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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dolphinheart(m): 10:17am On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3:false teachings , prophecies shows jehovah, talking about his servant , jesus fulfilled those prophecies. jehovah was not talking about himself jehovah when talking about himself uses I , me , and other words to signify hims elf as only one person, jehovah is not 2 persons talking as one I person! The scriptures tells us that jehovah is the most high , jesus is sitting at the right hand of the most high, thus jesus is not the most high! 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:30am On Sep 18, 2016 |
JWs claim this verse is talking about GOD the Father: Rev. 1:8 "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." They also (falsely) claim that this verse is talking about GOD the Father: Rev. 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." (See v.12). Now, the Almighty is the Alpha and the Omega in Rev. 1:8. That same Alpha and Omega calls Himself the First and the Last in Rev. 22:13. It is now clear that the Almighty is the First and the Last. Now, JWs admit that the "First and the Last" in Rev. 2:8 is Jesus Christ. Does this not mean Jesus Christ is GOD? Can there be two "Firsts" and two "Lasts"? If there can be, then that exposes another false JW doctrine: that Jesus was created. How can GOD be the First and Jesus is the First too? Isn't this equality with GOD? Note: Jesus doesn't say He is the First to be resurrected to immortal. HE IS THE FIRST! 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by achorladey: 11:46am On Sep 18, 2016 |
A look at 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. From these scriptures DoctorAlien, Solite3, who do you think the JWs are knowing fully well in the course of this thread they've proved/provided he came in the flesh and he is God's Son? Please have this in mind as well 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by achorladey: 11:52am On Sep 18, 2016 |
I repeat, my hope again that in the quest for unravelling the mystery and comprehension behind the Godhead we do not make Jesus christ a Liar. If he is a liar, then he is a sinner, meaning the ransom is of no use. We should all think deeply about this. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:09pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Achorladey, Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD. Jesus Christ is GOD. The Bible says so. (Jn. 1:1) |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove:you have been exposed! Keep pouring out foolishness |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 12:29pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
You have made so many contradictory post on this thread. DoctorAlien: DoctorAlien: You have developed a mental condition even though it is unknown to you. It takes two people to have a mutual agreement. you need to see a doctor. Stop wasting peoples time on this thread. I think am done with your Craze. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:30pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove: you have been exposed! Keep pouring out foolishness |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:31pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove: you have been exposed! Keep pouring out foolishness |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 12:35pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:why are not open minded? Well did you read chapter 1:18 it was talking about Jesus death and resurrection to immortal life. "am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever". Why did you Dodge the question I asked? U have no ans to it? Jesus is an apostle of whom? Heb. 3:1 high priest serve as a mediator to God for humans. Jesus is a high priest to whom? Himself? You? Does that mean Jesus is in rank with his apostles? Let me tell you, Dan.7:13" I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed." the ancient of days Jehovah gave rulership to the son of man Jesus,to tell u they are two different people, is that not understandable enough? U claim JWs teach false doctrine, go n research and you will know Trinity is falsehood, from idolatry. U have being swimming in falsehood all your life. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:37pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
dolphinheart:you brought the issue of domain by bringing America and Nigeria into this issue. If the Father and Jesus are not one God, how come both is called The mighty God? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:41pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95, If Jesus Christ is the First to be resurrected to immortality, He is the last to do what? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:41pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
dolphinheart:genesis record God saying "let us" does that not tell you who God is? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 12:47pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: you didnt get, foolishness is when a person believe the Almighty God can still call another person " My God ". 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:47pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
[quote author=achorladey post=49463014] A look at 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. From these scriptures DoctorAlien, Solite3, who do you think the JWs are knowing fully well in the course of this thread they've proved/provided he came in the flesh and he is God's Son?Jehovah witness deny the Godhood of christ. That Jesus came in the flesh is not the subject of contention but his divinity! To be clear Jesus is God who came in the flesh! Please have this in mind as well 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.Jehovah witness deny the humanity of Christ hence they are operating under the spirit of the Antichrist. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 12:48pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: where exactly is the Father and Jesus called " one God " ? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 12:52pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: foolishness is when a person belive there is an ONLY true God , but still claim another person is also a true God . that is clear contradiction and a lie . and a disgrace to the word " ONLY" 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 12:52pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
achorladey:Christ is not a liar! Let me show who is the liar, The person who deny both the son and the Father! For the bible clearly state that Jesus is the only begotten son of God |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 12:54pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove: No where in the Bible does that exist. It is only found in the head of Trinitarians. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 1:00pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: Jesus is the only begotten son of himself ![]() Infact the same bible call Isaac the only begotten son of Abraham in Heb 11 vs 17 , how did Abraham beget Isaac. By sexual intercourse with His wife , can you tell me how Jesus was begotten ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: yamayama, your Almighty God was resurrected , I check the dictionary it says to be raised from the dead, haaaaa for your Almighty God to be resurrected it means he died . Almighty God can die ? Ths degree of foolishness am seeing on this thread is beyond repair 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:the first to be directly resurrected by Jehovah to immortality and the Last to be directly resurrected by Jehovah to immortality. All others will be done through Jesus. Answer my questions 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove: A man who only follows his instincts is like the beast of the field. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Your earthly and sensual! Seek God accept Christ now stop blaspheming what you don't know 2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 1:09pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95: So this is what Rev. 1:18 is talking about? ![]() So Jehovah is the first to do what and the Last to do what? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 1:10pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Stop exposing your limited knowledge of the Bible. The alpha and Omega is Yahweh. The almighty is not of the "root of david" According to the below verses. Don't read half and start shouting. The almighty is not the "morning star" You know that place is talking about two persons, the first person is Yahweh, the father then Jesus christ. And they both sent their Angels: see: Revelation 22:6-13 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. " (Revelation 22:6-13). ..........:.......... That ^ is talking about Yahweh that sends His angel After Yahweh sends his Angel, then Jesus sends his angel in subsequent vers 16 below in Revelation 22:16-17: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." (Revelation 22:16-17). .................. The almighty is not of the root of David. Yahweh is not a morning star. Mornings Stars are sons of Yahweh. Peace DoctorAlien: See below: truthislight: 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 1:16pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 1:22pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Most people read that Revelation 22 partly and drew wrong conclusion, they read the aspect that describes Yahweh as the Alpha and Omega and apply it to Jesus. this is one of the errors of many so called Christians today that are in a hurry to apply any scripture they sight to support Trinity. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 1:23pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: e.g your junior brother said " I am the only male in my class " , 2 days after he bring home a male friend and to your suprise he is in your brothers class. Haha ! In this scenario the guy lied that he is the only male . its clear Same with Jesus saying His Father is the only True God , for Jesus to be the true God too , he has lied and disgraced the word ONLY . i know you get what am sayimg , you are just banned from using your brain . But the epistle you write above holds no water and its a mere twisted story from you , until Jesus say if your eyes make you stumble , remove it and you people not even one as remove his eyes so far , why ? Your brain tells you its not possible , that brain is the one I want you to use now 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 1:25pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: You have now seen that Yahweh is also coming, that the Rev 1 was talking interchangeably about Jesus and Yahweh. Yahweh is also coming, hence your Delusion should go to rest now. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 1:45pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95:Jesus is God the bible proves it. He is the Almighty God The beginning and the ending Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 2:00pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:I won't answer you until u answer mine. I have been answering ur questions but u refused to mine. U don't have answers to them? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 2:06pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
truthislight:yes Yahweh is coming because Jesus is Yahweh |
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