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Nixon55:
For most folks betting their life on manual transmission cars you might want to read the article below because those manual cars are really going into extinction on luxury cars.



Years ago, it was easy to find a wide range of luxury cars with manual transmissions, as they were offered by virtually every manufacturer -- from BMW and Audi to Lexus and Mercedes-Benz. But that's no longer the case: If you're interested in buying a luxury car with a stick shift, you've probably already figured out that there aren't many options left. In fact, you might be wondering if there are any at all. We did a little research, and here's what we discovered.

No More Manuals

A few high-end car brands are out of the manual transmission game entirely. Such brands include Acura, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lexus, Lincoln and Volvo. If you want three pedals in your next luxury car, you'll want to forego visiting one of those brands' dealerships.

Down to One

A few luxury automakers are down to just one stick shift model in their entire product lineup. In the world of Mercedes-Benz, for instance, you can only get a stick shift in the base-level SLK250 roadster. To get an Infiniti with a manual transmission, you have to opt for the Q60S Coupe -- and there's some chance that model won't retain its manual when it's redesigned next year. Finally, Cadillac's sole manual transmission is offered in the ATS, while Buick only offers a stick shift in front-wheel-drive versions of its sporty Regal GS.

The Last Stick Shifts Standing

Fortunately for drivers who like to row their own gears, a few other luxury brands still offer a wider variety of manual transmission models.

Despite Porsche's lightning-quick dual-clutch PDK automatic, for instance, the famed German sports car manufacturer still offers three pedals in each of its sports cars: the Boxster, the Cayman and the 911. Manual transmissions are also still widely available in the BMW lineup, as the sporty luxury brand offers the feature in most versions of its Z4 roadster, 2 Series, 3 Series sedan and 4 Series coupe -- including the high-performance M3 and M4. It's the same story over at MINI, where you can get a stick shift with nearly all the automaker's premium hatchbacks. And Audi still offers three pedals in the A4 and A5, along with their sporty S4 and S5 counterparts.

Our Take

These days, "luxury car" seems synonymous with "automatic transmission" -- and given the level of refinement (and quick-shifting capabilities) of today's automatic gearboxes, it's easy to see why.

Still, if you're one of the few drivers out there looking for three pedals in your next luxury car, there are still a few available options to choose from.

Our only advice: Be prepared for a slightly lower resale value, as luxury cars with automatic transmissions tend to be in higher demand than stick-shift models.


http://www.autotrader.com/car-shopping/can-you-still-get-a-luxury-car-with-a-manual-transmission-246971

Manual transmissions are the most common type outside North America and Australia. They are cheaper, lighter, usually give better performance, but the newest automatic transmissions, and CVTs give better fuel economy.[5][6] It is customary for new drivers to learn, and be tested, on a car with a manual gear change. In Malaysia and Denmark all cars used for testing (and because of that, virtually all those used for instruction as well) have a manual transmission. In Japan, the Philippines, Germany, Poland, Italy, Israel, the Netherlands, Belgium, New Zealand, Austria, Bulgaria, the UK,[7] Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, France, Spain, Switzerland, the Australian states of Victoria,[8] Western Australia and Queensland, Finland, Latvia,[9] Lithuania and the Czech Republic, a test pass using an automatic car does not entitle the driver to use a manual car on the public road; a test with a manual car is required.[citation needed] Manual transmissions are much more common than automatic transmissions in Asia, Africa, South America and Europe.

Ikenna351:
It's a good thing to choose and decide what you want or prefer this to that. Naturally, man tends to move towards what is beneficial or pleasurable to him, even though some beliefs of his might hold him back, especially a common belief like conformity. It's not a matter of why others won't come over to this side you preferred or made sense to you, it should be "It make sense to me and must not make sense to everyone." Realities and paths are different.

Peugeot 208 GTi (with about 210 hp) & Peugeot 308 GTi (with 270 hp) all 2016 productions, are all highest trims of those models. Both cars are produced and sold only in 6-speed manual transmissions, no automatic options. Automatic transmissions are sold with other trims with lesser powers. All other Peugeot models produced as of last week come in both manual and automatic gearboxes. The Peugeot GTis are designed for enthusiasts, followed by the GT & GT Line models that have manual & auto options. Majority of Europeans drive manuals, same way majority of cars in Europe are diesels. Percentages of manual and diesel users in Europe are more than automatics and petrol engine users. The point of this paragraph is to explain what I said earlier about how everything that make sense to you can't make sense to everyone because paths and realities are different.

