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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 7:11am On Aug 16, 2016
Good mornig, house;
I took time to reeeelax this weekend in order to sit back read all the edifying comments grin
Keep 'em coming i'm blessed!!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by chaarly(m): 8:05am On Aug 16, 2016
proevan:

you have an angelic end time assingment. A

please sir, can u throw more light
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 8:31am On Aug 16, 2016
chaarly:



please sir, can u throw more light

Those lights are flashes from angels ; And the colouration indicate a different angel. I know this because I have a strong angelic ministry,for talk with them.

They are encouragements
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 10:35am On Aug 16, 2016
Felt like sharing;
Read and be encouraged; had it during during the week-end

I find myself inside an empty cinema hall.

You will not believe it, the cinema doors open and i see a crowd flocking in and they all take their seats , there is a big flat screen on the wall . Happy crowd with shiny faces. People chatting excitedly; I even saw some familiar faces who died; they looked so happy

Something just tells me "The great cloud of witnesses watching you" Heb12:1

Unbelievable, right?

A voice says "Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to witness the most important events that will take place in the world" The screen lits and all the affairs of planet earth are shown....on that screen!

I saw one UN-summit take place, great powers assembled and discussing about the decisions they have to take concerning the world.


Like i said, i met one familiar face; As i rushed to go greet that person, one tall, slim young guy in his 20s just zoomed from nowhere and stood in the middle of two of us like "Halt! No communications between the living and the dead". Mind you, i was not allowed to speak to anyone of one of them; they too did not speak to me . They either smiled or nodded as if to say "hello".


Then the tall guy turned around and looked at me curiously "What are you doing here? This is where the saints who have run their race come when they want to watch you"; Another tall guy pops from nowhere, looking like his twin brother "You not supposed to be here. How did you get here in the first place?" When they realize i'm confused just as they are, the first one calmly explains

"Look, there must a be a mistake somewhere; your place is not here...it's there....go over there" . he turns his head to one direction. As i look in that same direction, i wake up.

SO YES, YOU GOT YOUR COMPANIONS WHO RAN THEIR RACE BEFORE YOU AND WHO ARE NOW WATCHING YOU FROM HEAVEN, CHEERING YOU ON!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 10:39am On Aug 16, 2016
analice107:

Hmmmm. Na wa oo.

I just discovered so many mentions but I don't get any. Am I being cut off from my mentions?
It's well Ooo.

but no naw!
a big shout out to u this morning
u are becoming scarce
and me, i miss my sis!
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 12:31pm On Aug 16, 2016
HananHezron:

but no naw! a big shout out to u this morning u are becoming scarce and me, i miss my sis!
Am here dear. Can't stay away from my family for too long. How are u?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Lamasta(m): 12:35pm On Aug 16, 2016
etidy:
Why warfare prayers shouldn’t be the mainstay of a believer’s prayer life part 1?

I felt compelled to write this piece here to put some things in their correct perspective and help those who may not have much depth in God’s word yet that visit this forum regularly. I want to add that with all sense of humility that I am just a learner in this kingdom (less than 2yrs in the faith) so maybe some of what I am saying may be from ignorance and I’m open to corrections.

I’ve noticed a dangerous trend where warfare prayers is embraced in excess in churches nowadays. It’s also common that we prescribe it a lot for people that make enquiries on every little challenge, dreams or nightmare. I find this disturbing because having studied the bible a little, the lifestyle of many giants in the faith and anointed books on prayer of men with proofs of dominion like Kenneth Hagin, Bishop Oyedepo, I have realized surprisingly that warfare prayer should be the least on the prayer list on a Christian. Shocking right? Here are my reasons:
From Ephesians 6:18, we are made to understand that there are different kinds of prayer. And we ought to learn how to engage all of them as the spirit leads per time, we are not to be fixated on only one kind of prayer. The whole world lies in wickedness (1 John 5:19) and we have to fight battles from time to time. But the reason why MANY CHRISTAINS ARE DEFEATED IN BATTLE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FIXATED ABOUT THE BATTLES THAN MAKING THEMSELVES BATTLE READY ALL THE TIME. IT’S JUST LIKE USAIN BOLT BEING OBSESSED ABOUT ONLY THE OLYMPICS 100 M FINAL (WHERE THE WARFARE PRAYER IS NEEDED) AND NOT TAKING THE DAY TO DAY TRAINING AND DIETING SERIOUS (WORD AND OTHER KINDS OF PRAYER). HE WILL FAIL WOEFUL. WHY? “If you faint in the day of adversity, Your strength is small” (proverbs 24:10) The focus of a believer should not be about binding every imaginary devil. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT CHANGING HIS LEVEL OF COMMAND AND SPIRITUAL STRENGTH FIRST. DON’T BE WARFARE CONSCIOUS, BE GOD CONSCIOUS, BE RIGHTEOUSNESS CONSCIOUS, BE POWER CONSCIOUS, BE REVELATION CONSCIOUS, BE WORD CONSCIOUS. KNOW WHO THE WORD OF GOD SAYS YOU ARE FIRST, BUILD YOUR FAITH, BUILD POWER FIRST OR WARFARE PRAYERS WILL BE FRUSTATING. MAKE YOUR AXE SHARP FIRST AND THEN YOU CUT THE TREE WITH ONE STRIKE.
Warfare prayers are weapons of offense but they are only effective in the hands of people who are skilled (Heb 5:14). That’s why by mere appearance of one person all the demons have taken to their heels while, another person has shouted in Jesus name 100 times and use 10 buckets of anointing oil and yet the demon is just there chilling..lol . Every born again Christian is a light (matt 5:13 and 14) but the level of brightness differs. We should be more focused about increasing our intensity by being more like Christ in holiness and dominion. Most times the devil attacks me, I do less of warfare prayers, instead I search myself to see the loopholes I left, I repent of them and sanctify myself, I study and pray to change my level of command and for revelation on what I must do and that’s it. There is an extent of power you carry, some demons don’t come near you.

STUDY THE NEW TESTAMENT WELL, YOU WON’T SEE THE APOSTLES STRUGLING AND WAILING BECAUSE OF TINY DEMONS EXCEPT ONLY ONCE IN MATTHEW 17:21 BECAUSE THEIR LEVEL OF COMMAND WAS LOW THEN. IT’S NOT FOUND ANYWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE WARFARE PRAYERS WAS THEIR FOCUS. RATHER YOU WILL FIND PRAYERS ABOUT BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, WITH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, PRAYER FOR THE SPREAD OF THE GOSPEL, PRAYER FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW CONVERTS, PRAYER FOR LEADERS, PRAYER FOR SANCTIFICATION, PRAYERS FOR OUTBREAK OF SIGNS AND WONDERS, PRAYERS FOR DIVINE GUIDANCE.

As I round up this first part, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT ON THE DAY OF BATTLE, “YOU DON’T WARFARE WITH THE DEVIL” THAT’S A BLATANT MISNOMER AND THAT MENTALITY IS A SNARE, IF YOU WARFARE WITH HIM HE WILL BE BEAT YOU. WHAT WE DO IS TO “EXERCISE AUTHORITY”. YOU TELL HIM “ SATAN STOP THERE “ AND HE STOPS, YOU TELL HIM “SATAN GET LOST” AND HE GETS LOST, YOU TELL HIM SHUT UP AND HE SHUTS UP. YOU DON’T FIGHT HIM LOL, IN BOXING YOU ONLY FIGHT SOMEONE OF YOUR WEIGHT CATEGORY. NO! YOU DON’T, YOU ARE NOT HIS WEIGHT CATEGORY, YOU ARE CARRYING JESUS’S WEIGHT CATEGORY. WHY? BECAUSE YOU MUST HAVE BUILT AUTHORITY IN GOD’S WORD AND IN PRAYER. THE DEVIL IS TOO SMALL TO BE THE FOCUS OF YOUR PRAYER LIFE, THAT YOU NOW GO ON PRAYER AND FASTING BECAUSE OF HIM ALL THE TIME. GOD AND HIS KINGDOM SHOULD BE THE FOCUS (MATT 6:33) AND AS YOU DO, YOU BECOME MORE LIKE HIM. I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME ONE TINY DEMON ATTACKED ME, I WOKE TO SEE HE HAD HELD ME DOWN. THE MORE I STRUGGLED, THE MORE IT OVERPOWERED ME. THEN I WAS LIKE GOD WHATS HAPPENING KE? A SMALL VOICE SPOKE FROM WITHIN “DON’T OVERESTIMATE THE ENEMY”. I JUST RELAXED AND BEFORE I MENTIONED IN JESUS NAME ONCE LMAO. JUST IMAGINE THE REST...LOL…

