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| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by DobleO7: 8:56pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
ndcide:God bless you. I heard Jimi Disu too this morning say that the credit should go to Jonathan. Someone then called to say it conceived by Obasanjo, continued by Yar' Adua before Jonathan now completed it. I don't just know why some people feel GEJ should not and does not deserve any form of commendation. Why I am making this point is because we have had hues and cries of how GEJ did not do anything 6 years and how PDP destroyed Nigeria in thier 16 year rule. It is so pathetic. I am not holding brief for anybody. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by yungmin: 9:00pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
I don't know why people are commending PMB for over the commissioning of the Abuja-Kaduna rail line. That project was never stalled at any point in time even after GEJ left office. The contract was well spelt out that financing of the project was never an issue even after the padded budget higgi hagga. I bet you, Buhari did not contribute one naira to d completion of that project. Where could he have got the money from? Is it from the 2016 budget that was signed in March? Believe it or not, Goodluck Jonathan is the best thing that has ever happened to the north n Nigeria as whole. Sai Goodluck!! |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by AMI3(m): 9:00pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
But why don't you pple tell PMB let him start his own so that some other person will complete it there are so many abandon FG project in the country. It only takes a man with vision to start a project, if you don't start project how will some other person complete it. Does it mean that PMB should keep living on other people vision? Does it mean that PMB likes ideas on what to start? If a whole 4 yrs passes by and nothing to show for it then it will b a big shame. When he came to power there was a lot of criticism from Nigerians but so many APC where pleading for time on his behalf now time is running very fast and yet he is still in a confused state. May God help him. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by titiakins: 9:01pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Mylove55:wake up from your slumber.... im Yoruba Not everyone is brainwashed like you Ilorin people! |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by damon222: 9:02pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
superstar1:That plaque will go down shortly. Whatever it is made from. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by damon222: 9:05pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
hakimmiyya:rubbish |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by hamzeiy: 9:07pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
YouthsPC0:oga op..what i dont understand with this Thankyougej or whatever is that did gej use his money to build the rail of what..or just for the fact that gej built a rail after six years of governance we should start crying. or the fact that nigerians are not use to project and policy continuity from one govt to another is truelly our headache...enough of the noise jare |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Twy: 9:15pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
The debate over this project just shows how Nigerians cow to men who are richer and have obtained more power than them. The project which shoud be a Nigerian project now if caught on who started it, a debate that is futile because one could say it was started by the people who proudced a concrete design and project plan. But to the truth of the matter. In 2006, Obasanjo signed a $8 billion plus contract with CCEC for railway modernisation. I don't know who produced the design, the project was initially linked to oil trading contracts. When Yar'adua came in, he renogiated the modernization project with CCEC and changed the first phase to Abuja to Kaduna instead of Lagos to Kano. The project was started under Yar'adua around 2009. The truth is the project was mostly built during the administration of Jonathan. Jonathan can be given credit for going through with an existing project and seeing it close to completion. But who started it should be the Nigerian government. The proposal and deal with CCEC was started by OBJ, the specific Abuja to Kaduna rail built by CCEC started under Yardua, Jonathan continued with the project and Buhari commisisoned it. I actualyl think both sides just shows are self-ingratiating they are. Instead of both sides to be happy that a project designed or planned in in 2006 was able to pass through four administrations. A weary word for the pro-jonathan. I think the project is more Northern Nigeria project initiated by Yar'adua because the initial phase 1 was a railway from north to south. I suspect the fullfilment of a northern nigeria project is what is making buhari giddy. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by obailala(m): 9:18pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Kenai:Boy, stop dancing naked in public. The picture below is a sample of the refurbished pre-1960 narrow gauge trains which were badmouthed as archaic locomotive scraps. In this 21st century, how could anyone be celebrating such refurbished pre-1960 narrow gauge trains? www.nairaland.com/attachments/4022905_download_jpeg9e044ea0ed5817381b189680f392bafe How dare you try to equate the haunted house above to the latest standard gauge speed trains?.... Sorry boy, Buhari is not commissioning the same nonsense that was badmouthed... Obviously you do not even have a clue on the difference between these new high speed trains and the archaic narrow gauge trains which take 35 hours to crawl from Lagos to Kano. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Enice(m): 9:20pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
GEJ left office more than a year now. This while, work has been on going on the project but still you attribute nothing to PMB. Now, if it were the economy, you will blame PMB forgetting that it started with GEJ when he was borrowing money to pay salaries. Even the almighty Iweala came out to say that Nigerian should expect worst things to come. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Kenai: 9:37pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
obailala:You and your pack of wretched, penniless lowlives are destined for fates worse than torture and death with the devilish and demonic lies you peddle in public with such sickening glee. You can only fool your fellow praise-singers and mercenaries, but not us. Those trains you posted above long preceded Jonathan, and are known to be used for freight haulage by private construction companies. You are a SHAMELESS nincompoop! Please, look below for some of the trains brought on board by Jonathsn. Take correction and stop acting a fool.
