shamecurls:


Good one! You re on track.


Just be patient, You almost where you belong.

Well, I will try and continue to be calm hoping for a better job.. God will definitely pick my call..

Infact I had plan to go on 3weeks leave after I deliver my current project.. make I for no quench..

hadura29:


Well, I will try and continue to be calm hoping for a better job.. God will definitely pick my call..

Infact I had plan to go on 3weeks leave after I deliver my current project.. make I for no quench..

Needed! You re entitled to it

MusaIbrahim1:
Jump on his table and shit on it

idiot

MusaIbrahim1:
Jump on his table and shit on it

idiot

MusaIbrahim1:
Jump on his table and shit on it

idiot

banmee:
It's only in Nigeria. That shiit won't fly in a normal country. Employees are more powerful there. In Nigeria, there is no difference between a slave and an employee. Employers have this illusion that they can do with the employee. Wrong mentality.

You obviously haven't watched movies like Horrible Bosses.
Issues like these are not country-specific. They are tied to temperament a person (the boss).
Plain and simple.

blacktwist:
lovely... educating.....

Thanks.

hadura29:


I am currently in this situation.. I am always keeping my cool but sometimes I feel like talking back but the calmness in me always win.

The job hunting no easy ooo.. still working on it though..

Why don't you try doing the 3rd part of the article?

You can try to address the issue with your boss:
Here, effective communication between you and your boss matters. Once you noticed that your boss’ is fuming about a particular task not meeting the specific deadline thereby affecting you and the entire team members directly, you can approach him/her in a calm and gentle manner to address the issue . Make sure your boss has calmed down after the outburst, then you can relate with him/her informing how his current outrage is affecting the team negatively, however, assuring him that the team will put in their best to meet the company’s target

abubaka101:

You obviously haven't watched movies like Horrible Bosses.
Issues like these are not country-specific. They are tied to temperament a person (the boss).
Plain and simple.

Really? You are basing your facts on a Jenifer Aniston comedy movie. Seriously? I will soon give up entirely on Nigerians. FYI, you try that shiit here, you get sued out of your house or home, fired and thoroughly disgraced. It's supposed to be an employer/employee relationship not a slave/master relationship. As long as you are doing your job, no one can touch you or speak to you anyhow. They understand that. Nigerians don't. Obviously.

abubaka101:

You obviously haven't watched movies like Horrible Bosses.
Issues like these are not country-specific. They are tied to temperament a person (the boss).
Plain and simple.

Thank you very much. .Some people think that negative things only happen in Nigeria.

careercrew1:
Thank you very much. .Some people think that negative things only happen in Nigeria.

Smh.

True!
And more importantly get to know your job description. Becos if you dont you will only be seen as stupid and arrogant.



[quote audthor=alexiej post=47892107]Many of these authoritative pple RESPECT competent people that are firm and bold with them, not the 'yes sir', 'I'm sorry sir' type.
I just feel you shouldn't be a slave to anyone. Be competent, bold, yet very respectful regardless of which kind of boss ure dealing with.[/quote]

Xbursta:
idiot idiot idiot

Your father

oismail:
I yell too, it's my boys that always make to. They behave like animals sincerely

Hmm. This is something new.. Please can you briefly share your experience on what your boys do to provoke you? It will be good for all to learn from this.

Watch a movie called "Horrible Bosses", you'll congrat me later for my 2 cents on this issue.

careercrew1:
Why don't you try doing the 3rd part of the article?

His conscience does that, he calls me and we discuss. Though I am not perfect, I make mistakes n I correct them sometime when I am alone n it reflects in my delivery. I work all round the clock... it hurts when you are loyal and your loyalty is being thrown in the bin..

Kayefi..

And always remember that he is always the boss

banmee:


Really? You are basing your facts on a Jenifer Aniston comedy movie. Seriously? I will soon give up entirely on Nigerians. FYI, you try that shiit here, you get sued out of your house or home, fired and thoroughly disgraced. It's supposed to be an employer/employee relationship not a slave/master relationship. As long as you are doing your job, no one can touch you or speak to you anyhow. They understand that. Nigerians don't. Obviously.

I guess you're living the "American dream", but thr truth is that reality is harsher by far.
And just cause the labour laws in the US are stronger that doesn't mean that horrible bosses don't exist!
And it's much worse when they actually know you can't easily get a job elsewhere. And that last part is true for every country in this world.
Indians don't treat their workers at home much better than they treat their Nigerian workers. And there are plenty of cases where Chinese bosses have violently attacked their workers, but Nigerian and even in China.
Labour abuses and unfair treatment exist everywhere, so don't assume we in Nigeria are naturally unfortunate.

sorepco:
True!
And more importantly get to know your job description. Becos if you dont you will only be seen as stupid and arrogant.