IN PART 2, BY GOD’S GRACE I WILL EXPLAIN EPHESIANS 6: 12 TO VERSE 18. WARFARE PRAYER IS NEEDED BUT IT’S MUST NEVER GET TO WHERE WE ARE INDIRECTLY IDOLISING THE DEVIL BY EVEN REVERING THE DEVIL INSTEAD OF GOD….. THANKS
The ANOINTING OF GOD on your life attracts attack and you can`t carry this anointing and not deliver people who are possessed, in bondage or in chain and when you are doing this you are affecting the kingdom of darkness negatively and you think they will not attack you abi? That is where WARFARE PRAYER comes in cos if you don`t fight them with prayers and fasting Mark 9 vs 29 they will kill you o even Jesus do all night prayer, apostle Paul fought beasts etc But all in all PRAYER OF FAITH James 5 vs 15 is all we have to do regularly as SAINTS.....
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 1:21pm On Aug 16, 2016
analice107:

Am here dear. Can't stay away from my family for too long. How are u?

How am i? How are you, instead!!!!! You been doing the dissappearing act!!!
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 5:01pm On Aug 16, 2016
HananHezron:


How am i? How are you, instead!!!!! You been doing the dissappearing act!!!
Ah, noo. Am here oo. Am following your guys steady. Am so loving you guys.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 6:28pm On Aug 16, 2016
HananHezron:
Felt like sharing;
Read and be encouraged; had it during during the week-end

I find myself inside an empty cinema hall.

You will not believe it, the cinema doors open and i see a crowd flocking in and they all take their seats , there is a big flat screen on the wall . Happy crowd with shiny faces. People chatting excitedly; I even saw some familiar faces who died; they looked so happy

Something just tells me "The great cloud of witnesses watching you" Heb12:1

Unbelievable, right?

A voice says "Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to witness the most important events that will take place in the world" The screen lits and all the affairs of planet earth are shown....on that screen!

I saw one UN-summit take place, great powers assembled and discussing about the decisions they have to take concerning the world.


Like i said, i met one familiar face; As i rushed to go greet that person, one tall, slim young guy in his 20s just zoomed from nowhere and stood in the middle of two of us like "Halt! No communications between the living and the dead". Mind you, i was not allowed to speak to anyone of one of them; they too did not speak to me . They either smiled or nodded as if to say "hello".


Then the tall guy turned around and looked at me curiously "What are you doing here? This is where the saints who have run their race come when they want to watch you"; Another tall guy pops from nowhere, looking like his twin brother "You not supposed to be here. How did you get here in the first place?" When they realize i'm confused just as they are, the first one calmly explains

"Look, there must a be a mistake somewhere; your place is not here...it's there....go over there" . he turns his head to one direction. As i look in that same direction, i wake up.

SO YES, YOU GOT YOUR COMPANIONS WHO RAN THEIR RACE BEFORE YOU AND WHO ARE NOW WATCHING YOU FROM HEAVEN, CHEERING YOU ON!
Wow.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by etidy: 6:38pm On Aug 16, 2016
Lamasta:

The ANOINTING OF GOD on your life attracts attack and you can`t carry this anointing and not deliver people who are possessed, in bondage or in chain and when you are doing this you are affecting the kingdom of darkness negatively and you think they will not attack you abi? That is where WARFARE PRAYER comes in cos if you don`t fight them with prayers and fasting Mark 9 vs 29 they will kill you o even Jesus do all night prayer, apostle Paul fought beasts etc But all in all PRAYER OF FAITH James 5 vs 15 is all we have to do regularly as SAINTS.....

You are absolutely right that we need to do warfare, in fact we fight and win battles everyday that we don't know of. I'M JUST WARNING AGAINST EXCESSES. we must be led by the Spirit of God always. The reality is there are three kind of churches and Christians today. we have on one extreme the buttie/21st century Christians who don't wanna do any warfare, they rather ignore the reality of demons and wickedness of the the world, they are the one's where the church has turned into a socializing and networking center . then on another extreme are people who ascribe every problems to demons, they are the ones who are always binding and casting, always seeing visions, these are Christians who never give room to sound doctrine, they never allow the word to dwell richly in them, they are in perennial fear of the devil. they warfare in the flesh. in both cases demon rule and ravage them. but there is a third group, who feed on the word, they are aware of their covenant rights. they know when to engage in warfare and when not to. they make spiritual diagnosis by the helps of the Holy spirit through the word or via the various gifts of the spirit and they apply the right scriptural prescription. this is the triumphant church and that's where God wants his people to be.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 6:50pm On Aug 16, 2016
proevan:

you have an angelic end time assingment. A

if I may ask, why did you say so. from revelation or intuition.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 7:00pm On Aug 16, 2016
HananHezron:
Felt like sharing;
Read and be encouraged; had it during during the week-end

I find myself inside an empty cinema hall.

You will not believe it, the cinema doors open and i see a crowd flocking in and they all take their seats , there is a big flat screen on the wall . Happy crowd with shiny faces. People chatting excitedly; I even saw some familiar faces who died; they looked so happy

Something just tells me "The great cloud of witnesses watching you" Heb12:1

Unbelievable, right?

A voice says "Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to witness the most important events that will take place in the world" The screen lits and all the affairs of planet earth are shown....on that screen!

I saw one UN-summit take place, great powers assembled and discussing about the decisions they have to take concerning the world.


Like i said, i met one familiar face; As i rushed to go greet that person, one tall, slim young guy in his 20s just zoomed from nowhere and stood in the middle of two of us like "Halt! No communications between the living and the dead". Mind you, i was not allowed to speak to anyone of one of them; they too did not speak to me . They either smiled or nodded as if to say "hello".


Then the tall guy turned around and looked at me curiously "What are you doing here? This is where the saints who have run their race come when they want to watch you"; Another tall guy pops from nowhere, looking like his twin brother "You not supposed to be here. How did you get here in the first place?" When they realize i'm confused just as they are, the first one calmly explains

"Look, there must a be a mistake somewhere; your place is not here...it's there....go over there" . he turns his head to one direction. As i look in that same direction, i wake up.

SO YES, YOU GOT YOUR COMPANIONS WHO RAN THEIR RACE BEFORE YOU AND WHO ARE NOW WATCHING YOU FROM HEAVEN, CHEERING YOU ON!


my God. wowww. sis ur soooo blessed to have these revelations. so blessed. feel so encouraged. so strengthened. God sure loves you. smiley
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by etidy: 7:46pm On Aug 16, 2016
Why warfare prayers shouldn’t be the mainstay of a believer’s prayer life pt 2

