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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:32am On Jun 20, 2016
I Am. I and the Father are One-is enough evidence we need-Did Jesus ever say He is the Son of God, without trying to prove a point In {John 10:34-36}
johnw74:

Did Jesus Ever Say He was God?

Jesus quotes - is Jesus God? Investigate these interesting claims...

Others were convinced that Jesus was God:
Paul: "Christ is the visible image of the invisible God."1
John: "He existed in the beginning with God."2
Peter: "you must worship Christ as Lord of your life."3

But what did Jesus say about himself?

Did he ever identify himself as God? According to the Bible...absolutely! Below are some of the statements he made.

continue a good read : http://www.everystudent.com/wires/whodoyousay.html
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:45am On Jun 20, 2016
Christians read the Bible to get their belief.

false jw write their bible according to their man made beliefs from watch tower etc.


Bad Translations of the supposed Jehovah's Witness Bible, the New World Translation:


In Genesis 1:1-2 they have changed the correct translation of " . . . the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters," to say " . . . and God's active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."

They took out "Spirit of God" and put in "God's active force", because they don't believe that the Holy Spirit is alive.




In John 1:1 ...."and the Word was God, " false jw changed to, " and the Word was a god."
so as to deny the truth of Jesus being God.




Changing, taking away from, and adding to God's inspired word is truly an evil thing, and of course is from satan.

everything about false jw is false:

a false jehovah

a false jesus

a false holy spirit

a false bible

etc.


Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

false jw add to His words, and He reproves them, and they are constantly being found liars.

read about it here: http://carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/bad-translations-jehovahs-witness-bible-new-world-translation

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 1:43pm On Jun 20, 2016
solite3:
buhahahahaha. You are a comedian sir.I once again salute your reasoning. Idolatry is more than worshipping idols. You made my day
grin
Idolatry includes the veneration, love, worship, adoration of an Idol sir, it's just not worship !

@ bold how do you no they are false gods after all God called them gods
I never told you that sun moon and stars are also called heavenly host but angels and demons are also called hosts of heaven.
I kings 22 :19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the words of the Lord : I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and[b] all the hosts of heaven [/b]standing by him on his right hand and on his left hand

1. Zep 1:4, 5“I will stretch out my hand against Judah And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, And I will wipe out from this place every vestige of Baʹal, The name of the foreign-god priests along with the priests,
5 And those who bow down on the rooftops to the army of the heavens, And those who bow down and pledge loyalty to Jehovah While pledging loyalty to Malʹcam;


I know they are false gods cus the scriptures explained to me how to identify false god, and they fall under that category ! or do you not agree with me that they are false gods !
Malʹcam is a principal Idol god of the ammonites, the scriptures let's us know how worthless they are , so they are false!
King James Version
Zec 10:2For the idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie, and have told false dreams; they comfort in vain: therefore they went their way as a flock, they were troubled, because there was no shepherd.


2. you said" I never told you that sun moon and stars are also called heavenly host but angels and demons are also called hosts of heaven". now please tell , are the sun and moon and stars and other things in the heavens also called host of heaven?

3.you quoted 1 kings 22: 19, I hope you do that for all the scriptures you mentioned, angels are called host of heaven, now do the isrea lites worship angels, the answer is no , now are heavenly objects called the host of heaven, the answer is yes, therefore when the scriptures says the isrealities worship All THE HOSTS of heaven, why don't you think it includes the heavenly objects!
Remember , my problem with you as stated initially is your desire to only link "host of heaven " to angels and demons.

pls read my post again:
"you can see that the isrealites pratIced all kinds of false worship , there are those who bowed to baal, there also those who bow down to the hosts of heaven, the moon and the sun and stars, and there are those who try to pledge loyalty to god and a false god at the same time.
look again at Gods command and tell if God is not referring to the things in the heavens.
King James Version
De 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
what did Jehovah say they see when they lift their eyes up to heaven? The sun moon and stars and all the host of heaven, if you look up to the heavens , do you not see this things?
Are those things demons? no!"

please show me where I said such
I never said you said such, I'm asking you a question which I want you to answer!
Jehovah said those those things are in heaven, are demons in heaven?

every knows you as the one making very false claims
@ bold you are shifting ground small small.
I have never said anything different from what I've said before

why do think the bible mention heaven first before earth?
because, there is no way you can mention both together!
saying " Peter and paul" does not mean Peter is first before Paul or does it?

your ignorance stinks. I bet the sun and the stars were created along with the earth.
Gen 1:14 And God said, let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night: let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and for years:
and the sun and stars are not part of heaven that was created in the beginning?

hahaha. Angels rejects worship or obesiance but demons accept it.
Go and read 1kings 22:14-22. Also read Job 1:6
1. that angels do not accept worship does not mean they can't be worshipped sir!
2. you need to explain how you came about the belief that demons are in the physical heaven.

y don't you respond to the issue that Christians will be given the morning stars. Does that mean they will become angels
this was not what you said initially you, you altered the bible verse when you refused to quote it, stop lying against the scripture.
You want to discuss morning star , but you refused to answer the question:
the word morning stars, do you know where Jesus called himself such?

solite3, you deliberately removed or refused to respond to this:

1. you deliberately ommited this one , you sad: "is it the father that came to this earth."
I replied:
no, but someone has said Jesus is the father, do you know who said so? I bet you know, but you can't fit mention!

