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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:56pm On Jul 08, 2016
GBR1:
Do you think we should go for him? How much do you think he's worth?
Nope!
Because we will always be dominated in the middle like Germany did to france who were only saved by the german lack of decent strikers to finish off most of their moves.
Except we intended playing like the defensive small club mentality Atletico.
However, If he end up as a striker like Diego Costa who started as a SS. I would snap him up in an heartbeat.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:58pm On Jul 08, 2016
Kolade354:
I said all you do is to find fault. I'm sure you know messi weakness too Arindin pundit
You implied that nobody is good in my eyes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 4:27pm On Jul 08, 2016
Diademk07:
Nope!
Because we will always be dominated in the middle like Germany did to france who were only saved by the german lack of decent strikers to finish off most of their moves.
Except we intended playing like the defensive small club mentality Atletico.
However, If he end up as a striker like Diego Costa who started as a SS. I would snap him up in an heartbeat.
What about we creating a strong midfield to dominate the opposition and back him up as a goal getter ? Would he fail in such a situation too?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:28pm On Jul 08, 2016
Spy360:
Well if it is a front four, Rooney should get in. But then it shows United are short of enough quality.

This league will be tough for Mou. He was criticising LvG for not making UCL, he has just had his work cut out.
a front 4 will not accommodate the best players cuz Rooney will find space. If the arrangement will be a front 4 it will be to try Rooney first & that's why he already has a head-start.

In a 4-3-3 which will accommodate more of the better players there's no space to shoehorn Rooney.

Tell Wenger to submit a bid for Wayne Rooney. We know Wenger is stingy but we go consider £20m cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 4:40pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
a front 4 will not accommodate the best players cuz Rooney will find space. If the arrangement will be a front 4 it will be to try Rooney first & that's why he already has a head-start.

In a 4-3-3 which will accommodate more of the better players there's no space to shoehorn Rooney.

Tell Wenger to submit a bid for Wayne Rooney. We know Wenger is stingy but we go consider £20m cheesy cheesy
I wouldn't even exchange him for Giroud. cheesycheesy

Yet he gives us pain. Rooney would give Arsene stroke.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by taiwoliu(m): 4:44pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
In goalkeeping, its a shame to be beaten at your near post because thats where you are supposed to protect first.[s] It doesnt make him a bad keeper it just makes him a keeper that has a long way to go to match an icon like Neuer[/s].
Neuer an icon?! shocked bros wch kain expired fura u dey sip?



Icon kor Emoticon ni tongue tongue..........

Oga Ade, You no know Ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Jul 08, 2016
taiwoliu:
Neuer an icon?! shocked bros wch kain expired fura u dey sip?
Icon kor Emoticon ni tongue tongue..........

Oga Ade, You no know Ball
In the last twenty years Kahn, Buffon, Neuer and Casilass are the goalkeeping icons

DDG is still struggling with the likes of Cortouis, Navas, Leno and Trapp
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by taiwoliu(m): 5:45pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
[s]In the last twenty years Kahn, Buffon, Neuer and Casilass are the goalkeeping icons

DDG is still struggling with the likes of Cortouis, Navas, Leno and Trapp[/s]
you are trying too hard to make Neuer look Good. Bros, just admit ur guy goofed big time and it cost his team a spot in the final of this competition.

Whether he is an Icon ooo or toolbar is none of my freaking business.Ta lo bi yin lejo ten ro? huh tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:58pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
In the last twenty years Kahn, Buffon, Neuer and Casilass are the goalkeeping icons

DDG is still struggling with the likes of Cortouis, Navas, Leno and Trapp
What is your criteria?
........

As of January 2013

The Top 20 finalists are all featured below:
1. G. Buffon (ITA) 226 points
2. Iker Casillas (SPN) 213
3. Edwin van der Sar (HOL) 201
4. Peter Schmeichel (DEN) 179
5. Oliver Kahn (GER) 162
6. Petr Cech (CZE) 154

7. J.L. Chilavert (PAR) 146
8. Walter Zenga (ITA) 132
.-. A. Zubizarreta (ESP) 132
10. Claudio Taffarel (BRA) 130
11. M. Preud’homme (BEL) 124
12. Fabien Barthez (FRA) 115
13. David Seaman (ENG) 114
14. Dida (BRA) 109
15. Vítor Baía (POR) 94
16. Gianluca Pagliuca (ITA) 90
17. Francesco Toldo (ITA) 82
.-. Víctor Valdés (SPN) 82
19. Jens Lehmann (GER) 81
20. Júlio César (BRA) 76

In the article ‘ World’s Best Goalkeeper of the Last Quarter of a Century ’ by the International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS), Casillas falls 13 points short of Buffon for the top spot.