Before vehicles with automatic transmissions started entering Nigeria from North America, Lagos existed and still do. Road traffic in Lagos was almost the same as of that time as it is now (may not be same percentage though). Men and women driving in Lagos in those years didn't suffer from Arthritis or leg pain. They weren't complaining, even though the clutch pedals back then were harder to depress, compared to the soft clutch systems in newer cars. Its always about beliefs.

About your dad's leg pain, some doctors would advice their patients with your dads condition different from advice given by your dads doctor. Asking one not to exercise his leg for some belief systems could end up seizing up that leg. Words don't teach. Only experience teaches. Gently ask your dad why he insisted on still using that led leg to drive against advice from loved ones. Its his body. He feels it more than external conditions like the doctors and every other person outside his body.

People don't exercise these days with a lot of excuses, yet expect every part of their bodies to function as supposed to when put into use. Aside that. Not many knows how to adjust a seat on stick cars while driving. Your thighs are meant to rest on the seat, meaning the lower part of the seat is meant to be raised, so that your legs don't hang without resting on seat. Some who couldn't adjust their seats but understood the trick would place small pillow on the seat and sit on the pillow. How high your legs go up to depress pedals determines how uncomfortable you will become after awhile. Knowing how to drive doesn't stop in controlling the steering wheel. Knowing how to drive means absence of resistance to allow yourself to be comfortable behind the wheel and trust your guts & impulses flowing through you. So getting comfortable on drivers seat is one of them. Driving is meant to be fun, not some schedules.

Clutch system set up in 1998 vehicle is no longer the same set up in 2015 or 2016 vehicle manual clutch set up. Similar components but different designs. The newer cars clutches are so soft that no pressure is required to depress the clutch pedals anymore, such that your left leg will feel nothing.

Love your automatic or love your manual. They both exist to serve different purposes and for everyone on different paths.

Have fun.

Ikenna, Lion King.

Wow, Ikenna, such an insightful comment!!!

You're so right. Before cars with automatic transmission came into Nigeria, people were driving their manual cars without any hassles, or complaints. Automatic transmission has, sort of made things slightly easier, no?

About my dad's leg pain, it was a while back, but he's great now. Till today, he still drives his manual car. He says it's compact, easier to maneuver. In his words, "If you can't drive a stick shift, you're not a real driver". All his cars have been manual. He says auto is boring.

"Not many knows how to adjust a seat on stick cars while driving. Your thighs are meant to rest on the seat, meaning the lower part of the seat is meant to be raised, so that your legs don't hang without resting on seat. Some who couldn't adjust their seats but understood the trick would place small pillow on the seat and sit on the pillow. How high your legs go up to depress pedals determines how uncomfortable you will become after awhile. Knowing how to drive doesn't stop in controlling the steering wheel. Knowing how to drive means absence of resistance to allow yourself to be comfortable behind the wheel and trust your guts & impulses flowing through you. So getting comfortable on drivers seat is one of them. Driving is meant to be fun, not some schedules."

You did raise a valid point there... Knowing how to drive isn't just about controlling the steering wheel.

Thanks for your contribution. I've learnt something new today.

Ikenna351:
It's a good thing to choose and decide what you want or prefer this to that. Naturally, man tends to move towards what is beneficial or pleasurable to him, even though some beliefs of his might hold him back, especially a common belief like conformity. It's not a matter of why others won't come over to this side you preferred or made sense to you, it should be "It make sense to me and must not make sense to everyone." Realities and paths are different.

Peugeot 208 GTi (with about 210 hp) & Peugeot 308 GTi (with 270 hp) all 2016 productions, are all highest trims of those models. Both cars are produced and sold only in 6-speed manual transmissions, no automatic options. Automatic transmissions are sold with other trims with lesser powers. All other Peugeot models produced as of last week come in both manual and automatic gearboxes. The Peugeot GTis are designed for enthusiasts, followed by the GT & GT Line models that have manual & auto options. Majority of Europeans drive manuals, same way majority of cars in Europe are diesels. Percentages of manual and diesel users in Europe are more than automatics and petrol engine users. The point of this paragraph is to explain what I said earlier about how everything that make sense to you can't make sense to everyone because paths and realities are different.

