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Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m): 10:38am On Jun 21, 2016
captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.
You are really gulliable.what a stupid and senseless writeup.
Show me evidence for Evolution.
Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m): 10:39am On Jun 21, 2016
captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.
A major issue of contention between Christains
and Scientists ,has been, that of the age of the
Universe .most Christains believe that world is
6000yrs old .as calculated by Arch Bishop James
Ussher. his calculation were based on when
Adam and Eve were created .while Scientist using
mordern dating technology believe the world is
over 17Billion years old.both groups are partly
right.
The Bible revels many important facts about a
subject .if one reads all scriptures that pertain to
it.using the various bible verses on this subject
,will help us to understand the truth about the
age of the Universe and the greatness of its
maker,God.
Genesis1:1-31 The First chapter of genesis
contains the primary creation account in Bible
but their are other scriptures in the Bible which
add important information about the creation of
the orignal Earth. that were not included in the
genesis account.
In Job38.
God is speaking to an afflicted man named Job
about many aspects of what
God did when He first created the earth and
the entire Universe. He says to Job: “Where
were you when I laid the foundations of the
earth?…Who laid the measures thereof?…
Whereupon are the foundations thereof
fastened? Or who laid the corner stone
thereof; when the morning stars sang
together, and all the sons of God shouted for
joy?” God speaks of making the clouds in
verse 9, setting the boundaries of the oceans
in verses 8-12, and and there is a reference to
polar icecaps in verses 29-30 where the “waters”
of “the deep” are “frozen.” In verse 33, God asks
Job if he knows about the “ordinances” (laws) of
heaven? In other words, God asks Job if he knows
about the laws of the Universe which govern its
movements and its composition.
In Isaiah 45, God also makes references to the
time when he first made the heavens and the
earth. In verses 12 and 18, God states: “I have
made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even
my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and
all their host have I commanded…For thus says
the LORD who created the heavens: God himself
that formed the earth and made it… he created it
not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited; I am the
LORD; and there is none else.” [Emphasis added.]
Notice that while this verse asserts God made the
heavens and the earth and created man upon that
earth, God does not state that he “made mankind
on the earth” as soon as the earth was created.
These “stars” were angels (Rev. 12:4), also
described as “sons of God.” (Of course, literal
stars do not sing.) Notice that it says “all” of them
“shouted” and “sang together.” There were not yet
demons at the time of creation in Job38.
This scripture shows that the earth was created in
a wonderful and beautiful condition. There was
great joy and singing. Now read Genesis 1:2.
This verse is mistranslated and does not reflect
the meaning of the original Hebrew. The King
James Version of the Bible says, “And the earth
was without form, and void.” Three key Hebrew
words are all mistranslated here, thus obscuring,
and actually hiding, the verse’s true meaning.
The word translated “was” is hayah. The words for
“without form, and void” are tohu
and bohu. Correctly translated, they mean
“chaotic, in confusion, waste and empty.” In
short, a perfectly created earth ( vs. 1), “became
chaotic and confused” (vs. 2). Tohu and bohu are
translated identically in Jeremiah 4:23. Isaiah
34:11, among other places, translates this phrase
as “confusion and emptiness.”
It is evident that at some point after the
heavenly beings shouted for joy when God
first made the earth “to be inhabited,” God
delegated to Lucifer and his complement of
angels the supervision of the physical earth.
The earth was their place of “habitation.”
When Lucifer later rebelled by leaving his
place of habitation to ascend to heaven in a
rebellion to dethrone God, Lucifer was
defeated and hurled back down to their
proper place of “habitation.” Jesus Christ
stated in Luke 10:18 that he had seen
Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Jesus
had to be referring to his own pre-existent
Divine state (John 1:1-3 , 10-14 , 17:5
, Philippians 2:5-11 ) when he saw
Satan hurled down to the earth. Since the
pre-existent Jesus was the one who “made
all things” in the first place (John 1:1-3 ),
he very likely was the one who threw Lucifer
(later called “Satan”) back to his original
place of habitation.
However, the beautiful earth that God
originally made to be inhabited by Lucifer and
many angels was destroyed in the course of
this heavenly warfare. Jude 6 records that
Satan and the angels who left their proper
place of habitation were placed in “chains
under darkness .” Jude 13 likens them to
“wandering stars” amidst the “raging waves
of the sea , foaming out their own shame.”
This post-rebellion state of the earth (with
raging waves and darkness) sounds exactly as the
state of the earth in Genesis1:1
Conclusion
God made a beautiful and perfect Earth and
Universe Billions of years ago.that Earth was
destoryed when Satan and his angels who
rebelled against God .were thrown out of heaven
to earth. the creation account in Genesis 1. is
were God restored the earth.this is also
confirmed by Psalm 104:30
(Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created:
and thou renewest the face of the earth.)
says God renew the Earth.
The seven days of the creation week
are when God renewed a damaged, injured earth
then completely covered with water (Gen. 1:2)
So Man has been on earth for about 6000yrs as
accounted by christains.but the Earth and the
Universe were made by God almightly billions of
years ago before man was created.
God: General over all Dominion
Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m):
captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.
If God is dead .do you think you be able to sleep and wakeup. i mean if the source of life is dead .how come we have life?
Secondly the raising and falling of the Sun,Moon ,Tides and movement of the seas, waves,wind and Seasons are all evidence that God is an ever living God. if God is dead then their would have been total Chaos.Life would have been unbearable if human beings eventually survive.
Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m): 11:09am On Jun 21, 2016
LordCenturion:
U and ur wahala, that's why Africans can never reason or develop, thanks that Bible always say god of Israel, not God of the world,killing other tribe and country for Isreal, definitely he isn't the God of those innocent people he asked Joshua to kill, asked them to kill innocent people including their babies and animals despite their pleading, at the end of the day, his own people still killed Jesus, and besides how many people of so call Israel believe in him today?, wen I checked Israeli flag, I suppose to see cross (like British) or sign that relate to god or jesus, but they use something like Satan sign on their flag ,definitely he is a blind and dead God who can't see the future, he is a false God,he gives excuses for not answering prayer.. can u just read ur Bible clearly and see the errors inthere, by the way, who ask u to quote Bible here, please just keep ur mouth shut if u don't have sensible things to say and stop threatened people here
Clown you are so Dumb, that you don't know how Dumb you are. the Bible is so simple and consistent. but it is a mystery to fools who cannot comprehend it.

