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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ascendo(m): 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2016
[quote author=4everGod post=492469lll the scriptuse said...
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ascendo(m): 11:37pm On Sep 11, 2016
ascendo:
Educate yourself "Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 But food does not commend us to God; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse.

9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols? 11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble."1 Cor. 8
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by omosuper(m): 11:38pm On Sep 11, 2016
ajisebioyo1:
Not until recently, salah ram is not meant for eating. Even in mecca they killed and leave the ram on the spot where they killed it, then the less privileged may take from it if they like. I'm my own view salah ram's blood is meant for sacrifice and not for eating. Although I used to eat it, but now I can only eat food from my Muslim friends on eid fitrik. Conclusively rams killing in eid kabir is not for celebration but for sacrifice. Neverthelss, if it is for celebration why can't rich people go for big cows for the celebration?. My opinion
The reason's that, it was a ram God gave to Abraham. cows, camels, goats etc are also allowed.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by jacklexy(m): 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2016
Ur
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
Ur mumu no get part.. I wonder d way ppl conclude on oder ppls religious matter without any knowledge of it. Instead of saying rubbish u need ask or keep kwayet... mtchewww

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by iAreMozelle(m): 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2016
flamingREED:


You're wrong man.

So long as you're aware its offered to/blessed by the devil,
You eat to your soul's damnation.

1 Corinthians 10
20 BUT I SAY, THAT THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, AND NOT TO GOD: AND I WOULD NOT THAT YE SHOULD HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH DEVILS.

21 YE CANNOT DRINK THE CUP OF THE LORD, AND THE CUP OF DEVILS: YE CANNOT BE PARTAKERS OF THE LORD'S TABLE, AND OF THE TABLE OF DEVILS.

22 DO WE PROVOKE THE LORD TO JEALOUSY? ARE WE STRONGER THAN HE?

23 ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS ARE NOT EXPEDIENT: ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS EDIFY NOT.

25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:
26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.
28 BUT IF ANY MAN SAY UNTO YOU, THIS IS OFFERED IN SACRIFICE UNTO IDOLS, EAT NOT FOR HIS SAKE THAT SHEWED IT, AND FOR CONSCIENCE SAKE: FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND THE FULNESS THEREOF:
29 CONSCIENCE, I SAY, NOT THINE OWN, BUT OF THE OTHER: FOR WHY IS MY LIBERTY JUDGED OF ANOTHER MAN'S CONSCIENCE?

31 WHETHER THEREFORE YE EAT, OR DRINK, OR WHATSOEVER YE DO, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD.

32 GIVE NONE OFFENCE, NEITHER TO THE JEWS, NOR TO THE GENTILES, NOR TO THE CHURCH OF GOD:

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, THAT THEY MAY BE SAVED.



There's a great difference between what is well known to be the devil's feast
And what is presented in the market place for sale or in a casual feast for entertainment.

FOR THE FORMER IT'S TRANSGRESSION TO EAT.
IN THE TWO FOLLOWING CASES, RESPECT THE CONSCIENCE OF OTHERS



You are right and also wrong... I'll direct you to v26 and v31...read with understanding
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by zionwest(m): 11:42pm On Sep 11, 2016
Tpave:
Just asking cos somebody asked me this question this morning and I decided to bring it to the forum.
bringing this topic to the foreum is a very stupid decision, you just succeded in starting an unnecessary religion debate ..if you had asked your parents or your pastor, all these wont be necessary..i'm sure no one asked you no question, you only know why you did this..fool

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by LuckyLadolce(m): 11:43pm On Sep 11, 2016
komododragons:
do not eat the food that is been prepare for idol.

Islam warship idol. (moon god) and this is the month the moon god will look for sacrifice which takes place at Mecca.
I pity your life.. I pray you get well soon.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Sep 11, 2016
vinneyville:
am sorry bro, but u are the most senseless being on planet earth just for making this statement
Assalamu alaika ya akhi. I am a muslim. I was being sarcastic
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ajisebioyo1(m): 11:45pm On Sep 11, 2016
Antina:


What if ram is not killed first? Sir, that is what we have been killing, and some of my neighbours too. So?
all I know is, if you have not killed ram or camel, any other thing killed is not acceptable by Allah . You can kill elephant to ensure more meat but ur ram or camel is cumpulsory for the sacrifice. I stand to be corrected
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by mindeymeen: 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2016
How do Muslims justify the slaughtering of animals in the name of God?