2. well everyone can see you could not respond or explain the scriptures quoted to to the scriptures, I'll just point it to you again:
Joh 17:26 you where afraid to quote and explain these verse, expecially the underlined
solite3, if you are a truth full person, pls explain the verse above!
you could also not respond to this :
did it say god exalted himself,? no!
did it say Jesus exalted himself ? no !
Did that verse imply that that the one who was exalted is same as one doing the exalting? no!
therefore , "God ", reffered to In those verses is not Jesus.!
Isa 52:13 Look! My servant will act with insight. He will be raised up high, He will be elevated and greatly exalted
Ac 2:32, 33
you are a bad person solite3, for this what God wanted with his name :
1Ki 8:60
Eze 36:23
Eze 39:7




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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 2:21pm On Jun 20, 2016
brocab:
How funny does this sound" Are you serious, you can't believe Paul not only was he a man he also was filled with the Spirit of God-don't you know anything about Christ.
pls state where I said or implied that I don't believe Paul o! or where I said he does not have the spirit of God in him!

Christ didn't work alone-No flesh can raise the dead, heal the sick, but the Spirit can. Jesus needed the Spirit of God to pull off such miracles?
is this a question or a statement.

This same Holy Spirit that Jesus had, He gave to His disciples, His disciples couldn't pull off a stunt in their flesh alone-they were given a gift from God to be partakers of the divine nature, and it's the Spirit who can raise the dead.
I've just explained to you when one will share in the divine nature, it occurs when the promise is being fufilled, when you have excaped curruption!

Christ is the divine, the Father and the Holy Spirit are divine-No-one can pull off such stunts without being a partaker of their divine nature.
the above is a lie!

Jesus said Go out unto the world and baptise them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy spirit-this is the keys to retrieve such nature. Their isn't another way into heaven, becoming born again is your only chance to enter into the kingdom of God.
when you have the holy spirit, you have a chance to enter the kingdom of God, but it is only when you enter that Kingdom that you leave your fleshly nature and put on a divine nature , thus being sharers of the divine nature with Christ.
you can't have two nature's at the same time!

Dolphinheart It seems you must enjoy making some kind of a mockery out of yourself-this is insane, the scriptures are so clear, that it doesn't need rocket science to work out what Jesus had said.
Are you listening to yourself, no wonder you can't accept Christ into your life-you don't even believe in Him well enough, to even understand Jesus couldn't do these miracles on His own accord He needed the Spirit of God to give Him the power to pull this off.
haha!, your fully god does not have power now abi!. you are just restating what what I've been telling you, but still in a wrong way.
where does the holy spirit cone from? it comes from the father!. so was it the holy spirit that gave Jesus power ? no ! it was the father that gave Jesus power through the holy spirit

King James Version
Ac 10:38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Isa 11:2And the spirit of Jehovah will settle upon him, The spirit of wisdom and of understanding, The spirit of counsel and of mightiness, The spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.

Isa 42:1Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.

Isa 61:1The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,

Mt 3:16After being baptized, Jesus immediately came up from the water; and look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw God’s spirit descending like a dove and coming upon him.


His Disciples needed the Spirit of God, no-one can raise the dead without Jesus's divine name mentioned.
that is a lie, the prophets did not use Jesus name to raise the dead!

{1 Corinthians 2:14} The person without the Spirit can-not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, but considers them foolishness.
{Romans 8:5} Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires.
{Galatians 5:16} So I say walk by the Spirit, and shall not fill the lust of the flesh.
Those who have accepted Christ and becoming a born again Christian are saved, Paul like the rest of us {Ephesians 6:12} War against flesh and blood, against the Principalities, against powers and against the rulers of the darkness of this age.
they had the spirit of God, but they where still in the flesh, the spirit is what assures themy that the promise will be fufilled.

Do you even know what this verse is telling you.
And going by Dolphinheart's description, he believes Paul wasn't filled with the Spirit of God, meaning to say Jesus disciples could raise the dead, heal the sick, and the blind now see, all in the name of their own flesh.
stop lying against me, where did I say or implied such!

Peter said silver and Gold I do not have, but what I have, I give to you, in the name of Jesus stand up and walk.
No-one can do such miracles without having the power-and this power can only come from the Christ Himself, Jesus's disciples couldn't heal the sick raise the dead, unless they had the Spirit of God to give them that power, this same power Jesus formed miracles, He was alive, He was dead, and look He is alive forevermore.

No man in the flesh can raise Himself up-and sit at God's right side, it's He's name that stands above any other name-healing the sick raising the dead, the blind now see, all in the name of Jesus. {No one can raise up anyone in the name Jehovah}
Peter did not say in his own name get up and walk, he said in Jesus's name get up and walk.
This is the divine that has the power, to do such miracles dolphinheart. The flesh alone can-not heal others unless one is a partaker of the divine nature to do so...

bolded is wrong!, if you had accepted the scriptures I quoted to you , you would have understood, but you could never quote and explain them!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:12pm On Jun 20, 2016
BROCAB, HOPE YOU HAVE STOPPED THAT DISGRACEFUL ACT OF FORGERY , IT IS NOT A GOOD THING. ONE HAS TO CHECK HIS POST YOU QUOTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD NOT FORGED IT!

brocab:
Don't we love the way you miss quote scriptures, What were the customs dolphinheart?
Why did Jesus say to Peter whom do the kings of the earth take customs or taxes from strangers, or from their sons, Peter answered from Strangers, Jesus said: then the Sons are free. I bet you don't even know what Jesus meant by these verses.
The answer is no I don't pay tithes.

the customs here are taxes collected from the Jews . This tax are payed to the temple, it is not the Same as tithe payed by the Jews.

ex 30: 12-16 “Whenever you take a census and count the sons of Israel, each one must give a ransom for his life to Jehovah at the time of the census. This is so that no plague may be brought upon them when they are registered.
13. This is what all those who are registered will give: a half shekel by the standard shekel of the holy place. Twenty geʹrahs equal a shekel. A half shekel is the contribution to Jehovah.
14. Everyone registered who is 20 years old and up will give Jehovah’s contribution.
15. The rich should not give more and the poor should not give less than the half shekel as a contribution to Jehovah to make atonement for your lives.
16You are to take the silver money of the atonement from the Israelites and give it in behalf of the service of the tent of meeting, that it may serve as a remembrance before Jehovah for the Israelites, to make atonement for your lives.”

this is different frome tithe , notice verse 15, same amount is collected from everyone, which is not possible with tithe.

