in them will affect the credibility of that verse, but I can bet you will balk at it if the same method you are trying to use is used for the Textus Receptus.you can't say Alpha and Omega was added only because some older manuscripts do not have it let's even use it:you are drawing conclusions from what is generally believed,you have not been able to prove that Alpha and Omega was added to revelations1:11 you are just making assumptions Does the few that have rev 1:11 in them include the words "Alpha and omega", if so, which one!?I thought you have done the research , why are you still dealing in assumptions and allegations?is rev 1:11 currupted in the earliest manuscripts? another explanation based on assumptions .older manuscripts doesn't mean they where the original one.making alligations as usual,there are hundreds of verses that proves Trinity. [right]moreover, you have failed to tell us this manuscript that is in possession of these church fathers, that the Textus Receptus copied rev 1:11 from! good, give us one example of the variants of rev 1:11 since you have proven to have variants.so pathetic for you [right]pls let's deal with facts naw!, how can you now be saying you have facts when all you do is talk about allegations!all the facts you are trying to use against revelation 1:11 are just assumptions |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:21am On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74: now what I actually said is different from what you initially gold brocab I said, so pls go ahead, bring out the post and let's see my full reply to you. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:55am On May 26, 2016 |
solite3:sir, I'll advice that you read my statements very well before you reply, did I say that the Textus Receptus undermine older manuscripts? no! I was talking about the Web page trying to give surpport to the Textus Receptus by undermining older manuscripts and texts that the Textus Receptus defered from. The Web page, even with all its undermining, could not give a defence as to why the Textus Receptus had " Alpha and omega in rev 1:11 if those so called manuscripts have flaws then you can't use it to make a claim.like I said earlier, that method of attack is flawed, cus if that same line is used for the Textus Receptus, it will fall like a pack of cards. fortunately for us, we are not talking about the book of rev in general, we are talking about just one verse! You have failed to show that the much older manuscripts where flawed in that particular verse(note: this is a fact). Erasmus admitted to having flaws in the Textus Receptus, he thus tried to adjust some of those flaws in subsequent editions, should I use that as a basis for rejecting it's record of rev 1:11 like you are trying to do for older manuscripts? So far the assumptions that since "Alpha and Omega"in revelations1:11 is not in the supposed older manuscripts(which are very few compared to the ones that are lost) then it was added to thetkjv is baseless and flawed, since those older manuscripts also have flaws.fact 2: the older manuscripts, which scholars have termed to be more reliable, which Erasmus could not use cus he did not have them ,DO NOT HAVE THE WORDS " Alpha and omega" in rev 1:11 fact 3: the older manuscripts are not "supposed" older manuscripts. They are in fact very much older than the Textus Receptus or the sources the Textus Receptus got its texts from! like I said, using that general logic to cancel the authenticity of a particular verse has a more lethal and devastating effect on the Textus Receptus. then what proof do you have that Alpha now Omega as found in kjv was addedI just stated a fact which you failed to respond to :" you have failed to show how the Textus Receptus came about the word "Alpha and omega" found in rev 1:11 that statement is proof enough that the word " Alpha and omega was added to that verse. If something cannot be found in a particular verse of a manuscript that existed a long time ago, and then was seen in a printed work hundred of years later, it remains for the person who added it to show reasons for the addition. If such one claim that those words where in that verse originally and then removed, SUCH ONE SHOULD SHOW PROOF THAT SUCH WORDS WHERE IN THAT VERSE ORIGINALLY!, failure to show such proof shows that the additions where spurious with no claim. any attempt to discredit the older manuscripts,but not discreditin their record of that particular verse is not accepted. you can't say Alpha and Omega was added only because some older manuscripts do not have itpls list the older manuscripts that have those words in that verse is not only say it was added, I'm claiming its spurious with no tangible defense for its addition. you are drawing conclusions from what is generally believed,you have not been able to proveI was just showing you how illogical your use of supposed general flaws in the older manuscripts is. It's good to see that the same logic as used by the Web page will not be accepted by you if it's used against the Textus Receptus. it is so unfortunate that one cannot make you see straight let me tell you revelations was a source of debate during the early times.anytime you are being asked a thought provoking question you can't answer, you tend to divert away from it, refusing to respond to it! yes the book of revelevation was a source of debate in earlier times, even up till now it's still a source of debate but: Does the few that have rev 1:11 in them include the words "Alpha and omega", if so, which one!? is the late canonisation of the book of Revelation caused by its early corruption? answer and add proof. is rev 1:11 currupted in the earliest manuscripts? answer and add proof older manuscripts doesn't mean they where the original one.making alligations as usual,there are hundreds of verses that proves Trinity. you are just trying to divert again, I did not claim that the older manuscripts where the original ones. but the older manuscripts claimed it's source from the original ones or copies of the original ones, something the Textus Receptus does not even try to claim. The bolded parts are mine own words, not yours!,SO STOP REMOVING WORDS FROM MY QUOTES AND AD ING IT TO YOURS! so pathetic for youyou cannot provide just one variant? you make claims and cannot give just one evidence? yet you claim to have done research? all the facts you are trying to use against revelation 1:11 are just assumptions1. you failed to defend the fact that you are just posting allegations with no facts to surpport it. 2. I've shown you facts above, you cannot disprove it 3. I've focused my facts on the issue under discussion , which is rev 1:11 4. Once again , you failed to respond to a very important part of the discussion: pls dnt stop, pls tell us how the Textus Receptus come about the words it added to rev 1:11, ""Alpha and omega". where did it get it from? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:04pm On May 26, 2016 |