That's true

abubaka101:

I guess you're living the "American dream", but thr truth is that reality is harsher by far.
And just cause the labour laws in the US are stronger that doesn't mean that horrible bosses don't exist!
And it's much worse when they actually know you can't easily get a job elsewhere. And that last part is true for every country in this world.
Indians don't treat their workers at home much better than they treat their Nigerian workers. And there are plenty of cases where Chinese bosses have violently attacked their workers, but Nigerian and even in China.
Labour abuses and unfair treatment exist everywhere, so don't assume we in Nigeria are naturally unfortunate.

I don't think you understand. I started my argument based on what happens in normal societies. Where human rights are observed. Using china and india as examples does not count. Your reality exists because in Nigeria an employer can do whatever and get away with it. In normal societies, you can't. Why? because of the law.

banmee:


I don't think you understand. I started my argument based on what happens in normal societies. Where human rights are observed. Using china and india as examples does not count. Your reality exists because in Nigeria an employer can do whatever and get away with it. In normal societies, you can't. Why? because of the law.

The laws exist, they've just not being enforced well enough
And I think you're missing the point of the article/my argument. I am not saying our labour laws are sophisticated or strong, instead what am trying to let you know is that bosses who get angry easily, or are bad at people skills are not solely found in places like Nigeria. They are everywhere and labour laws can't easily restrict their anger levels no matter the country. People have temperaments, never forget that.

abubaka101:

The laws exist, they've just not being enforced well enough
And I think you're missing the point of the article/my argument. I am not saying our labour laws are sophisticated or strong, instead what am trying to let you know is that bosses who get angry easily, or are bad at people skills are not solely found in places like Nigeria. They are everywhere and labour laws can't easily restrict their anger levels no matter the country. People have temperaments, never forget that.

You talk as if anger is devoid of any actions. When you get angry, you tend to shout, curse, and use offensive language etc. What i am trying to make you understand is, in America, you can't do those things as an employer else you'd be sued for having a hostile work environment. The idea is, there are ways to solve problems without being offensive. And, if you have to yell, curse or make the work place uncomfortable, then you are the problem and a sweet target for litigation. I had to learn it real quick. You don't understand it because you are not used to it and anything goes in Nigeria.

banmee:


You talk as if anger is devoid of any actions. When you get angry, you tend to shout, curse, and use offensive language etc. What i am trying to make you understand is, in America, you can't do those things as an employer else you'd be sued for having a hostile work environment. The idea is, there are ways to solve problems without being offensive. And, if you have to yell, curse or make the work place uncomfortable, then you are the problem and a sweet target for litigation. I had to learn it real quick. You don't understand it because you are not used to it and anything goes in Nigeria.

I do understand it very well.
I hope you are actually residing in America, because if not you'll be speaking based on fairy tales.
I actually have people who work abroad, a few in the US, and not all of them find it easy. Although there are no sweatshops per se in there, some of the people they work with/for sometimes treat them somewhat unfairly.
And they can't easily quit their jobs just like that, they say the job market presently is too competitive. So they just wait it out until they get something better.
That's why when I saw your comment I just thought of the most apt idea to sure you how wrong you are. America is not perfect, and the system can only try its best to quell terrible working conditions, but things like anger management are not things that can't easily be regulated.
Why do you think anger management classes exist? It's not just for yoga practice you know.


And once again do not that am not arguing about labour conditions in Nigeria and the US. Am only trying to let you understand that anger itself and in the business world is not easy to handle, and this is irrespective of whether it is the US or Nigeria.
And to prove my point, Google to see whether anger in American working environment does not exist.

abubaka101:

I do understand it very well.
I hope you are actually residing in America, because if not you'll be speaking based on fairy tales.
I actually have people who work abroad, a few in the US, and not all of them find it easy. Although there are no sweatshops per se in there, some of the people they work with/for sometimes treat them somewhat unfairly.
And they can't easily quit their jobs just like that, they say the job market presently is too competitive. So they just wait it out until they get something better.
That's why when I saw your comment I just thought of the most apt idea to sure you how wrong you are. America is not perfect, and the system can only try its best to quell terrible working conditions, but things like anger management are not things that can't easily be regulated.
Why do you think anger management classes exist? It's not just for yoga practice you know.