One of the least understood scriptures in the bible which many so FAKE DELIVERANCE ministers and warfare prayer addicts have turned upside down is Ephesians 6:12
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places “
Many people just take this verse out of context and run with it. Kenneth Hagin would always say when people don’t have a sound understanding of a thing God says or is planning to do, they run into excesses and get into confusion and error.
Yes there is actually a wrestling against the forces of darkness, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS COMPULSORY FOR ALL BELIEVERS. But it’s not in the way many people view it. Some people have turn this to 90% of their prayer points, binding and casting every dream, every cat or bird, mother in law, trying to kill demon spirits and more. You will see so many churches holding many crusades with many funny titles around, yet most of these churches have no results, some even go as far as wearing military camouflage .lol.. THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS CHAPTER WAS SAYING ABOUT THEIR ADVERSARY “THE DEVIL”. But what does the bible say about warfare against him. Ephesians 6: 11-13 kjv
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand
You see what Paul was saying that in the day of battle what you should be weary about is actually the trickery of the devil (NOT HIS POWER). PLEASE HOLD THAT LAST STATEMENT WITH BOTH HANDS IT WILL LIBERATE YOU.
In reality for every BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD, the devil and sin his most potent weapon has no power over you, what he however uses to attack you is TRICKERY, DEVILISH WISDOM. IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN FORGET IT, HE HAS RIGHT TO OPPRESS YOU, YOU ARE HIS PROPERTY, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY HE CAN INFLUENCE AND CONTROL YOU (EPHESIANS 2:1-2). BUT WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN IT’S DIFFERENT WHY?
COLOSSIANS 1:12-13
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
YOU ARE NOW A LIGHT UNDER THE RULERSHIP OF THE KINGDOM OF LIGHT, YOU ARE NOW PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST LOCATED WHERE: “FAR ABOVE”ALL PRINCPALITY AND POWER, AND POWER AND MIGHT AND DOMINION, AND EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED IN THIS WORLD AND IN THAT WHICH TO COME (EPH 2:6, 1:20-21), YOU ARE NOW ABOVE, AND HE THAT’S ABOVE IS ABOVE ALL (JOHN 3:31), YOU ARE NOW A “god” BECAUSE GOD CAN ONLY GIVES BIRTH TO SMALL gods (JOHN 10:35, PS 82:6).
SO A GENUINE BELIEVER SHOULD NOT BE FOCUSED AND BE CARRIED AWAY WITH FIGHTING DARKNESS, HE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON INCREASING THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS LIGHT (PROV 4:18, 2 COR 3:18)

What we however have to fight are the wiles and trickery of the devil.
At creation devil had no power over the pre-fall man, he used the trickery to beat man and get the right to oppress the fallen man, but the resurrected man in Christ Jesus has now being taken back and even higher to the status of the pre-fall man in dominion. So the devil has gone to back to basics by using the same trickery to get to the resurrected man. THAT’S THE REAL WARFARE. THAT WAS WHAT GAVE PAUL CONCERN. 2 COR 11:3
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ”
The bible described the devil (king of Tyrus) has created by God, FULL OF WISDOM (Ezekiel 28:12-17).

That’s why one of his biggest weapons is fear. He gives someone a scare in dreams like Job (job 7:13-14), then fear enters the believer and the devil uses this portal to send in his other demon agents and it happens (Job 3:25). What a simple rebuke of the devil will stop, people start reading funny meanings like spirit husband and wife etc. (I’m not saying these aren’t the problem sometimes) and start a prayer of unbelief thinking that’s warfare prayer. DON’T BE TOO HASTY TO LABEL A DREAM AN OPPRESSION OF THE DEVIL, MOST TIMES IT’S JUST HIS SCARE TACTICS.
The devil will try to use OUR IGNORANCE, guilt of past sins, besetting sins, culture, superstitions, wrong doctrine, friends, family, even brethren in the faith indirectly as weapons of his trickery.
Most times the actual problem may even arise because we don’t control our flesh and carnal thoughts and he capitalizes on this. He often tries to get me in particular by either being too busy with my Job or too busy trying to help others instead of watching my own standing and daily communion with God.
THAT’S WHY BEING SPIRITUAL BATTLE READY IS FAR MORE RELEVANT THAN THE ACTUAL WARFARE, WE OUGHT TO BE MORE FOCUSED PUTTING ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD (EPHESIANS 6: 11-17), YOU DON’T GO ABOUT PRESCRIBING OR RUSHING WARFARE PRAYER’S ON EVERY SMALL ISSUE(EPHESIANS 6:18) IGNORING PAUL’S INSTRUCTION TO CHECK YOUR BODY ARMOUR. THAT’S WHY PEOPLE PRAY AND PRAY AND GET NO RESULT AND SOME PEOPLE CONFRONT THE DEVIL AND GET RESULTS QUICKLY. THE HELMET OF SALVATION, BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD, YOUT BELT OF TRUTH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THE SHIELD OF FAITH WHICH PRIMARILY COMES FROM THE WORD OF GOD, THE FEET SHOD IN PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THESE ARE VITAL, YOU CAN SEE HOW ADEQUATE SPIRITUAL PREPARATION IN LIVING READY IS MORE IMPORTANT. A VERY ANOINTED MENTOR OF MINE (BISHOP ABIOYE) ONCE SHOCKED ME WITH THIS REVELATION THAT HE PRAYS MORE ABOUT HIS SANCTIFICATION THAN ANY THING ELSE EVEN EMPOWERMENT, BECAUSE ONE COMES BEFORE THE OTHER, AND THAT’S THE TRUTH. CHRISTIANS ARE TOO BUSY WORKING FOR GOD FIGHTING THE DEVIL THAN CHECKING OUT THEIR WALK WITH GOD. IN FACT MOST THINGS WE ATTRIBUTE TO DEMONS ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCT OF OUR OWN SPIRITUAL IGNORANCE. IT’S REVELATION KNOWLEDGE THAT DELIVERS MOST TIMES AND NOT WARFARE PRAYERS. BECAUSE WHEN WE KNOW THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH SETS US FREE. I GOT A REVELATION ON DIVINE HEALTH FROM ROMANS 8:11 AND TILL DATE, I HAVE NEVER HAD TO PRAY ABOUT ANY SICKNESS EVEN HEADACHE FOR ABOUT 2 YRS NOW. MAYBE IF WE PRAYED MORE ON BEING FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL IN ALL SPIRITUAL WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, PRAY FOR DIVINE GUIDANCE MORE, PRAY MORE ABOUT OUR SANCTIFICATION, STUDY MORE, SUBDUE THE FLESH MORE, WE WILL HAVE LESS WARFARE TO DEAL WITH AND WHEN WE DO, WE SUCCEED WITH FLYING COLORS. THAT’S JUST MY LINE OF REASON.

I will like to add that there are some things you can’t pray into, you just have to get the necessary scriptural principle and operate it. God is a covenant keeping God, when we play our part, he plays his part. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN’T PRAY AND BIND YOUR WAY INTO KINGDOM PROSPERITY, YOU JUST HAVE TO DISCOVER THE BIBLICAL SECRETS TO IT AND APPLY IT IN FAITH AND THE DEVIL BECOMES POWERLESS TO STOP YOU.
SPIRITUAL ILLUMINATION IS MORE KEY FOLKS, FOR EXAMPLE IF A SOMEONE IS HAVING MARITAL DELAY, INSTEAD OF TELLING THE PERSON TO GO AND FAST FOR 7 DAYS AND BIND ALL THE IMAGINARY DEVIL AND WITCHES. I WILL RATHER TELL THE PERSON TO GET ILLUMINATED FIRST ON GOD’S WILL ABOUT MARRIAGE, I WILL LET THE PERSON DO A SELF DIAGNOSTIC CHECK AND SEE WHETHER THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THEIR HABITS AND BELIEFS, I DID RATHER LET THE PERSON CHECK WHETHER THEY WILL MAKE A GOOD SPOUSE FIRST, I WILL RATHER LET THEM KNOW THAT ,HE THAT FINDETH A WIFE, FINDETH A GOOD THING (PROV 18:22)AND THOSE WHO SEEK THE LORD SHALL NOT LACK ANY GOOD THING (PSALMS 34:10), THAT HE SETS THE SOLITARY IN FAMILY (PSALMS 68:6) AND THAT GOD SAID WE SHOULD NOT TELL A PERSON TO GO AND COME AGAIN IF IT’S IN OUR POWER TO DO IT (PROV 3:27-28), HENCE HE’S COMMITED TO ANSWER THEM WITH SPEED IF THEY ASK HIM USING HIS WILL (1 JOHN 5:14-15) ON THE MATTER (THOSE HIGHLIGHTED SCRIPTURES ABOVE) ……. THOSE TRUTHS ALONE DISARM THE DEVIL. AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT THEN REVEALS THAT THERE IS AN EVIL ENTITY BEHIND IT, WE THEN DEAL WITH IT. MINISTERS SHOULD NOT BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND TRY TO DO WITH WARFARE PRAYERS WHAT THE WORD IS MEANT TO DO OR ELSE THEY BECOME APOSTLES OF FEAR.
HAVE A LOVELY NIGHT AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IF ANYONE HAS ANY CORRECTION AND ADDITION, I’M GLAD TO HEAR. I’M SORRY BRO CHARLYG1 I DIDN’T TAKE PERMISSION BEFORE POSTING THIS ON YOUR FORUM. , MAY YOU CONTINUE TO ABOUND IN GRACE, WISDOM, ANOINTING AND REVELATIONS. GOD BLESS YOU.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Lamasta(m): 7:55pm On Aug 16, 2016
etidy:


You are absolutely right that we need to do warfare, in fact we fight and win battles everyday that we don't know of. I'M JUST WARNING AGAINST EXCESSES. we must be led by the Spirit of God always. The reality is there are three kind of churches and Christians today. we have on one extreme the buttie/21st century Christians who don't wanna do any warfare, they rather ignore the reality of demons and wickedness of the the world, they are the one's where the church has turned into a socializing and networking center . then on another extreme are people who ascribe every problems to demons, they are the ones who are always binding and casting, always seeing visions, these are Christians who never give room to sound doctrine, they never allow the word to dwell richly in them, they are in perennial fear of the devil. they warfare in the flesh. in both cases demon rule and ravage them. but there is a third group, who feed on the word, they are aware of their covenant rights. they know when to engage in warfare and when not to. they make spiritual diagnosis by the helps of the Holy spirit through the word or via the various gifts of the spirit and they apply the right scriptural prescription. this is the triumphant church and that's where God wants his people to be.
You are right, you see many christians today are afraid of the devil more than they are afraid of God which is not suppose to be so, there is this bible verse that is so illuminating to me it says we should fear the one that has the power to kill the flesh and te spirit which is God Almighty....

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Great0: 8:54pm On Aug 16, 2016
etidy:
Why warfare prayers shouldn’t be the mainstay of a believer’s prayer life part 1?

I felt compelled to write this piece here to put some things in their correct perspective and help those who may not have much depth in God’s word yet that visit this forum regularly. I want to add that with all sense of humility that I am just a learner in this kingdom (less than 2yrs in the faith) so maybe some of what I am saying may be from ignorance and I’m open to corrections.

I’ve noticed a dangerous trend where warfare prayers is embraced in excess in churches nowadays. It’s also common that we prescribe it a lot for people that make enquiries on every little challenge, dreams or nightmare. I find this disturbing because having studied the bible a little, the lifestyle of many giants in the faith and anointed books on prayer of men with proofs of dominion like Kenneth Hagin, Bishop Oyedepo, I have realized surprisingly that warfare prayer should be the least on the prayer list on a Christian. Shocking right? Here are my reasons:
From Ephesians 6:18, we are made to understand that there are different kinds of prayer. And we ought to learn how to engage all of them as the spirit leads per time, we are not to be fixated on only one kind of prayer. The whole world lies in wickedness (1 John 5:19) and we have to fight battles from time to time. But the reason why MANY CHRISTAINS ARE DEFEATED IN BATTLE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FIXATED ABOUT THE BATTLES THAN MAKING THEMSELVES BATTLE READY ALL THE TIME. IT’S JUST LIKE USAIN BOLT BEING OBSESSED ABOUT ONLY THE OLYMPICS 100 M FINAL (WHERE THE WARFARE PRAYER IS NEEDED) AND NOT TAKING THE DAY TO DAY TRAINING AND DIETING SERIOUS (WORD AND OTHER KINDS OF PRAYER). HE WILL FAIL WOEFUL. WHY? “If you faint in the day of adversity, Your strength is small” (proverbs 24:10) The focus of a believer should not be about binding every imaginary devil. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT CHANGING HIS LEVEL OF COMMAND AND SPIRITUAL STRENGTH FIRST. DON’T BE WARFARE CONSCIOUS, BE GOD CONSCIOUS, BE RIGHTEOUSNESS CONSCIOUS, BE POWER CONSCIOUS, BE REVELATION CONSCIOUS, BE WORD CONSCIOUS. KNOW WHO THE WORD OF GOD SAYS YOU ARE FIRST, BUILD YOUR FAITH, BUILD POWER FIRST OR WARFARE PRAYERS WILL BE FRUSTATING. MAKE YOUR AXE SHARP FIRST AND THEN YOU CUT THE TREE WITH ONE STRIKE.
Warfare prayers are weapons of offense but they are only effective in the hands of people who are skilled (Heb 5:14). That’s why by mere appearance of one person all the demons have taken to their heels while, another person has shouted in Jesus name 100 times and use 10 buckets of anointing oil and yet the demon is just there chilling..lol . Every born again Christian is a light (matt 5:13 and 14) but the level of brightness differs. We should be more focused about increasing our intensity by being more like Christ in holiness and dominion. Most times the devil attacks me, I do less of warfare prayers, instead I search myself to see the loopholes I left, I repent of them and sanctify myself, I study and pray to change my level of command and for revelation on what I must do and that’s it. There is an extent of power you carry, some demons don’t come near you.

STUDY THE NEW TESTAMENT WELL, YOU WON’T SEE THE APOSTLES STRUGLING AND WAILING BECAUSE OF TINY DEMONS EXCEPT ONLY ONCE IN MATTHEW 17:21 BECAUSE THEIR LEVEL OF COMMAND WAS LOW THEN. IT’S NOT FOUND ANYWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE WARFARE PRAYERS WAS THEIR FOCUS. RATHER YOU WILL FIND PRAYERS ABOUT BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, WITH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, PRAYER FOR THE SPREAD OF THE GOSPEL, PRAYER FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW CONVERTS, PRAYER FOR LEADERS, PRAYER FOR SANCTIFICATION, PRAYERS FOR OUTBREAK OF SIGNS AND WONDERS, PRAYERS FOR DIVINE GUIDANCE.

As I round up this first part, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT ON THE DAY OF BATTLE, “YOU DON’T WARFARE WITH THE DEVIL” THAT’S A BLATANT MISNOMER AND THAT MENTALITY IS A SNARE, IF YOU WARFARE WITH HIM HE WILL BE BEAT YOU. WHAT WE DO IS TO “EXERCISE AUTHORITY”. YOU TELL HIM “ SATAN STOP THERE “ AND HE STOPS, YOU TELL HIM “SATAN GET LOST” AND HE GETS LOST, YOU TELL HIM SHUT UP AND HE SHUTS UP. YOU DON’T FIGHT HIM LOL, IN BOXING YOU ONLY FIGHT SOMEONE OF YOUR WEIGHT CATEGORY. NO! YOU DON’T, YOU ARE NOT HIS WEIGHT CATEGORY, YOU ARE CARRYING JESUS’S WEIGHT CATEGORY. WHY? BECAUSE YOU MUST HAVE BUILT AUTHORITY IN GOD’S WORD AND IN PRAYER. THE DEVIL IS TOO SMALL TO BE THE FOCUS OF YOUR PRAYER LIFE, THAT YOU NOW GO ON PRAYER AND FASTING BECAUSE OF HIM ALL THE TIME. GOD AND HIS KINGDOM SHOULD BE THE FOCUS (MATT 6:33) AND AS YOU DO, YOU BECOME MORE LIKE HIM. I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME ONE TINY DEMON ATTACKED ME, I WOKE TO SEE HE HAD HELD ME DOWN. THE MORE I STRUGGLED, THE MORE IT OVERPOWERED ME. THEN I WAS LIKE GOD WHATS HAPPENING KE? A SMALL VOICE SPOKE FROM WITHIN “DON’T OVERESTIMATE THE ENEMY”. I JUST RELAXED AND BEFORE I MENTIONED IN JESUS NAME ONCE LMAO. JUST IMAGINE THE REST...LOL…

IN PART 2, BY GOD’S GRACE I WILL EXPLAIN EPHESIANS 6: 12 TO VERSE 18. WARFARE PRAYER IS NEEDED BUT IT’S MUST NEVER GET TO WHERE WE ARE INDIRECTLY IDOLISING THE DEVIL BY EVEN REVERING THE DEVIL INSTEAD OF GOD….. THANKS
TRUTH INDEED.
Let the warfare be directed toward ones'spiritual life(christian life) not on worldly possession and desires.
RIDE ON BRO.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 16, 2016
nnamdiosu:



if I may ask, why did you say so. from revelation or intuition.
By revelation, I am part of Angelic activities arroud the globe ; There is an end time build of a christian army. And he happens to be one of the called,the only question is will he be qualified to be chosen.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Great0: 9:49pm On Aug 16, 2016
etidy:
Why warfare prayers shouldn’t be the mainstay of a believer’s prayer life pt 2