It appears that it became customary for the Jews to give a fixed amount every year, even though a census was not taken annually. Jehoash, for example, called for “the sacred tax ordered by Moses.”- 2 Chr 24: 6,9. The Jews of Nehemiah’s time obligated themselves to pay a third of a shekel yearly for the service of the temple.— neh 10:32
In the time of Jesus’ earthly ministry, the Jews paid two drachmas to the temple. When asked whether Jesus complied with this taxation, Peter replied in the affirmative. Later, in discussing the matter, Jesus pointed out that kings do not tax their sons, the sons being part of the royal household for whom tax is collected. However, though being the only-begotten Son of the One worshiped at the temple, Jesus, to avoid giving occasion for stumbling others, saw to it that the tax was paid.
Therefore brocad, the issue is not about tithe, it is about tax, a fixed amount of money payed to the temple by the Jews every year.

If you knew the Christ like you say you do" by your fruit 'we will recognise you. But we Christians don't..
continue propping yourself up everytime.

And since you believe you know all the answers, then at least answer this>If the Sabbath was part of the Mosaic law and it was ruled out by Jesus. Then who changed the law and gave a new commandment to worship on Sunday-that all Churches may follow
Come on dolphinheart this is an easy one to answer.
1. I do not know all the answers, stop lying against me brocab!
2. The mosaic law was ruled out?, do you even know the scriptures at all?
3. your question is faulty, the law was not changed !
4. I have never at any point said someone gave a law or commandment to worship on Sundays and all churches may follow!
you are the one having such thoughts running in your mind, but you refused to show us where such law came from, or how it affects dolphinheart.
several times Ive asked you if god gave or the scriptures mentioned a day for Christians to worship or if Christians are to worship only on one day of the week . This two questions you refused to address or answer!

color=#000099]Is this really true-JW's twist and turn the scriptures, leaving half what is written out from the verses. Just to prove a senseless point.[/color]
Cant you read the scriptures yourself, is it because your afraid to admit it was Your ancestors the pharisees that accused Jesus for breaking the rules, Only because Jesus performed miracles of healing on the Sabbath, {Matthew 2:10, Mark 3:2, John 9 14-16} John records that Jesus performed a healing during one of the festivals in Jerusalem. John's gospel records what happen next, when Jesus confronted His accusers: Jesus answered them" My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.' Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, Because He not only broke the Sabbath, but He also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God" {John 5:17-18} [/u]From this, many assume that your ancestors the Pharisees accusation-that Jesus broke the Sabbath-was correct.[/u]
LIKE THE PHARISEES YOU TOO ASSUME THAT JESUS BROKE THE SABBATH RULES. THAT SAME WRONG ASSUMPTIONS OF THE PHARISEES EXIST IN YOU, FOR YOU BELIEVE JESUS BROKE THE SABBATH RULES!

your words again :
.
{Before we continual with the Sabbath Jesus broke the Sabbath rules-Jesus healed a mans hand, and it was your own countrymen the Pharisees who tried to make a mockery out of Jesus doing good.
you yourself said Jesus broke the Sabbath rules.

Scriptures also records that Jesus disciples were walking through a field on the Sabbath plucking and ate heads of grain; seeing this some pharisees asked them, "why are you doing that, when it is not lawful to do on the Sabbath {Luke 6:2} Again many accept that the pharisees accusation is correct, and by their actions Jesus and His Disciples did not Keep the Sabbath.
BROCAB, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT THE PHARISEES ACCUSATION IS CORRECT?

Do we go on dolphinheart about this point made, and why is it always to much for you to study up the scriptures yourself, and see why your ancestors accused Jesus for breaking the Sabbath?
You JW'S do believe in the word of God Don't you?

this are the points I made which you refused to respond to
1. hope the info will include how you came about sabbath sartu r day, and how Christians are to worship on sabbath sartuday!

2. as a Christian, what day did the scriptures tell you to worship !

3. pls, include birthday to this pagan influenced doctrine o!

4. you have once again failed to quote and explain this scriptures :

[b]Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1Jo 5:20But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting
1Co 1:3May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 8:5For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,”
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
brocab, my god is not unknown, he is the god of Jesus, the father, the almighty God, Jehovah![/b]

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:27pm On Jun 20, 2016
brocab:
What is the Sabbath?
you brought up the issue of sabbath, so pls tell us what sabbath is, pls also tell us the day it is observed !

And why did people come together and gathered on the Sabbath dolphinheart? Why was the Sabbath day kept to rest and worship. {Exodus 20:8} dolphinheart?
it is you that should tell us that! You mentioned the sabbath, yet you know little about it!

Tell us Who can change what God had made, who has this power to change the gathering together of people to meet on the Sun-day dolphinheart "You"?
pls what day did they I change o!
where did you read that Christians are supposed to gather on one day of the week and that day of the week has been changed by dolphinheart ?

