AmbodOfLASU:



You studied History?

9jacrip:



The emboldened part is a major lie.

As a post M.A student who has some level of rapport with my lecturers at B.A level, I've come to understand that some private universities actually solicit for marks from lecturers on behalf of their students.

School authorities in a particular private university in Osun state beg lecturers to raise grades of E & F students based on the consideration of money paid.

And from my interactions with graduates from private universities - Covenant, Babcock, Bowen & Redeemers; I've come to a conclusion that they lack the rigour of research/academia. What I'm trying to say is that they're being taught the basic, they're aware of surface information (as far as History as a discipline goes) but further analysis and in-depth research seems not to be their thing.

I mostly don't take them serious but I do not brush them off either.

omicpet:
my finals in my uni days. Course all about fermentation. A night before the introductory class I was unfortunate to have shared a NON-ALCOHOLIC henieken bear drink with my good boss.
Lectures next day lecturer states all bear are alcoholic I calmly called the class and the lecturers attention to my previous night observation well am sure all ma people wey attend federal uni go sabi what happened next. Yeah the all knowingly lecturer sent me outta the class for saying such and even refused to use google as a reference search point. I had an E for that course.


How about this a course u had stumbled upon the exam question almost the whole class did. Prepared for over a week , a stroll in d park you would call the exam. Results out and d said scholars who only cram and pour back to d lecturers got them A(s) and B(s) and well am sure u know the rest.


Truth is lecturers in the federal uni are mostly damn lazy , the faculties sef aint of help. A students personal life is totally different from his school life (I called it work life) and most of this lecturers might as well just go through ur matric no, scroll through ur first page and dole out a grade to u.


In their own defense they are over worked and underpaid. Hence barely have enough time to build on their archive of knowledge and sit on them archaic books.

Even some laws of physics have been dis proven.

Conveneant university might have its flaws of been a controlled environment but its also a better ideal environment for those in seek of knowledge .

In federal uni u barely have well funded labs with updated apparatus and oh that's even if our said lecturers read the manuals and even know about how to operate them. Most are even scared of having the students try dem out for fear of it been damaged.


All in all whose fault?
Fault of those who say UNILORIN,UNILAG,IFE,ABUZARIA et all just to mention a few is my ALMA MATA and fail to give back to this institutuions who passed knowledge to them and grant them a certificate to earn the big bucks or lil bucks they earn.

Schools that broaden the scope of their horizon to meet people from all across the globe.

Fault of the VC's and chancellors who have failed in their duties to set up proper policing and regulatory bodies in school to avert against student bullying by lecturers and their lazy approach.

If all these are checked then we can now move unto the phase of proper school fundings.

9jacrip:


Yes.

ademate:
I have just one question to ask those who support private Universities: how many senior professor private universities had. caterial to justify here is years of teaching experience there professor have. How many of their international publications do they have published that it can be justify their efficiency. How many personal researches there professors has able to carry outed?

ademate:
I have just one question to ask those who support private Universities: how many senior professor private universities had. caterial to justify here is years of teaching experience there professor have. How many of their international publications do they have published that it can be justify their efficiency. How many personal researches there professors has able to carry outed?

koonbey:
More often than not, it's the other way around.

Tobi0908575:
One very big problem Nigerians have is celebrating mediocrity. Covenant University or the so called OAU are not even among the top 1000 universities in the world checking any university rating what so ever. Still some folks are satisfied making silly comparison. To even compare a BSc to a PhD which is effectively what this argument is trying to say is total bullocks. Covenant University and OAU are both part of the Nigerian educational system facing similar challenges and are vetted by the same university commission.

UIA04:

Nobody applies to a private University and can't go except you don't have the money.

