Zico5:
Haba, u have already introduced tribalism. Must u people fight and argue over everything, must everything comes from ur tribe. For instance, go to zenith and diamond banks that belong to igbo, most of their managers are igbo. Have u ever seen anyone complaining. This is too bad my friend. This kind of nature will never lead us anywhere as a country.

I tire oo my brother, at AIICO insurance whr I work, 95 percent of Agency and Unit managers are Igbo but that doesn't matter since we are productive. The first point of research by the OP should be how many people of other tribes are in Full time ministry under Rccg and cite situations where someone qualified for the post of Regional head has been denied it simply because of his tribe. Without that, I don't even see aa basis of right or wrong,

Amberon11:
Oga you are wrong. It is the same in MFM. Sometime ago, I was in church MFM regional headquarters in PH, we connected to the telecast and G.O (D.R Olukoya) was introducing all the heads of the various departments in the church. Believe me, all the names I heard that day were Yoruba. I started asking myself, is everyone in Lagos Yoruba? Why should "only" Yoruba's be given group heads in the church?

Also, I noticed that all the people that have ever been regional overseers in PH regional HQ are Yorubas. This isn't right.

I like Prophet TB Joshua for this reason. He isn't a tribalist. He had 5 wise men and only 2 were Nigerians. Most of his evangelists are foreigners. He gives everyone equal opportunity irrespective of their tribe and race.

No be commercial thing then be (christiandom). Make una go establish una own church business if una no fit beat them. Any way God cannot be mocked the disperity you all see is a sign that God and indeed Christ is absent in all this worldly churches that give praise to Money and to individuals than the word of God and reverence to God almighty ands christ is son are not always common place.

ycat:
The Ibo Op know exactly what he's doing, which is as with everything, 'it's anybody but Yoruba". To ibos, Yoruba don't deserve anything and can be jolted to drop what's in their hands. The ibo Op just want to be able to say "we run things and rule over Yoruba even in the church they built from ground up". Ibos thirst to be on top of Yoruba in everything and it just unfortunate that only very few Yoruba are smart enough to see this.

The Op doesn't care about the body of Christ, he just wants to blackmail Yoruba churches into giving them more leadership position so as to have the upper hand to either completely take over the church and keep Yoruba out or destroy the church, it's a pattern with these people and I'm sure they are already asking why God created Yoruba. Ibos will never rest until they take over everything Yoruba, with Yoruba's help of course because we keep giving them the body language that it's doable.

@Op, first list the ibo churches in Nigeria and compare with the number of Yoruba regional heads, do and see your hypocrisy, you will see how you ibos have been eaten up by tribalism.

common shutup u tribalistic yorubber, all the guy is saying is that Rccg shud be less tribalistic in its dealings the yorubanization of d church is too much

Puresolutions:


trust me dont bring this up as a thread,never even discuss it alone with ur family in d house just let it be,let the employer be the decider less ur adjudged

Taaaa!!!
Who do u want to frighten with that crap above? Na today?
I am sure u must be a Yoruba pastor. That is why u feel this way.
Anyway the OP is correct. Even winners chapel tend to have the same issue.
While I won't be quick to conclude it was an intentional decision, I must add that this Church founders are human. No matter their spirit field mind, they are still prone to human tendencies. One of the most basic human tendencies peculiar to the Yoruba (and Hausa) race, regardless of their level of holiness and godliness, is the distrust for anyone who speaks a different language. Just like a basic human tendency of we igbos is pomposity and pride.

It takes the grace of God, and total commitment to God alone, to overcome that tribal tendency. So far, it is only in deeper life that I seed them trying to resist such inclination

what has appointing a Yoruba or Igbo head in any parish/province help your spiritual life? as far as I'm concerned your personal relationship with God should be your worry irrespective of who is in charge of ur church though you are not far from the truth but I believe there is a process and standard in rccg by which pastors are chosen,maybe Yorubas are the most qualified
l have been a redeem member since 2011 and the pastors n head of province are mostly Yoruba but I have never given it a thought because I know nothing about it

my brother my advice to you is to strengthen your relationship with God and be indifference about these irrelevant issues

josephni12:
I've personally noticed something peculiar to the Redeemed Christian church of God which I am not comfortable with. The Bible warns that we should not give chance for people to question our faith our unity in the body of Christ. In other churches, like deeper life, chosen, mountain on fire etc state and regional pastorship have always been of people of different tribes as the case may be,

But it's not so with in Redeemed Christian Church of God were MOST (not ALL about (86%)). of their regional / state pastors are most Yoruba's in almost every state in nigeria. Is it that the people mostly trusted to be Good pastors to handle that PARTICULAR POSITION are from one particular tribe? This is what is happening currently in our Government. Please, constructive criticism no tribalism.