When in scriptures tells us who is Lord of the Sabbath. Not Lord of Sun-day worship.
good you noticed.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:00pm On Jun 20, 2016
Don't we all love the JW's?
Again you have twisted everything, I had said-I answered you question the answer was I don't tithe, and you had given me, a mean less quotation about the shekels.
Customs or taxes were under that same Mosaic law-it was Israels Custom to either tithe or pay Taxes it was under their law.
{2 Genesis 14:20} It was a Custom to pay tithes and taxes and Moses paid that Custom and Tax.
Tithing was not a Tax-as many call it to be.
Jesus asked that question to Peter whom do the Customs OR Taxes be paid too the Kings of the world, from Strangers or from their own Sons. Peter said from Strangers, then Jesus said then the Sons are free.
Meaning the Sons don't pay either way-and it was a law to pay those shekels in {Exodus 30:12-16} of Taxes and Customs back then.
So dolphinheart don't answer unless you can come up with the right answers, I am tried trying to explain to you all the answers that you refuse to answer too, and then have the cheek denying I didn't reply back to you. All us Christians know you are a liar and a cheat-We all know the truth dolphinheart you read them, and then you go into hiding-refusing to answer them-only because our answers are written from the truth. So until you fill you do understand my page fully, then have the balls to be truthful, and reply back. You judge mental man "you are.
And your Quote is "Your question is faulty the law was not changed!
Think dolphinheart just ask yourself {if you can} this question why do you meet up with all you fellow JW's and all gather together in one place of worship on the Sunday, instead of the Sabbath Saturday, if the law was not changed?
Every 613 commandments made were Gods laws.
dolphinheart:
BROCAB, HOPE YOU HAVE STOPPED THAT DISGRACEFUL ACT OF FORGERY , IT IS NOT A GOOD THING. ONE HAS TO CHECK HIS POST YOU QUOTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD NOT FORGED IT!



the customs here are taxes collected from the Jews . This tax are payed to the temple, it is not the Same as tithe payed by the Jews.

ex 30: 12-16 “Whenever you take a census and count the sons of Israel, each one must give a ransom for his life to Jehovah at the time of the census. This is so that no plague may be brought upon them when they are registered.
13. This is what all those who are registered will give: a half shekel by the standard shekel of the holy place. Twenty geʹrahs equal a shekel. A half shekel is the contribution to Jehovah.
14. Everyone registered who is 20 years old and up will give Jehovah’s contribution.
15. The rich should not give more and the poor should not give less than the half shekel as a contribution to Jehovah to make atonement for your lives.
16You are to take the silver money of the atonement from the Israelites and give it in behalf of the service of the tent of meeting, that it may serve as a remembrance before Jehovah for the Israelites, to make atonement for your lives.”

this is different frome tithe , notice verse 15, same amount is collected from everyone, which is not possible with tithe.

It appears that it became customary for the Jews to give a fixed amount every year, even though a census was not taken annually. Jehoash, for example, called for “the sacred tax ordered by Moses.”- 2 Chr 24: 6,9. The Jews of Nehemiah’s time obligated themselves to pay a third of a shekel yearly for the service of the temple.— neh 10:32
In the time of Jesus’ earthly ministry, the Jews paid two drachmas to the temple. When asked whether Jesus complied with this taxation, Peter replied in the affirmative. Later, in discussing the matter, Jesus pointed out that kings do not tax their sons, the sons being part of the royal household for whom tax is collected. However, though being the only-begotten Son of the One worshiped at the temple, Jesus, to avoid giving occasion for stumbling others, saw to it that the tax was paid.
Therefore brocad, the issue is not about tithe, it is about tax, a fixed amount of money payed to the temple by the Jews every year.


continue propping yourself up everytime.


1. I do not know all the answers, stop lying against me brocab!
2. The mosaic law was ruled out?, do you even know the scriptures at all?
3. your question is faulty, the law was not changed !
4. I have never at any point said someone gave a law or commandment to worship on Sundays and all churches may follow!
you are the one having such thoughts running in your mind, but you refused to show us where such law came from, or how it affects dolphinheart.
several times Ive asked you if god gave or the scriptures mentioned a day for Christians to worship or if Christians are to worship only on one day of the week . This two questions you refused to address or answer!


LIKE THE PHARISEES YOU TOO ASSUME THAT JESUS BROKE THE SABBATH RULES. THAT SAME WRONG ASSUMPTIONS OF THE PHARISEES EXIST IN YOU, FOR YOU BELIEVE JESUS BROKE THE SABBATH RULES!

your words again :

you yourself said Jesus broke the Sabbath rules.


BROCAB, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT THE PHARISEES ACCUSATION IS CORRECT?



this are the points I made which you refused to respond to
1. hope the info will include how you came about sabbath sartu r day, and how Christians are to worship on sabbath sartuday!

2. as a Christian, what day did the scriptures tell you to worship !

3. pls, include birthday to this pagan influenced doctrine o!

4. you have once again failed to quote and explain this scriptures :

[b]Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1Jo 5:20But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting
1Co 1:3May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 8:5For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,”
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
brocab, my god is not unknown, he is the god of Jesus, the father, the almighty God, Jehovah![/b]
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:55pm On Jun 20, 2016
What is the Sabbath? It is a day of rest and worship.
If you had the balls to search the net, you will find the Catholic Church had admitted they were the ones who changed the Sabbath day of the week into the Sunday.

God said keep the Sabbath Holy. {Exodus 20:8}
In Isaiah :We read" It shall come to pass that from one moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come and worship before "Me" Says the Lord {Isaiah 66:23} This is speaking of worship in eternity, but God specifically mentions the Sabbath and coming together for worship in this passage.
"Then they entered into Capernaum and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the synagogue and taught {Mark 1:21} "When the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue, and many hearing Him were astonished, saying, where did this man get these things? And what wisdom is this given to Him, that such mighty works are performed by His hands. {Mark 5:2} "So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up, And as His CUSTOM WAS, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up and read {Luke 6:6}
So you see dolphinheart it was a Custom in those days to meet on the Sabbath day. Even His disciples also followed the example of Jesus, as we can see in the book of {Acts 13:14}
When the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them on the next Sabbath {Acts 13:42} "He reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath and persuaded Jews and Greeks {Acts 18:4}
These scriptures are referring to Church services, where people gather together on the Sabbath day.
Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man {Mark 2:27} Jesus and His disciples worshipped every Sabbath not because they were Jews but because the were human beings.
dolphinheart:

you brought up the issue of sabbath, so pls tell us what sabbath is, pls also tell us the day it is observed !


it is you that should tell us that! You mentioned the sabbath, yet you know little about it!


pls what day did they I change o!
where did you read that Christians are supposed to gather on one day of the week and that day of the week has been changed by dolphinheart ?


good you noticed.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:46am On Jun 21, 2016
Lie Lie dolphinheart

More on the sect that call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses

Former Jehovah's Witness Testimony
Adrian
I am an ex Jehovah's Witness Who was Born Into The JWs


My name is Adrian. I am an ex Jehovah's Witness now serving God in faith and truth from my heart, drawn towards God because of a love for Him owed to the fact He loved me first.

