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solite3:
rev3:14 means Jesus is the source or originator of all things or you want to trickisly take away that title from him. All things are of the father and through the son. You lie it didn't say all things came from the father but all things are of him. go and check well

Jozzy4:

Rusell give Rev 1:8 to Jesus, but he is not consistent with that explanation because at Rev 5:1 Rusell admit that this is talking about the Father.

so he was not consistent, a man who claimed to have special anointing from Jehovah or was the guy liying chei you guys might have been scamed

Whereas the Person sitting on the throne is the one called the one who is , who was and who is to come ( Rev 1:4) .

but Jesus said he is also sitting down on his father's throne na rev3:21


For ur information, anyone who claims Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus must be ready to accept that the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ... To be consistent.

Rusell give Rev 1:8 to Jesus, but he is not consistent with that explanation because at Rev 5:1 Rusell admit that this is talking about the Father.

Whereas the Person sitting on the throne is the one called the one who is , who was and who is to come ( Rev 1:4) .

For ur information, anyone who claims Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus must be ready to accept that the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ... To be consistent.

Jozzy4:
Liar

solite3:
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dolphinheart:
I have the same nature as my father, I'm I my Father? no
my Father is human, I am a human! I'm not my Father neither I'm I equal to Him.
As to the issue of creation: ZODIAKZAX, GO BACK TO THAT POST I EXPLAINED THINGS TO YOU USING THE SCRIPTURES , STOP ACTING AS IF YOU DID NOT SEE IT.

people who personality attack others during a discussion without proof show who they really are!

Jozzy4:
The Father is the source, from whom all things are !!! 1 cor 8:6

Jesus is the beginning of the Creation of God Rev 3:14 KJV , u agree with Kjv ?

solite3:
where is the lie there. O I forgot you never attended school.

solite3:
@ bold where is that

Special anointing kwa? Like seeing a vision of Jesus calling him to become a pastor or seeing God in his dreams telling him to become a bishop . oga, he never claimed any special revelation from God like ur men in black clergymen do . sorry

He only based his belives on the revelations contained in the Bible.

[s]About Rev 3:21 , are u saying God lap Jesus or what , same way Jesus will lap his 12 apostles on his Own throne ?
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Next time , for proper understanding read Act 2:32,33 God raise Jesus to his right hand. [

Once again to be consistent, are u saying the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ? Ur disgrace just began

Jozzy4:
Special anointing kwa? Like seeing a vision of Jesus calling him to become a pastor or seeing God in his dreams telling him to become a bishop . oga, he never claimed any special revelation from God like ur men in black clergymen do . sorry

He only based his belives on the revelations contained in the Bible.


About Rev 3:21 , are u saying God lap Jesus or what , same way Jesus will lap his 12 apostles on his Own throne ?

Next time , for proper understanding read Act 2:32,33 God raise Jesus to his right hand.

Once again to be consistent, are u saying the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus ? Ur disgrace just began

zodiakzax:
oo. Dolphinheart Listen to wisdom: if you have the same Nature as your father then both of you are humans. Your father is a human being but is greater than you in position, that's because he is your Father. Jesus and God the Father have the same nature and what nature is that? God's nature. And if He has God's nature who is He? Human or God? that God Nature makes Him God just as Human nature makes us Human. And we keep on telling you that Jesus came as both God and Man," Even Though in the Form of God, thought it not Robbery to be Equal with God: but made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant (whose servant? God's) and was made in the likeness of men..." Philp2:6-7,8. Jesus was both God and man. Read Mathew 21:15-16,cf Ps 8:2, Jesus used the word meant for God for Himself. What does that tell u? Also you can read John 12:37-43. Can't wait to see how you will explain it. Since you fight against Textus receptus so much pls be my guest to use any other greek rendering to explain it. We blv ur bible translation is wrong, you say ours (kjv) is wrong. In order to understand each other pls let's use a greek version. Kingdom Interlinear greek (KIT) will be perfect since it was published by the watch tower.

zodiakzax:
Mr man or boy, have you read the finished mystery yourself, you lack understanding and know not wht you talk about. Russell claims the Finished mystery was Divinely provided” (pg 145). Go and get the book and read and stop demonstrating your ignorance here.

Jozzy4:
" for us there is one God, the Father, from
whom are all things " 1 Cor 8:6 ESV

solite3:
you have now run away to ESV

Jozzy4:
You are just one confuse being been brainwashed by those men in BLACK.

By Gods nature, do u mean divine Nature ?

zodiakzax:
asking silly qtns everytime: what's the difference between God's nature and Divine Nature?