Well, the question sounds to me like how do people justify fishing fish mercilessly and leaving them unbreathing, without a heart, agressively, until death? Before I justify, I considered four possibilties from your question: 1- You are against eating meat at all and so you are against killing animals by any means. 2- You are not against eating meat but you are against the way of killing animals, which is slaghtering. 3- You are against "merciless" slaghtering. 4- You have no problem with all the above but only when it is in Eid and/or in the name of Allah. If possibilty 1, then I think the question should be more general and not only for Muslims, and you have to justify on the other hand why we should NOT eat meat at all. Is it for healthy reasons? Is it for religious reasons? If religious, then I am sorry to tell you that Muslims do not believe that camels, cows, sheep, or goats are gods or vehicle of gods or any sort of divine that deserves to be worshipped. However, we believe that they are the creation of Allah and they were created for clothing, transporting, farming, drinking milk, and eating meat as well. If possibilty 2, then the question should be why do Muslims slaghter and not use other methods to kill animals? Well, Allah told us in the Quran to not eat animals only if it was slaghtered and by his name not any other gods or idols. Slaghtering is more healthy for meat because it extracts a big amount of blood out of the body of the animal. If possibility 3, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said "If someone slaughter an animal let him slaghter very well, let him sharpen his knife and let the animal rest). Also, we are instructed to not show other animals while slaghtering one. If possibilty 4, as I mentioned we do not eat any animal that was not slaughtred in the name of Allah. We do it anytime but Eid is special event where sacrificing animals is highly recommended. It is one of the greatest acts of worship to Allah the only creator of heavens and earth. He doesn't need to eat animals or drink blood but we do it out of submission and awareness of him. Finally, in Eid it is recommended to divide meat into three pieces: 1- charity for poor people to eat. 2- gift to relatives, nighbore or friends. 3- for the owner.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2016
Feanah:

True brother smiley I can see you felt very bad but don't forget-ofcourse we should share it with people of other religion too especially your neighbors , it won't be nice after they've perceived all that nice aroma and don't get anything.

1.Narrated AbuDharr: Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: AbuDharr, when you prepare the broth, add water to that and give that (as a present) to your neighbour. - Sahih Muslim, 1208

2.Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: Mujahid said that Abdullah ibn Amr slaughtered a sheep and said: Have you presented a gift from it to my neighbour, the Jew, for I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) say: Gabriel kept on commending the neighbour to me so that I thought he would make an heir? - Sunan Abu Dawood, 2446
Thanks for sharing this Hadith with me brother.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by omosuper(m): 11:49pm On Sep 11, 2016
Alcatraz003:


Pls allow Christians in Nigeria to have their separate existence. That is what christians crave for day and night.
Including those from my side of the country?The Westerners. You are a caveman..

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Nobody: 11:51pm On Sep 11, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.

I believe that your Bible says that liars will perish. The ram is rarely being shared to non Muslims. OK!

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Moahmed: 11:54pm On Sep 11, 2016
wree91:



I'm sorry to disappoint you but all the animals in the abattoir are slaughtered using the Arabic incantations you are talking about.

My advice is that you become a vegetarian

My guy you just knock him below the belt.He doesn't know that 'arabic incantation ' is recited before slaughtering any animal in the abbatoir.hahahahaha he has been eating animals offered to Allah all this while . foolish iliterate and religious bigot.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by olureignforever: 11:58pm On Sep 11, 2016
@OP, you need serious beating, you actually draw this type of crowd to ur thread. This is how religious war start o.


Go n preach d Gospel, you are here asking questions about Salah Ram...........


Chop if you wan chop, no chop if you no Wan chop. Sikena.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by jammy1993(m): 11:59pm On Sep 11, 2016
flamingREED:


You're wrong man.

So long as you're aware its offered to/blessed by the devil,
You eat to your soul's damnation.

1 Corinthians 10
20 BUT I SAY, THAT THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, AND NOT TO GOD: AND I WOULD NOT THAT YE SHOULD HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH DEVILS.

21 YE CANNOT DRINK THE CUP OF THE LORD, AND THE CUP OF DEVILS: YE CANNOT BE PARTAKERS OF THE LORD'S TABLE, AND OF THE TABLE OF DEVILS.

22 DO WE PROVOKE THE LORD TO JEALOUSY? ARE WE STRONGER THAN HE?

23 ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS ARE NOT EXPEDIENT: ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS EDIFY NOT.

