frumentius:

Nota Bene: all vehicles currently manufactured locally with modular applications.

The last picture, is that an SA built vehicle? What's the name, any frontal view photos?


She looks sexy from behind.

frumentius:
and of course, what SA Special Forces, CSIR, and ARMSCOR were testing recently: I'm still opposed.

Navistar SOTV

I really won't mind this, it looks good. The Azerbijanis have something similar to this.


Why are you opposed to it?

nemesis2u:


no sir

i was in jaffna at the end stages of war.
the war was fought by Israeli weapons except for some small arms sourced from east European countries and few from India , sometime in the war they ran out of ammo stocks when pak**tan supplied it pronto( others couldn't due to human rights issue).

large scale usage of barrel bombs perfected in sri lanka, the areas i visited showed entire buildings destroyed by carpet bombing with barrel bombs especially the incendiary ones.

You don't know how many weapons China give to sri-lanka not to mention some small ammunition like bullet or mortar or RPG. type-81,type-97 rifle.W89, W95 heavy machine gun.Type-81 MLRS ,Type-83 howitzer, type-63 APC .WZ551 APC . K-8 ,JJ-5 trainer.Type037 patrol boats..The Y-8 transport plane...They fight their first ever air battle with F-7 a low cost but useful fighter.

When they fight LTTE, the Western country say"human right".

Henry240:


Please are there any more SA commando(Recce) photos with the new R5( polymer, foregrip, torch), tricked out R5, please do post.

You clearly have not been paying attention man. Got into trouble for posting those pics. Seeing I and others have put them online already:

...

frumentius:
and of course, what SA Special Forces, CSIR, and ARMSCOR were testing recently: I'm still opposed.

Navistar SOTV

The SOTV B is a good choice since it is a fully armoured 4x4 that is mill spec but looks like a civilian vehicle



That something that could be really useful for any special forces team since they can blend in.

frumentius:


You clearly have not been paying attention man. Got into trouble for posting those pics. Seeing I and others have put them online already:

, don't blame me if you get kicked out of the army chief. I was hoping for newer images, not these older ones.


Don't post any photo you clearly don't feel comfortable with.

frumentius:
...sort of LAV Henry likes. Not quite rapid deployment for SF though.

I won't say that. A C-130 can carry Two vehicles, so 2 C-130s can carry 4 Recon teams. Teams that are well protected, well armed with better situational awareness.



I'm not quite alone in this argument, not even the Nigerian Air Force quite knows how they should use them. They are used inside bases far away from BH 14.5mms. The Honkers are clearly RDRVs.

Henry240:



, don't blame me if you get kicked out of the army chief. I was hoping for newer images, not these older ones.


Don't post any photo you clearly don't feel comfortable with.

there is a reason I am carful with what I say and why I never upload my own pics.

andrewza:



there is a reason I am carful with what I say and why I never upload my own pics.

Didn't Defenceweb.co.za share a photo of you in a small boat a couple months back, which you in-turn shared here?

chinese8107:


You don't know how many weapons China give to sri-lanka not to mention some small ammunition like bullet or mortar type-81,type-97 rifle.W89, W95 heavy machine gun.Type-81 MLRS ,Type-83 howitzer, type-63 APC .WZ551 APC . K-8 ,JJ-5 trainer.Type037 patrol boats..The Y-8 transport plane...They fight their first ever air battle with F-7 a low cost but useful fighter.

When they fight LTTE, the Western country say"human right".

sir i said what i know, saw there firsthand,

rest is upto u believe or dont believe.

Off topic-
http://m.fin24.com/fin24/Economy/sa-boots-nigeria-out-as-africas-largest-economy-20160810?isapp=true

Since we are in the topic of RDRVs, a little bit OFF-TOPIC, British SAS are in Syria, photos recently emerged of SAS in Syria and they are driving Jordanian made Al-thalab vehicles.


Looking all exposed in those vehicles, I just can't see the benefit of these vehicles.


Frumentius please don't share what you're not comfortable with.

Henry240:


The last picture, is that an SA built vehicle? What's the name, any frontal view photos?


She looks sexy from behind.

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It's the Navistar SOTV-a (Special Ops Tactival Vehicle) which SASF Brigade tested and disproved. Based on Ford components so could be replaced everywhere.

Henry240:


Didn't Defenceweb.co.za share a photo of you in a small boat a couple months back, which you in-turn shared here?

By my own pics I mean pics I have taken. Me in that boat for example. I knew of that exercise, the drone we used and could of mentioned it long before defenceweb. Defenceweb only did that article based on info that Navy gave them including the pic of me witch was taken by the Navy

#Nigerian army.

#Afsf

Henry240:
Since we are in the topic of RDRVs, a little bit OFF-TOPIC, British SAS are in Syria, photos recently emerged of SAS in Syria and they are driving Jordanian made Al-thalab vehicles.


Looking all exposed in those vehicles, I just can't see the benefit of these vehicles.


Frumentius please don't share what you're not comfortable with.

rover pinkie maybe


He should be fine as long as the pics don't reveal any thing classified. We have all known about the new rifle and the pics are old enough.