I was born into the JW religion/cult, but as I grew older my family left them.unam sanctam ex cathedra As the years went by I met, who is now my wife, Lynn. The JW’s were frequenting her mother’s house and my friends house. Hence, I got drawn back into the only way of serving God I knew. An avid reader and very studios person by nature, when I do something I do it right or not all. I began to read the very old JW literature by Rutherford and Charles Taze Russell.

I began to find some very unusual thoughts and beginnings to “God’s chosen mouthpiece on earth,” which I tried not to dwell on too much assuring myself I was with God’s chosen people. What I noticed was:

● The date for the fall of Babylon etc. was understood by Charles Taze Russell by measuring a pyramid! (Incidentally, his grave is indeed a pyramid.)

● Russell also taught leviathan is a locomotive and

● God lives on a star with the angels.


continued here: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/adrianxjw.htm

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:07am On Jun 21, 2016
Also from Adrian in above link:

● They (jw's) do not and will not worship Jesus Christ as Lord, when this is clearly presented in scripture

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/worshipJesus.htm

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:08am On Jun 21, 2016
1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


No one can say that Jesus is God but by the Holy Ghost


Lord
G2962

κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.
Total KJV occurrences: 748

Many would appreciate that it wouldn't take the Holy Ghost to call Jesus, Mr, master, or sir,
but to say He is God, does take the Holy Ghost.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:00am On Jun 21, 2016
And this is why the JW's cant say Jesus Christ is Lord-because the JW's are not born again Christians, and are not filled with the Holy Spirit as a witness, to say they are saved.
johnw74:

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


No one can say that Jesus is God but by the Holy Ghost


Lord
G2962

κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.
Total KJV occurrences: 748

Many would appreciate that it wouldn't take the Holy Ghost to call Jesus, Mr, master, or sir,
but to know He is God, supreme in authority, does take the Holy Ghost.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:26am On Jun 21, 2016
Dolphinheart quote is> pls state where I said or implied that I don't believe Paul o! or where I said he does not have the Spirit of God in him!
Is this a miss print? JW's don't believe in the Spirit of God, as I recall the JW's believe the Holy Spirit is an active force.
The answer to the above question? "When you denied Paul wasn't a partaker of the divine nature, before He died.
Christ said we are in Him, and He is in us, we are branches in the vine, We are all members in one body, we are one Spirit in the Lord.
If you were a Christian you would know this. But you don't.
Matter of fact you aren't even saved, dolphinheart repent before its to late, if you don't you will end up in Hell fire with all your ancestors who have gone before you' don't be a fool turn from your evil ways, and ask the Lord for your forgiveness, Jesus is the only One who can forgive sins.
God raised the dead through the prophets? Not the prophets in the flesh raised the dead.
{1 kings 17:17-24} The widow of Zarephath's son, Elijah took the boy from her arms, and went into the upper room, and PRAYED "LORD MY GOD let this boy's life return to him.
Faithful men and women of God in the Old Testament and the New Testament were given this same gift the disciples had while raising the dead. O/T In the name of the Lord-N/T in the name of the Lord Jesus. Same name, different time flames.
They are all partakers of the divine nature.
Of course the disciples were flesh, Elijah was in the flesh-Jesus came to earth as a man-he suffered in the flesh-but Jesus is divine, and His disciples like Elijah were partakers of the divine nature. Both in different time flames, Old and New Testaments both believers prayed to the Lord, for all healing's.
And everyone in this day and age who decides to become a born again Christian, Jesus had made away for us to be partakers of the divine nature too. And when we pray and seek God's kingdom, and seek after His word, we are blessed, just as Elijah or Elisha and the disciples were blessed with the Spirit of God. As partakers of His divine nature, that we become one as He is One in us. Amen...
Elisha's performed a healing he was full of God's Spirit, after he had died, a man touched his bones and was completely healed.
The widow of Nain's son Jesus touch his coffin and raised him from the dead.
None of the prophets could heal anybody without being partakers of the divine.

dolphinheart:

pls state where I said or implied that I don't believe Paul o! or where I said he does not have the spirit of God in him!


is this a question or a statement.


I've just explained to you when one will share in the divine nature, it occurs when the promise is being fufilled, when you have excaped curruption!


the above is a lie!


when you have the holy spirit, you have a chance to enter the kingdom of God, but it is only when you enter that Kingdom that you leave your fleshly nature and put on a divine nature , thus being sharers of the divine nature with Christ.
you can't have two nature's at the same time!


haha!, your fully god does not have power now abi!. you are just restating what what I've been telling you, but still in a wrong way.
where does the holy spirit cone from? it comes from the father!. so was it the holy spirit that gave Jesus power ? no ! it was the father that gave Jesus power through the holy spirit

King James Version
Ac 10:38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Isa 11:2And the spirit of Jehovah will settle upon him, The spirit of wisdom and of understanding, The spirit of counsel and of mightiness, The spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.

Isa 42:1Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.