Jozzy4:
Learn to comprehend, solite said Rusell himself not book, claim to be SPECIALLY ANOINTED BY GOD, and i ask is it by seeing Jesus asking him to become a pastor or reverend like ur men in black always claim ?

zodiakzax:
you only keep on biting your own tail. Russell Claims the finished mystery was divinely provided so the Finished mystery he claimed was from Christ. But now you deny what Russell Blvd in and taught. Your Founder! Confused pple. Satan makes a fool out of you and you don't even see it.

Efrankbblog:
Jehovah's Witnesses had its origins in the Bible Student movement. It founder was Charles Taze Russell in the 1870s. financing of our publications come from voluntary donations. Any more questions?

Jozzy4:
Just imagine, where is the lie there ? Dont worry the page is forever there for people to see.

Jozzy4:
To be consistent, if Rev 1:8 refers to Jesus you must admit the one sitting on the throne at Rev 5:1 is Jesus , do you ?

If u dont , u are just another sheep scattered by men in Back

Jozzy4:
You mean there is no difference, see your life.

humans will be ressurected To heaven to share in the divine nature of God , does it mean this humans will become Almighty Gods ? 2 pet 1:4

Jozzy4:
Show me where he claimed to be the founder of Jehovahs Witnesses ?

zodiakzax:
oo. Dolphinheart Listen to wisdom: if you have the same Nature as your father then both of you are humans.

Your father is a human being but is greater than you in position, that's because he is your Father. Jesus and God the Father have the same nature and what nature is that? God's nature. And if He has God's nature who is He? Human or God? that God Nature makes Him God just as Human nature makes us Human.

And we keep on telling you that Jesus came as both God and Man," Even Though in the Form of God, thought it not Robbery to be Equal with God: but made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant (whose servant? God's) and was made in the likeness of men..." Philp2:6-7,8. Jesus was both God and man. Read Mathew 21:15-16,cf Ps 8:2,

Jesus used the word meant for God for Himself. What does that tell u?

Also you can read John 12:37-43. Can't wait to see how you will explain it. Since you fight against Textus receptus so much pls be my guest to use any other greek rendering to explain it. We blv ur bible translation is wrong, you say ours (kjv) is wrong. In order to understand each other pls let's use a greek version. Kingdom Interlinear greek (KIT) will be perfect since it was published by the watch tower.

dolphinheart:
1. They are points detailing how God gave jesus the Revelation and that Jesus is not the one who is, who was and who is to come.
It gave a detailed explanation of rev 1: 1,4-8 that you could not refute.
you could not quote and explain the scriptures mentioned their.

2. you could not even show prove of where I said what you accused me of .

3. In not posting for you to believe me, cus I know you wunt, but I want you to answer the questions posted to you.
and pls, stop cutting parts of my post ofF!

your questions are still pendin sir

Jesus has a God, yes or no,?
Jesus is subjected to that God , yes or no
if Jesus has a God, how can He then be almighty God ?

2. on April 27 jEphz
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.
NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"

who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?
you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response

solite3, pls respond to these post if you can( it was posted on may 28, 1: 17pm)

The first verse of Revelation had set a precedent for you to use to examine the whole book, it tells you that "God gave Jesus" the revelation , God did not give himself, Jesus did not give himself, it was God who have Jesus the Revelation. God ( in the book of revelation)and Jesus are not the same person!
verse 4-6 also clears who is who in the Book of revaluation, it helps us to understand that the one who is, who was, and who is coming is different from Jesus Christ.
brocab says it's Jesus, you say it's the father, yet you refuse to discuss and tell the whole world who is right and who is wrong!
to make sure that you dnt confuse yourself on who the al mighty God is, Jesus told you severaly in that book that he has a God! , using the words " my God " several times in that book. I ve several times asked if the almighty can have a god superior to him, cus Jesus had now indicated when he was in heaven, when he came to earth, and when he back in heaven that he has a God! he did not just call that God "a God ", he said "my God", "your god" , "the only true god".

All this facts are presented to you in the Book of Revelation, you could not discuss any of them, but you choose to believe a verse from the Textus Receptus that you can't defend, that you can't show where the Textus Receptus got it from! that majority of scholars have shown to be spurious, that can't be found even in translations of the authors that surpport trinity.
lastly, even if you would not answer the questions being posted to you several times , pls can you tell us the name of your church or organization you associate with at the moment?[/b]

Jozzy4:
Only a deceiver will say the Word ( Jesus christ ) is Gods spirit. False teacher

Jozzy4:
The holyspirit was personified in those scriptures man.

@ Numbers 11:17,, the holyspirit is identified as " IT " so get sense.

Jozzy4:
The holyspirit was personified in those scriptures man.

@ Numbers 11:17,, the holyspirit is identified as " IT " so get sense.