Lennycool:
The Op is wrong on many counts. You need to understand first that bill gates and mark zuckerberg are public figures with large interests in their various companies. If bill or mark for instance went about bashing religion I'm sure a lot of religious people would boycott their products, and I bet some Islamic countries would even ban it all together. These people are business men, they're too wise to do something as stupid as criticizing religion publicly. They simply don't shi.t were they eat. Besides none of them are from Nigeria, were pastors own jets and mansions thanks to offerings and donations while their congregation are starving and the same pastors will tell them to wait for their reward in heaven, in nigeria where up to 97% of the population is religious, where pastors conduct fake miracles live in other to gain more members ( in the u.s no popular preacher will ever conduct a live miracle because he knows just a little investigation by the press will crush his story), they don't live in a country that spends millions yearly sending religious people on pilgrimages that have no usefulness to the country, while there are hungry mouths to feed, while our infrastructure is collapsing. A country that holds religious leader almost as high as their God himself.
And yet you ask why we the atheist in nigeria continue to speak? why we refuse to be silent? why we detest religion? Open your eyes Nigeria is not being helped by religion, religion is a cancer on our nation, one that is getting out of hand fast. So to every atheist in Nigeria I urge you to stand firm even if you have to stand alone. No one will speak out but us. We cannot let Nigeria be clouded by religion forever. The road ahead is tough and filed with hate and persecution. But we must not and cannot give up!!

Lennycool:
The Op is wrong on many counts. You need to understand first that bill gates and mark zuckerberg are public figures with large interests in their various companies.

Lennycool:
Besides none of them are from Nigeria, were pastors own jets and mansions

Lennycool:
the same pastors will tell them to wait for their reward in heaven,

Lennycool:
, they don't live in a country that spends millions yearly sending religious people on pilgrimages that have no usefulness to the country, while there are hungry mouths to feed, while our infrastructure is collapsing.

Lennycool:
A country that holds religious leader almost as high as their God himself.

Lennycool:

And yet you ask why we the atheist in nigeria continue to speak? why we refuse to be silent? why we detest religion?

Lennycool:
Open your eyes Nigeria is not being helped by religion, religion is a cancer on our nation, one that is getting out of hand fast.

Lennycool:
So to every atheist in Nigeria I urge you to stand firm even if you have to stand alone. No one will speak out but us.

Lennycool:
We cannot let Nigeria be clouded by religion forever. The road ahead is tough and filed with hate and persecution. But we must not and cannot give up!!

winner01:
Do you play the victim card?
Great, Just great!!!

obiZEAL:
what are u sharing?

hopefulLandlord:


victim card being played right here https://www.nairaland.com/3354076/sos-atheists-trying-use-nl

winner01:
My religious views on a religious sectio?

obiZEAL:
of course now
... No be me be se.un...you can go sharing or you can go acting, you can even do both...but know that other people have same right as you, [size=13pt]to share their BELIEF or disbelief...[/size]

winner01:
Are you sure about that?

I'm sure you can read, i've attached a picture below.

Maybe you should speak to se.un to include disbelief.

Lennycool:
Religious people should also work more and talk less.

Lennycool:

With the height religion has reached in Nigeria, we should all be living in a peaceful, crime free and healthy society..

Lennycool:
There should be less criminals in nigeria, since all major religion condemns stealing, same thing with corrupt politicians, these reprobates all cling to one religion or the other so where is all the crime coming from?

Lennycool:
Abi is it just the atheist alone that do all the stealing and magu magu??

Lennycool:
Nigeria should be one of the healthiest and richest nations in the world with the number of people that pray to God for prosperity.

Lennycool:
Our society would be corruption free if religion was really all that good but we find the opposite is the case. Even with all of Nigeria's staunch religiousness. We are still leaving in a poverty filled, crime infested society, with a really low life expectancy. .

Lennycool:
So what is religion really doing rather than acting as a drug to satiate the masses, like invisible and legal cocaine to the mind.

Lennycool:
Take a look at countries like Japan and China, or even the Scandinavian countries, these nations have either done away with religion or don't take it as seriously as we Africans do, yet they are the beacon of human prosperity.

Lennycool:
So your solution to Nigeria's woes is that all its citizens should abide by the Christian laws 100% without defaulting. Since this is your definition of God fearing people, but as we know of human nature this is impossible, no human can continuously keep most of the laws in the bible, hence your utopia cannot exist. Even with religion in the hearts of our people they still commit crimes. So what is the purpose of religion if only a few in our society can strictly adhere to it? Nigeria can only be saved through education and enlightenment and not religion.

winner01:
Do not give up on God because He wont give up on you. You can pm me too so we can discuss better.

