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Following the live TV selections for August and September announced on Thursday, Manchester United can confirm that at least a further five matches will move from their provisional dates. The home fixtures against Stoke City, West Ham United and Tottenham Hotspur and the away games at Chelsea and Swansea City will not be played on Saturdays due to the Reds participating in the Europa League group stage on the preceding Thursdays. The new provisional dates for those five games are listed below but they remain subject to a change of day, for example from Sunday to Monday, and kick-off times will not be confirmed until the next rounds of TV selections are made.

raumdeuter:
Neuer Won a World cup won a CL, 3rd Balon dor Golden glove award winner 2014
Buffon won a world cup, 2nd Balon dor, Golden glove award winner 2006
Kahn won a CL, 3rd Balon dor, Best player in a CL final, Best player in a world cup, Golden glove winner 2002
Casillas Won a CL, Won a World cup, Golden glove winner 2010

Cech isnt on these level

Mr Ramuzaki, kindly rate Fabian Barthez...

Thanks.

Dadehmola:
Mr Ramuzaki, kindly rate Fabian Barthez...

Thanks.

Lmao... Hows Neurer better than Cech??
The same Neuer that chop 7 against United while at Schalke.

Neuer like Valdez, is very lucky to play in team where they doninate possession against opponents most of the time.
He is very good but not yet a GK icon

joeace2020:
Madrid are known to flaunt their muscles when there's not even a need for it. You call a player best in the world or best in anything and Madrid come snooping. Wasn't it recently Ancelloti talked about how Madrid got Odegaard for PR reasons. That talent just wasted for a show off. A lot of Madrid fans till today still have reservations for bale. Is he better than Ronaldo to cost that much, wat about pushing out ozil and dobby for James. Madrid spend for spending sake and pray they gel. Madrid made football fees become what they are today. Brought greed and lack of honour to the game. Glad united stepped up the game with De Gea and now Pogba, even though i don't want Pogba

yea...you have valid points..feck madrid

raumdeuter:
Cech is still better than the set of DDG Cortouis Leno Navas but not on the iconic level of Kahn, Neuer, Buffon and Casillas. If we extend it further we would include Schmeichel

Unless your analogy is based on international caps and titles, I don't see how Casillas would better Cech. Casillas had a long lucky career for Spain (since he was 19) at a time when Spain dominated. But one on one, Cech is better. Even DDG is better than Casillas.

kokaneprodigy:
As it stands real madrid still beats manure to wealth rank. Manure is 3rd behind Barca.
There is a difference between financial recklessness being fueled by desperation and the picture you are trying to paint like manure is richer than madrid. This is far from the truth.

Just saying....

you've no idea what you are talking about. Manchester United didn't start financial recklessness. Real Madrid always wear that bully tag even when Manchester United had number one position on the finance log. that has gone on for so long and with the Glazer takeover and subsequent drain or wedge they inflicted on the purse of the club, Real Madrid became even more annoying. do you know how much the club has given out servicing Glazer's debt? invest that in the squad and from 2008 and imagine what could have been.

in case you don't know there's no amount of money Real Madrid can offer a player that Manchester United cannot double and still not feel the sting of it, those cosmetic rankings are for the sake of it.

joeace2020:
I am not arguing the fact of who is richer here. The fact is what the press is saying is that Madrid are not prepared to meet united's valuation of Pogba. one because of ffp, so they have to sell big to get pogba, two because the money united is offering is outrageous for a player in such position. All of these put madrid in a tight corner, buy a player for PR reasons or buy for the team. With the rising global fanbase for united and mega deals as well, Madrid, Barca are sure the wont stay above United for long so not rich enough argument cannot hold sway, see how close united is to the first two and far from Bayern and the rest.

The bolded is my exact point, madrid do not desperately need Pogba as to pay that much for him. Not translating it to mean they can't afford it, or can't match United.

ChristineC:
you've no idea what you are talking about. Manchester United didn't start financial recklessness. Real Madrid always wear that bully tag even when Manchester United had number one position on the finance log. that has gone on for so long and with the Glazer takeover and subsequent drain or wedge they inflicted on the purse of the club, Real Madrid became even more annoying. do you know how much the club has given out servicing Glazer's debt? invest that in the squad and from 2008 and imagine what could have been.

I concur

in case you don't know there's no amount of money Real Madrid can offer a player that Manchester United cannot double and still not feel the sting of it

all top 8 clubs financially can achieve this

Those cosmetic rankings are for the sake of it.

What do u even mean by this? That u are more privy to their books than Forbes?