One of the least understood scriptures in the bible which many so FAKE DELIVERANCE ministers and warfare prayer addicts have turned upside down is Ephesians 6:12
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places “
Many people just take this verse out of context and run with it. Kenneth Hagin would always say when people don’t have a sound understanding of a thing God says or is planning to do, they run into excesses and get into confusion and error.
Yes there is actually a wrestling against the forces of darkness, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS COMPULSORY FOR ALL BELIEVERS. But it’s not in the way many people view it. Some people have turn this to 90% of their prayer points, binding and casting every dream, every cat or bird, mother in law, trying to kill demon spirits and more. You will see so many churches holding many crusades with many funny titles around, yet most of these churches have no results, some even go as far as wearing military camouflage .lol.. THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS CHAPTER WAS SAYING ABOUT THEIR ADVERSARY “THE DEVIL”. But what does the bible say about warfare against him. Ephesians 6: 11-13 kjv
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand
You see what Paul was saying that in the day of battle what you should be weary about is actually the trickery of the devil (NOT HIS POWER). PLEASE HOLD THAT LAST STATEMENT WITH BOTH HANDS IT WILL LIBERATE YOU.
In reality for every BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD, the devil and sin his most potent weapon has no power over you, what he however uses to attack you is TRICKERY, DEVILISH WISDOM. IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN FORGET IT, HE HAS RIGHT TO OPPRESS YOU, YOU ARE HIS PROPERTY, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY HE CAN INFLUENCE AND CONTROL YOU (EPHESIANS 2:1-2). BUT WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN IT’S DIFFERENT WHY?
COLOSSIANS 1:12-13
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
YOU ARE NOW A LIGHT UNDER THE RULERSHIP OF THE KINGDOM OF LIGHT, YOU ARE NOW PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST LOCATED WHERE: “FAR ABOVE”ALL PRINCPALITY AND POWER, AND POWER AND MIGHT AND DOMINION, AND EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED IN THIS WORLD AND IN THAT WHICH TO COME (EPH 2:6, 1:20-21), YOU ARE NOW ABOVE, AND HE THAT’S ABOVE IS ABOVE ALL (EPH 3:31), YOU ARE NOW A “god” BECAUSE GOD CAN ONLY GIVES BIRTH TO SMALL gods (JOHN 10:35, PS 82:6).
SO A GENUINE BELIEVER SHOULD NOT BE FOCUSED AND BE CARRIED AWAY WITH FIGHTING DARKNESS, HE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON INCREASING THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS LIGHT (PROV 4:18, 2 COR 3:18)

What we however have to fight are the wiles and trickery of the devil.
At creation devil had no power over the pre-fall man, he used the trickery to beat man and get the right to oppress the fallen man, but the resurrected man in Christ Jesus has now being taken back and even higher to the status of the pre-fall man in dominion. So the devil has gone to back to basics by using the same trickery to get to the resurrected man. THAT’S THE REAL WARFARE. THAT WAS WHAT GAVE PAUL CONCERN. 2 COR 11:3
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ”
The bible described the devil (king of Tyrus) has created by God, FULL OF WISDOM (Ezekiel 28:12-17).

That’s why one of his biggest weapons is fear. He gives someone a scare in dreams like Job (job 7:13-14), then fear enters the believer and the devil uses this portal to send in his other demon agents and it happens (Job 3:25). What a simple rebuke of the devil will stop, people start reading funny meanings like spirit husband and wife etc. (I’m not saying these aren’t the problem sometimes) and start a prayer of unbelief thinking that’s warfare prayer. DON’T BE TOO HASTY TO LABEL A DREAM AN OPPRESSION OF THE DEVIL, MOST TIMES IT’S JUST HIS SCARE TACTICS.
The devil will try to use OUR IGNORANCE, guilt of past sins, besetting sins, culture, superstitions, wrong doctrine, friends, family, even brethren in the faith indirectly as weapons of his trickery.
Most times the actual problem may even arise because we don’t control our flesh and carnal thoughts and he capitalizes on this. He often tries to get me in particular by either being too busy with my Job or too busy trying to help others instead of watching my own standing and daily communion with God.
THAT’S WHY BEING SPIRITUAL BATTLE READY IS FAR MORE RELEVANT THAN THE ACTUAL WARFARE, WE OUGHT TO BE MORE FOCUSED PUTTING ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD (EPHESIANS 6: 11-17), YOU DON’T GO ABOUT PRESCRIBING OR RUSHING WARFARE PRAYER’S ON EVERY SMALL ISSUE(EPHESIANS 6:18) IGNORING PAUL’S INSTRUCTION TO CHECK YOUR BODY ARMOUR. THAT’S WHY PEOPLE PRAY AND PRAY AND GET NO RESULT AND SOME PEOPLE CONFRONT THE DEVIL AND GET RESULTS QUICKLY. THE HELMET OF SALVATION, BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD, YOUT BELT OF TRUTH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THE SHIELD OF FAITH WHICH PRIMARILY COMES FROM THE WORD OF GOD, THE FEET SHOD IN PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THESE ARE VITAL, YOU CAN SEE HOW ADEQUATE SPIRITUAL PREPARATION IN LIVING READY IS MORE IMPORTANT. A VERY ANOINTED MENTOR OF MINE (BISHOP ABIOYE) ONCE SHOCKED ME WITH THIS REVELATION THAT HE PRAYS MORE ABOUT HIS SANCTIFICATION THAN ANY THING ELSE EVEN EMPOWERMENT, BECAUSE ONE COMES BEFORE THE OTHER, AND THAT’S THE TRUTH. CHRISTIANS ARE TOO BUSY WORKING FOR GOD FIGHTING THE DEVIL THAN CHECKING OUT THEIR WALK WITH GOD. IN FACT MOST THINGS WE ATTRIBUTE TO DEMONS ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCT OF OUR OWN SPIRITUAL IGNORANCE. IT’S REVELATION KNOWLEDGE THAT DELIVERS MOST TIMES AND NOT WARFARE PRAYERS. BECAUSE WHEN WE KNOW THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH SETS US FREE. I GOT A REVELATION ON DIVINE HEALTH FROM ROMANS 8:11 AND TILL DATE, I HAVE NEVER HAD TO PRAY ABOUT ANY SICKNESS EVEN HEADACHE FOR ABOUT 2 YRS NOW. MAYBE IF WE PRAYED MORE ON BEING FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL IN ALL SPIRITUAL WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, PRAY FOR DIVINE GUIDANCE MORE, PRAY MORE ABOUT OUR SANCTIFICATION, STUDY MORE, SUBDUE THE FLESH MORE, WE WILL HAVE LESS WARFARE TO DEAL WITH AND WHEN WE DO, WE SUCCEED WITH FLYING COLORS. THAT’S JUST MY LINE OF REASON.