Which Isreal ? this present Isreal is a Scam.
The true isrealities have been spread all over the world as prophised by God.with their identity hidden .but clearly known by those who understand Bible prophecies.
God used Isreal to destroy wicked people and nations in the Bible.same thing he did to isreal when they sinned against him.
Every Nation had several gods who lead them in battle .most kings bragged of their gods and their conquest. that of Isreal was the Supreme God who gave them ,far more victory ,than other gods did to other nations. what isreal did to other nations was not perculiar to isreal. all nations fought and killed people during that period.including women and children.

Your inability to make rational and logical arguments shows you are Naive and lack facts and knownledge of history.
Re: God Is Dead by LordCenturion(m): 2:19pm On Jun 21, 2016
blueAgent:
Clown you are so Dumb, that you don't know how Dumb you are. the Bible is so simple and consistent. but it is a mystery to fools who cannot comprehend it.

Which Isreal ? this present Isreal is a Scam.
The true isrealities have been spread all over the world as prophised by God.with their identity hidden .but clearly known by those who understand Bible prophecies.
God used Isreal to destroy wicked people and nations in the Bible.same thing he did to isreal when they sinned against him.
Every Nation had several gods who lead them in battle .most kings bragged of their gods and their conquest. that of Isreal was the Supreme God who gave them ,far more victory ,than other gods did to other nations. what isreal did to other nations was not perculiar to isreal. all nations fought and killed people during that period.including women and children.