Barristter07: You and dolphinheart keep posting the same Lie lie over and over again and you called Bible verses Lie Lie johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:07pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart: @bold, Of course you will, false jw loves to lie. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:11pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart: Ha ha what a phony, Lie Lie dolphinheart |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:19pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart: Lie lie dolphinheart you know as well as I do that the conversation wen't something like johnw74: God and the Word is God dolphinheart: your god is a two headed god now you were referring to my God, "God and the Word" but twist away, it's one of those things false jw do and bring out the post yourself, you are deluded to think I'm going search back for false jw, I would do it for brocab a Christian. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 12:31pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74 johnw74: another encounter in progress which Lie did I post ? ( * A) expecting ur reply . 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:53pm On May 26, 2016 |
Barristter07: duh, you say I Lie Lie, that is the lie you keep saying over and over again I explained myself well, but you have been blinded and cannot see any truth. You also called bible verses Lie Lie, and you are pretending you didn't read it again: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/64#45973992 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:54pm On May 26, 2016 |
barristter rejected Bible verses calling them lie lie: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/64#45973992 Lie Lie barristter, here are more Lie Lie from false jw: [img]http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovahs-witnesses.pdf[/img]
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 1:10pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74, johnw74: but I got prove that u lied, u know ? loser - 1. no disciple ever told our Lord Jesus Christ that look out they are trying to trap you, its a lie by one lie lie John. - 2. You also lied that u never said it was in the bible. whereas I got solid proof of you telling readers to check translations for ur lie. we search translations and it wasnt found hehehe. johnw74 actually is a fraud. he thinks his lie will be in the bible thats why he tell me to go and search the translations for it only for him to realise he has entered OnE Chance.
hehehe , another lie, please quote me saying bible verses is a Lie. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:11pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:I am not trying to make a case for the textus receptus here but to show you that even those older manuscripts have issues so you cannot say that Alpha and omega in revelation 1:11 was added. Shalom |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:23pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart denies saying God and the Word is a two headed god johnw74: God and the Word is God dolphinheart: your god is a two headed god now if Lie Lie dolphinheart isn't referring to God and the Word as my two headed god then who is he referring to? Lie Lie dolphinheart continue reading 607 & 1914 here: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-7-times.php more lies from Lie Lie false jw:
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:32pm On May 26, 2016 |
Barristter07: Lie Lie barristter rejected my honest explanation because he has been blinded and cannot see truth Barristter07: You posted my quote of Bible verses and replied Lie Lie John to it but Lie lie barristter loves to continue lying. score false jw lies = so so many johnw74 lies = not one even it it was one, which isn't, wow I'm so far ahead more false jw Lie Lie tomorrow |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 1:36pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74 johnw74: enough of this rant , prove that I post a lie ? you no get! Lie Lie John 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:59pm On May 26, 2016 |
Barristter07: Lie Lie barristter you lie every time that you say I lied again for the blinded, Lie Lie barrister posted my quote of Bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to it if he wasn't referring to my post then why did he quote it Lie Lie barristter cannot help but Lie Lie Truth couldn't be proved to Lie Lie barristter who has been blinded you have proved that yourself in your inability to see the truth johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:37pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74: when someone wants to lie or defend a lie, the bolded words will Come up. They will never categorically say " this is what I said and this is where and how I said it" they are sure of what I said and where I said, but when asked to produce facts, they are now fomulating probabilities. imagine saying I said something from a conversation that you are not sure of! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:42pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74:AND UP TILL NOW YOU COULD NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF WHERE I SAID SO! lie lie john! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:58pm On May 26, 2016 |