I will like to add that there are some things you can’t pray into, you just have to get the necessary scriptural principle and operate it. God is a covenant keeping God, when we play our part, he plays his part. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN’T PRAY AND BIND YOUR WAY INTO KINGDOM PROSPERITY, YOU JUST HAVE TO DISCOVER THE BIBLICAL SECRETS TO IT AND APPLY IT IN FAITH AND THE DEVIL BECOMES POWERLESS TO STOP YOU.
SPIRITUAL ILLUMINATION IS MORE KEY FOLKS, FOR EXAMPLE IF A SOMEONE IS HAVING MARITAL DELAY, INSTEAD OF TELLING THE PERSON TO GO AND FAST FOR 7 DAYS AND BIND ALL THE IMAGINARY DEVIL AND WITCHES. I WILL RATHER TELL THE PERSON TO GET ILLUMINATED FIRST ON GOD’S WILL ABOUT MARRIAGE, I WILL LET THE PERSON DO A SELF DIAGNOSTIC CHECK AND SEE WHETHER THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THEIR HABITS AND BELIEFS, I DID RATHER LET THE PERSON CHECK WHETHER THEY WILL MAKE A GOOD SPOUSE FIRST, I WILL RATHER LET THEM KNOW THAT ,HE THAT FINDETH A WIFE, FINDETH A GOOD THING (PROV 18:22)AND THOSE WHO SEEK THE LORD SHALL NOT LACK ANY GOOD THING (PSALMS 34:10), THAT HE SETS THE SOLITARY IN FAMILY (PSALMS 68:6) AND THAT GOD SAID WE SHOULD NOT TELL A PERSON TO GO AND COME AGAIN IF IT’S IN OUR POWER TO DO IT (PROV 3:27-28), HENCE HE’S COMMITED TO ANSWER THEM WITH SPEED IF THEY ASK HIM USING HIS WILL (1 JOHN 5:14-15) ON THE MATTER (THOSE HIGHLIGHTED SCRIPTURES ABOVE) ……. THOSE TRUTHS ALONE DISARM THE DEVIL. AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT THEN REVEALS THAT THERE IS AN EVIL ENTITY BEHIND IT, WE THEN DEAL WITH IT. MINISTERS SHOULD NOT BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND TRY TO DO WITH WARFARE PRAYERS WHAT THE WORD IS MEANT TO DO OR ELSE THEY BECOME APOSTLES OF FEAR.
HAVE A LOVELY NIGHT AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IF ANYONE HAS ANY CORRECTION AND ADDITION, I’M GLAD TO HEAR. I’M SORRY BRO CHARLYG1 I DIDN’T TAKE PERMISSION BEFORE POSTING THIS ON YOUR FORUM. , MAY YOU CONTINUE TO ABOUND IN GRACE, WISDOM, ANOINTING AND REVELATIONS. GOD BLESS YOU.
AWESOME.
KEYS of the Word is the Solution.
Bro, throw more light on that Roman 8:11 if possible.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by marytruth: 10:23pm On Aug 16, 2016
Hello Everybody

I just became a Christian 2 weeks ago and need to build my faith that God can.

Can somebody please send me a video clip of Adeboye of Redeemed saying he can raise the dead or has before?

You can post it here or email me please marythummim@gmail.com


Thanks

Mary
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Great0: 10:43pm On Aug 16, 2016
marytruth:
Hello Everybody

I just became a Christian 2 weeks ago and need to build my faith that God can.

Can somebody please send me a video clip of Adeboye of Redeemed saying he can raise the dead or has before?

You can post it here or email me please marythummim@gmail.com


Thanks

Mary
Your welcome.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by marytruth: 11:02pm On Aug 16, 2016
Great0:

Your welcome.

Thanks Great0
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 11:13pm On Aug 16, 2016
proevan:
By revelation, I am part of Angelic activities arroud the globe ; There is an end time build of a christian army. And he happens to be one of the called,the only question is will he be qualified to be chosen.

You must have being given God's name!
So what is your God given name?
--

Its being while
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 5:34am On Aug 17, 2016
GoodMuyis:


You must have being given God's name!
So what is your God given name?
--

Its being while

How did you Know that. You my friend are special. Can't tell on a faceless forum. Yea it has been

Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 9:24am On Aug 17, 2016
etidy:
Why warfare prayers shouldn’t be the mainstay of a believer’s prayer life pt 2

One of the least understood scriptures in the bible which many so FAKE DELIVERANCE ministers and warfare prayer addicts have turned upside down is Ephesians 6:12
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places “
Many people just take this verse out of context and run with it. Kenneth Hagin would always say when people don’t have a sound understanding of a thing God says or is planning to do, they run into excesses and get into confusion and error.
Yes there is actually a wrestling against the forces of darkness, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS COMPULSORY FOR ALL BELIEVERS. But it’s not in the way many people view it. Some people have turn this to 90% of their prayer points, binding and casting every dream, every cat or bird, mother in law, trying to kill demon spirits and more. You will see so many churches holding many crusades with many funny titles around, yet most of these churches have no results, some even go as far as wearing military camouflage .lol.. THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS CHAPTER WAS SAYING ABOUT THEIR ADVERSARY “THE DEVIL”. But what does the bible say about warfare against him. Ephesians 6: 11-13 kjv
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand
You see what Paul was saying that in the day of battle what you should be weary about is actually the trickery of the devil (NOT HIS POWER). PLEASE HOLD THAT LAST STATEMENT WITH BOTH HANDS IT WILL LIBERATE YOU.
In reality for every BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD, the devil and sin his most potent weapon has no power over you, what he however uses to attack you is TRICKERY, DEVILISH WISDOM. IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN FORGET IT, HE HAS RIGHT TO OPPRESS YOU, YOU ARE HIS PROPERTY, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY HE CAN INFLUENCE AND CONTROL YOU (EPHESIANS 2:1-2). BUT WHEN YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN IT’S DIFFERENT WHY?
COLOSSIANS 1:12-13
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
YOU ARE NOW A LIGHT UNDER THE RULERSHIP OF THE KINGDOM OF LIGHT, YOU ARE NOW PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST LOCATED WHERE: “FAR ABOVE”ALL PRINCPALITY AND POWER, AND POWER AND MIGHT AND DOMINION, AND EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED IN THIS WORLD AND IN THAT WHICH TO COME (EPH 2:6, 1:20-21), YOU ARE NOW ABOVE, AND HE THAT’S ABOVE IS ABOVE ALL (EPH 3:31), YOU ARE NOW A “god” BECAUSE GOD CAN ONLY GIVES BIRTH TO SMALL gods (JOHN 10:35, PS 82:6).
SO A GENUINE BELIEVER SHOULD NOT BE FOCUSED AND BE CARRIED AWAY WITH FIGHTING DARKNESS, HE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON INCREASING THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS LIGHT (PROV 4:18, 2 COR 3:18)

What we however have to fight are the wiles and trickery of the devil.
At creation devil had no power over the pre-fall man, he used the trickery to beat man and get the right to oppress the fallen man, but the resurrected man in Christ Jesus has now being taken back and even higher to the status of the pre-fall man in dominion. So the devil has gone to back to basics by using the same trickery to get to the resurrected man. THAT’S THE REAL WARFARE. THAT WAS WHAT GAVE PAUL CONCERN. 2 COR 11:3
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ”
The bible described the devil (king of Tyrus) has created by God, FULL OF WISDOM (Ezekiel 28:12-17).