Related: https://trccg.org/rccg/who-we-are/leadership-of-the-rccg/

Have you been to 80% of their parishes in Nigeria??

obstead200:

Taaaa!!!
Who do u want to frighten with that crap above? Na today?
I am sure u must be a Yoruba pastor. That is why u feel this way.
Anyway the OP is correct. Even winners chapel tend to have the same issue.
While I won't be quick to conclude it was an intentional decision, I must add that this Church founders are human. No matter their spirit field mind, they are still prone to human tendencies. One of the most basic human tendencies peculiar to the Yoruba (and Hausa) race, regardless of their level of holiness and godliness, is the distrust for anyone who speaks a different language. Just like a basic human tendency of we igbos is pomposity and pride.

It takes the grace of God, and total commitment to God alone, to overcome that tribal tendency. So far, it is only in deeper life that I seed them trying to resist such inclination

I'm over 20years of following the Lord if im to be modest,but im over 26years in reality.Divine matters are not to be paraded amongst non faithfuls less yo subject God to a public image marring. Leave it be.I dont want to talk too much.

I'm not even Yoruba ! I don't attend Redeem i've never attended the chrch once.

terrezo2002:
What are saying sef

even me am confuse

Puresolutions:


I'm over 20years of following the Lord if im to be modest,but im over 26years in reality.Divine matters are not to be paraded amongst non faithfuls less yo subject God to a public image marring. Leave it be.I dont want to talk too much.

I'm not even Yoruba ! I don't attend Redeem i've never attended the chrch once.

confirmed!!!!!
U are a pastor. Ur type specialises in the message of fear

newbornmacho:
Denominational Christianity is a curse. That's all I can tell you. Charlatans abound everywhere making merchandise of the gospel and trafficking in the souls of men. God willing , revival will come and destroy this accursed "city of man"

Una wan turn our GO to Buhari again.Must everything involve Biafra & ND? God can fight his thing himself o.

newbornmacho:
the simple and straight forward Faith that Jesus Christ brought has been adulterated... Hybridized with humanism. The resultant kingdoms of men are only bearing fruit worthy of their owners.

And when did Jesus ask you to fight for him?

Kangol99:
From the general look of Christianity in Nigeria you can testify that the Yorubas are making the largest contribution than any other tribe. I think that's the reason why. This is not tribalism but an observation.

That observation is for God & NEVER you.

sukkot:
hausas are not christians. leaving only igbo. you want rccg overseer to leave his church funds in the hand of ipad youf ?


JUST KIDDING. ITS A CORRUPT ESTABLISHMENT WITH CORRUPT PEOPLE IN IT. MY OPINION

Start up your own if it pains you now.

I think it is the location of the headquarters and the Called one. For example TREM. Most of the Pastors are Ibo. Personally I do not have any qualms with this if God call you and you are faithfully committed to the call, it will speak anywhere, everywhere.
Thank you.

terrezo2002:
The Rccg does not ordain based on your tribe. The qualification is become a member of the church, go for new believer's class and baptismal class, get baptized, do your school of disciples training/school of missions/bible school. Stay for at least 5 years. Above all, you must be Holy Ghost baptized. Well you must have been filled with the holy ghost before water baptism unless you don't know what you are doing. With this u are qualified.
The job of a pastor is not easy. Some people reject it when call upon. It takes Abundant grace

so what yu trying to say only the yorubas in the church have met all dis criteria above......please spare me that, you all know yorubas are most tribalistic in the world ..no jokes

we should respect and leave church governing out of dis. maybe the yorubas were the available ones dat time.

hertz9te:
faith and belive is a virtue,obviously you dont have it.
The bible says:if its knowledge that you seek "ask and ye shall receive"

So believing in bible crap and fairy tales is a virtue to you? LOL.

DedeNkem:


So believing in bible crap and fairy tales is a virtue to you? LOL.

ignorance drives you

I will advice the poster to constructively send a mail to the GO. I assure you a response. Please send your mail to: contact@eaadeboye.com
It's well with us.

hertz9te:
ignorance drives you

Religious people like you are the most ignorant, unintelligent and have low IQ. Why;

(1) Intelligent people are generally more analytical and data-driven; formal religions are the antithesis: they are empirically fluffy and their claims are often in direct contradiction with scientific evidence, unless they are interpreted metaphorically – but maybe intelligent people are not that keen on metaphor. Another way of putting it is that people with a high IQ are more likely to have faith in science, which isn’t religion’s best friends.

(2) Intelligent people are less likely to conform, and, in most societies, religiosity is closer to the norm than atheism is. Although this interpretation is based on extrapolation, it still makes sense: first, smarter people tend to be less gullible; second, in most societies religious people outnumber atheists and agnostics - though global levels of religiosity have been declining, and there is substantial cultural variability in religiosity levels.

(3) Intelligence and religiosity are “functionally equivalent”, which means that they fulfil the same psychological role. Although this intriguing argument contradicts points 1 and 2, it deserves serious consideration. Humans will always crave meaning. Religion – like science and logical reasoning – provides them with a comprehensive framework or system to make meaningful interpretations of the world. At times, religion and science are in conflict; but they can also act in concert, complementing each other to answer non-falsifiable and falsifiable questions, respectively. Some people satisfy their desire to find meaning via religion, whereas others do so via logical, analytical, or scientific reasoning – and IQ predicts whether you are in the former or latter group.