solite3:good, so from your research, pls tell us where the Textus Receptus Got rev 1:11 from? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 9:01pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:can you tell us about the Finished mystery? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 9:10pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:On pgs. 66, 69, 211, 423, 560, 648, and 719 of Jehovah's Witnesses--- 39)? Proclaimers of God's Kingdom the , reference is made to Studies in the Scriptures The Finished Mystery , which was the 7th of series published by the WTS in 1917 (pg 66, 719), and was the major publication of the WTS at that time. On pgs. 88, 648, and 651, a picture of this book appear s, complete with the winged disk symbol of the Egyptian sun god Ra on its front cover. Is it true that The Finished Mystery taught that Christ is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, and the Almighty of Rev 1:8 (pg 15), that Christ established a "Church" (pg 17), that Christ returned invisibly in 1874 (pg 54, 60, 68), that Armageddon was definitely going to occur in the spring of 1918 (pg 62 and 128), that the Holy Spirit has a personality (pg 57), that the great pyramid of Giza was God's stone w itness and was used to predict the year of Armageddon (pg 60), that Christ was crucified (pg 68), that Heb 1:6 is translated, “Let all the angels of God worship him” (pg 104), that Leviathan of the Bible refers to the steam locomotive (pg 85), that Michael are his bishops (pg 188), that Nah 2:3is the Pope of Rome and the angels 6 describes the railway train (pg 93), that the great earthquake of Rev 6:12 refers literally to the Lisbon earthquake of Nov 1, 1775, and it refers symbolically to the American Rev olution (pg 119), that the sun becoming black in Rev 6:12 refers literally to a dark day which occurred on May 19, 1780, and refers symbolically to the light of the papal heavens darkened when Napoleon fined the Pope 10 million dollars and took the Pope a prisoner to France (pg 120), that Christ is eternal, “the same yesterday, today, and forever. Heb 13:8 pg 142), and that the Seventh Volume of Studies in the Scriptures (also known as The Finished Mystery) is “Divinely provided” (pg 145)? According to "current" WTS teachings, Christ began to reign in heaven in 1914 and around 1918 chose the WTS as his earthly organization because they were the only ones teaching "the Truth". If this was so, then Jesus would have known the teachings of the WTS as put forth in The Finished Mystery, published in 1917. Do you really think that Jesus would have chosen an organization which taught so many things that were not correct according to "current" WTS teachings and are no longer taught as "the Truth"? Since God does not tell lies or change his mind (Num 23:19, Ps 89:34, Heb 6:18), and it is clear that the WTS could not have possibly been speaking for God when they taught these things, at least according to current WTS teachings, how do you know that the WTS is speaking for God now? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:43pm On May 26, 2016 |
zodiakzax: na you ask question, na you answer! like I always say those who try go bring these issues to me, I have knowledge only about what Ive learnt and what I'm presently being taught. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:50pm On May 26, 2016 |
zodiakzax: sorry ,nope. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:04pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:no you prove to me it was added, you were the one who said Alpha and Omega was added to revelation 1:11 failure to do this will to expose you as a liar just like watch tower is been exposed for liars that they are, for me I trust God's word. Also add were you explained Jesus has same nature as God.I can't believe you said that Dolphins heart: Jesus has same nature as God Solite:Then Jesus is God Dolphinsheart: Solite you are lying that's not what I meant Solite:what do you mean? dolphins heart: I meant Jesus has same nature with God Solite: wat do you even mean by the word nature, define it dolphins heart Solite |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:16pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:And you sheepishly follow not minding if they are wrong, why do you attack people who have held on to the unchangeable teachings of Christ but follow man made doctrine that changes like chameleon. The watch tower has a very bad history,can you trust such? Remember what Jesus told you "A bad tree cannot bring forth a good fruit" if the tree ( watch tower ) was not bad it would not have produce a corrupt fruit ( history of lies )shalom |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:19pm On May 26, 2016 |
dolphinheart:go and make a research into it. Your founder believed in things that the WTS has changed over the years. If you want to know the truth then start questioning your very cult and their doctrines. John 20:28, Thomas here called Jesus my Lord and my God. Your blasphemous bible even translated it as such. Turn to God bfr it's too late for you. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:34pm On May 26, 2016 |
johnw74: God and the Word is God dolphinheart: your god is a two headed god and now dolphinheart says he didn't call God and the Word "a two headed god" what a phony Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. @underline, the pharasee along with satan were part of Jesus' murder Lie Lie dolphinheart |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:46pm On May 26, 2016 |
Lie Lie barristter here are more lies from false jw: Favourite Watchtower Quotes Watchtower has made an incredible range of audacious statements over the years. For instance: “If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.” Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 Or compare the difference when referring to people who want to join Jehovah's Witnesses, with those that leave: “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” Awake! 2009 Jul p.29 “Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.” Watchtower Study Edition 2013 Jan 15 p.16 Here are some of my favourite. Continue reading ...http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/favourite-quotes.php more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm |
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