4everGod:


Jeankrab I received your email and will attend to you very soon. God is not Partial to His Children. Stay strong. We will be taking shortly.

neocortex:
This is all gibberish,
There are more atheists in the world than gates and zuckerberg and
they do speak up against the unjust god doctrines.
Hypocrisy is when you spend your whole time telling people how great
your god is but you don't want to be questioned in return.

neocortex:
This is all gibberish, .

Lennycool:
The Op is wrong on many counts. You need to understand first that bill gates and mark zuckerberg are public figures with large interests in their various companies. If bill or mark for instance went about bashing religion I'm sure a lot of religious people would boycott their products, and I bet some Islamic countries would even ban it all together. These people are business men, they're too wise to do something as stupid as criticizing religion publicly. They simply don't shi.t were they eat. Besides none of them are from Nigeria, were pastors own jets and mansions thanks to offerings and donations while their congregation are starving and the same pastors will tell them to wait for their reward in heaven, in nigeria where up to 97% of the population is religious, where pastors conduct fake miracles live in other to gain more members ( in the u.s no popular preacher will ever conduct a live miracle because he knows just a little investigation by the press will crush his story), they don't live in a country that spends millions yearly sending religious people on pilgrimages that have no usefulness to the country, while there are hungry mouths to feed, while our infrastructure is collapsing. A country that holds religious leader almost as high as their God himself.
And yet you ask why we the atheist in nigeria continue to speak? why we refuse to be silent? why we detest religion? Open your eyes Nigeria is not being helped by religion, religion is a cancer on our nation, one that is getting out of hand fast. So to every atheist in Nigeria I urge you to stand firm even if you have to stand alone. No one will speak out but us. We cannot let Nigeria be clouded by religion forever. The road ahead is tough and filed with hate and persecution. But we must not and cannot give up!!

Chill dude lemme get something straight
So because they are pastors dey should not enjoy life ,have moni and be rich
So u r tellin me dat because I'm a pastor I should live in an uncompleted buildin nd be poor nd wretched
U are a discriminist
So pastors dnt lyk gud tin abi?
Dere is ntin wrong in dem having private jets infact its expected cause children of God r supposed to be blessed for d bible says we should enjoy life.
So Mr man ur point is invalid
I rest ma case

Lennycool:
So your solution to Nigeria's woes is that all its citizens should abide by the Christian laws 100% without defaulting. Since this is your definition of God fearing people, but as we know of human nature this is impossible, no human can continuously keep most of the laws in the bible, hence your utopia cannot exist. Even with religion in the hearts of our people they still commit crimes. So what is the purpose of religion if only a few in our society can strictly adhere to it? Nigeria can only be saved through education and enlightenment and not religion.

HCpaul:
The writeup is great but the intent is baseless.

Our outspokenness is necessarily not to vocally and intellectually fight and intimidate religious folks here on nairaland but to rescue this generation from what religion has done to people in ancient times (abject suffering). We are only trying to create a sane environment as it is not religion that we are actually against but literally any delusion that is disguised and camouflaged as been rational and sane. We must be the cure to this ignorance.

Whether atheism or agnosticism, the first independence from religion (delusion) is to be irreligious, and many scientists and sane personalities are victims.

Religion and the God ideology emerged as a cultural belief of different race and culture. Wars, killings and competitions are the major strength of these religions.
The Biblical stories are adventurous as they are prone to superstitions and mythical tales.
The Bible was written in the same way that other religious books were written. All I can see are attempts and they are really not true. Let all be discarded and not some because all religion share the same/a common bases.
Its either the god figure is imaginary or an object here on earth is used to represent one. The isalm of today are far more better, loyal and peaceful than the Christianity of the old testament but the Christians won't see all this. All I can see in the new Christianity are actually custodians rebranding and reorganizing the principles, standards and religious ethics of their primitive books. There are too many inaccuracies in the Bible and likewise other religious books.

HCpaul:
Everything in life is chronologically divided and it not beneficial to live an ancient but primitive life in a modern world where information is within your reach.

It's true that science itself maintain the agnostic stance while it is also unscientific for a scientist to be either theistic (religious) or atheistic.

