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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:48pm On Jul 09, 2016
Odunharry:
Suarez is 29 currently.. At 23, he performed well for Ajax.
Suarez at 23 helped is team to the Semis of the Mundial ...Scored the winner vs S. Korea he was MOTM twice at the Mundial in 2010, Played 6match and score thrice for Uruguay.. etc etc .

At 23, he's better than Kane.
At 23 Kane is EPL top scorer and UEFA ranks EPL above Dutch league

My point is you no one care what you are at some age.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 1:48pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
What does this mean? achievement at 25? Go check Robinhos achievement before 23 and tell us where he is today when ranking footballers
you know i kinda seem to agree with joeace2000.I remember well that one of the reasons you dont rate Hazard is because at his age Messi, Ronaldo etc have won more titles, made the podium severally blah blah. Unfortunately you got a saving grace in the fact that even if the both of them decide to retire completely from footie today they have achieved at least at club level.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 1:55pm On Jul 09, 2016
SailorXY:
you mean Kahn was player of the tournament or what?
yeah the guy was extremely good to be sincere. Had it been it was Kahn, Buffon or even Casillas he rated above Cech. I wouldn't have bathed a eyelid cos they more than deserved it but Neuer rara o. There is nothing anyone can tell me maybe because am a Chelsea Fan sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:57pm On Jul 09, 2016
pamcode:
you know i kinda seem to agree with joeace2000.I remember well that one of the reasons you dont rate Hazard is because at his age Messi, Ronaldo etc have won more titles, made the podium severally blah blah. Unfortunately you got a saving grace in the fact that even if the both of them decide to retire completely from footie today they have achieved at least at club level.
Hazard would be 26 in 6 months what has he achieved in football. My point about Hazard is that you were calling him a small boy, once you enter professional football no one is a small boy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:59pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
At 23 Kane is EPL top scorer and UEFA ranks EPL above Dutch league

My point is you no one care what you are at some age.
Lmao.. Is the Epl now greater than the Mundial??
U decided to skip the exploit of Sua sua In 2010 mundial also??Someone who won two Man of the match, help his team to the Semis, scored three in 6 appearance??
Is it not Kane that didn't score a goal in the on going Euro cup??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Jul 09, 2016
Odunharry:
Lmao.. Is the Epl now greater than the Mundial??
U decided to skip the exploit of Sua sua In 2010 mundial also??Someone who won two Man of the match, help his team to the Semis, scored three in 6 appearance??
Is it not Kane that didn't score a goal in the on going Euro cup??
Was Suarez top scorer at the mundial?

This argument isnt about Suarez or Kane. My point is once you enter professional football, your age becomes irrelevant. The best player in the world can be any age nothing to do with your age. Dele Alli was making team of the season as a 20yr old beating several older people
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 2:11pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Hazard would be 26 in 6 months what has he achieved in football. My point about Hazard is that you were calling him a small boy, once you enter professional football no one is a small boy.
what has he achieved? Here they are:



Ligue 1: 2010–11
Coupe de France : 2010–11
Chelsea
Premier League : 2014–15
Football League Cup: 2014–15
UEFA Europa League : 2012–13
Individual
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–
11 , 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2):
2008–09 , 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–
10 , 2010–11 , 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,
[277] March 2011, [278] March 2012
Premier League Player of the Season (1):
2014–15
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2014–15
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2014–
15
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2013–14
PFA Team of the Year (3): 2012–13 , 2013–
14 , 2014–15
ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15 [279]
Chelsea Player of the Year (2): 2013–14 ,
2014–15
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year (1):
2014–15
Bravo Award (1): 2011
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 2:15pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Was Suarez top scorer at the mundial?

This argument isnt about Suarez or Kane. My point is once you enter professional football, your age becomes irrelevant. The best player in the world can be any age nothing to do with your age. Dele Alli was making team of the season as a 20yr old beating several older people
That's not the argument and u keep bringing up different players.

We all know De Gae is still young and can still improve . For most keeper they get Better as they age.
For De Gaes age, he's doing very well to be listed among top Gk in the past year or currently.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:19pm On Jul 09, 2016
Odunharry:
That's not the argument and u keep bringing up different players.