That’s why one of his biggest weapons is fear. He gives someone a scare in dreams like Job (job 7:13-14), then fear enters the believer and the devil uses this portal to send in his other demon agents and it happens (Job 3:25). What a simple rebuke of the devil will stop, people start reading funny meanings like spirit husband and wife etc. (I’m not saying these aren’t the problem sometimes) and start a prayer of unbelief thinking that’s warfare prayer. DON’T BE TOO HASTY TO LABEL A DREAM AN OPPRESSION OF THE DEVIL, MOST TIMES IT’S JUST HIS SCARE TACTICS.
The devil will try to use OUR IGNORANCE, guilt of past sins, besetting sins, culture, superstitions, wrong doctrine, friends, family, even brethren in the faith indirectly as weapons of his trickery.
Most times the actual problem may even arise because we don’t control our flesh and carnal thoughts and he capitalizes on this. He often tries to get me in particular by either being too busy with my Job or too busy trying to help others instead of watching my own standing and daily communion with God.
THAT’S WHY BEING SPIRITUAL BATTLE READY IS FAR MORE RELEVANT THAN THE ACTUAL WARFARE, WE OUGHT TO BE MORE FOCUSED PUTTING ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD (EPHESIANS 6: 11-17), YOU DON’T GO ABOUT PRESCRIBING OR RUSHING WARFARE PRAYER’S ON EVERY SMALL ISSUE(EPHESIANS 6:18) IGNORING PAUL’S INSTRUCTION TO CHECK YOUR BODY ARMOUR. THAT’S WHY PEOPLE PRAY AND PRAY AND GET NO RESULT AND SOME PEOPLE CONFRONT THE DEVIL AND GET RESULTS QUICKLY. THE HELMET OF SALVATION, BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD, YOUT BELT OF TRUTH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THE SHIELD OF FAITH WHICH PRIMARILY COMES FROM THE WORD OF GOD, THE FEET SHOD IN PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD OF GOD. THESE ARE VITAL, YOU CAN SEE HOW ADEQUATE SPIRITUAL PREPARATION IN LIVING READY IS MORE IMPORTANT. A VERY ANOINTED MENTOR OF MINE (BISHOP ABIOYE) ONCE SHOCKED ME WITH THIS REVELATION THAT HE PRAYS MORE ABOUT HIS SANCTIFICATION THAN ANY THING ELSE EVEN EMPOWERMENT, BECAUSE ONE COMES BEFORE THE OTHER, AND THAT’S THE TRUTH. CHRISTIANS ARE TOO BUSY WORKING FOR GOD FIGHTING THE DEVIL THAN CHECKING OUT THEIR WALK WITH GOD. IN FACT MOST THINGS WE ATTRIBUTE TO DEMONS ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCT OF OUR OWN SPIRITUAL IGNORANCE. IT’S REVELATION KNOWLEDGE THAT DELIVERS MOST TIMES AND NOT WARFARE PRAYERS. BECAUSE WHEN WE KNOW THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH SETS US FREE. I GOT A REVELATION ON DIVINE HEALTH FROM ROMANS 8:11 AND TILL DATE, I HAVE NEVER HAD TO PRAY ABOUT ANY SICKNESS EVEN HEADACHE FOR ABOUT 2 YRS NOW. MAYBE IF WE PRAYED MORE ON BEING FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL IN ALL SPIRITUAL WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, PRAY FOR DIVINE GUIDANCE MORE, PRAY MORE ABOUT OUR SANCTIFICATION, STUDY MORE, SUBDUE THE FLESH MORE, WE WILL HAVE LESS WARFARE TO DEAL WITH AND WHEN WE DO, WE SUCCEED WITH FLYING COLORS. THAT’S JUST MY LINE OF REASON.

I will like to add that there are some things you can’t pray into, you just have to get the necessary scriptural principle and operate it. God is a covenant keeping God, when we play our part, he plays his part. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN’T PRAY AND BIND YOUR WAY INTO KINGDOM PROSPERITY, YOU JUST HAVE TO DISCOVER THE BIBLICAL SECRETS TO IT AND APPLY IT IN FAITH AND THE DEVIL BECOMES POWERLESS TO STOP YOU.
SPIRITUAL ILLUMINATION IS MORE KEY FOLKS, FOR EXAMPLE IF A SOMEONE IS HAVING MARITAL DELAY, INSTEAD OF TELLING THE PERSON TO GO AND FAST FOR 7 DAYS AND BIND ALL THE IMAGINARY DEVIL AND WITCHES. I WILL RATHER TELL THE PERSON TO GET ILLUMINATED FIRST ON GOD’S WILL ABOUT MARRIAGE, I WILL LET THE PERSON DO A SELF DIAGNOSTIC CHECK AND SEE WHETHER THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THEIR HABITS AND BELIEFS, I DID RATHER LET THE PERSON CHECK WHETHER THEY WILL MAKE A GOOD SPOUSE FIRST, I WILL RATHER LET THEM KNOW THAT ,HE THAT FINDETH A WIFE, FINDETH A GOOD THING (PROV 18:22)AND THOSE WHO SEEK THE LORD SHALL NOT LACK ANY GOOD THING (PSALMS 34:10), THAT HE SETS THE SOLITARY IN FAMILY (PSALMS 68:6) AND THAT GOD SAID WE SHOULD NOT TELL A PERSON TO GO AND COME AGAIN IF IT’S IN OUR POWER TO DO IT (PROV 3:27-28), HENCE HE’S COMMITED TO ANSWER THEM WITH SPEED IF THEY ASK HIM USING HIS WILL (1 JOHN 5:14-15) ON THE MATTER (THOSE HIGHLIGHTED SCRIPTURES ABOVE) ……. THOSE TRUTHS ALONE DISARM THE DEVIL. AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT THEN REVEALS THAT THERE IS AN EVIL ENTITY BEHIND IT, WE THEN DEAL WITH IT. MINISTERS SHOULD NOT BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND TRY TO DO WITH WARFARE PRAYERS WHAT THE WORD IS MEANT TO DO OR ELSE THEY BECOME APOSTLES OF FEAR.
HAVE A LOVELY NIGHT AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IF ANYONE HAS ANY CORRECTION AND ADDITION, I’M GLAD TO HEAR. I’M SORRY BRO CHARLYG1 I DIDN’T TAKE PERMISSION BEFORE POSTING THIS ON YOUR FORUM. , MAY YOU CONTINUE TO ABOUND IN GRACE, WISDOM, ANOINTING AND REVELATIONS. GOD BLESS YOU.


This post kinds of resonnates with me because i also came to realize that altough warfare is an integral part of our walk, it is not necessarily applicable in every aspect of our (spiritual) lives.
Let me testify how this works with me.
Sometime ago, i asked God to guide me in the prayer because when i came to God in prayer, either i didn't always know what to pray for, or even when i did, it was as if something wasn't right somewhere. Yes, i had a clumsy prayer life
So i said to God " Look, it's as if i don't know what i usually ask for, maybe i don't know how to ask or probably i lack the necessary wisdom. You teach me how to pray to you"

God's answer: If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.James 1:5.
I will teach you. You are a learner from now on. As a learner, you are in no position to make requests... for the moment. You let Me be your guide...and trust.

So this is how it's been going on:

If i do prayer warfare or any other prayer for example, i sometimes hear "Praise here". It may be for a day, or it may last a WHOLE week. There was a week here on Nairaland where i had to saturate my space with praise songs before this thread opened. How do you think i managed to hold this thread for so long grin grin grin

I may want to pray in tongues, sometimes one little "pressure" will urge me to read the Word instead or a partuicular scripture. This might last an hour or days on end

I may want to worship, something will "zoom" through my mind like "Tongues instead"

I may want to pray about something and one pressure will stop me and something will cross my mind like "Have faith here; do not dwell on that topic" or "just overlook this situation; it's a distraction; nothing serious here"

I may do prayer warfare and there will be a feeling of encouragement or even funnier i will hear this voice, you know the tone you employ when you looking at someone with side-eye " You know you have to forgive (so and so) here, naaw. Which one is binding and casting again? The most powerful weapon here is forgiveness"


If i feel fed up, i may be led to listen to worship songs or a particular song....

or i may NOT want to do something, (yes i get lazy and annoyingly petty sometimes grin) despite knowing God's opinion about it (Humans, ehn, i tell you! grin grin grin). And that voice will be adamant : "You will only do it!!!" and i will not have any peace that day unless i do it. I will sulk and fret and fuss. But that voice will maintain its position " Look, it's your time you're wasting, not mine. Don't forget I am the God that does not change; whatever you decide will NEVER change the fact that I remain God. It is you that will not go anywhere and eventually lose, if you don't do what I tell you; so the earlier, the better for you"

I could go on and on....
That's how it works for me.
Thanks for your edifying piece....

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by HananHezron: 9:45am On Aug 17, 2016
marytruth:
Hello Everybody

I just became a Christian 2 weeks ago and need to build my faith that God can.

Can somebody please send me a video clip of Adeboye of Redeemed saying he can raise the dead or has before?

You can post it here or email me please marythummim@gmail.com


Thanks

Mary

In Midnight Crew's voice
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WELCOME TO LAIIIF
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by temi4fash(m): 10:16am On Aug 17, 2016
proevan:


Those lights are flashes from angels ; And the colouration indicate a different angel. I know this because I have a strong angelic ministry,for talk with them.

They are encouragements

Bros,

Be careful of these visions of yours, The probability of Pollution is high..

Just careful and watchful

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by etidy: 10:20am On Aug 17, 2016
HananHezron:



This post kinds of resonnates with me because i also came to realize that altough warfare is an integral part of our walk, it is not necessarily applicable in every aspect of our (spiritual) lives.
Let me testify how this works with me.
Sometime ago, i asked God to guide me in the prayer because when i came to God in prayer, either i didn't always know what to pray for, or even when i did, it was as if something wasn't right somewhere. Yes, i had a clumsy prayer life
So i said to God " Look, it's as if i don't know what i usually ask for, maybe i don't know how to ask or probably i lack the necessary wisdom. You teach me how to pray to you"

God's answer: If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.James 1:5.
I will teach you. You are a learner from now on. As a learner, you are in no position to make requests... for the moment. You let Me be your guide...and trust.