NigerianScholar:

False.....VERY FALSE
Speaking from experience

mrwonlasewonie:
Painment

In private universities the lecturers are monitored by established institutional frameworks set in place to avoid exchange of vagina for grades,exchaging students Mark with each other and other vices we see in public universities .if a student complains about sexual harassment by a lecturer and the student fails they will check her past records whether that's her trend, find out whether she's an A,B or C student. Another exam will be conducted for her in that particular course and iF she fails she will go on suspension for slander and telling wicked lies against the lecturer. She will also be the one to pay an entirely different lecturer for his services,stay in the university guest house and his feeding who the school will hire (something similar to external examiner) who will mark her work but iF she passes the course that's the end of that lecturers career.he cannot work in that university or any other university because letters will be sent to other universities.

So what that person typed is complete balderdash. Every student in private university EARNS whatever grades they get irrespective of the millions they pay as school fees and by the way the school fees is payment of services and efficient service delivery so that his or her 4 years Will be 4years and have easy access to university facilities and services

On the other hand public university lecturers that fail students do it out of ego to show they're still the boss or they know more than the student. In some cases if the student in a public university is asking too much questions and the lecturer can't answer it the lecturer might start bullying the student academically and suffocate his intelligence /quest for more knowledge till he becomes a passive student

So stop comparing death and sleep because they're incomparable

Standing5:
You r talking trash man. It is public schools who don't do research and bribe, sort, cheat with phones, have no laboratories 'n good library. They are ever pulling private uni and their products down out of insecurity.

Pasca07:
are u saying we don't have lot of federal universities graduates that get there jobs through connection?

vodutive:



The bottom line is most Nigerian degrees are not worth the paper they are printed on. Just as you dont take degrees from the above Universities seriously, in my company we no longer take Nigerian graduates seriously, we employ them only mostly for admin and clerical functions and look to foreign graduates for professional positions. We wont admit it publicly but thats the rule.

Threecrownz:
Op has succeeded in bringing up anoda argument...d guy is a joker...let him finish with 2.2 and let's see if he will be able to compete with a covenant student dat grad wit 2.1 for a job dat d minimum requirement for application is 2.1....mtchew...d guy is probably an OAU student and we love deceiving ourselves...#iRepIfe....

mrwonlasewonie:
mr intelligent you know book well o

I like your spellings gan o

mrwonlasewonie:
Painment

In private universities the lecturers are monitored by established institutional frameworks set in place to avoid exchange of vagina for grades,exchaging students Mark with each other and other vices we see in public universities .if a student complains about sexual harassment by a lecturer and the student fails they will check her past records whether that's her trend, find out whether she's an A,B or C student. Another exam will be conducted for her in that particular course and iF she fails she will go on suspension for slander and telling wicked lies against the lecturer. She will also be the one to pay an entirely different lecturer for his services,stay in the university guest house and his feeding who the school will hire (something similar to external examiner) who will mark her work but iF she passes the course that's the end of that lecturers career.he cannot work in that university or any other university because letters will be sent to other universities.

So what that person typed is complete balderdash. Every student in private university EARNS whatever grades they get irrespective of the millions they pay as school fees and by the way the school fees is payment of services and efficient service delivery so that his or her 4 years Will be 4years and have easy access to university facilities and services

On the other hand public university lecturers that fail students do it out of ego to show they're still the boss or they know more than the student. In some cases if the student in a public university is asking too much questions and the lecturer can't answer it the lecturer might start bullying the student academically and suffocate his intelligence /quest for more knowledge till he becomes a passive student

So stop comparing death and sleep because they're incomparable

slydog:


Dude, I graduated from a private university with a cgpa of 3.93 on a scale of 5. While serving I was tauted that my sch gave free marks that's why there's plenty of first class and upper degrees from the school. I took that as a challenge, I went to a top 6 federal university for masters, despite the fact that they didn't want to give me admission because 'by the time they start advanced microeconomics, I will be lost due to my first degree background' I managed to get the admission, of course I had to prove my mettle. Long story short, I and the course rep emerged best graduating student with cgpa of 4.14/5, now will you still compare I & the course rep who had his first degree from the sch and knows his way round all the lecturers? Am not saying he's not smart, but I proved a point. Today this dept now accepts private university graduates.
They had no choice but to offer me doctoral admission which am presently on.

