Chuksemi:


Thank you. Good Morning Ma. I have never experienced what you just explained.

Mo to gbo.
Oya edit your post joor.

If he catches me talking about this on my NL handle, I will explain myself using 3 sheets of notepad.

stephenmorris:
one question I want to ask you is did you apply anything to the arm or take some medications because I also had a mark on my face one day when I woke up my mum thought it was an attack but my big brother said I was stung by am insect after days without prayers it went on its own I did not even take any medication and I do not believe in God or the supernatural

4everGod1:



If she applied any cream or took any medication I think she would have said so. Plus her shock isnt that the scar cleard up but it is thaf it cleared up coincidentally when she was praising God and it took just 3hours or so to clear up completely without leaving any trace.

Yours took days...hers took 3 hours and left no mark to show that there was even a scare there to begin with.

frank317:


Lol... what are you implying in your last paragraph?

His took days, therefore it's not God

Hers took three days therefore it's God

While your God is quick to heal a scratch in three hours, can he apply such speed in rescuing the chibok girls and innocent kids suffering all around the world?

4everGod1:



When your mind is obviously out of its depth it begins to speak balderdash.

MizMyColi:


Nooo
I didn't rub anything.

I forgot about it and was singing Praise songs.
It was after the prayer session I remembered and I thought to look at it again and maybe brood. Only to discover nothing was there.

MizMyColi:


Nooo
I didn't rub anything.

I forgot about it and was singing Praise songs.
It was after the prayer session I remembered and I thought to look at it again and maybe brood. Only to discover nothing was there.

frank317:
Hi miz...

A scratch appeared on your hand and you had the opportunity to think through what happened, ask reasonable question and get answers. But what did you do! You did what most gullible Nigerians would do... pray.

So I wanna ask... in the cause of prayer, didn't what ever healed you tell you the cause of the scratch? Why would something spiritual scratch your hand? What is the spiritual significance? What's was the aim? What was the process?
You didn't get all these answers then and now out of the blues, years later, you expect athesits to help u get an answer you would have gotten yourself.
We have a long way to go in this country

MizMyColi:
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I didn't want to reply you earlier because I see your brand of atheism is laced with insolence.

But you made a point which I would like to clarify on.

The mark I saw wasn't the first.
It was a normal occurrence.

stephenmorris:
i will say you lied in your posts,how did you know you slept for three hours

stephenmorris:
then why make it sound like a supernatural experience,why bring it to the religion section and not post it in the health section,you are making the same problems Nigerians make always going to the wrong place for advice

MizMyColi:


I would say you don't understand most of what I have posted here.

Y'know...
I don't enjoy being accused of lying when all I have done is be as open as it gets.

Did you not read the part where I wrote that I woke up to pray at midnight with my brethren (over the phone). I saw it and told them (that wasn't the first time I had reported such to them). We would always cast and bind together.
On this occasion, I reported same.
After praying about it,

aaronson:
@MizMyColi

Let's assume there is God who could heal you from a mysterious body mark and can't or won't heal millions of other christians with cancer and other severe bed ridden illnesses.

Is that God a just and all loving God?

Again

Hypothetically, that mark is as a result of clogged blood in a definite part of your body prior to your then sleep position then, when you woke up blood circulation didn't really get to that spot, over some period of time, Blood circulation already reaches that part and had swept away the clog blood and there you go, yelling Miracle.

Ofcourse, Miracles happen but to those people who don't know how things work. Till today Many people still believes lightening and thunder are miracles/supernatural force but its pure physics.

MizMyColi, My opinion about your religion view is confusion, Reason why? You having a conflict between your Brain(logic) and social psychology(conformity), so you resort to be labelless.

You a smart lady like I perceive you to be, Make up your mind and pick a stand point. And when you do, Study all about it and pick which ever makes sense to you. Christianity or Atheism

MizMyColi:
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I didn't want to reply you earlier because I see your brand of atheism is laced with insolence.

But you made a point which I would like to clarify on.

The mark I saw wasn't the first.
It was a normal occurrence.

Yes, I prayed because that was what made me wake up, to fellowship with the brethren.
Not to pray for healing.

Do you understand?

frank317:


Sorry for sounding insolent (damn... I had to work hard not to sound like that but, how can I, in a country were people believe aeroplanes are example of witch craft)


A scratch on your hand disappearing on its own is nothing near supernatural, it doesn't even sound supernatural. You just didn't investigate to find out the cause. It was bound to disappear at the time it did, not because u praised God and prayed. It's just something u don't understand simply because you have not taken the right action to understand it.