25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:
26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.
28 BUT IF ANY MAN SAY UNTO YOU, THIS IS OFFERED IN SACRIFICE UNTO IDOLS, EAT NOT FOR HIS SAKE THAT SHEWED IT, AND FOR CONSCIENCE SAKE: FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND THE FULNESS THEREOF:
29 CONSCIENCE, I SAY, NOT THINE OWN, BUT OF THE OTHER: FOR WHY IS MY LIBERTY JUDGED OF ANOTHER MAN'S CONSCIENCE?

31 WHETHER THEREFORE YE EAT, OR DRINK, OR WHATSOEVER YE DO, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD.

32 GIVE NONE OFFENCE, NEITHER TO THE JEWS, NOR TO THE GENTILES, NOR TO THE CHURCH OF GOD:

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, THAT THEY MAY BE SAVED.



There's a great difference between what is well known to be the devil's feast
And what is presented in the market place for sale or in a casual feast for entertainment.

FOR THE FORMER IT'S TRANSGRESSION TO EAT.
IN THE TWO FOLLOWING CASES, RESPECT THE CONSCIENCE OF OTHERS
Excuse me here, bt dis is an Islamic tin and nt idolation. As little as I know, even the Bible contains this particular practice, doesn't it? It's religiously barbaric if u start comparing Islamic traditions to those of idolatry acts

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Damstarr(f): 12:00am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
aah lobatan, knowledge is what you need

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Kagarko(m): 12:01am On Sep 12, 2016
4everGod:


OP as a believer there is nothing wrong with eating it! The bible says that we can eat even those things offered to idols but we should give thanks to almighty God for it. However this is for a grounded believer who lives by faith and not fear.

A young believer with doubts shouldnt do so and also a mature believer should not eat it in the presence of an immature believer who still believes that its not right to eat it.....this is for the sake of his faith.

Every food or animal comes from God so be they from Native doctors, juju worshippers, muslims etc feel free to eat if you are spiritually matured to do so. Afterall how would they accept you or your message when you reject their hospitality?

God bless you.


I think We should stop deceiving ourselves.

In Islam we are allowed to eat all food from the Christian. Whether the animal is slaughtered or not. But any food prepared for the idols during celebration of Christmas and Easter It's Haram for any Muslim to eat. Not only Muslims even Jehovah Witness don't eat Christmas and Easter food prepared by the Christian.


Behold it is Halal for Muslims to eat your food. except that of the celebration for the birthday of the son of God and the day he died or resurrected (Taalallahu An Qaulihi Uluwan Kabeerah ).


As for the Ram meet it is not good for us to give to you. Except people who have interests in Islam.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by misscall247: 12:05am On Sep 12, 2016
Tpave:
Just asking cos somebody asked me this question this morning and I decided to bring it to the forum.
Who religion help


Celebrate with ur friends and neigbour wen thy celebrate

worship our God in ur own way

eh eh

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by komododragons: 12:07am On Sep 12, 2016
LuckyLadolce:
I pity your life.. I pray you get well soon.
pray to ya idol so that I will get well soon.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Nobody: 12:07am On Sep 12, 2016
Do you know that nearly all we eat are sacrifices made to idols? If you think it's not proper then don't eat at all. If you think it's then don't bother yourself with unnecessary argument
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:08am On Sep 12, 2016
Alcatraz003:
I find this question by the OP laughable because all the beef we eat in Nigeria are mostly prepared by muslims.

Even though islam is one hell of a terrifying religion, i take objection to this divisive thread as it will further alienate us from each other in Nigeria.

I am a christian and i will go out to my homie's house tomorrow to eat their meat even if they use it for any sacrifice, na them sabi.

As a confirm yoruba man, i don chop meat from all sources and nothing do me so ordinary sallah meat no fit do me anything.

Let's propagate what will unite us and not furrther divide us. Selah.
Islam is a terrifying religion but you want to eat the meat killed and cooked by the adherent of this terrifying religion. Please, read what you typed. Your problem is cognitive dissonance. You are just contradicting yourself. The problem with you Nigerian Christians is HYPOCRISY.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by jammy1993(m): 12:10am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
@Op It is not only wrong but it's a bad luck to eat it. They actually cast their lots (bad luck and past sins) on the ram before killing it and so if you partake in it,........