And once again do not that am not arguing about labour conditions in Nigeria and the US. Am only trying to let you understand that anger itself and in the business world is not easy to handle, and this is irrespective of whether it is the US or Nigeria.
And to prove my point, Google to see whether anger in American working environment does not exist.

I think i understand now. I get it now. You are confused as to what we are talking about. This is a quote from the OP "Don’t blame yourself:
When your boss suddenly shouts at you or gets angry easily with whatever task you have done, don’t assume that he/she is mad at you. Your boss is human, just like you and definitely have his/her shortcomings. He might be having some personal issues at home, which is not being managed properly, thereby letting the issue impact his/her mood and performance in the office. Don’t let it work you up, be positive and remain calm.

For which i said that shiit can only happen in an abnormal country because where i reside, you dare not create a hostile work environment, less you be sued or lose your job. The difference here is, in Nigeria, it is acceptable. In normal places it is not because of it's repercurssions. In Nigeria there are none. Now i don't know what the people you know are telling you but, as far as i am concerned, either they are there illegally or they surrouund themselves with illegal immigrants. An illegal immigrant has no rights, so they will take anything given to them. And the excuse of they are unable to change jobs is a Nigerian excuse. Please come and be hostile here and see if your bank account would dwindle.

hadura29:


His conscience does that, he calls me and we discuss. Though I am not perfect, I make mistakes n I correct them sometime when I am alone n it reflects in my delivery. I work all round the clock... it hurts when you are loyal and your loyalty is being thrown in the bin..

Kayefi..

Am glad his conscience still bothers him, so all hope isn't lost.. Just relax and keep doing what you know how to do best

favoured234:
Insult him back #in your mind#
Look at his big head, his ugly face, his deep accent,

Just imagine all the useless things you can tell him about him and just smile deep down

pls face front joor

emmanuelbrown26:

pls face front joor

You've been noticed

banmee:


I think i understand now. I get it now. You are confused as to what we are talking about. This is a quote from the OP "Don’t blame yourself:
When your boss suddenly shouts at you or gets angry easily with whatever task you have done, don’t assume that he/she is mad at you. Your boss is human, just like you and definitely have his/her shortcomings. He might be having some personal issues at home, which is not being managed properly, thereby letting the issue impact his/her mood and performance in the office. Don’t let it work you up, be positive and remain calm.

For which i said that shiit can only happen in an abnormal country because where i reside, you dare not create a hostile work environment, less you be sued or lose your job. The difference here is, in Nigeria, it is acceptable. In normal places it is not because of it's repercurssions. In Nigeria there are none. Now i don't know what the people you know are telling you but, as far as i am concerned, either they are there illegally or they surrouund themselves with illegal immigrants. An illegal immigrant has no rights, so they will take anything given to them. And the excuse of they are unable to change jobs is a Nigerian excuse. Please come and be hostile here and see if your bank account would dwindle.

Initially when I saw your response, I shook my head in pity (no insults intended). You obviously are so embroiled by the belief that Corporate America is immune to this issue of anger management.
So in your argument you're implying that: if my boss gets angry at me I can just sue him or report him to the appropriate authority.
True, that's how it should work. But in reality that's never how it works.
I'll give you an example: Steve Jobs was a very terrible boss to his employees. Am sure you never knew that. But he wasn't removed from his job because of this!
There are so many more examples. But the truth is, there's a reason concepts like HR Mediation came up. Anger and related issues are internal human factors that affect a persons corporate affairs. They can't be removed, neither are they tackled by simply sacking the employee. That's why HR Mediation is a thing.
An anger related issue is brought to the HR dept. The dept interviews who's at fault. If the situation is not violent or very serious, such as racial abuse or similar, the person is not sacked. Rather the person is given warnings and forced to attend anger management classes.
That's how things work wherever you think you are.
The people I said face similar problems abroad were not illegal immigrants, they got in legally, yet the problem happened, primarily because they got in 2008, during the Recession. But things are better now for them because they've gotten better jobs.
You can choose to believe/reason my points, or you can continue to scream about how America is so perfect. If the police can kill innocent black people without any officer taking the raps for it, what then is the plight of anger related cases.
You can always respond and type all you want about how bad Nigeria is vis a vis the rest of the world, but don't ignorantly believe that some similar issues don't happen elsewhere.

careercrew1:
Am glad his conscience still bothers him, so all hope isn't lost.. Just relax and keep doing what you know how to do best

Can you advise a refresher course for a project supervisor?..