Isa 61:1The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,

Mt 3:16After being baptized, Jesus immediately came up from the water; and look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw God’s spirit descending like a dove and coming upon him.



that is a lie, the prophets did not use Jesus name to raise the dead!


they had the spirit of God, but they where still in the flesh, the spirit is what assures themy that the promise will be fufilled.


stop lying against me, where did I say or implied such!



bolded is wrong!, if you had accepted the scriptures I quoted to you , you would have understood, but you could never quote and explain them!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 12:40pm On Jun 21, 2016
johnw74:



Lie Lie jozzy

The following two verses are talking of the Word - Jesus Christ,
and job shows that the Word - Jesus Christ is "the Spirit of God":

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

The Word - Jesus Christ made job:

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was mad

It's amazing how antichrist jozzy is wrong absolutely every time,
well not really amazing, having the wrong spirit as he does.

Jesus is the Truth

satan is the father of lies



false teacher , spirit of God is not Jesus . Job doesn't say so, you are just too blind

Jesus said the spirit of Jehovah is upon me , did he meant that another Jesus is upon him ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jun 21, 2016
[quote author=dolphinheart post=46750033]
Idolatry includes the veneration, love, worship, adoration of an Idol sir, it's just not worship !
Dolphinshear,t you need Jesus


1. Zep 1:4, 5“I will stretch out my hand against Judah And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, And I will wipe out from this place every vestige of Baʹal, The name of the foreign-god priests along with the priests,
5 And those who bow down on the rooftops to the army of the heavens, And those who bow down and pledge loyalty to Jehovah While pledging loyalty to Malʹcam;


I know they are false gods cus the scriptures explained to me how to identify false god, and they fall under that category ! or do you not agree with me that they are false gods !
Malʹcam is a principal Idol god of the ammonites, the scriptures let's us know how worthless they are , so they are false!
please who is a false god?
King James Version
Zec 10:2For the idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie, and have told false dreams; they comfort in vain: therefore they went their way as a flock, they were troubled, because there was no shepherd.
so if somebody spoke the truth, he is truly God? Who is a true God

2. you said" I never told you that sun moon and stars are also called heavenly host but angels and demons are also called hosts of heaven". now please tell , are the sun and moon and stars and other things in the heavens also called host of heaven?
there was error in my post due to autocorrect on my phone. What I meant was that I never told you that moon, the stars and the sun are not hosts of heaven but also angels and demons are called hosts of heaven. So back to Genesis when the bible mention heaven, it never differentiated it. It is people like you because of doctrine that twist it.
3.you quoted 1 kings 22: 19, I hope you do that for all the scriptures you mentioned, angels are called host of heaven, now do the isrea lites worship angels, the answer is no , now are heavenly objects called the host of heaven, the answer is yes, therefore when the scriptures says the isrealities worship All THE HOSTS of heaven, why don't you think it includes the heavenly objects!
Remember , my problem with you as stated initially is your desire to only link "host of heaven " to angels and demons.
didn't you read where angels are called hosts of heaven or you are blind. Is not the bible that said it.? Angels can be worshipped which Paul warned Christians against.

pls read my post again:
"you can see that the isrealites pratIced all kinds of false worship , there are those who bowed to baal, there also those who bow down to the hosts of heaven, the moon and the sun and stars, and there are those who try to pledge loyalty to god and a false god at the same time.
look again at Gods command and tell if God is not referring to the things in the heavens.
King James Version
De 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
what did Jehovah say they see when they lift their eyes up to heaven? The sun moon and stars and all the host of heaven, if you look up to the heavens , do you not see this things?
Are those things demons? no!"


I never said you said such, I'm asking you a question which I want you to answer!
Jehovah said those those things are in heaven, are demons in heaven?
so are you saying demons can't be worshipped because they are invisible? When somebody carved wood into any form or use iron or gold to worship are they worshipping demons? Yes, are those iron gold or woods demons themselves ? No. So , if somebody worship sun moon or star they are worshipping demons but those objects are not demons themselves.


I have never said anything different from what I've said before
you have. Initially you were almost swearing that angels are not called hosts of heaven and that hosts of heaven only refers to sun moon and stars go back and read your garbage in which you were also quoting other versions just to discredit what I said. So worship directed to the sun moon or star where actually for the invisible hosts of heaven.


because, there is no way you can mention both together!
saying " Peter and paul" does not mean Peter is first before Paul or does it?
yes peter came to know Christ before Paul do u know that. Also the bible mention man before woman and Paul actually said man was created before woman. Also God before Christ I can go on and on. So my dear dolphinsheart there is order in the bible know it today, that is y people who distort the word of God will have it hot before God mean while heaven was created before earth. That's the order.


and the sun and stars are not part of heaven that was created in the beginning?
go and read your bible and tell me what day did God create the sun moon and stars.


1. that angels do not accept worship does not mean they can't be worshipped sir!
angels can be worshipped that is why the bible condemns worshipping the hosts of heaven. Have you heard of the queen of heaven?
2. you need to explain how you came about the belief that demons are in the physical heaven.
such knowledge is too high for you. The difference between you people and Christians is that Christians have the holy spirit which enables them to see further than you


this was not what you said initially you, you altered the bible verse when you refused to quote it, stop lying against the scripture.
it is obvious that you are the liar here
You want to discuss morning star , but you refused to answer the question:
all you know how to do is asking baseless questions. It is obvious that morning star is a title not only to angels but can be given to men. Shalom.
the word morning stars, do you know where Jesus called himself such?

solite3, you deliberately removed or refused to respond to this:

1. you deliberately ommited this one , you sad: "is it the father that came to this earth."
I replied:
no, but someone has said Jesus is the father, do you know who said so? I bet you know, but you can't fit mention!