Your inability to make rational and logical arguments shows you are Naive and lack facts and knownledge of history.
Thank u Mr knowledgeable, how market?, please stop shouting because u will remain blind forever
Re: God Is Dead by LordCenturion(m): 3:52pm On Jun 21, 2016
blueAgent:
Clown you are so Dumb, that you don't know how Dumb you are. the Bible is so simple and consistent. but it is a mystery to fools who cannot comprehend it.

Which Isreal ? this present Isreal is a Scam.
The true isrealities have been spread all over the world as prophised by God.with their identity hidden .but clearly known by those who understand Bible prophecies.
God used Isreal to destroy wicked people and nations in the Bible.same thing he did to isreal when they sinned against him.
Every Nation had several gods who lead them in battle .most kings bragged of their gods and their conquest. that of Isreal was the Supreme God who gave them ,far more victory ,than other gods did to other nations. what isreal did to other nations was not perculiar to isreal. all nations fought and killed people during that period.including women and children.

Your inability to make rational and logical arguments shows you are Naive and lack facts and knownledge of history.
Thank u Mr knowledgeable, how market?, please stop shouting because u will remain blind forever
Re: God Is Dead by youngestland: 5:09pm On Jun 21, 2016
blueAgent:
Clown you are so Dumb, that you don't know how Dumb you are. the Bible is so simple and consistent. but it is a mystery to fools who cannot comprehend it.
Which Isreal ? this present Isreal is a Scam.
The true isrealities have been spread all over the world as prophised by God.with their identity hidden .but clearly known by those who understand Bible prophecies.
God used Isreal to destroy wicked people and nations in the Bible.same thing he did to isreal when they sinned against him.
Every Nation had several gods who lead them in battle .most kings bragged of their gods and their conquest. that of Isreal was the Supreme God who gave them ,far more victory ,than other gods did to other nations. what isreal did to other nations was not perculiar to isreal. all nations fought and killed people during that period.including women and children.
Your inability to make rational and logical arguments shows you are Naive and lack facts and knownledge of history.
I salute you bros
please make yourself a good cup of cofee and read your post s l o w l y this time.
am sure you would not call someone dumb again
Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m): 8:51am On Jun 26, 2016
youngestland:
I salute you bros
please make yourself a good cup of cofee and read your post s l o w l y this time.
am sure you would not call someone dumb again
I never expected such a response from someone who is so sure that God does not exist. I guess it is an easier way to hide the shame and avoid further upsets. i like your courage
Re: God Is Dead by blueAgent(m): 8:55am On Jun 26, 2016
LordCenturion:
Thank u Mr knowledgeable, how market?, please stop shouting because u will remain blind forever
You seems to see properly. i guess you can prove God does not exist. even as you can prove your date of birth beyond what your birth cerftificate and parents told you,Clown.

It has beensaid, “there is none so blind as he who refuses to see.” If people refuse to accept
proof—evidence— truth—of the existence of
God, there is absolutely nothing that can be
said to erase their willful blindness.

Remember, only the “fool has said in his
heart, There is no God.”
Re: God Is Dead by GodnGold: 9:21am On Jun 26, 2016
Nakwanu e check ooooo!!!
Re: God Is Dead by LordCenturion(m): 9:22am On Jun 26, 2016
blueAgent:
You seems to see properly. i guess you can prove God does not exist. even as you can prove your date of birth beyond what your birth cerftificate and parents told you,Clown.

It has beensaid, “there is none so blind as he who refuses to see.” If people refuse to accept
proof—evidence— truth—of the existence of
God, there is absolutely nothing that can be
said to erase their willful blindness.

Remember, only the “fool has said in his
heart, There is no God.”
I can see that u are blind with ur myopic brain, who told u that there is no God, there are thousands of gods,I can't argue with u because I have more knowledge and mature than u
Re: God Is Dead by telleyway: 3:16pm On Jun 26, 2016
captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.
Let me take you by your analysis.
First, if there is no God in the first place, how come you are saying is dead? If there is no creation, how come the half life, because anything with a life span must have a beginning.
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