Thanks..

Happy Sunday..

abubaka101:

Initially when I saw your response, I shook my head in pity (no insults intended). You obviously are so embroiled by the belief that Corporate America is immune to this issue of anger management.
So in your argument you're implying that: if my boss gets angry at me I can just sue him or report him to the appropriate authority.
True, that's how it should work. But in reality that's never how it works.
I'll give you an example: Steve Jobs was a very terrible boss to his employees. Am sure you never knew that. But he wasn't removed from his job because of this!
There are so many more examples. But the truth is, there's a reason concepts like HR Mediation came up. Anger and related issues are internal human factors that affect a persons corporate affairs. They can't be removed, neither are they tackled by simply sacking the employee. That's why HR Mediation is a thing.
An anger related issue is brought to the HR dept. The dept interviews who's at fault. If the situation is not violent or very serious, such as racial abuse or similar, the person is not sacked. Rather the person is given warnings and forced to attend anger management classes.
That's how things work wherever you think you are.
The people I said face similar problems abroad were not illegal immigrants, they got in legally, yet the problem happened, primarily because they got in 2008, during the Recession. But things are better now for them because they've gotten better jobs.
You can choose to believe/reason my points, or you can continue to scream about how America is so perfect. If the police can kill innocent black people without any officer taking the raps for it, what then is the plight of anger related cases.
You can always respond and type all you want about how bad Nigeria is vis a vis the rest of the world, but don't ignorantly believe that some similar issues don't happen elsewhere.

You don't seem to get what he is trying to tell you. You can get angry as much as you like, but cursing at your employee and things like that is frowned at. Steve jobs was a task manager who was a go getter. There is a difference between that and someone who is outrightly toxic. You can't compare to the crap that goes on Nigeria. Of course you have people who do it in the U.S but just be prepared for the consequences when it comes. Just like you have criminals in the U.S even with all it's sophistication. People like to roll the dice.

favoured234:

You've been noticed

bia nwanyi ya, o gini di, u wana see my face right?

banmee:

I think i understand now. I get it now. You are confused as to what we are talking about. This is a quote from the OP "Don’t blame yourself:
When your boss suddenly shouts at you or gets angry easily with whatever task you have done, don’t assume that he/she is mad at you. Your boss is human, just like you and definitely have his/her shortcomings. He might be having some personal issues at home, which is not being managed properly, thereby letting the issue impact his/her mood and performance in the office. Don’t let it work you up, be positive and remain calm.
For which i said that shiit can only happen in an abnormal country because where i reside, you dare not create a hostile work environment, less you be sued or lose your job. The difference here is, in Nigeria, it is acceptable. In normal places it is not because of it's repercurssions. In Nigeria there are none. Now i don't know what the people you know are telling you but, as far as i am concerned, either they are there illegally or they surrouund themselves with illegal immigrants. An illegal immigrant has no rights, so they will take anything given to them. And the excuse of they are unable to change jobs is a Nigerian excuse. Please come and be hostile here and see if your bank account would dwindle.

I didn't see some parts of your comment before and it made my last comment bias, sorry about that. If you can, ignore my last comment.
I agree with your points, incidents like those won't happen frequently in countries with advanced labour laws. But it's not as though they are "acceptable" in Nigeria either. The problem with Nigeria is enforcement, that's why the Chinese, Lebanese, Indians, etc bosses working in Nigeria sometimes assault their employees. But things are becoming much better these days, or perhaps employers are just uncertain of the right corporate behavior in this Buhari economy. Everybody is more cautious than before.

pippimp:


You don't seem to get what he is trying to tell you. You can get angry as much as you like, but cursing at your employee and things like that is frowned at. Steve jobs was a task manager who was a go getter. There is a difference between that and someone who is outrightly toxic. You can't compare to the crap that goes on Nigeria. Of course you have people who do it in the U.S but just be prepared for the consequences when it comes. Just like you have criminals in the U.S even with all it's sophistication. People like to roll the dice.

I've seen my error, thanks. My argument initially was on anger generally, and it wasn't clear until now why the other guy I argued with should keep making it seem as though the issue was country-specific.
We're all on the same page now.

hadura29:


Can you advise a refresher course for a project supervisor?..

Thanks..

Happy Sunday..

Happy new month. There are lots of refresher courses for project supervisor online. You can register for any suitable one online.