joseph1013:


Imagine! The last time he played for the Eagles was November 2014. That's almost two years. we are in September 2016. The last time he played for his club was May 2016, yet you want him near Super Eagles.

If we invite Aluko, it is justified. Aluko is playing REGULARLY for his club. You cannot even compare the two of them. I repeat: Let Juwon go another club and prove himself before we invite him. Is that asking for too much?

TheGoodJoe:


Yes, if there is a possibility of the player being good. In the game against Tanzania, Mikel, Onazi and Musa Mohammed did well. These were guys not long ago were made to look as if they were poor by the coaches in our club.

Unless you are saying we should have dropped Mikel when Mourinho dropped him.

BascoVanVeli:
I look at Musa Mohammed and i'm like "wat is the deal?" the boy is obviously a strong player, definately a european top 4 league player, and so why is he still on the bench in Turkey? I am completely baffled by the treatment of our players in Europe. Leon Balogun>John Stones but yet we get no offers, its like nobody even watched Ekong at the olympics not even Gent his club who didn't even bring him back from loan in Norway.

joseph1013:


You keep bringing up Mikel. For how many months did Mikel not play? Mikel was not in the first team but he was coming in as subs infrequently. It's part of match fitness.

Onazi was also coming on as subs after he was dropped from the first team.

Musa Mohammed came in to the U23 camp as a result of the porous defence of the Olympic team. He did well. Siasia wanted to take him, the club refused. He had match fitness.


I don't understand your argument. Do we have a porous defence in the Super Eagles? Juwon has not played for his club since May. He did not play the club's summer friendly games. He has not played the Scottish league games. He has not played the Europa League games. He has not even played the Scottish cup match. So on what basis should we call him? Because you like him?

BascoVanVeli:
I look at Musa Mohammed and i'm like "wat is the deal?" the boy is obviously a strong player, definately a european top 4 league player, and so why is he still on the bench in Turkey? I am completely baffled by the treatment of our players in Europe. Leon Balogun>John Stones but yet we get no offers, its like nobody even watched Ekong at the olympics not even Gent his club who didn't even bring him back from loan in Norway.

BascoVanVeli:
I look at Musa Mohammed and i'm like "wat is the deal?" the boy is obviously a strong player, definately a european top 4 league player, and so why is he still on the bench in Turkey? I am completely baffled by the treatment of our players in Europe. Leon Balogun>John Stones but yet we get no offers, its like nobody even watched Ekong at the olympics not even Gent his club who didn't even bring him back from loan in Norway.

TheGoodJoe:


Why I keep bringing up Mikel was that you can be good. Very good but the coaches choose not to use you. Mikel went over a season and a half without playing regularly. Sometimes, not as a Sub.

Onazi over a season.

When it comes to teams, it is not about if you have a porous defence or a strong attack. It is about, can we be stronger.

Mikel did well in the ten role from the Olympics to this Tanzania match. That does not mean it is settled. The competition has to go on and we have to continue trying to get stronger.

Mikel is doing well. His slickness is good. That does not mean we should not try to see if we will be stronger with Aluko behind the attack and Mikel in central midfield.

Our defence is not porous but can we be stronger? I believe so. If, note if Oshaniwa can make us stronger, it will be wrong of us not to try.

How can we try? By inviting him to camp. Manchester City had Adebayo, Bellamy, Tevez and Petrov.

That did not stop Mancini from signing Aguero, Dzeko, Silva and Nasri.

You keep building and not say are we porous?

joseph1013:


The bolded makes as much sense as saying that our defence can be stronger so let's invite Ismail Yakubu, a defender who plays for Newport County A.F.C. or Magnus Okuonghae, a defender who plays for Luton Town, or Bobsam Elejiko, another defender.

Or our midfield can be better so let's invite Dickson Etuhu, Stephen Sunday, or Marvin Ogunjimi.

Or our attack can be better so let's invite Obafemi Martins, Shola Ameobi, or Victor Anichebe.

So I ask you: Is the Nigerian Super Eagles a free for all? How can we invite people except on merit?

Juwon has not played for four months now and you want us to call him. Is the Super Eagles a rehabilitation centre?

Bro, I don't understand you.

TheGoodJoe:


Oshaniwa displaced Echiejile in the National team. Oshaniwa played better than Echiejile in the National team.

So there is a possibility he can play better than Echiejile if given his fair chance to prove himself.

If he can play better, our defence will be stronger.

TheGoodJoe:


As for Musa Mohammed. I do not know what to say. Only these coaches know what they are doing.

