It is an interesting observation. However, it isnt farfetched if one posits that it is a sociological phenomenon. Let me illustrate.

It is 1/10 likely that a pastor would come from the North to start with for obvious reasons.

It is 1/100 likely that an igbo man will leave his trade and heed Gods call. He will tell God that nna who go dey my shop? That was a joke. The reality is that igbos are predominantly catholics. The lutherans among them are by external influences.

Since yorubas are more of christians and lutherans, it is most likely that they pastor in a pentecostal religious establishment.

Furthermore, there is an issue of trust and "eye service" which only yoruba people can comprehend. An igbo man wont put up with that shit. He would rather break up like p square and start his own church in the pentecostal movement.

josephni12:
I've personally noticed something peculiar to the Redeemed Christian church of God which I am not comfortable with. The Bible warns that we should not give chance for people to question our faith our unity in the body of Christ. In other churches, like deeper life, chosen, mountain on fire etc state and regional pastorship have always been of people of different tribes as the case may be,

But it's not so with in Redeemed Christian Church of God were MOST (not ALL about (86%)). of their regional / state pastors are most Yoruba's in almost every state in nigeria. Is it that the people mostly trusted to be Good pastors to handle that PARTICULAR POSITION are from one particular tribe? This is what is happening currently in our Government. Please, constructive criticism no tribalism.

Related: https://trccg.org/rccg/who-we-are/leadership-of-the-rccg/

i get ur point but u must understand dat for u to be a regional pastor in rccg u must hv likely spent 20+ years as a pastor. if u observe carefully u will note that during the 80s and early 90s the spread of rccg was mainly in the south west with most of the pastors frm dat region. i believe in the next 20+ years tins will naturally balance up

Are you surprised. To a Yoruba man every thing is Tribalism Even the blood of Jesus can not wash tribalism from their heart. It is worst in churhes founded by Yoruba's.

Kangol99:
From the general look of Christianity in Nigeria you can testify that the Yorubas are making the largest contribution than any other tribe. I think that's the reason why. This is not tribalism but an observation.

Are you a joker or what?

Are we not talking of the Yoruba population that is almost evenly matched between Islam and Christianity? I think your problem is that you probably have not gone outside the South West.

What do we say about the South East and South South where the christian population is over 90 percent or what contribution are you talking about?

linearity:
Not correct and misleading...."John baptized you with water, but I will baptize you with the Holy Ghost, did you noticed the one that came first?

Not misleading in any way. Cornelius received the holy ghost baptism before he was water baptized and many other people in bible while some didn't receive until after water baptism. Which ever one comes first. What matters is that u receive both
Try to study your bible before correcting people. Cheers

Horsesmouth:
It is an interesting observation. However, it isnt farfetched if one posits that it is a sociological phenomenon. Let me illustrate.

It is 1/10 likely that a pastor would come from the North to start with for obvious reasons.

It is 1/100 likely that an igbo man will leave his trade and heed Gods call. He will tell God that nna who go dey my shop? That was a joke. The reality is that igbos are predominantly catholics. The lutherans among them are by external influences.

Since yorubas are more of christians and lutherans, it is most likely that they pastor in a pentecostal religious establishment.

Furthermore, there is an issue of trust and "eye service" which only yoruba people can comprehend. An igbo man wont put up with that shit. He would rather break up like p square and start his own church in the pentecostal movement.

What crap are you typing here?

Zico5:
Haba, u have already introduced tribalism. Must u people fight and argue over everything, must everything comes from ur tribe. For instance, go to zenith and diamond banks that belong to igbo, most of their managers are igbo. Have u ever seen anyone complaining. This is too bad my friend. This kind of nature will never lead us anywhere as a country.

You forgot to mention Fidelity.

pneumaticos:


From a cultural perspective, yorubas are more committed to religious activity than any other tribe, its rooted in their culture

I think apostle suleman has spoken along this line before

Gentleman, I take exception to your remarks above.
I am fron SS, a devout catholic, I go for daily mass.
What other commitment to religion is greater than that please?

Must I boot-lick a fellow human being pastor that is preaching the word of God after shagging his wife?
When God calls the human pastor, does he call the wife too?
Why is there unhealthy competition for church positions in those pentecostal movements?

maestroferddi:
What crap are you typing here?

I didnt know we were allowed to abuse.
Type your own crap too now, who is holding you?

Handsomecole:
What's my own proudly Roman Catholic. Church formed by no man but Jesus Christ himself.

?? Jesus never formed any Roman church... please read more..not justb what u are told. you can start by reading about the eastern orthodox, coptic christians etc... it will help you.
it was the Romans the most powful nation at dat time dat tried to form a structure similar to their governing provinces

KingsleyTMTTM:
so what's the big deal, most chosen pastors are ibo. and so what

You have a point that most pastors at Chosen are Igbos.

However, I watched a church planting programme/clip by Lazarus Muoka who was establishing a parish/branch of Chosen at Ibadan. He chose a Yoruba man as the head pastor at least to show that he understands decorum and practicality.