Buffon tops the list with 226 points, while Casillas has 213, former Manchester United goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar with 201, Peter Schmeichel with 179 and Oliver Kahn with 162.
Former Barcelona goalkeeper and current sporting director, Andoni Zubizarreta comes in at 9th place with 132 points, while current Barcelona goalkeeper, Victor Valdes cracks the Top 20 at the 18th position with 82 points.

www.insidespanishfootball.com/39563/casillas-named-second-best-goalkeeper-over-the-past-25-years/
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 6:06pm On Jul 08, 2016
GBR1:
That was before. He gets few things correctly these days and always comes across as an ITK. TBH He doesn't know sh1t anymore and always reports by talking from both sides of his mouth to cover all possibilities of an event. Go check out all the nonsense he has said this year.
well ive been following him for some years now,and hes been at least 96% accurate,I can't remember any goof hes made this year and hes not an ITK,he actually knows,and him being d most reliable among sky sports journalist should say something....even sometime on this thread when it broke out we wanted Bailey and balague tweeted it,thats when i knew we were serious
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 6:17pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
He's never goofed is that what you are saying?
rarely
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY:
dubylhover:
rarely
in case you've not noticed the guy simply speaks "either or".
Pogba has told Zidane he wants to play for Madrid but Madrid are afraid United may offer too much money & out-bid them.

Bros that statement make sense to you?

If he signs for United - "ah they stumped up so much cash"
If he signs for Madrid - "I no tell you"

Abegi
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 6:41pm On Jul 08, 2016
dubylhover:
seems you dont know balague very well,he's d most reputable sports journalist when it comes to transfers,if he says we are signing Kim kardashian tomorrow,then we are
Seems you dont know Balague. He has been wrong on several occasions. His word can still be taken with a pinch of salt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:44pm On Jul 08, 2016
elampiro:
What is your criteria?
........

www.insidespanishfootball.com/39563/casillas-named-second-best-goalkeeper-over-the-past-25-years/
You should know he want to argue.
How is Neuer an icon & Cech is not? The next thing you'll see now is Neuer holding a World Cup trophy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 6:53pm On Jul 08, 2016
Hopefully Jose sees sense and leaves this Pogba business alone and move on to other targets.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 6:54pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
in case you've not noticed the guy simply speaks "either or".
Pogba has told Zidane he wants to play for Madrid but Madrid are afraid United may offer too much money & out-bid them.

Bros that statement make sense to you?

If he signs for United - "ah they stumped up so much cash"
If he signs for Madrid - "I no tell you"

Abegi
how don't you understand or comprehend d statement..d player wants Madrid but united is likely to outbid madrid,ergo juve wud sell to united..what didn't you understand
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07:
GBR1:
What about we creating a strong midfield to dominate the opposition and back him up as a goal getter ? Would he fail in such a situation too?
Personally, I think 442 is old fashioned. Maybe in the 90's but I could bet that such tactic would always be crushed by 4-3-3/4231 tactic in 9 out of 10.
In fact, our best performance in the CL campaign under fergie in the 2000's was when we had a 3-man midfield with an attack trio of Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo. Or when Rooney was deployed as an out an out striker until his injury against Bayern.
No doubt that Leicester city (with their agile and physical midfield) managed to win the league by deploying the same 442 tactic but I would attribute it to lack of top deeplying playmakers among the top 4 clubs and I could only think of Arsenal's Carzola who's always been injured btw or maybe Fabregas who's been terrible for a while now although I'm still of the opinion that Fab's more of an attacking midfielder.
Don't forget the same Leicester physical midfield still got outclassed by an ageing Carrick at old trafford. This is the same reason why Mancity had always failed in europe with their 442 tactic or why Real madrid couldn't get out of 1st round stages under Pellegrini with his 442 tactic.
Some would likely bring up the Atletico team but then, the only time they were able to outsmart Barca last season was by deploying a 4-3-3 tactic in the second leg CL tie. More so, I don't like how Atletico play with their defensive boredom tactic. They reek of clubs with small time mentality.
Anyway, I don't mind SS whose attribute are similar to no 10. For examples, Messi, Robben, Totti, Reus etc who constantly drift around the wing and has abundant of vision in their arsenal.
We could even say Payet game has suffered as a result of Griezman in the centre, not only because he's being deployed as a touchline winger in the 442 tactic but also, he had no one to constantly release him in acres of space on the wing nor the space to always drift into, in the centre.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:10pm On Jul 08, 2016
dubylhover:
how don't you understand or comprehend d statement..d player wants Madrid but united is likely to outbid madrid,ergo juve wud sell to united..what didn't you understand
Have you ever seen a player forced to go where he doesn't want?
Juve cannot sell Pogba without his consent, £500m or not. We are not talking of non-living things here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:25pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
Have you ever seen a player forced to go where he doesn't want?
Juve cannot sell Pogba without his consent, £500m or not. We are not talking of non-living things here.
but d whole summary is that pogbas first choice is madrid not manu...besides thats how tins stand now..that's d message
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:37pm On Jul 08, 2016
I would say Griesman would be perfect for Conte 3-5-2 though.
But with us, the likes of Mikhi and Martial games would suffer as they are no wingers nor wide midfielder such as Koke who is more or less like a winger capable of delivering great crosses into the box.
4-3-3/4-2-3-1 is the best to fit in Mkhi and Martial.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:43pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
Have you ever seen a player forced to go where he doesn't want?
Juve cannot sell Pogba without his consent, £500m or not. We are not talking of non-living things here.
Di Maria??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:47pm On Jul 08, 2016
Dadehmola:
Di Maria??
Was he? He had a choice in the matter.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:48pm On Jul 08, 2016
dubylhover:
but d whole summary is that pogbas first choice is madrid not manu...besides thats how tins stand now..that's d message
according to Mr Guillem Balague cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:49pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
in case you've not noticed the guy simply speaks "either or".
Pogba has told Zidane he wants to play for Madrid but Madrid are afraid United may offer too much money & out-bid them.