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| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by dadaijboy: 9:42pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
So far dem finish am |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Splashme: 9:51pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
BlackSeptember: |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by PrinceAfo911(m): 9:55pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
superstar1:Can somebody tell this guy that Buhari is just a a year and 2 months in office,did he commission the project in 1983-1985? please go and check your sugar level. I believed GEJ and he is my hero |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by hope4nigeria(m): 9:57pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
sheunsheun:the thing tire me oh my brother! I don't know why some pple reason like goat! The effect f praising politician make them see themself as mini god and looting is normal thing to them forgeting they are servant to electorate! Be it gej,buhari,obasanjo whatever can never worthy of praise because none of them use his father. Money to help us in anyway instead looted us dry. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by obailala(m): 10:04pm On Jul 26, 2016*. Modified: 10:21pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Kenai:Sorry boy, you can keep using all the abusive words you know in your dictionary, I would just take it that you are insulting your father... but then, that does not change a fact from being a fact. The first STANDARD GAUGE rail built in Nigeria is the Ajaokuta to warri rail built by OBJ to connect Delta Steel Company Warri and Ajaokuta Steel Company; that line isn't functional yet because the steel companies are still dead. The second STANDARD GAUGE rail built in Nigeria is this Abuja-Kaduna rail which is being commissioned today as the FIRST commercial use standard rail in Nigeria. All the other trains you have seen (including the one I posted and those 'fine' pictures you posted above) all run on refurbished pre-1960 narrow gauge rails; hence they are pathetically slow (travel time from Lagos to Kano is 2 days) and the trains keep derailing like no man's business. Like I mentioned earlier, you unfortunately are still ignorant of the difference between the new standard gauge rails and narrow gauge rails; to you, train na train.. ...and just for your info, the train picture I posted earlier is for human passengers, not goods haulage as you ignorantly claimed. The name of the train is even 'Dame Patience Jonathan' ![]() [img]https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/1170987_250613F1_Train-Accident-Lag_jpg9c1092addfcc50d5165c4f6ff898d827[/img] https://www.nairaland.com/1336237/kano-lagos-passenger-train-collides-truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ItJz3jHyA Now I have given you evidence, you are free to come back again and insult your father! |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by emmaelectelect(m): 10:13pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
anonimi:good |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by sheunsheun(m): 10:15pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
hope4nigeria:Bros help me wake my country men oooooo, |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by diegwu01: 10:18pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Wailers looking for any reason to praise the Woeful performance of GEJ. ![]() I bet you If GEJ had continued after May 29th, the Rail Project would be abandoned.. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Kenai: 10:24pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
obailala:Your imbecilllity doesn't surprise me one bit, and I anticipated you would go down this lane of iddiocy by choosing to regale me with inanities. The fact of the matter remains that Goodluck Jonathan built those rail lines as well as the new train system you and your motley crew of sycophants are so desperately trying to corner and attribute to your illiterate idol. The very same train system you blasted as locomotives, you're trying to claim today. Thank God there's already a documentary video detailing the revitalisation of the railway which everyone can see. Your attempt at revisionism has FAILED! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQguakSbQE Watch that video, fast-forwarding all the way to 24:50. It was published on March 20, 2015, and you can see those recent trains as well as the Abuja-Kaduna one your hero wants to claim. You and your fellow sycophants are so pathetic. You are so desperate in your glory hunt to accord your hero with works he had no role in, just to make him look less worthless than he already is. It was this SAME desperation that had his zombies lying and claiming he built 3 REFINERIES! How far naa? Are you still spinning that refinery lie? Bubari's fake glory hunt didn't start today. Boy, kindly look for a quiet corner and sit down. Your revisionist expedition has failed woefully. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by striker07(m): 10:31pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Still the best analysis blaise26abj: |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by wadetaw202: 10:37pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
aljazira:Whats special about it is d fact that APC said gej achieved nothing. How could a railway line come out of nothing? |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Litmus: 10:39pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