I see the National team as an Avenue to push our good players. We should not let the European Clubs decide for us. We call-up, train and select the best.

That is why I am a fan of full camps expecially during breaks.

TheGoodJoe:


Nah!!

Stones Is better than Leon Balogun although Leon Balogun is definitely a top player. Same goes to Ekong.

If Derik Osede can handle his career well, he can add to our ball playing defenders. He is also good.

Stones Is class.

BascoVanVeli:


It should always be easier for our young players to make the jump. For starters we have better access to them, we don't have to invite 50 players when we can just grab the best from our youth team.

joseph1013:


It's unbelievable. That's why we needed these players to have qualified for the AFCON. We need them to qualify for the World Cup. Many many scouts come to those tournaments.

BascoVanVeli:


I'd like to know in what ways is he better. Stones is the English David Luis too many mistakes. I've watched Leon in Germany and he is more mature in his defending.

joseph1013:


Jesus Christ! That was in 2014...I repeat 2014. We are in 2016. We cannot use the performance of 2014 to invite a player in 2016.

I don't know how else to explain this to you.

TheGoodJoe:


Age should not just be the line but the best available. Especially those who can give five to seven years.

Also, there should not be a reoccurring full camp. This imbalance happens due to frequent change of coaches.

I am not much a fan of Keshi's tactics but I saw him going somewhere.

When he played Onazi at a right back, Onazi was amazing. Keshi's Saco stopped that.

Aluko was slowly breaking into the the team. Same as Hope Akpan. The sack stopped this.

A coach should try all the best candidates. Whether young or old. From watching their old matches to current matches. Selecting the recent players who did well for the team. The promising youngsters and local players.

Screen them and know his best players. Once in a while, he screens again to make sure he is with the very best. Only the best in each role.

TheGoodJoe:


Stones made a lot of mistakes at Everton. There was a point he lost his place in the team due to his mistakes.

However, Under Guardiola, he is encouraged to play that way. Due to the compact nature of our play, his mistakes reduced and Stones Is looking a different player.

In one of our games this season, Stones Won the man of the match and had a 92% pass completion rate. He was one of the passers in our team.

Stones handles the ball better than Balogun (although Balogun is also brilliant on the ball). He is a better passer and his movement of the ball is better.

Balogun is a gifted tackler but our system does not require much tackling but ball handling. Guardiola also improved his defending skills and he is top quality now.

We questioned if Stones was worth any thing close to £47.5 Millon. Now it is not a debate.

BascoVanVeli:


U gave no real reason, if Stones was Nigerian he would be playing for Newcastle or backing up Ambrose in Celtic. He would have never been given another chance let alone be sold for such an amount.

BascoVanVeli:


I disagree only the top performing older players should be given a shout. The other spots belong to the younger ones. By selecting Musa the coach has given hope to all Nigerian players, that they too can make the jump.

TheGoodJoe:


There is a reason why Stones played for a coach who liked the highline and ball holding game. Martinez and now Guardiola.

His quality on the ball is what makes him better than others.

BascoVanVeli:


Balogun is a converted right back, he has quality on the ball.

TheGoodJoe:


Nah!!

Stones Is better than Leon Balogun although Leon Balogun is definitely a top player. Same goes to Ekong.

If Derik Osede can handle his career well, he can add to our ball playing defenders. He is also good.

Stones Is class.

TheGoodJoe:


Oshaniwa displaced Echiejile in the National team. Oshaniwa played better than Echiejile in the National team.

So there is a possibility he can play better than Echiejile if given his fair chance to prove himself.

If he can play better, our defence will be stronger.

zicky:
At no time did juwon displaced echejeile, Echejiele had injury before the world cup, Juwon is not good for the national team reason why successive coach ignored him

TheGoodJoe:


The spot does not belong to young but best performing players. That is like dropping Balogun for Awaziem because of age instead of what he brings to the team.

At the last World Cup, one of the best defenders of the competition was Yepes of Columbia and he was 37 years old. Imagine dropping such quality for a youngster who will not perform close to him.

It should be the best, especially with respect to the World Cup.

A young player playing should be the best option.

OdenigboAroli:


Guy,Oshaniwa bribe you? So,if you were Gernot Rohr you will invite an inactive player ? Let's be honest,Oshaniwa is not a fantastic player. I still prefer Echiejile over him. I watched the Nigeria 's Tanzania game and you can see the experience and confidence in Echiejile. Hell,i will play Amuzie before Oshaniwa.

zicky:
why would someone call Stone class, what has he done. I see stone as an upcoming defender like Rashford