RCCG should look into this issue about Yorubanisation of the church. I am neither a member of Chosen nor RCCG but people do murmur, you know...

josephni12:
I've personally noticed something peculiar to the Redeemed Christian church of God which I am not comfortable with. The Bible warns that we should not give chance for people to question our faith our unity in the body of Christ. In other churches, like deeper life, chosen, mountain on fire etc state and regional pastorship have always been of people of different tribes as the case may be,

But it's not so with in Redeemed Christian Church of God were MOST (not ALL about (86%)). of their regional / state pastors are most Yoruba's in almost every state in nigeria. Is it that the people mostly trusted to be Good pastors to handle that PARTICULAR POSITION are from one particular tribe? This is what is happening currently in our Government. Please, constructive criticism no tribalism.

Related: https://trccg.org/rccg/who-we-are/leadership-of-the-rccg/

What is your mission in house of God? Where were the Igbos and other tribes when the church was founded, when the Church started barely with nothing. Those people you are envying today has been in the church when thing were not as rossy as it is today. So you want the trustees of the Church to neglect those that have been tested over the years for those that joined when the soup has been perfected. We should always lookout for things that will unite us not irrelevant topic that will put the unity of the Church and the nation in jeopardy. Pls get busy!

Kangol99:
From the general look of Christianity in Nigeria you can testify that the Yorubas are making the largest contribution than any other tribe. I think that's the reason why. This is not tribalism but an observation.

Not in catholic and anglican churches.

There is no yorubanisation and RCCG is not "the church". RCCG is "a church".
Every association is free to choose their own rules.

Besides, the 12 disciples were palestinians and israelis. After the ressurection they went from corinth all the way to india and china.

Why were they not saying in capernaum that why is apostle paul that is from judea preaching to us?

Evangelism is evangelism please.

DedeNkem:


For the fact your bible says "you should not give chance for people to question our faith", shows there's something wrong! If your religion was good you would give people chance to question it!

you are confused

kekakuz:
[size=20pt]. Some peoples thinking are slant.
why are the chosen pastors always Igbo [/size]

I wonder .even most of the songs are igbotic.

GlorifiedTunde:
It is a general phenomena I have noticed. But RCCG is still better.

How many churches founded by igbo men of God have Yoruba pastors?

I think its just better you work with those whom you can understand better.

Besides igbos have a way of turning Church to business, they start striving for posts like its business

I am speaking from experience. You Igbos are not as tolerant as Yorubas.

If given the opportunity, u will populate the entire pastorate with your tribe and send the founder's tribe packing.

are you drunk? What fvcking experience... The catholics priesthood is dominated by the igbos, why isn't it an avenue? No the igbos aren't as tolerant as yorubas, they don't go on their kneel and beg for crumbs all in the name of loyalty... Tribalist... When they get a position anywhere, they populate it with their tribe. From fed establishment to churches to schools to markets to offices... Igbos work hard to own their own business... Igbo awero eze(igbos do not have king)

cosade:


If you go to most Catholic Churches in Lagos, they are dominated by the Igbos. Does that mean that Catholic Church is Igbo Church? Of course, No. The fact is that most Yorubas have left the Orthodox Churches for the Pentecotal Churches that is why RCCG, Four Square, MFM, Winners and the likes appear to look like Yoruba Churches.

I once went to a Catholic Church that we pioneered in Bariga in 1975, I could hardly see any Yoruba family in that Church. I also went to another Catholic Church in Agege two years ago, I overheard some Yorubas complaining of being marginalized in the church by the Igbos.

As already outlined by other Nairalanders, in RCCG the training path is known and open to all members. My son has already graduated from the discipleship class because that is his choice.

If we are to follow your logic that Igbos predominate as Catholics in Lagos, then the Holy See at the Vatican should have appointed an Igboman as the bishop of the Metropolitan See of Lagos.

But because the Catholic Church has a practical understanding of church administration, the current bishop is Adewale Martins and not an Igboman.

Fairness is fairness so need trying to rationalize an anomaly...

maestroferddi:
You have a point that most pastors at Chosen are Igbos.

However, I watched a church planting programme/clip by Lazarus Muoka who was establishing a parish/branch of Chosen at Ibadan. He chose a Yoruba man as the head pastor at least to show that he understands decorum and practicality.

RCCG should look into this issue about Yorubanisation of the church. I am neither a member of Chosen nor RCCG but people do murmur, you know...

even here in enugu they preach nd interpret in yoruba. What nonsense

petchi:
Are you surprised. To a Yoruba man every thing is Tribalism Even the blood of Jesus can not wash tribalism from their heart. It is worst in churhes founded by Yoruba's.