waledeji:I clap for him too. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Inova(m): 10:43pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Nawa oh!!! See this IPOBS sha. They are so blinded with hate that they forgot that thier son they are hailing decided it was best to do the rail straight up to the North instead if East. GEJ never cared for any of you SS and SE. SMH |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by obailala(m): 10:43pm On Jul 26, 2016*. Modified: 11:11pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Kenai:Like I have been saying, your lack of knowledge seems self inflicted and you enjoy the bliss of it because that is the only way you can have what to say. You initially claimed some people who blasted the old death trap trains placed by GEJ on the tracks are now turning around to hail the same trains today. I pointed out to you the difference between standard gauge rails and narrow gauge rails; your brain is still incapable of comprehending the difference. Then I proceeded to show you an example of the haunted looking archaic trains that were badmouthed as locomotives, you jumped out in shameless denial claiming the picture I posted was a freight train. I proceeded to disgrace you on your lies by proving the trains were indeed passenger trains, then you have now reverted to showing us air-conditioned beautiful looking trains, claiming they are the same thing as those being commissioned today. The simple question for you is this, the video you posted from 2015, on what kind of tracks do those trains run on?..... modern standard gauge or pre-1960 narrow gauge death traps?.... Also, what is the speed of those 'beautiful trains' you posted?... Trains which take upwards of 35 hours to travel from Lagos to Kano is what someone who claims to be 'smart' wants to compare with standard gauge trains? |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Kenai: 10:57pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
obailala:You ended up disgracing no-one but yourself with your hopelessly barren attempt at coming off as sensible. My first post highlighted the hypocrisy of the ruling party and its penchant for turning and trying to steal credit for projects and policies it hitherto denigrated. You, on the other hand, foolishly just jumped right in on an endless hair-brained rant about Jonathan commissioning those old trains, despite the fact that they long predated his administration. To show you just how stuppid you are, I posted pictures of the modern passenger trains Jonathan brought on stream, which you and your pack of hungry sycophants had tried long and hard to denigrate. Sensing that your folly had been laid bare, you went on a lengthy, baseless lecture about Standard Guage rails like they are the crux of the matter or the issue under review. How you could so aimlessly veer off from the main line of discussion (About taking credit for projects you badmouthed) to start lecturing like a m0ron on an incongruent topic, clearly exposes your bewildering iddiocy. Still think you're disgracing anyone but yourself, boy? ![]() Please stay on the freaking topic and stop veering off. You're not fooling anybody. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Ugosample(m): 11:04pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
sheunsheun:You still don't get the point, do you? Those Liar people said that Jonathan did nothing and wasted our money with nothing to show for it. Though one can argue that he did not do enough, one cannot argue that he did NOTHING He tried his best, but that could not win him re election That is what Zombies need to knock into their heads |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Ugosample(m): 11:05pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
DobleO7:Exactly. Propaganda issue in this country.... |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by VajanahDischaj(f): 11:10pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
superstar1:but still nkwanu... Thanks to GEJ for 'helping' GMB achieve something @list. |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by obailala(m): 11:12pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
Kenai:He keeps going around in circles, throwing insults like he's got some wisdom in his head. FYI, if only you could reason normally without the inordinate urge to abuse your father and entire family like a frustrated person, you should have since gotten the simple message I've been trying to pass which is that contrary to your assertions, the narrow gauge train systems being used before today (which were badmouthed) are different from the standard gauge train system being commissioned today. I never veered off from any discussion, it's only your brain and comprehension that veered off due to your urge to respond with insults even before reading. I am not responsible for your frustration boy... |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Kenobus: 11:16pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
YouthsPC0:May God grant you your heart desires for speaking the truth |
| Re: Abuja-kaduna Speed Rail : Separating Facts From Fiction & Lies From The Truth by Kenai: 11:31pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
obailala:With each successive post, you continue toi show me how dull you are as an individial and a poster. Please look below for a quick summary on the chronicle of the discussion and where you started shooting yourself, numbskull: Goke7: "What is all the fuss about if Buhari commissions a Jonathan project? He commissioned his predecessors' projects too." Kenai: "The fuss here is that Buhari and his camp are the only ones to criticize and badmouth a project while out of power only to try to steal the glory for the same project while in power." *Obailala jumps in with his trademark tomfoolery* Obailala: "Jonathan commissioned deathtraps! Jonathan commissioned scrap! The insults were well in order because Jonathan commissioned these repainted junk locomotives!" (You still don't see how you foolishly veered off from the main issue? Read on, still) Kenai: "Errr... No, dull citizen. We're talking about these modern trains. " *Obailala comes in again with his low IQ and lack of basic comprehension* Obailala: "Obasanjo commissioned the first this-and-that guage. Lugard commissioned this guage. Arnold Schwarzenegger commissioned that guage" (How the hell does that really have ANYTHING to do with the MAIN issue which is TAKING CREDIT FOR SOMETHING YOU CRITICIZED IN THE PAST AND HAD NO ROLE IN ITS ACTUALISATION?) If after all this and your dull brain still can't show you how you played yourself here, then there's really no helping you. It simply means you are perpetually locked in your own vortex of iddiocy, and you genuinely have my pity. What a dullard! ![]() |
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