Calling it supernatural is laughable, except u believe that anything we just don't understand is supernatural..

frank317:


Sorry for sounding insolent (damn... I had to work hard not to sound like that but, how can I, in a country were people believe aeroplanes are example of witch craft)


A scratch on your hand disappearing on its own is nothing near supernatural, it doesn't even sound supernatural. You just didn't investigate to find out the cause. It was bound to disappear at the time it did, not because u praised God and prayed. It's just something u don't understand simply because you have not taken the right action to understand it.

Calling it supernatural is laughable, except u believe that anything we just don't understand is supernatural..

MizMyColi:


Lol
Aaronson.

So a blood clots or clogs and it appears like some wound where I was scratched and it hurts!

Okay, even if I am not convinced.
Let's agree to disagree that it was a medical condition.

How did it disappear completely? How?

About being label less...
Turns out I enjoy cherry picking.
I like fluidity.
It works for me well.

Or shouldn't I stick to what works for me just so I can be seen as haven taken a stand?

MizMyColi:


Heyyy

You know, you're right.
Perhaps, if I had thought out the topic, I wouldn't have added atheists.

I actually copied the topic verbatim from damogul. I went with it because atheists are good at proffering explanations for stuff like this.

A Christian would tell me it's God.
I do not exactly doubt the veracity of that, but then....perhaps there's an explanation.

What happened?
What did I do rightly?

Other times the marks returned on other parts, what did I do wrongly?

Why do these marks appear anyway?

Telling me I must have scratched myself won't cut it. I have very short fingernails and sometimes these these appear in weird and unscratchable places.

Now about natural and super natural.

We are humans and I believe our realities differ. What is super natural and abnormal to me might as well be natural and normal to you.

If a man gives birth or carries a foetus, or a woman gives birth through her Amy's instead of her Vagiina, it is super natural, it is abnormal.

Now because we have never experienced any of these does not mean we should dismiss the possibility either now or in the nearest future.

Things happen, I hear weird stories. Most of the time, I doubt them. But when I remember what happened to me, I tell myself "Oh well, it might be true, it mightn't be true."

Kay17:



You omit a part. You think your narrative fits into a ready made worldview -- a spiritual worldview. A wound mark running down your arm and erasing so quickly fits the narrative of a spiritual attack. You heard many similar stories and believe your story shouldn't be dissimilar from those.

Assuming you had no prior knowledge of an African spiritual attack, wouldn't you have searched for another explanation within a secular worldview?!

4everGod1:



Your statement is way more laughable than hers because she spoke from experience while you are just grasping at straws.

The experience was hers and I am sure this story which she directed to Atheists was in itself a test for you guys and its amazing that none of you could agree on one thing. You all created scenarios in your individual heads and gave varying responses which speaks a lot about how confused you all are and how all of you exist on a false foundation.

She said this wasnt the first time it had happened plus why it happened frequently on other occasions and her spiritual disposition then compared to now and the other ones took a good while longer to heal but they left scars but this one totally vanished and in record time and it coincided with when she saw it, reported it and praised and prayed without regard to it.

Some would call it coincidence or any other name like a health condition but she isnt buying that because she knows what she saw and experienced

Kondomatic:
God bless your soul, I thought I was the only person that noticed all the unnecessary efforts they put in to explain what they don't even understand.
They all reminds of a thread a read sometime ago. "how to appear busy at work without doing anything"
That's just what they are doing here.
Atheist can't explain miracles because it is beyond them so they deny its occurrence.
Just see how many explanations we have for something that appeared and disappeared within hours. It is laughable.
My problem with mizmycoly is her inability to be "one thing"
You can't call her a christian, you can't say she's an atheist. It is weird.

4everGod1:


Atheists are just sad people deep down inside. Mizmycoli is gradually finding her way back to God...God sees her and knows how to reach her.

MizMyColi:


What I don't understand is the insolence and "I am intellectually superior than you" attitude that most atheists and "enlightened" folks exhibit.

In all honesty, I was once in that position where I felt better than Christians and those who are very religious.
I was corrected from within and I learned to give everyone grace for as much as I can help it.

It occurred to me that while I might not agree with yours and everyone's definition of God, we agree that there is an unseen hand that guides our path, and that no matter how much you try to deny his/its existence...you find that you are better for it when you acknowledge this source/power (however you choose to do it).
This power manifests itself in various things and ways and even the bible alludes that HE FILLS ALL THINGS WITH HIMSELF ALL IN ALL.