You are right, Example MTN, you will hardly see a yoruba person using MTN because the Igbo man is among the Management
Go to Winners, RCCG, Deeper Life, you will see Igbos among their members but go to any church who founders are igbo, you will hardly see a yoruba person there, go check Chosen, CPM etc and make your confirmation,
May of these igbo founding churches has Hausas and Yoruba as their regional pastors but hardly in any yoruba church, you can easily make hand count of other tribes as pastors in yoruba churches

terrezo2002:
Not misleading in any way. Cornelius received the holy ghost baptism before he was water baptized and many other people in bible while some didn't receive until after water baptism. Which ever one comes first. What matters is that u receive both
Try to study your bible before correcting people. Cheers

Your original assumption was wrong and misleading, you changed it in your above recent response to me...initially your stated and I quote...

"Well you must have been filled with the holy ghost before water baptism unless you don't know what you are doing"

Which is not true, because you used the word "must have been", but in your new response you used "which ever one come first".... and if you get water baptized before receiving the holy ghost, it does not mean that "you don't know what you are doing". Christians, do not have a control on when they will receive the holy ghost, but they can control and schedule their water baptism anytime after repentance and to summise that one does not know what he/she is doing, if it so happened that, they got water baptized before holy spirit baptize is wrong and misleading period!

Kruzilano:
even here in enugu they preach nd interpret in yoruba. What nonsense

What Catholicism can never permit.

We Pentecostals can be annoyingly ignorant at times...

prof4harley:
Personally, I admire RCCG esp Daddy GO a lot. But the idea of having almost all key leaders(pastors) as Yoruba's is worrisome.

Why do we call Buhari a Northern president? Its because of smt like this. I feel say every state get power and fire brand indigenous pastors that can equally do d work.

Adeboye is one of the most respected pastors in Nigeria but this perception that a non-Yoruba pastor has no career prospect in RCCG is something he should address.

God is not the author of confusion...

GreyLaw:


You didn't talk like a Christian; believers do NOT generalize. You comfortably lumped a whole tribe into one and labelled them almost traitors.

The issue of tribe should not even be raised in church leadership, except if we do not trust the leadership of the church. That said, I hope tribalism does not play a part in appointment of pastors in the church.

Rightly said it shouldn't. But this issue is what I have sat and pondered many years ago, a Church whose founder is Yoruba will hardly have Igbo in the pastorate and vice versa. Except for very large Churches though.

GlorifiedTunde:
It is a general phenomena I have noticed. But RCCG is still better.

How many churches founded by igbo men of God have Yoruba pastors?

I think its just better you work with those whom you can understand better.

Besides igbos have a way of turning Church to business, they start striving for posts like its business

I am speaking from experience. You Igbos are not as tolerant as Yorubas.

If given the opportunity, u will populate the entire pastorate with your tribe and send the founder's tribe packing.

Lookupman:

You are right, Example MTN, you will hardly see a yoruba person using MTN because the Igbo man is among the Management
Go to Winners, RCCG, Deeper Life, you will see Igbos among their members but go to any church who founders are igbo, you will hardly see a yoruba person there, go check Chosen, CPM etc and make your confirmation,
May of these igbo founding churches has Hausas and Yoruba as their regional pastors but hardly in any yoruba church, you can easily make hand count of other tribes as pastors in yoruba churches

This is what I said above and some think I am being a tribalist. I was only stating the obvious.

hertz9te:
you are confused

You're the one who's very confused because you believe in fairy tales!

madapcmod:


I dey tell u.

The annoying thing is that these yoloba members are stingy to death. I have been to a church wia an altar call was made, 1 million naira, about 15 Igbo came out, 500k, more Igbo, yolobas started coming out when 25k was mentioned, yet u see them park SUV outside. Very sting in church giving yet tribalistic in sharing position.

I sorry for some of my ppl. Igbos freely and cheerfully gives when it comes t9 church issue.

don't pity them why because God has blessed the igbos for their giving nature. that's the main reason why most of them excel in business anyway they go

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her time i believe was better than nigeria time. her time better than blessing okagbare time //

people with better time from the usa and uk that may represent nigeria[/size]

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When you go to any company head by them from top to bottom is them. RCCG is owned by one of them so from head to bottom is them . the same applies to all their churches. Believe me it is a tribal thing and it gives one deep thoughts.tribalism tribalism tribalism, my brother my brother my brother it is imbedded in their DNA.That is why you can't see them in large number in a church like The Lord's chosen because it is not founded by one of them but the are many in Aladura churches etc. tribalism tribalism tribalism that is how they operate. if you doubt me go to any company they head or any thing and compare with the ones they don't head and you will be convinced beyond every reasonable doubt

maestroferddi:
What Catholicism can never permit.

We Pentecostals can be annoyingly ignorant at times...

am a catholic, the funny thing I got home on vacation from sch, only to get to the my parish in lagos that has been known to be headed by igbo priest and dominated by igbos, nd meet a new yoruba priest, then I was told he made provision for yoruba mass evry last sunday.. Saying lagos belong to yoruba so we have to follow due processes, I just shook my head!

Better than Chosen where 99.99% are Igbos.