Henry240:


I really won't mind this, it looks good. The Azerbijanis have something similar to this.


Why are you opposed to it?

because we have better!

Nigerian Commando

Henry240:
Since we are in the topic of RDRVs, a little bit OFF-TOPIC, British SAS are in Syria, photos recently emerged of SAS in Syria and they are driving Jordanian made Al-thalab vehicles.


Looking all exposed in those vehicles, I just can't see the benefit of these vehicles.


Frumentius please don't share what you're not comfortable with.

They are for special forces.

The men fight or engage the enemy in a specialized way meaning their requirements slightly differ from conventional forces.

Special ops mean they operate far away from logistics bases. So they must carry everything they need(lubricants, foods, communication equipment ete) on the little battle wagons. Meaning many parts such as armour, at times doors are going to be stripped to make space.

During attacks the element of surprise is used. RDVs carry a lot of power for their sizes.

Publicly available picture.

An example is this picture these chaps are escorting the president inside a city. A short mission but they have carried a lot of stuff as if they are heading to mars and never going to return to planet South Africa.

Then on special ops more equipment will be carried such as Jerrycans, more ammo etc.

Without armour the vehicle's weight is reduced.

MikeCZA:
They are for special forces.

The men fight or engage the enemy in a specialized way meaning their requirements slightly differ from conventional forces.

Special ops mean they operate far away from logistics bases. So they must carry everything they need(lubricants, foods, communication equipment ete) on the little battle wagons. Meaning many parts such as armour, at times doors are going to be stripped to make space.

During attacks the element of surprise is used. RDVs carry a lot of power for their sizes.

Nothing specialized about been getting shot at with a 14.5mm or Dshk. They feel the same way to both conventional and unconventional forces.

Hence the Plasan Sandcat from Israel provides that middle ground.

Henry240:
Since we are in the topic of RDRVs, a little bit OFF-TOPIC, British SAS are in Syria, photos recently emerged of SAS in Syria and they are driving Jordanian made Al-thalab vehicles.


Looking all exposed in those vehicles, I just can't see the benefit of these vehicles.


.

probably airborne special force only used when making sure there is no IED or mines on road.They probably have some high tech sensor or radar to detect them.see object underground or behind the wall.They can achieve almost zero casulty.
For a country don't have those technology,it's suicidal.
Or maybe just for base patolling

at least should have some Night View device and drone
.
I am sure some drone can see people hidden behind a wall
.

Henry240:


Nothing specialized about been getting shot at with a 14.5mm or Dshk. They feel the same way to both conventional and unconventional forces.

Hence the Plasan Sandcat from Israel provides that middle ground.

A lot of work goes into the planning of special ops.

That's why you see NATO sf units in Syria hanging around with the Javelin ATGM.

Only high end IFVs such as the Rosomak can absorb some 14.5mm rounds with it's occupants still safe.

The Hornet for an example can carry the: "Chinese rocket launcher, a heavy machine gun or 20mm cannon or a grenade launcher plus a General purpose machine gun.

MikeCZA:
A lot of work goes into the planning of special ops.

That's why you see NATO sf units in Syria hanging around with the Javelin ATGM.

Only high end IFVs such as the Rosomak can absorb some 14.5mm rounds with it's occupants still safe.

The Hornet for an example can carry the: "Chinese rocket launcher, a heavy machine gun or 20mm cannon or a grenade launcher plus a General purpose machine gun.

PLASAN SANDCAT.

Henry240:
Since we are in the topic of RDRVs, a little bit OFF-TOPIC, British SAS are in Syria, photos recently emerged of SAS in Syria and they are driving Jordanian made Al-thalab vehicles.


Looking all exposed in those vehicles, I just can't see the benefit of these vehicles.


Frumentius please don't share what you're not comfortable with.

The South African vehicles are better. Not because we add armour where we're not expected, but because we fight conventionally and otherwise.

chinese8107:

probably airborne special force only used when making sure there is no IED or mines on road. They probably have some high tech sensor or radar to detect them.see object underground or behind the wall. They can achieve almost zero casulty.
For a country don't have those technology,it's suicidal.
at least should have some Night View device and drone.

Or maybe just for base patolling.

LMFAO..... Chinese, enough with the video games. You don't really believe the parts of your comment in bold.

Nigerian Navy SBS Commandos

Henry240:

PLASAN SANDCAT.

Cannot withstand or absorb 14.5mm rounds.
Occupants must debus to fight not a great idea in raiding special ops.

Henry240:


LMFAO..... Chinese, enough with the video games. You don't really believe the parts of your comment in bold.

No joking. some radar can detect.

Terahertz Radar "Maps" Targets In Long-Distance Pat-Down

http://m.mwrf.com/content/terahertz-radar-maps-targets-long-distance-pat-down

Henry240:


LMFAO..... Chinese, enough with the video games. You don't really believe the parts of your comment in bold.

Such equipment exists.

Ground penetrating radar: Used on specialist demining vehicles such as the Casspir variant and civilian mining purposes.

Wall penetrating radar: Used mainly by SWAT like units to observe movements behind walls on hostage and other situitions.