Good enough you don't thrash us down tho...

demmymoney:
The comparism here is pointless........Wat I know is dat wen we youths reach the ages of 45-50,people who went to public university will be the ones in the future working for their mates who went to private university **quote me**

eyinjuege:


Allvyou have said is unfounded. Dumb students are seen in both private and public unis.
So you cannot say someone felt disgusted at a student's dissertation. Public unis have become a joke, where even lecturers steal dissertations from others abroad.
Many private uni students speak and write better English than a lot of our public uni students, and they communicate better too.
I finished from a public uni years ago and felt fly with myself till I went elsewhere,and saw how dissertations are expected to be written, how proper research is carried out. Private units have a better environment to do that than public unis.

sweet7oyin:
but u know dat not all guys dat go 2 fed uni can't afford private uni

einsteino:


I would be very honest with you and try to be unbiased. Cheating with phones happen in private unis, matter of fact one of my interns who is an undergrad of covenant tells funny stories about what happens there. Sorting and bribing are non existent there though. However there are fair number of public unis where you cant buy grades, I graduated from one of such. Anyways am not here to lie that all is well with public unis but you should not paint private unis to be what they arent. Truth is there is problem in the entire education sector. Well nonetheless let me speak of my assesment of private unis based on my experience with their graduates and undergrads.

I am a civil engr, work in a consulting firm and I happen to have interns from covenant, afe babalola and landmark under me currently. I have had lots previously. What i can say is there a good number of good students in private univeristies but not as a result of some miracle tutorship there. A bright student is bright and just needs a little mentorship or push to be genius. I have had interns who seemed to have good grades, grades that if a federal uni student had, he would be equivalent to a genius and yet there wasnt much lustre to their capacity. I am not saying they were dull but i wasnt blown away at all. I have equally seen lots of below average ones, not like public unis dont have such, only difference is these ones don't have the long list of carry overs you would be sure they would bag if in a plublic uni.

Further interactions with them have been quite revealing, one of them back then confessed he realised he had the grades but hadnt the knowledge. We spoke at length about the fashion of teaching in his school and i must say i have reservations on a number of things. I even went through his e-lecture notes, not what i expected it to be. Well in my usual tradition, i retook him through most of the courses he needed good understanding of, so i could plunge him into the pratical aspect of structural engineering. He learned very fast i must confess that he is even smarter than some public uni graduates. He said he regretted studying at his sch, he said this when he realised i graduated from a university his dad stopped him from attending despite having gained admission. Again another misconception, he thought my university made me all, he failed to see that all they did was set the standard of examination high and not standard of learning. The problem with private unis is often the pressure to have a decent mean perfomance across the class unlike public uni where no one cares If the entire class fails. This often results in sub standard examinations and easy course work. Then there is the problem of having kids from wealthy background, kids who do not see the need to study hard for a better tomorrow. Many public uni students do not love academics but when they remember where they are from, they work hard to succeed against all odds.

You made mention of labs, oh yeah some good private unis have great labs, labs as good as those in UNN, UI, Unilag, OAU or even better. My uni had labs but did we even understand the real life applications and scientific importance of what we did in them? How many research papers was i able to publish in my 5years in school? Am very sure my answer is the same as all the private uni students i have encountered.

There are advantages of studying in a private uni, like you said you would be assured you would never be marked down, there isnt cultism(though there is drug problem in some) and the most important is the connections a student can make. One is able to make friends with kids of the elites, this is as important as grades because life is a connection game.. Who you know is some times more important than what you know.

Other than these, there is nothing fantastic about them, just the usual poor nigerian educational institution. A public uni grad bad mouthing a private uni grad is just a jobless fellow, we are all victims of the country we find ourselves in.

chiefolododo:
He is right