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by princecemo(m): 12:10am On Sep 12, 2016
ireneony:
It's not wrong.
Love your neighbour as yourself.
kukuma talk say hunger don waya u. Love kor chop ni.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by yak(m): 12:12am On Sep 12, 2016
flamingREED:


You're wrong man.

So long as you're aware its offered to/blessed by the devil,
You eat to your soul's damnation.

1 Corinthians 10
20 BUT I SAY, THAT THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, AND NOT TO GOD: AND I WOULD NOT THAT YE SHOULD HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH DEVILS.

21 YE CANNOT DRINK THE CUP OF THE LORD, AND THE CUP OF DEVILS: YE CANNOT BE PARTAKERS OF THE LORD'S TABLE, AND OF THE TABLE OF DEVILS.

22 DO WE PROVOKE THE LORD TO JEALOUSY? ARE WE STRONGER THAN HE?

23 ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS ARE NOT EXPEDIENT: ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME, BUT ALL THINGS EDIFY NOT.

25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:
26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.
28 BUT IF ANY MAN SAY UNTO YOU, THIS IS OFFERED IN SACRIFICE UNTO IDOLS, EAT NOT FOR HIS SAKE THAT SHEWED IT, AND FOR CONSCIENCE SAKE: FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND THE FULNESS THEREOF:
29 CONSCIENCE, I SAY, NOT THINE OWN, BUT OF THE OTHER: FOR WHY IS MY LIBERTY JUDGED OF ANOTHER MAN'S CONSCIENCE?

31 WHETHER THEREFORE YE EAT, OR DRINK, OR WHATSOEVER YE DO, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD.

32 GIVE NONE OFFENCE, NEITHER TO THE JEWS, NOR TO THE GENTILES, NOR TO THE CHURCH OF GOD:

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, THAT THEY MAY BE SAVED.



There's a great difference between what is well known to be the devil's feast
And what is presented in the market place for sale or in a casual feast for entertainment.

FOR THE FORMER IT'S TRANSGRESSION TO EAT.
IN THE TWO FOLLOWING CASES, RESPECT THE CONSCIENCE OF OTHERS

God bless u sir. I was abt writing same b4 I saw ur submission. u are really grounded may God grant u grace to b counted with the saints

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by jammy1993(m): 12:12am On Sep 12, 2016
Gaddafithe2nd:

Islam is a terrifying religion but you want to eat the meat killed and cooked by the adherent of this terrifying religion. Please, read what you typed. Your problem is cognitive dissonance. You are just contradicting yourself. The problem with you Nigerian Christians is HYPOCRISY.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Amsonme(m): 12:16am On Sep 12, 2016
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NIV:Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything?
20
NIV:No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.
21
NIV:You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons.
22
NIV:Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?
23
NIV:“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive.
24
NIV:No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.
25
NIV:Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,
26
NIV:for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”
27
NIV:If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience.
28
NIV:But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience.
29
NIV:I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience?
30
NIV:If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?
31
NIV:So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.
32
NIV:Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God—
33
NIV:even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved. Hope it helps.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by iamkingzlee(m): 12:18am On Sep 12, 2016
I dey chop am shaa. Smellymouth, if you like yourself, jejely send my meat in peace.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by MDOLOFU: 12:20am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
stop deceiving people pls is very bad to say what u don't kW. I hav Muslim friends so I kW wat u are saying is a big lie

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by puregrace(m): 12:22am On Sep 12, 2016
See them all. Africa my Africa! Both Muslims and Xtians don't even know if the person(or the people) that write both Quran and Bible are just like wole Soyinka, and they are here fighting over foreign religions. Just because our white masters read novels to us and we started seeing one another as infidels and idol worshippers. With this kind of mentality, Africa can only go backward.
N. B;I BELIEVE THERE'S GOD.,and will never be against anyone that believe in the creator of things, be it Xtians or Muslims. Take it easy on all this your religious bigotry and see this country move forward.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by smileyz16(m): 12:28am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
@Op It is not only wrong but it's a bad luck to eat it. They actually cast their lots (bad luck and past sins) on the ram before killing it and so if you partake in it,........
see ds religious bigot...how can we cast aspersions on a meat even we ourselves are still gonna eat...
d level of ur delusion is ineffable

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by bqoND(m): 12:29am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
echi I choro ka m nta anu aturu gi gi were mma bee mu ewu ahausa
lol. Can't you speak English u pitiful being. Am yoruba and not a Muslim but I find your post disgusting. You don't know the extent of damage those lies could cause. Anumanu.

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