Seems Koeman is after Mata. I think Jose selling him in his 1st season may not be good for the team psychologically.

If we sign Pogba for £100m. We're mugs.
If Real Madrid do for similar amount and let go someone like Kroos go. They are mugs.
If Juve dont snatch the money off whichever mug bids close to £100m then, yup, you guessed it, they are mugs.
Pogba is a good talented player but his value has been doubled here.
His agent is a legend and a genius.

I feel Mourinho should leave this Pogba matter.

I know its not my money but 100-120M for Pogba get as e be.

If he comes mourinho, this next season must win the league, FA cup, coca cola abi na carling, europa and even UCL that he will not participate to justify the buy.

Someone don write say we can buy the whole Juve club for $250M and we wan buy 1 player for 120M.

God dey.

Pogba is leaving Turin,. Though Juve would love to keep him... But, wait. £100 Million.... . A,m not sure juve will reject that phat sum


Mark this page Pogba is signing for us.... Though I don't like the idea

Dadehmola:
Mr Ramuzaki, kindly rate Fabian Barthez...

Thanks.

Fabien Barthez is just like a Jens Lehmann never an icon of goalkeeping

Never made it to Balon d or podium

codedguy1:
Someone don write say we can buy the whole Juve club for $250M and we wan buy 1 player for 120M.

God dey.

Dats just some joke bro. juventus is the ninth richest club in the world valued at over a billion dollars. don't just follow what "someone write"

raumdeuter:
Fabien Barthez is just like a Jens Lehmann never an icon of goalkeeping

Never made it to Balon d or podium

in terms of shot stopping Manuel Neuer is average. he has other talents usually used for showboating just like Victor Valdez and is lucky to play for Germany. he is not even a better shot stopper than Vincent Enyeama. the outcome of the 2014 world cup wouldn't have been any different if Vincent manned the post for Germany.

tess1:
This was your initial statement. There's no need shifting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrRvA6wDMM8

lol how is this different from Carroll

ChristineC:
in terms of shot stopping Manuel Neuer is average. he has other talents usually used for showboating just like Victor Valdez and is lucky to play for Germany. he is not even a better shot stopper than Vincent Enyeama. the outcome of the 2014 world cup wouldn't have been any different if Vincent manned the post for Germany.

Lol this is hilarious

Neuer is average and fortunate to play for Bayern and Germany, Boateng is average and fortunate to play for Bayern and Germany, Muller is fortunate to play for Bayern and Germany

Yet these people are the common denominator in both teams. All of them are average its some goblins that are playing the ball for them and they are just gettting the plaudits

Did Valdes also get on the Balon dor podium?

SailorXY:
lol how is this different from Carroll

Except when you add a world cup, A CL, a Balon dor nomination, a golden glove, and UEFA best player in Europe runner up you have a Neuer

lekkie073:
Dats just some joke bro. juventus is the ninth richest club in the world valued at over a billion dollars. don't just follow what "someone write"

I agree it was a joke. I wish he goes to Madrid and we bid for/get Kroos with that money and still have change.

Our lack of UCL is not really hampering our targets. I think.

raumdeuter:
Except when you add a world cup, A CL, a Balon dor nomination, a golden glove, and UEFA best player in Europe runner up you have a Neuer

oga if you think Neuer is a goalkeeping icon, that is your own wahala. Like someone pointed earlier, Fabian Barthez can also beat his chest about it.

When you hear Neuer what comes to your mind is sweeper keeper. What is that?
Which other goalkeeper do you remember for "sweeping"?

SailorXY:
oga if you think Neuer is a goalkeeping icon, that is your own wahala. Like someone pointed earlier, Fabian Barthez can also beat his chest about it.

When you hear Neuer what comes to your mind is sweeper keeper. What is that?
Which other goalkeeper do you remember for "sweeping"?

When anyone talks of the best keeper in the world majority of people currently think Manuel neuer. Google world best keeper if you bring 10 articles 8 of them would have Neuer as Number 1

When would Barthez beat his chest about winning a CL trophy, when would Barthez beat his chest about getting on Balon dor podium, when would Barthez beat his chest about being runner up in Europe

raumdeuter:
Neuer Won a World cup won a CL, 3rd Balon dor Golden glove award winner 2014
Buffon won a world cup, 2nd Balon dor, Golden glove award winner 2006
Kahn won a CL, 3rd Balon dor, Best player in a CL final, Best player in a world cup, Golden glove winner 2002
Casillas Won a CL, Won a World cup, Golden glove winner 2010

Cech isnt on these level

If cech isnt on that level it would be because he isn't from a strong football nation(even still he has made a quarter and semi - final in his international career) Not because he dosent have the talent or not consistent. To me Cech is right up there with them. The two champions league finals we made he performed excellently.