We all know De Gae is still young and can still improve . For most keeper they get Better as they age.
For De Gaes age, he's doing very well to be listed among top Gk in the past year or currently.
He can still improve but he cant be listed as a goalkeeping great until he gets to that level. When he gets to that level we can talk. For now he isnt anywhere close

When people saw Marko marin at 19 they thought by the time he is 25 he would be better than Messi
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:22pm On Jul 09, 2016
pamcode:
what has he achieved? Here they are:
Ligue 1: 2010–11
Coupe de France : 2010–11
Chelsea
Premier League : 2014–15
Football League Cup: 2014–15
UEFA Europa League : 2012–13
Individual
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–
11 , 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2):
2008–09 , 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–
10 , 2010–11 , 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,
[277] March 2011, [278] March 2012
Premier League Player of the Season (1):
2014–15
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2014–15
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2014–
15
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2013–14
PFA Team of the Year (3): 2012–13 , 2013–
14 , 2014–15
ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15 [279]
Chelsea Player of the Year (2): 2013–14 ,
2014–15
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year (1):
2014–15
Bravo Award (1): 2011
if you are comparing Hazard to Iheanacho then you can say he has done very well

but when we are talking about elite players these na beans.

I told you guys Hazard was good until you guys started comparing him to his Gods like neymar, Ronaldo etc
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 2:25pm On Jul 09, 2016
GBR1:
Don't listen to that stupid dude anymore. He's a bitter cnut who hates United. He's so salty that Madrid can't match up the fee Juventus want for Pogba. Check out his Twitter, he's getting trolled massively.

Now I want this Pogba transfer to happen more than ever, even for £120 million, I don't care.
you got something personal against him?
i honestly don't want d pogba deal to b succesful
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:47pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
VDS didnt even win the award once. while Kahn won it multiple times.

Kahm was the best player in a world cup, Man of the match in a CL final, Balon dor runner up
You are repeating yourself instead of addressing my point. My point is that there is an aggregation of points over a period which put Kahn behind VDS and Schmeichel.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On Jul 09, 2016
elampiro:
You are repeating yourself instead of addressing my point. My point is that there is an aggregation of points over a period which put Kahn behind VDS and Schmeichel.
There is no aggregation of points. Kahn has been keeper of the year multiple times VDS never won once

Its like saying Suarez who never won Balon dor is better than Ronaldo who won multiple times

Kahn in multiple years was the best VDS was never the best in any year
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:51pm On Jul 09, 2016
Guillem Balague tells BBC Radio 5: "Paul Pogba is Manchester United-bound. Real Madrid have abandoned the auction."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 2:54pm On Jul 09, 2016
tongue



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Dedicated 2 all the dreamers:








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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:56pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
There is no aggregation of points. Kahn has been keeper of the year multiple times VDS never won once

Its like saying Suarez who never won Balon dor is better than Ronaldo who won multiple times

Kahn in multiple years was the best VDS was never the best in any year
I see how you tactically left out Schmeichel in the equation.

Stam and Maldini never won Ballon D'or, I believe they are better than Cannavaro.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:57pm On Jul 09, 2016
Axel Tuanzebe and Tyrell Warren are two Man Utd youngsters who could make their debuts in Jose Mourinho's first pre-season match vs Wigan.

Over 7,000 Manchester United supporters will be in attendance for the club's trip to Wigan next week.

The decision to play at Wigan has been well received among matchgoers. For those United supporters eager to watch Jose Mourinho's Reds but unable to afford a flight to China.

United will be deprived of 14 players next week. 11 were included in Euro 2016 squads, while Marcos Rojo, Sergio Romero and Antonio Valencia featured for their countries at the Copa America.

Mourinho will be bereft of four United strikers, so James Wilson might have the chance, the same applies to Sam Johnstone.

Valencia and Matteo Darmian are on holiday which gives Timothy Fosu-Mensah a chance with Guillermo Varela the only recognised right-back.

Eric Bailly and Daley Blind might be able to play unless Mourinho decides on Jones in the centre.

Ander Herrera, Michael Carrick and Juan Mata are available and Memphis could capitalise on Anthony Martial's participation at Euro2016 as United's left winger.

Jesse Lingard could liekly play and Henrikh Mkhitaryan should be available for his debut

But the biggest cheer of the afternoon when the line-ups are announced at the DW might be for Luke Shaw.

[Source: M.E.N] #MUFC #Mourinho
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:11pm On Jul 09, 2016
elampiro:
I see how you tactically left out Schmeichel in the equation.

Stam and Maldini never won Ballon D'or, I believe they are better than Cannavaro.
I stated 20yrs and Schmeichels peak was a little earlier than that he would have been mentioned somewhere if we are talking of 30yrs

If we are talking of great defeders we can entertain Maldini, Stam though good wasnt in the class of Canavarro, Sammer and Maldini
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:16pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
I stated 20yrs and Schmeichels peak was a little earlier than that he would have been mentioned somewhere if we are talking of 30yrs

If we are talking of great defeders we can entertain Maldini, Stam though good wasnt in the class of Canavarro, Sammer and Maldini
What made Stam not in that class?

