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raumdeuter:
Lets compare Suarez and Robinho at age 20

elampiro:
But the body that rates goalkeeper on yearly basis and has rated the best keepers in the last 25 years, rated VDS and Schmeichel higher than Kahn.

I have no problem with Neuer, because I have been a fan of Neuer since we played against him while he was at Schalke 04. I have no doubt that he is the world best keeper now and has been for some time.

raumdeuter:
Yes. World cup winner, Ballon Dor winner.

ChristineC:
in terms of shot stopping Manuel Neuer is average. he has other talents usually used for showboating just like Victor Valdez and is lucky to play for Germany. he is not even a better shot stopper than Vincent Enyeama. the outcome of the 2014 world cup wouldn't have been any different if Vincent manned the post for Germany.

elampiro:
But the body that rates goalkeeper on yearly basis and has rated the best keepers in the last 25 years, rated VDS and Schmeichel higher than Kahn.

I have no problem with Neuer, because I have been a fan of Neuer since we played against him while he was at Schalke 04. I have no doubt that he is the world best keeper now and has been for some time.

Odunharry:
One is a CF, the other is not.

Odunharry:
One is a CF, the other is not.

joeace2020:
Are u kidding me...You have a poor way of arguing your points. So the ballon dor podium is the only place meant for football icons...Anyone that never got there was just good but not good enough. Fantastic logic. Watch how you will rope yourself into trouble with time which i am sure will happen soon when you begin to defend other flops in your team as icons with another flawed criteria. Maybe it would winning the world cup...ohh wait! thats were u started from...lol

raumdeuter:
Robinho and Ribery at 20?

Odunharry:
This is just it.. Neuer is good..infact very good.. I liked him from his Schalke days but putting Neuer in the same sentence with Buffon, Casillas and even saying he's better than Cech is a No No to me and most people here.

raumdeuter:
Fabien Barthez is just like a Jens Lehmann never an icon of goalkeeping

Never made it to Balon d or podium

raumdeuter:
Thats why I am always consistent

Neuer is the best keeper currently by a huge gap

joeace2020:
shapeshifting as usual...No longer Robinho and Suarez...You nor know ball.

raumdeuter:
Thats why I am always consistent

Neuer is the best keeper currently by a huge gap

Dadehmola:
But he won the CL & worldcup

joeace2020:
stop using the word consistent. You are like a kid telling ppl he has a rich father and nobody freaking cares. You are never consistent. Neuer is never and will never be the best. The depreciation in real talents in the game has made that flop looking like a star. Ever watched Neuer in penalties...as poor as they go..i'll rate romero over him. Simple jump of a keeper..punch a ball coming into a crowded defence and wat does ur best in the world do...Make an assist. He though this was Germany, where he doesn't know if he is a keeper, defender or a midfielder.

raumdeuter:
That body gives an award called world keeper of the year, How many times did VDS win it, how many times did Kahn win it

Kahn was the Man of the match in a CL final, Best player at a world cup, The goalkeeping heroics of Kahn, VDS never matched it

Odunharry:
Atlético Madrid
UEFA Europa League : 2009–10
UEFA Super Cup : 2010


Manchester United
Premier League : 2012–13
FA Cup: 2015–16
FA Community Shield : 2011 , 2013


International
Spain U17
UEFA European Under-17 Championship :
2007
Spain U21
UEFA European Under-21 Championship :
2011 , 2013


Individual
UEFA European Under-21 Championship
Team of the Tournament: 2011 , 2013


Premier League PFA Team of the Year :
2012–13 , 2014–15 , 2015–16


PFA Fans' Player of the Month: November
2014


Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year : 2013–
14, 2014–15, 2015–16


Manchester United Players' Player of the
Year: 2013–14, 2014–15


UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season:
2015–16


That's some of De Gae achievement at 25...

GBR1:
Don't listen to that stupid dude anymore. He's a bitter cnut who hates United. He's so salty that Madrid can't match up the fee Juventus want for Pogba. Check out his Twitter, he's getting trolled massively.

Now I want this Pogba transfer to happen more than ever, even for £120 million, I don't care.

elampiro:
The number of times individual keepers won it wouldn't count anymore when the same body used same metrics to make an assessment covering 25 years period. It is just like saying Messi has won the Ballon D'or 5 times but many experts still ask if he is as good as Maradona.

raumdeuter:
Your lack of logic is why you dont get the analogy, where players are rated at any age concerns nobody

At a time Mikel was top 3 player under 21, How many players in that age category have beaten him now

Zidane at 20-25 wasnt even rated by most while some people who cant clean his boots right now were ranked highly

joeace2020:
Ogbeni....you goofed. If you like compare caroll with ben foster

raumdeuter:
That body gives an award called world keeper of the year, How many times did VDS win it, how many times did Kahn win it

Kahn was the Man of the match in a CL final, Best player at a world cup, The goalkeeping heroics of Kahn, VDS never matched it

raumdeuter:
What does this mean? achievement at 25? Go check Robinhos achievement before 23 and tell us where he is today when ranking footballers

SailorXY:
you mean Kahn was player of the tournament or what?

Odunharry:
Wetin concern Robinho and DeGae / Neuer??
Baba u can shift post sha..
Na u dem suppose call Ijapa... See sense

Dutch Football Goalkeeper of the Year (4): 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997

Best European Goalkeeper (2): 1995, 2009

ESM Team of the Year (2): 1995–96, 2008–09

FIFA World Cup All-Star Team (1): 1998 (Reserve)

Dutch Golden Shoe (1): 1998

IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper (2): Bronze ball 1998, 2008

FIFA FIFPro World XI Nominee (6): 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

PFA Premier League Team of the Year (3): 2006–07, 2008–09, 2010–11

UEFA Champions League Man of the match: Final 2007–08

UEFA Euro 2008 Team of the Tournament

Barclays Merit Award (1): 2008–09

Barclays Golden Glove (1): 2008–09

UEFA Club Goalkeeper of the Year (1): 2009

Records

Worldwide league record keeping clean sheet (1,311 minutes, set in 2008–09 Premier League)

First goalkeeper to keep 50 clean sheets in the UEFA Champions League

raumdeuter:
Robinho is an example of what you win at 25 doesnt count. Its what you achieve all your career.

Its like saying Suarez is the best striker now and someone saying Suarez 23 vs Harry Kane at 23

raumdeuter:
Yes thats exactly what I mean Golden ball winner

SailorXY:
Individual Awards for van der Sar

SailorXY:
Individual Awards for van der Sar