tdayof:
That was a damn ambush. What were you expecting out there? Return fire while they are still trying to get out of the vehicle? The terrorist had to suppress them with RPG's.

tdayof:
That was a damn ambush. What were you expecting out there? Return fire while they are still trying to get out of the vehicle? The terrorist had to suppress them with RPG's.

andrewza:
Showed to to a MRS guy. He pointed out the LAV following distance was to close.


A lot of solders died in Angola and Namibia in learning dont speed. Thpugh that was more because speeding + landmine = flipping. Any case problems where the LAV going to fast to close to avoide the crash. After the crash they stayed buttoned up when you should dismount and attack. The vehicle any is a big target and will draw fire so dont be in one if it is trapped.

Henry240:


Those guys would have died anyhow. They were ambushed from both sides of the mountain. What i don't get is, why are they running away, they have all the equipment they need to fight with, so why run away?


They got Humvee, the sub-standard vehicle from Georgia and an IFV, so why bolt?

andrewza:


Yes it was a ambushe and they showed zero effort in conducting a counter ambush drill. In SA the troops disembarked and lay down supprising fire while the 60mm mortars and grenade launchers zero in. Then you attack.

tdayof:
Suppressive fire doesn't look like something that will work there . Two convoys down already and the terrorist had to keep firing. That convoy was hit already except they were able to get out, suppressive fire wouldn't work. The Humvee action shows cowardice.
I expected those in the vehicle hit to disembark and start something suppressive but seems they were locked in there.

Henry240:
BANGLADESH LAUDS NIGERIAN MILITARY SUCCESS IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST INSURGENCY


The Bangladesh Armed Forces have lauded the success of
the Nigerian Military to overcome insurgency and expressed
their willingness to adopt the Nigerian Armed Forces
winning strategy to combat insurgency and criminalities in
their country.

This was contained in the remarks by the team leader of the
members of the Bangladesh National Defence College on
Geo-strategic study tour of Nigeria that visited the Chief of
Defence Staff (CDS), General Abayomi Gabriel Olonisakin at
the Defence Headquarters, Abuja. The leader of the
delegation, Rear Admiral Anwarul Islam, pointed out that the
dramatic way in which the Nigerian Military routed the
erstwhile deadly Boko Haram in the last one year was
worthy of commendation. He noted that the Nigerian Armed
Forces are well known for their contributions to peace
support operations worldwide and have contributed
tremendously to world and regional peace.


He observed that Bangladesh has a lot to learn from the
Nigerian Armed Forces and lauded the CDS for his
leadership direction. Admiral Islam applauded the Armed
Forces for successfully degrading the Boko Haram Terrorists
in the North East and tackling other criminalities in Nigeria.
He solicited cordial military bilateral relations with the
Nigerian Armed Forces..

pacretus:
they sure do have alot to learn from us,the good and the bad side of CTCOIN.(even the pakis).My best slogan in this war was/is #NEVER AGAIN..it marked the turning point for the military.2012-2013 was the bloodliest year in the timeline of insurgency/terrorism in this country.my worst moments were the falling of damboa,gwoza and bama.reading beegeagles blog,the words that frightened me the most were,....#BATTLE CURRENTLY UNGOING.#LOOKS LIKE the BHT are WINNING#.
The worst came ''DAMBOA,GWOZA,BAMA.has FALLING. chaiiii.painful old days.but thank GOD the reverse is the case now,Godspeed and a big kudos to the NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES.we shall be great again.#NEVER AGAIN.

Kenyans recruited by alshabaab Involved in Somalia Hotel Attack – Intelligence Report

MOGADISHU, Somalia — The Kenyan intelligence service has revealed the names of three Kenyans whom were said to have been involved in a deadly suicide car bomb and gun attack on Nasa-Hablod, a popular hotel located at Km-4 area in Mogadishu on June 25, 2016.