*modified* Cech has won a CL, best goalkeeper in euro 2004, most Caps for his country,

Cech is known for shot stopping & command of his area
van der Sar is known for the same + accurate long passes
de Gea is known for shot stopping & great reflexes
Schmeichel is known for shot stopping, command of area & motivator
Kahn same thing
Cassilas is known for shot stopping & great reflexes
Even Barthez is known for something!
Neuer is known for sweeping but very average @ primary assignment... yet somebody is trying to sell us circus for 'icon' because he's German

Let's compare Neuer and Degae at 25.

dubylhover:
okk..I personally hope that he's right,that pogba wants Madrid ahead of united

Don't listen to that stupid dude anymore. He's a bitter cnut who hates United. He's so salty that Madrid can't match up the fee Juventus want for Pogba. Check out his Twitter, he's getting trolled massively.

Now I want this Pogba transfer to happen more than ever, even for £120 million, I don't care.

SailorXY:
Cech is known for shot stopping & command of his area
van der Sar is known for the same + accurate long passes
de Gea is known for shot stopping & great reflexes
Schmeichel is known for shot stopping, command of area & motivator
Kahn same thing
Cassilas is known for shot stopping & great reflexes
Even Barthez is known for something!
Neuer is known for sweeping but very average @ primary assignment... yet somebody is trying to sell us circus for 'icon' because he's German

I am sure its Germans that rate him as the world best keeper currently unanimously.

its Germans that made him Balon dor nominee

Its Germans that made him runner up in Europe best player

Its Germans that won gave him a CL medal

its germans that made him a world cup medal

Odunharry:
Let's compare Neuer and Degae at 25.

Lets compare Suarez and Robinho at age 20

It's the World Cup win that encourages Neuer hype.

Those who watch the world cups in 2010 and 2014 know that Casilas was far more influential in Spain World Cup win than Neuer for Germany.



I could make a video showing a compilations of all errors Neuer made and how many stupid goals he conceded because of his stupid antics just for this season alone you guys would be surprised because they're quite numerous. It would take De Gea 3 calendar years at least to match those magnitude of failures Neuer incurred in his time.

I knew of De Gea's greatness when he was voted 2nd best keeper in world when his team finished 4th and trophy less and when he was still named the best keeper in the PL when he finished 5th.
De Gea at 19 became the starting keeper for Atletico and winning the Europa, while Neuer was just making his professional debut at that age.

Unfortunately for De Gea, Spain domination of world football is pretty much over. Spain won't win the World Cup or Euros in the next 10-15 years unless a miracle happens.

Spending 100 mill on Kroos is a much better option than Pogba sef.

GBR1:
It's the World Cup win that encourages Neuer hype.

Those who watch the world cups in 2010 and 2014 know that Casilas was far more influential in Spain World Cup win than Neuer for Germany.

I could make a video showing a compilations of all errors Neuer made and how many stupid goals he conceded because of his stupid antics just for this season alone you guys would be surprised because they're quite numerous. It would take De Gea 3 calendar years at least to match those magnitude of failures Neuer incurred in his time.

Pre Bayern, Neuer is just an "Ok" keeper.

At 25, his achievement doesn't even come close to De Gae's today.
He is 30 while David is 25..
5years ago Befr his move to Bayern, he is not better than De Gae

raumdeuter:
Cech is still better than the set of DDG Cortouis Leno Navas but not on the iconic level of Kahn, Neuer, Buffon and Casillas. If we extend it further we would include Schmeichel

But the body that rates goalkeeper on yearly basis and has rated the best keepers in the last 25 years, rated VDS and Schmeichel higher than Kahn.

I have no problem with Neuer, because I have been a fan of Neuer since we played against him while he was at Schalke 04. I have no doubt that he is the world best keeper now and has been for some time.

raumdeuter:
Fabien Barthez is just like a Jens Lehmann never an icon of goalkeeping

Never made it to Balon d or podium

Are u kidding me...You have a poor way of arguing your points. So the ballon dor podium is the only place meant for football icons...Anyone that never got there was just good but not good enough. Fantastic logic. Watch how you will rope yourself into trouble with time which i am sure will happen soon when you begin to defend other flops in your team as icons with another flawed criteria. Maybe it would winning the world cup...ohh wait! thats were u started from...lol