TUNDE BAKARE,PAUL ADEFARASIN,OSHOFFA,ORIMOLADE MOSES,BABALOLA,SAM ADEYEMI,

MrPresident1:
The biggest pastors in Nigeria are all Yoruba too. Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Abiara, Ashimolowo, Olukoya, T. B. Joshua, all Yoruba men. Yoruba are a deeply spiritual people, Yoruba is Judah, Judah has accommodated so many people to himself, Judah is wise, Judah obeyed the commandment to 'go into the world and multiply' and 'make disciples of all men'.

Judah=lineage+grafted.

cosade:


Compare apple with apple, tell us how many RCCG parishes in the SE or SS that are headed by Yorubas.

Talking about fairness, if you don't even expect a Yoruba Catholic Priest to serve in Yorubaland then will you even give him a chance to serve in Iboland? How many Yorubas are employed in the civil service in SE? What am I even talking when Imo State and another SE state were sacking civil servants from each other's state, as if they weren't from the same region.

Is your second name Hypocritus?

You asked for apples to be compared to apples yet you were quick to cavort from the topic of church administration/leadership we are broaching here to a completely dissimilar issue of civil service.

I put it to you that if Yorubas can overcome there usual insularirty/unventuresomeness and make their way to the South East, nobody will deter them from aspiring and ultimately assuming leadership.

Kruzilano:
am a catholic, the funny thing I got home on vacation from sch, only to get to the my parish in lagos that has been known to be headed by igbo priest and dominated by igbos, nd meet a new yoruba priest, then I was told he made provision for yoruba mass evry last sunday.. Saying lagos belong to yoruba so we have to follow due processes, I just shook my head!

No matter you emotional we want to look at it, it is only practical to recognise and respect the make-up a congregation.

Maybe this new priest in question was trying to grow the Yoruba population of the parish which was not a bad thing...

Noneroone:
this is what we want them to admit but they are playing the ostrich in the cover of spirituality.

Don't mind them. Men creating their own version of Christianity everywhere.

TheSociopath:


O girl keep your opinion to yourself. You don't understand what I wrote up there

You made a dumb comparism. The Catholic church is not owned by one man. Any any person from any region or tribe can be ordained a priest.

RCCG Limited. It's a privately owned company. A one man's venture.

9inches:


You made a dumb comparism. The Catholic church is not owned by one man. Any any person from any region or tribe can be ordained a priest.

RCCG Limited. It's a privately owned company. A one man's venture.

Let me be the bigger person here. More than half of the Igbo tribe are Catholics, hence the high number of Catholic Igbo priests. Even in the North where I am, an Igbo man is the Bishop. There r more Yorubas in RCCG hence the number of leaders. Don't quote me again if ur response will be dumb

MrPresident1:
The biggest pastors in Nigeria are all Yoruba too. Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Abiara, Ashimolowo, Olukoya, T. B. Joshua, all Yoruba men. Yoruba are a deeply spiritual people, Yoruba is Judah, Judah has accommodated so many people to himself, Judah is wise, Judah obeyed the commandment to 'go into the world and multiply' and 'make disciples of all men'.

Judah=lineage+grafted.

AND "SAM ADEYEMI (DAY STAR)"

TheSociopath:


Let me be the bigger person here. More than half of the Igbo tribe are Catholics, hence the high number of Catholic Igbo priests. Even in the North where I am, an Igbo man is the Bishop. There r more Yorubas in RCCG hence the number of leaders. Don't quote me again if ur response will be dumb

Now that you are back to your senses, I say welcome back! As long as you do not make any senseless post again, you are forgiven.

9inches:


Now that you are back to your senses, I say welcome back! As long as you do not make any senseless post again, you are forgiven.

You nor well. You were the one vomitting all over my post, I didn't invite u in the first place. You're the one with the senseless post cos you jumped into conclusion without actually unnderstading the reason for my comment. You must be a kid. You reason like one.

TheSociopath:


You nor well. You were the one vomitting all over my post, I didn't invite u in the first place. You're the one with the senseless post cos you jumped into conclusion without actually unnderstading the reason for my comment. You must be a kid. You reason like one.

Most Catholic priests in Nigeria are Igbos... Does that change aything?

Comparing a business and a church is like comparing apples and oranges. Mumu, wake up.

9inches:


Comparing a business and a church is like comparing apples and oranges. Mumu, wake up.

I didn't realise until now that I've been conversing with an imbec.ile. I won't reply you anymore, fool.

TheSociopath:


I didn't realise until now that I've been conversing with an imbec.ile. I won't reply you anymore, fool.

Now that you realised how foolish you sounded, you may leave without announcement, faceless dolt.