So this is how it's been going on:

If i do prayer warfare or any other prayer for example, i sometimes hear "Praise here". It may be for a day, or it may last a WHOLE week. There was a week here on Nairaland where i had to saturate my space with praise songs before this thread opened. How do you think i managed to hold this thread for so long grin grin grin

I may want to pray in tongues, sometimes one little "pressure" will urge me to read the Word instead or a partuicular scripture. This might last an hour or days on end

I may want to worship, something will "zoom" through my mind like "Tongues instead"

I may want to pray about something and one pressure will stop me and something will cross my mind like "Have faith here; do not dwell on that topic" or "just overlook this situation; it's a distraction; nothing serious here"

I may do prayer warfare and there will be a feeling of encouragement or even funnier i will hear this voice, you know the tone you employ when you looking at someone with side-eye " You know you have to forgive (so and so) here, naaw. Which one is binding and casting again? The most powerful weapon here is forgiveness"


If i feel fed up, i may be led to listen to worship songs or a particular song....

or i may NOT want to do something, (yes i get lazy and annoyingly petty sometimes grin) despite knowing God's opinion about it (Humans, ehn, i tell you! grin grin grin). And that voice will be adamant : "You will only do it!!!" and i will not have any peace that day unless i do it. I will sulk and fret and fuss. But that voice will maintain its position " Look, it's your time you're wasting, not mine. Don't forget I am the God that does not change; whatever you decide will NEVER change the fact that I remain God. It is you that will not go anywhere and eventually lose, if you don't do what I tell you; so the earlier, the better for you"

I could go on and on....
That's how it works for me.
Thanks for your edifying piece....

grin grin you are so on point. There are many times, I will like to do something else different from God's plan and it doesn't just flow. Sometimes I will be like sebi God likes worship and when I start I just get stuck and I get a nudge to study instead. The truth is we all have to be Led by the Holy Spirit, we don't decide for God how we serve him, he decides what he likes per time.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by temi4fash(m): 10:45am On Aug 17, 2016
etidy:


You are absolutely right that we need to do warfare, in fact we fight and win battles everyday that we don't know of. I'M JUST WARNING AGAINST EXCESSES. we must be led by the Spirit of God always. The reality is there are three kind of churches and Christians today. we have on one extreme the buttie/21st century Christians who don't wanna do any warfare, they rather ignore the reality of demons and wickedness of the the world, they are the one's where the church has turned into a socializing and networking center . then on another extreme are people who ascribe every problems to demons, they are the ones who are always binding and casting, always seeing visions, these are Christians who never give room to sound doctrine, they never allow the word to dwell richly in them, they are in perennial fear of the devil. they warfare in the flesh. in both cases demon rule and ravage them. but there is a third group, who feed on the word, they are aware of their covenant rights. they know when to engage in warfare and when not to. they make spiritual diagnosis by the helps of the Holy spirit through the word or via the various gifts of the spirit and they apply the right scriptural prescription. this is the triumphant church and that's where God wants his people to be.

God bless you for your wonderful piece.

Is there any place where they will tell you to go to warfare and not equip you with the right weapons i.e the word, understanding and others.

You made some very strong and valid point in your write up.

But what i would tell you categorically is these:

Spiritual Warfare cannot be over done.

Now, For you to engage in effective spiritual warfare you need the basis, which is the been born again, Having a relationship with God among other things.

Spiritual Warfare is needed to subdue the flesh.

Spiritual Warfare is needed to live a holy life.

Can you explain what you mean by Spiritual Ignorance?

Sometimes when you praise the lord you are in Warfare..

I have seen cases where prayers have been made concerning a particular situation and nothing has Happened and the lord said start to do praise and worship. And immediately there was an instant answer, Does that mean there was not warfare, No. because it was praise and worship that provided does not mean warfare did not take place.

I just want you to know that to walk these christian journey to the very end requires Warfare, From the days of John the baptist the kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent takes it by force, A man can be born again, Living right, Spirit filled and still be under oppression, A man can be born again spirit filled and the enemy can hijack the blessing of God for the life.

What Christ did for us on the cross of Calvary was to give us a ticket to sure victor,a ticket to heaven, Accepting him ensures that when your victory is secured and sure.

Shalom
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 17, 2016
temi4fash:


Bros,

Be careful of these visions of yours, The probability of Pollution is high..

Just careful and watchful


That is why we have the gift called discerning of spirits.

"But strong food belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." (Hebrews 5:14).

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by etidy: 12:52pm On Aug 17, 2016
temi4fash:


God bless you for your wonderful piece.

Is there any place where they will tell you to go to warfare and not equip you with the right weapons i.e the word, understanding and others.

You made some very strong and valid point in your write up.

But what i would tell you categorically is these:

Spiritual Warfare cannot be over done.

Now, For you to engage in effective spiritual warfare you need the basis, which is the been born again, Having a relationship with God among other things.

Spiritual Warfare is needed to subdue the flesh.

Spiritual Warfare is needed to live a holy life.

Can you explain what you mean by Spiritual Ignorance?

Sometimes when you praise the lord you are in Warfare..

I have seen cases where prayers have been made concerning a particular situation and nothing has Happened and the lord said start to do praise and worship. And immediately there was an instant answer, Does that mean there was not warfare, No. because it was praise and worship that provided does not mean warfare did not take place.

I just want you to know that to walk these christian journey to the very end requires Warfare, From the days of John the baptist the kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent takes it by force, A man can be born again, Living right, Spirit filled and still be under oppression, A man can be born again spirit filled and the enemy can hijack the blessing of God for the life.

What Christ did for us on the cross of Calvary was to give us a ticket to sure victor,a ticket to heaven, Accepting him ensures that when your victory is secured and sure.

Shalom
thank you very much sir, you very right sir. warfare as led by the spirit of God is the way. what spurred me to write this is because i'm tired of people attributing every little thing to demons or one wicked witch from the village or one ancestral curse grin grin. you need to see how ignorant people are, there is this church just in the next compound of where i live. they spend 80% of the time fighting imaginary demons, strongmen from the village and ancestral curses(this may be the actual problem sometimes), no prayers for word increase, none for conviction and conversion of souls, little about holiness, little or no sound teaching on core biblical concepts such as faith, grace, the holy spirit and more, guess what the church has had little or no growth in 10 years. My advise to people is when you see a pastor or prophet and all he does is see visions,prophesy, bind and cast and gives little or no room for sound teaching, just run grin,you are about to enter one chance be that. Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's word remains the sure thing.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by etidy: 1:09pm On Aug 17, 2016
Great0:

AWESOME.
KEYS of the Word is the Solution.
Bro, throw more light on that Roman 8:11 if possible.

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
The Holy Spirit not only quickens your spirit man and mind, it also quickens your physical body. He gives supernatural virtue to it. So you can't be continually filled with the Holy Spirit and be knocked down with sickness or feebleness. Of course that's the truth, but if the Christian is filled with the Holy Spirit and ignorant of this, the devil can have his way. That's why the word is so vital.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by temi4fash(m): 1:42pm On Aug 17, 2016
etidy:
thank you very much sir, you very right sir. warfare as led by the spirit of God is the way. what spurred me to write this is because i'm tired of people attributing every little thing to demons or one wicked witch from the village or one ancestral curse grin grin. you need to see how ignorant people are, there is this church just in the next compound of where i live. they spend 80% of the time fighting imaginary demons, strongmen from the village and ancestral curses(this may be the actual problem sometimes), no prayers for word increase, none for conviction and conversion of souls, little about holiness, little or no sound teaching on core biblical concepts such as faith, grace, the holy spirit and more, guess what the church has had little or no growth in 10 years. My advise to people is when you see a pastor or prophet and all he does is see visions,prophesy, bind and cast and gives little or no room for sound teaching, just run grin,you are about to enter one chance be that. Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's word remains the sure thing.

loooooooooooool...

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