In the end, I find that however we choose to pray or worship or meditate, it's our own way of trying to make sense of and relate with this entity which is mostly unfathomable in its ways.

I do have sets of belief which are not in tandem with any named religion at the moment.

For example, I have not seen God as has been described in the bible.
But I have seen Love, I have felt love, I have known it, I have given it, I have received it; both in ways I can explain and ways that I can't. My life's aim is to ensure that every action of mine proceeds from a standpoint of love. That is my religion. Every other belief system is secondary.

I haven't achieved perfection in that because you find that it's a continous process. You succeed in one level, you move on to another.
Those who "accuse" me of having no stand can glean from the above.

MizMyColi:
PUZZLING THOUGHTS.

At a time when I almost crossed over to try Atheism owing to semi-convictions from a person who taught me my first lessons on God's Grace, the event described above made me hold back.

I have not seen the entity we call God. Apart from what I read in the bible about Jesus (which I choose to believe anyway) I do not have any tangible evidence that he exists/existed.

But what I do know for sure is that the supernatural/paranormal is real. I am convinced that there are powers/energies out there and based on their perceived chatacteristics I have categorised them into good and bad.

While I have a million reasons to buttress this belief of mine, the one I described above stands out because it defies logic and NO...it is neither coincidence nor hallucination or anything that remotely resembles such.

If anyone has a tangible explanation that aptly describes what happened to me that night, please proffer. Thank you.

MizMyColi:


What I don't understand is the insolence and "I am intellectually superior than you" attitude that most atheists and "enlightened" folks exhibit.

In all honesty, I was once in that position where I felt better than Christians and those who are very religious.
I was corrected from within and I learned to give everyone grace for as much as I can help it.

It occurred to me that while I might not agree with yours and everyone's definition of God, we agree that there is an unseen hand that guides our path, and that no matter how much you try to deny his/its existence...you find that you are better for it when you acknowledge this source/power (however you choose to do it).
This power manifests itself in various things and ways and even the bible alludes that HE FILLS ALL THINGS WITH HIMSELF ALL IN ALL.

In the end, I find that however we choose to pray or worship or meditate, it's our own way of trying to make sense of and relate with this entity which is mostly unfathomable in its ways.

I do have sets of belief which are not in tandem with any named religion at the moment.

For example, I have not seen God as has been described in the bible.
But I have seen Love, I have felt love, I have known it, I have given it, I have received it; both in ways I can explain and ways that I can't. My life's aim is to ensure that every action of mine proceeds from a standpoint of love. That is my religion. Every other belief system is secondary.

I haven't achieved perfection in that because you find that it's a continous process. You succeed in one level, you move on to another.
Those who "accuse" me of having no stand can glean from the above.

frank317:


Lol... love ke... do u not think atheists feel love too?

Sadly... you are still a candidate for hell except u are intune with how 4everGod1 sees hell.

Naaa.

It goes beyond feeling love as an emotion?

Hell?

MizMyColi:
PUZZLING THOUGHTS.

At a time when I almost crossed over to try Atheism owing to semi-convictions from a person who taught me my first lessons on God's Grace, the event described above made me hold back.

I have not seen the entity we call God. Apart from what I read in the bible about Jesus (which I choose to believe anyway) I do not have any tangible evidence that he exists/existed.

But what I do know for sure is that the supernatural/paranormal is real. I am convinced that there are powers/energies out there and based on their perceived chatacteristics I have categorised them into good and bad.

While I have a million reasons to buttress this belief of mine, the one I described above stands out because it defies logic and NO...it is neither coincidence nor hallucination or anything that remotely resembles such.

If anyone has a tangible explanation that aptly describes what happened to me that night, please proffer. Thank you.

mnwankwo:

Hi MizMycoil. Thanks for your OP. I offer a non-medical possible explanation to your question. While a medical explanation my be plausible, I do not sense it is a medical issue. It is possible that the the scratch appeared as a result of self-hypnosis or auto-suggestion. Without being aware of it, individuals who dwell so much on witches, and similar things can bring about the manifestation of these very things on themselves. The thoughts and imagination generated during self-hypnosis can have a temporal and limited effect on the physical body. These effects quickly disappear as the thoughts and imagination that produced them are not imbued with the neutral living power. Thus, people can suddenly go blind, have scratches on their body, deaden the pain of a toothache, etc but these suddenly disappear or return to normal once the focus of the self hypnosis (fear, ecstasy, repeated incantation, chanting, etc) is removed. Note, that what I said above is just a possible explanation. To have a precise and accurate explanation, one has ito look at your aura. Stay blessed.