Bros that statement make sense to you?

If he signs for United - "ah they stumped up so much cash"
If he signs for Madrid - "I no tell you"


Abegi
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:57pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
according to Mr Guillem Balague cool
grin in Harvey spectars voice *thats the only according to that matters*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:59pm On Jul 08, 2016
SailorXY:
Was he? He had a choice in the matter.
As e pain am reach, he had this to say..even as a Man utd player...

Di Maria:
"PSG, I think they had a money problem and they couldn't buy players," he told French station Telefoot. "This is the main reason I didn't go there. Playing in the French league would please a lot of players.

"Now I'm in the English league. But you never know, there is a lot of movement in football. You can never predict where you're going to play.

"There were a lot of clubs interested in me, a lot really. But Manchester United appeared and didn't go away. They absolutely wanted me and it happened."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 8:24pm On Jul 08, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mE3fonGRn4

Pogba and Evra seem like best buddies. If we sign Pogba I hope they include Evra in the deal just to have his mate around. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:24pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
In goalkeeping, its a shame to be beaten at your near post because thats where you are supposed to protect first. It doesnt make him a bad keeper it just makes him a keeper that has a long way to go to match an icon like Neuer.
Neuer who has made far worst error in recent time will never be an icon to De Gea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 8:24pm On Jul 08, 2016
dubylhover:
but d whole summary is that pogbas first choice is madrid not manu...besides thats how tins stand now..that's d message
He's talking nonsense. People are calling out his bullsh1t on twitter.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:46pm On Jul 08, 2016
tess1:
Neuer who has made far worst error in recent time will never be an icon to De Gea.
Neuer is a world cup winner, He is a CL winner as a starter, He is a Balon Dor top 3 the highest position a keeper has ever been in the past 20yrs

If DDG achieve these he would retire and consider himself a success in his career
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 9:21pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
In the last twenty years Kahn, Buffon, Neuer and Casilass are the goalkeeping icons

DDG is still struggling with the likes of Cortouis, Navas, Leno and Trapp
Cech kwanu?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 9:41pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
Neuer is a world cup winner, He is a CL winner as a starter, He is a Balon Dor top 3 the highest position a keeper has ever been in the past 20yrs

If DDG achieve these he would retire and consider himself a success in his career
You never disappoints just like someone already said it that you'll soon start mentioning trophies he has won to justify the status you are giving him.

If that is the case, Victor Valdez was once the best goalkeeper in the world. After all, he too has won more than those trophies you mentioned. Meaning that Victor Valdez is also better than your Neuer.

Thank God you didn't bother responding to the fact that Neuer has conceded far worst goals in recent times than the one you are using to downgrade De Gea.

That's exactly what I responded to, not this your titles-mention which Victor Valdez have also won without even being Spain's number 1.
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