I saw nothing special in Cannavaro, except having an excellent world cup and a one or two superb seasons.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:21pm On Jul 09, 2016
elampiro:
Guillem Balague tells BBC Radio 5: "Paul Pogba is Manchester United-bound. Real Madrid have abandoned the auction."
gbam..d horse has spoken..gbr1,we have xchanged,now i hope that hes actually wrong
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:29pm On Jul 09, 2016
dubylhover:
gbam..d horse has spoken..gbr1,we have xchanged,now i hope that hes actually wrong
Listen to him here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1025740137508474&id=112070568875440
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:35pm On Jul 09, 2016
dubylhover:
gbam..d horse has spoken..gbr1,we have xchanged,now i hope that hes actually wrong
You still don't get the "either or" tricks of that mo'fucker, do you?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY:
elampiro:
What made Stam not in that class?

I saw nothing special in Cannavaro, except having an excellent world cup and a one or two superb seasons.
SAF said letting Stam go was a decision he regretted till he left the game, & although Rio didn't disappoint as a replacement he felt he was hasty in his decision.

Raumdeuter is only obsessed with one award or the other forgetting this sport is not golf. In sheer footballing abilities Maldini & Stam tower above Cannavaro, for me it's no contest.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:44pm On Jul 09, 2016
elampiro:
Axel Tuanzebe and Tyrell Warren are two Man Utd youngsters who could make their debuts in Jose Mourinho's first pre-season match vs Wigan.

Over 7,000 Manchester United supporters will be in attendance for the club's trip to Wigan next week.

The decision to play at Wigan has been well received among matchgoers. For those United supporters eager to watch Jose Mourinho's Reds but unable to afford a flight to China.

United will be deprived of 14 players next week. 11 were included in Euro 2016 squads, while Marcos Rojo, Sergio Romero and Antonio Valencia featured for their countries at the Copa America.

Mourinho will be bereft of four United strikers, so James Wilson might have the chance, the same applies to Sam Johnstone.

Valencia and Matteo Darmian are on holiday which gives Timothy Fosu-Mensah a chance with Guillermo Varela the only recognised right-back.

Eric Bailly and Daley Blind might be able to play unless Mourinho decides on Jones in the centre.

Ander Herrera, Michael Carrick and Juan Mata are available and Memphis could capitalise on Anthony Martial's participation at Euro2016 as United's left winger.

Jesse Lingard could liekly play and Henrikh Mkhitaryan should be available for his debut

But the biggest cheer of the afternoon when the line-ups are announced at the DW might be for Luke Shaw.

[Source: M.E.N] #MUFC #Mourinho
What happened to januzaj?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
What happened to januzaj?
You are blessed for mentioning the name of Januzaj. Who cares whether Lingard or Memphis plays or not?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 4:55pm On Jul 09, 2016
SailorXY:
You still don't get the "either or" tricks of that mo'fucker, do you?
he doesnt teleport to d future to know outcomes,so yes educated guesses are welcome..im even sure pogba currently doesnt know whr he would play nxt season,so how do you xpect balague to know?what im saying is that news he breaks is as legit as you can get...at least he works with a reputable site..it shud count for sth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:06pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Robinho and Ribery at 20?
Neuer better than cech? You dey F up sha i swear. huh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:06pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
What happened to januzaj?
Januzaj is there with the rest na. He must now be aware talent alone won't make him succeed, he needs to buckle down & earn a spot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Jul 09, 2016
hensben:
Neuer better than cech? You dey F up sha i swear. huh
Neuer currently is better than Cech at his best.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:14pm On Jul 09, 2016
SailorXY:
Januzaj is there with the rest na. He must now be aware talent alone won't make him succeed, he needs to buckle down & earn a spot.
As I no see him name naim make me ask.

Honestly I can't wait to see all these guys play under Mourinho, their attitude will even make us really understand what LvG did to this club.

We expect to see a stable well oiled, fluent and purposeful team that would give everything everytime even when they lose a game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:21pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Neuer currently is better than Cech at his best.
Overall, cech>>>neuer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:28pm On Jul 09, 2016
SailorXY:
SAF said letting Stam go was a decision he regretted till he left the game, & although Rio didn't disappoint as a replacement he felt he was hasty in his decision.

Raumdeuter is only obsessed with one award or the other forgetting this sport is golf. In sheer footballing abilities Maldini & Stam tower above Cannavaro, for me it's no contest.
Exactly.
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