2. well everyone can see you could not respond or explain the scriptures quoted to to the scriptures, I'll just point it to you again:
Joh 17:26 you where afraid to quote and explain these verse, expecially the underlined
solite3, if you are a truth full person, pls explain the verse above!
you could also not respond to this :
did it say god exalted himself,? no!
did it say Jesus exalted himself ? no !
Did that verse imply that that the one who was exalted is same as one doing the exalting? no!
therefore , "God ", reffered to In those verses is not Jesus.!
Isa 52:13 Look! My servant will act with insight. He will be raised up high, He will be elevated and greatly exalted
Ac 2:32, 33
you are a bad person solite3, for this what God wanted with his name :
1Ki 8:60
Eze 36:23
Eze 39:7
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 1:03pm On Jun 21, 2016
johnw74:



You are wrong yet again false jw, here is a couple of imaginery examples to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for many things, including animals and persons, even for Father God:


grin imaginary examples, height of blindness.


Bill said about Jims pet Tiger: "it" eats a lot
however the Tiger is not a thing an it, but an animal
When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
Thomas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.



However the Father God is not a "it",
a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

can't you see that your assertion contradict your conclusion @/blue ? u need serious help

false teacher , the Father is never called an " it" , ur example just showed your English teacher did a very bad job or maybe you are the dull student, who knows ?

yes , he is . that is the grammatically correct answer .

if you want to know how silly you sound, the next time someone said , is that your Father ? just say " yes it is " , man so u can use it for your father ?? johnw74 , false teaching is killing you. using an imaginary example only further show that ur teaching is false.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 6:09pm On Jun 21, 2016
johnw74:


Just the same lies as before.

I told you I'm not doing more searches for lazy false jw,
but false jw hates the truth and loves to lie all the time.
well they must find an excuse for
1.not being to post the post where I made the statement
2. not being able to show where the responded to my explanation!

dolphinheart concerning God and the Word: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You know as well as I do that you said it, you just cannot help but lie

Lie Lie dolphinheart
they will keep on concerning my words with theirs, but they will have not post that post!
plus remember , up till now , he has not apologised for lying against me that I said " god is a two headed god"

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 6:20pm On Jun 21, 2016
brocab:
I remember you had posted the page where dolphinheart had said that.
but you can't remember where he posted it , nor remember the link he posted. you cannot help him to post that post of mine here on this thread .

I through this old saying dolphinheart said was well and truly gone in the makings?
But dolphinheart waits until everything blows over, changing his own post, making false accusations against us Christians always, JW's do this because they know they haven't a leg to stand on.
liar!, stop lying against me, pls provide just one evidence of this!

I have them twisting my pages as well-after explaining to them about the Sabbath, I had one JW write back to me "telling me I was wrong saying Jesus broke the Sabbath-instead of him finishing my page he automatically crucified me for saying such a thing.
My words were>Matter of fact Jesus broke the Sabbath-next paragraph I said of course your own country men weren't to happy about it. So instead of him reading the scriptures himself, His reply back to me-didn't finish the sentence, claiming" I am calling Jesus a sinner, because I said-Jesus broke the Sabbath. I was only repeating what the pharisees had claimed.
next time you should have said " the pharisees said that Jesus broke the Sabbath" .
looking at your words, you are saying Jesus broke the Sabbath and the pharises are not happy about it!.


They are to busy trying to find faults about the bible-and about us Christians, and instead of reading the sentences, they jump straight into the pit, screaming from the top of their lungs, Brocab had said this, or Johnw74 had said that.
As long as I have dealt with the JW's 'still to this day-they are more trained to lie when corned into that corner they seem to put themselves in every time. They are like little children screaming out loud saying I didn't do it, Mother, Father, he/she done it.
Don't we all love the JW's?
They can only see, what they see-and speaking 'the blind don't see.
We Christians have been patient with them-only because like the Atheist, they too need the Lord, just as much, as we need Him.
And it's the Spirit of God who had laid the true foundation down for us to see to it, everyone has the rights to be saved.
And yes the JW's are being deceived like the world is being deceived. Their witnessing is a lie from the beginning, none know Christ, and none understand Christ, none are born again Christians, none have received the Spirit of God. With consideration as we all know it, 'Their God isn't the same God written in the bible.
continue to prop up your ego .

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 6:54pm On Jun 21, 2016
brocab:
Don't we all love the JW's?
Again you have twisted everything, I had said-I answered you question the answer was I don't tithe, and you had given me, a mean less quotation about the shekels.
why don't you pay tithe?
I Did not give you meaningless quotation, those words are from the scriptures.
It is not about shekels , it is about the customs of the Jews taken from the mosaic law to pay a certain amount of money to the temple . This money is not tithe!, when the Jews where asking Jesus about the temple tax, it was about that tax instituted on the Jews and not tithe! hope you get it now


Customs or taxes were under that same Mosaic law-it was Israels Custom to either tithe or pay Taxes it was under their law.

sir, tithe and taxes are not the same, there are also not interchangeable!. you don't De ide to pay one and leave the other, you don't Decide to select which one to pay.!, the rules governing both are different and distinct!
The isrealities also pay other taxes that are not under the mosaic law.

{2 Genesis 14:20} It was a Custom to pay tithes and taxes and Moses paid that Custom and Tax.
you should have quoted the verse na!

Tithing was not a Tax-as many call it to be.
Jesus asked that question to Peter whom do the Customs OR Taxes be paid too the Kings of the world, from Strangers or from their own Sons. Peter said from Strangers, then Jesus said then the Sons are free.
Meaning the Sons don't pay either way-and it was a law to pay those shekels in {Exodus 30:12-16} of Taxes and Customs back then.
did you read my post at all? who are the sons that don't pay tax? , you wunt be able to answer!