It is the duty of everyone who belief and claim that angels, ghosts, spirits and god(s) exist to as well provide an hypothesis (apparently an evidence) to justify his/her claim but it is also not the duty and the responsibility of science to discredit such claims and beliefs.

This to me is the hidden limitation that science itself has. Richard Dawkins was able to figure out that by creating an institute where scientific research project and achievements won't be restricted by religious beliefs.

Religion is very good as it is the earliest and greatest invention of man in ancient times. As man primitive status began to evolve, some men began to invent other means to fully relate with knowledge and the universe.
They took up the responsibility of knowing the wonders of the universe and later realized that it was with their primitiveness that the complexity of the universe was magnified.

In other to be scientific, there may be an intelligent designer for the universe but the god(s) of any religion ain't meet the standard.

As good science scholars, the god ideology is alien to us.

Let's search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI).

Edek27:

Chill dude lemme get something straight
So because they are pastors dey should not enjoy life ,have moni and be rich
So u r tellin me dat because I'm a pastor I should live in an uncompleted buildin nd be poor nd wretched
U are a discriminist
So pastors dnt lyk gud tin abi?
Dere is ntin wrong in dem having private jets infact its expected cause children of God r supposed to be blessed for d bible says we should enjoy life.
So Mr man ur point is invalid
I rest ma case

Edek27:


See as u fall ma hand so u r comparing d Israelite(nt christians) to muslims
Let me ask u dis question wen did dey start referrin to children of God as christians is it old or new testament,before or after d birth nd death of Christ. Can u ansa me?


Nd how is God nt up to d "standard"
It seems to me dat while u r quite a rational man u were sadly fed with religious christianity wen u were young.
Infact I tink all atheists were unfortunately badly educated by fake christians

Edek27:

God knows dat we being human are prone to sin infact Paul says in book of Romans 5/6 about him wantin to be holy bt his flesh makes him sin so God understands dats y he sent Jesus so dat we may be saved
Wen we sin Jesus blood washes it makin us fit to approach God
Even if we sin again as long as we r remorseful God forgives no mata d sin be it rape,murder,etc d only sin wich God cnt 4gv is u sayin dat he doesn't exist (he is justified to do dis) afta all d proof around u dat he does so d only way is to renounce atheism nd go to him lest its too late
God bless you

HCpaul:


The term Christian and Christianity was originally coined by apostle Paul during the era of Jesus reign.

Christ was the major product of the old testament who also came from the tribe of Israel. God said in the Bible that Israel was his firstborn and that is also inclined to Jesus for been the firstborn of the creation of God.

You don't have to be ashame of your God characters in the Old testament by attempting to provide arguments stating imprecisely how the new (latest) testament doesn't correlate with the old testament.

Without the children of Israel in the Bible, the emergence of christ would never have been made possible.

You are even ignorant of the Bible.

I capitalize your shame....

S H A M E O N Y O U.

Charlesredif:
Religion began as an attempt by primitive people to explain the incomprehensible and often frightening events and phenomena that occurred in their lives.

The myths and superstitions that they developed were exploited by those who became the priests and shamans in later times in order to exert control over other tribal members.

It does not take a genius to understand the process that led to religious faith. Faith was fine as long as no-one understood the natural processes that drive our universe. To the irrational and ignorant, one explanation is as plausible as another.

That is why those with a higher degree of education, especially in science are less inclined to believe in magic or miracles. They have found a better explanation which is more intellectually satisfying.

No wonder ultra religious fanatics like the Taliban and Boko Haram want to restrict education and deny their followers the ability to question their assertions. Education is the enemy of religions.

Edek27:

Chill dude lemme get something straight
So because they are pastors dey should not enjoy life ,have moni and be rich
So u r tellin me dat because I'm a pastor I should live in an uncompleted buildin nd be poor nd wretched
U are a discriminist
So pastors dnt lyk gud tin abi?
Dere is ntin wrong in dem having private jets infact its expected cause children of God r supposed to be blessed for d bible says we should enjoy life.
So Mr man ur point is invalid
I rest ma case

sekundosekundo:


It wasn't easy but I thank God for Jesus. I have a documentary on that. One thing you should know is that Atheists are very intelligent and they read a lot especially all the religious books and as they study they focus more on the weak points of all this religious people to ridicule them.

4everGod:



Why are you repeatedly posting this nonsense everywhere as if you just had a eureka moment and trying to show you are intelligent when you judging by this your post you clearly are not.

Silence is golden you know! It does not expose your ignorance!