Issack Ibrahim Dyati, Yussuf Abdi and Issack Gola from north-east Kenya, including Mandera, were responsible for the July attack in Mogadishu that left at least 20 people dead, including deputy minister for environment of Somalia, Buri Hamza.The three men had been fighting for Al Shabaab for almost two years and were trained in Somalia to take part in the group’s attacks against Somali and AU peacekeepers (AMSIOM).

An official in Jubbaland State of Somalia, who did not want to be named, has confirmed to ArmedPolitics about the report, and he said that the Kenyans were killed during the hotel siege by Somali security forces.

The Kenyan Intelligence report said that Al Shabaab is enlisting more recruits from Kenya than any other country in East Africa. Police are working out how to keep teenagers out of the hands of recruiters.

In the past few years, Al Shabaab has intensified its recruitment of the mostly Kenyan youth and other pastoralist tribes from the larger Isiolo County to beef up its ranks.

Al Shabaab operatives within Isiolo town have recruited mostly young and unsuspecting school girls and boys.

Henry240:


Those guys would have died anyhow. They were ambushed from both sides of the mountain. What i don't get is, why are they running away, they have all the equipment they need to fight with, so why run away?


They got Humvee, the sub-standard vehicle from Georgia and an IFV, so why bolt?

patches689:


American training from the 1990's that got institutionalized in the Saudi Army

Their doctrine was to allways clear the ambush - ie dont stop when the bullets start flying - and then when clear you dismount and counter attack. It is a doctrine designed for Europe - where there is lots of cover - so its easy to just push through, dismount behind a hedge or house and then counter attack.

Here you can see them doing it in Iraq (footage starts when they counter-attack after clearing the ambush)

But this is what their doctrine was BEFORE Afghanistan - where mountain passes and vast empty deserts mean that you have to drive 15min to get clear. So they updated it to: Dismount, Suppress, Egress.


But the Saudis, who dont think for themselves, have just blindly followed what the Americans taught them in the 1980's and 1990's and this is what you get.

Moral of the story: Learn what the instructors tell you, then apply it to your circumstances - evolve the knowledge.

tdayof:
NM

Henry240:


Did you design this?

tdayof:
No. It's a project signed between Defence hq and one of the ASO villa demo day finalist. The man has worked with different defence companies and governments such as Turkish alselan Was chanced to have some chat with him.

Henry240:


The doctrine makes a lot of sense if you have the surrounding cover to depend on, as you stated. It makes sense that way.

Leave the ambush area, strategise then counter-attack. No guinea pigs, makes sense.


The thing is, from the video, the Saudis weren't carrying out any doctrine, they were actually fleeing, fleeing the area. This is the issue.


Moral of the story: Gucci kit doesn't come with battle tact or bravery.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7sdmLD864&sns=tw

Henry240:


Alselan.... That's good. So, he's to design a secure communications network for DHQ is that it?


This is also your field right, electronics and secure communications? In essence what's he going to do for DHQ, what areas of application are they looking at?

tdayof:
It's more like an agreement for now but looks like something that's will yield a good result. You can check out some of his posts on twitter @TillerCyrus

Yea mine is electronic countermeasure. He makes and I destroy lol

Henry240:


That's fantastic. I read his interview and the quite intelligent questions you asked him. The navy operates a similar advanced C4ISR system, maybe even the Air Force. If the army comes onboard with this, this would greatly improve battlefield management. He's optimistic the army would finally come in this september. Although he had already signed a "research" MOU with the Army.


Our military would be far better for it, he has the system, he has his component suppliers ready, he's met with signal corps of the army, the army only now needs to give him the go ahead. There's still a lot of money he can make from selling to other vendors.



It's a pretty comprehensive C4ISR system.

Henry240:


The mere thought of this alone sent massive shivers down my spine, like i heard Nigeria in the distance.


We already have major issues, terrorists with ATGMs in Africa is not even the last thing i want to hear, i don't want to even hear/read it at all.

See how that LAV, that's a Piranha from Canada, cooked off after it was hit.

recent crash of a kenya police is rumoured to be due to a hired police chopper pilot

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sSxtr-kvdM