So dolphinheart don't answer unless you can come up with the right answers, I am tried trying to explain to you all the answers that you refuse to answer too, and then have the cheek denying I didn't reply back to you. All us Christians know you are a liar and a cheat-We all know the truth dolphinheart you read them, and then you go into hiding-refusing to answer them-only because our answers are written from the truth. So until you fill you do understand my page fully, then have the balls to be truthful, and reply back. You judge mental man "you are.
And your Quote is "Your question is faulty the law was not changed!
Think dolphinheart just ask yourself {if you can} this question why do you meet up with all you fellow JW's and all gather together in one place of worship on the Sunday, instead of the Sabbath Saturday, if the law was not changed?
Every 613 commandments made were Gods laws.
sir , since no law commanding Christians to gather on any day was changed, gathering together on a particular day , including Sundays is not wrong, witnesses gather together on any day of the week convenient for such gatherings .

I met up and gather in different places of worship with all other witnesses on Sunday , Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday , Saturday. The day we gather and meet is based on convenience and not on any set rule.

you have refused to show us the law that you believed was changed. you have refused to tell us who the law is for!, you gave vehemently refused to tell us how you came about Sabbath Saturday. You asked a faulty question, based on parameters that do not exist! and you have still refused to explain them .

again you did not respond to this issues :
this are the points I made which you refused to respond to
1. hope the info will include how you came about sabbath sartu r day, and how Christians are to worship on sabbath sartuday!
2. as a Christian, what day did the scriptures tell you to worship !
3. pls, include birthday to this pagan influenced doctrine o!
4. you have once again failed to quote and explain this scriptures :
Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1Jo 5:20But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting
1Co 1:3May you have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 8:5For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,”
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
brocab, my god is not unknown, he is the god of Jesus, the father, the almighty God, Jehovah!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:07am On Jun 22, 2016
Jozzy4:


false teacher , spirit of God is not Jesus . Job doesn't say so, you are just too blind

Lie Lie jozzy, as blind as a bat

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jozzy4:


Jesus said the spirit of Jehovah is upon me , did he meant that another Jesus is upon him ?


God and the Word are two persons, one God
blind jw jozzy will never see it
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:11am On Jun 22, 2016
Jozzy4:


grin imaginary examples, height of blindness.



can't you see that your assertion contradict your conclusion @/blue ? u need serious help

false teacher , the Father is never called an " it" , ur example just showed your English teacher did a very bad job or maybe you are the dull student, who knows ?

yes , he is . that is the grammatically correct answer .

if you want to know how silly you sound, the next time someone said , is that your Father ? just say " yes it is " , man so u can use it for your father ?? johnw74 , false teaching is killing you. using an imaginary example only further show that ur teaching is false.



Lie lie jozzy

your confusion and non understanding is showing in your every post
and your English grammar is just as bad
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by goodnews201668: 1:23am On Jun 22, 2016
grin grin grin grin grin grin

At bold.


Jozzy4:


grin imaginary examples, height of blindness.



can't you see that your assertion contradict your conclusion @/blue ? u need serious help

false teacher , the Father is never called an " it" , ur example just showed your English teacher did a very bad job or maybe you are the dull student, who knows ?

yes , he is . that is the grammatically correct answer .

if you want to know how silly you sound, the next time someone said , is that your Father ? just say " [/b]yes it is [b]" , man so u can use it for your father ?? johnw74 , false teaching is killing you. using an imaginary example only further show that ur teaching is false.


Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:25am On Jun 22, 2016
dolphinheart:

well they must find an excuse for
1.not being to post the post where I made the statement
2. not being able to show where the responded to my explanation!


they will keep on concerning my words with theirs, but they will have not post that post!
plus remember , up till now , he has not apologised for lying against me that I said " god is a two headed god"

No end to Lie Lie dolphinheart's denial and lies,

false jw dolphinheart repeats the same lies over and over again, of course.



Lie Lie dolphinheart said concerning God and the Word: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



It seems unbelievable that one who denies and lies so many times about what he knows he said, can call himself a Jehovahs Witness, there in shows the evil of that sect.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:30am On Jun 22, 2016
goodnews201668:
grin grin grin grin grin grin

At bold.



blind jw gooknews also showing his lack of English grammar knowledge
the blind following the blind, of course.

Truly only another false jw could follow confused jw jozzy

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:25am On Jun 22, 2016
another example:
Q. is that gooknews lying to jozzy?
A. Yes "it" is.
gooknews is an it cheesy

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:34am On Jun 22, 2016
confused jw's are so dumb they have been preaching their religion for 98 pages in this thread alone,
and no one believes them.
How would anyone believe them when all they see is false jw's throwing their hate, lies, and false accusation all around the place at others. They are seeing the real false jw.


Duh, you true colors showin boyz an gels, alwaze

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:57am On Jun 22, 2016
Another example:

false jw dolphinheart said concerning pharisee jw gooknews: "is that your girl friend jozzy"?

to which confused jw jozzy said: "yes it is"

again gooknews is an "it" smiley

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:37am On Jun 22, 2016
Q. is that gooknews' Father?

A. Yes it is.

Well it makes sense doesn't it, with gooknews being an it,
that his Father would also be an it smiley

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:34am On Jun 22, 2016
johnw74:


Lie lie jozzy

your confusion and non understanding is showing in your every post
and your English grammar is just as bad

Kid, according to your example . next time someone asks is that your Father , just say " yes It is " . And see how your awesome Dad will discipline the silly part of you

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:41am On Jun 22, 2016
Jozzy4:


Kid, according to your example . next time someone asks is that your Father , just say " yes It is " . And see how your awesome Dad will discipline the silly part of you

Lie Lie jozzy

Now don't go upsetting yourself like that, there's nothing wrong with being an it,
just look at cousin it, it doesn't upset itself, that it's an it.

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