Before vehicles with automatic transmissions started entering Nigeria from North America, Lagos existed and still do. Road traffic in Lagos was almost the same as of that time as it is now (may not be same percentage though). Men and women driving in Lagos in those years didn't suffer from Arthritis or leg pain. They weren't complaining, even though the clutch pedals back then were harder to depress, compared to the soft clutch systems in newer cars. Its always about beliefs.

About your dad's leg pain, some doctors would advice their patients with your dads condition different from advice given by your dads doctor. Asking one not to exercise his leg for some belief systems could end up seizing up that leg. Words don't teach. Only experience teaches. Gently ask your dad why he insisted on still using that led leg to drive against advice from loved ones. Its his body. He feels it more than external conditions like the doctors and every other person outside his body.

People don't exercise these days with a lot of excuses, yet expect every part of their bodies to function as supposed to when put into use. Aside that. Not many knows how to adjust a seat on stick cars while driving. Your thighs are meant to rest on the seat, meaning the lower part of the seat is meant to be raised, so that your legs don't hang without resting on seat. Some who couldn't adjust their seats but understood the trick would place small pillow on the seat and sit on the pillow. How high your legs go up to depress pedals determines how uncomfortable you will become after awhile. Knowing how to drive doesn't stop in controlling the steering wheel. Knowing how to drive means absence of resistance to allow yourself to be comfortable behind the wheel and trust your guts & impulses flowing through you. So getting comfortable on drivers seat is one of them. Driving is meant to be fun, not some schedules.

Clutch system set up in 1998 vehicle is no longer the same set up in 2015 or 2016 vehicle manual clutch set up. Similar components but different designs. The newer cars clutches are so soft that no pressure is required to depress the clutch pedals anymore, such that your left leg will feel nothing.

Love your automatic or love your manual. They both exist to serve different purposes and for everyone on different paths.

Have fun.

Ikenna, Lion King.

LadyMercedes:
Wow, Ikenna, such an insightful comment!!!

You're so right. Before cars with automatic transmission came into Nigeria, people were driving their manual cars without any hassles, or complaints. Automatic transmission has, sort of made things slightly easier, no?

About my dad's leg pain, it was a while back, but he's great now. Till today, he still drives his manual car. He says it's compact, easier to maneuver. In his words, "If you can't drive a stick shift, you're not a real driver". All his cars have been manual. He says auto is boring.

"Not many knows how to adjust a seat on stick cars while driving. Your thighs are meant to rest on the seat, meaning the lower part of the seat is meant to be raised, so that your legs don't hang without resting on seat. Some who couldn't adjust their seats but understood the trick would place small pillow on the seat and sit on the pillow. How high your legs go up to depress pedals determines how uncomfortable you will become after awhile. Knowing how to drive doesn't stop in controlling the steering wheel. Knowing how to drive means absence of resistance to allow yourself to be comfortable behind the wheel and trust your guts & impulses flowing through you. So getting comfortable on drivers seat is one of them. Driving is meant to be fun, not some schedules."

You did raise a valid point there... Knowing how to drive isn't just about controlling the steering wheel.

Thanks for your contribution. I've learnt something new today.

uboma:
You are right.

All cars used for sports racing have manual sticks.

There is no way car manufacturers will phase out cars with manual sticks.

Ikenna351:
It's a good thing to choose and decide what you want or prefer this to that. Naturally, man tends to move towards what is beneficial or pleasurable to him, even though some beliefs of his might hold him back, especially a common belief like conformity. It's not a matter of why others won't come over to this side you preferred or made sense to you, it should be "It make sense to me and must not make sense to everyone." Realities and paths are different.

Peugeot 208 GTi (with about 210 hp) & Peugeot 308 GTi (with 270 hp) all 2016 productions, are all highest trims of those models. Both cars are produced and sold only in 6-speed manual transmissions, no automatic options. Automatic transmissions are sold with other trims with lesser powers. All other Peugeot models produced as of last week come in both manual and automatic gearboxes. The Peugeot GTis are designed for enthusiasts, followed by the GT & GT Line models that have manual & auto options. Majority of Europeans drive manuals, same way majority of cars in Europe are diesels. Percentages of manual and diesel users in Europe are more than automatics and petrol engine users. The point of this paragraph is to explain what I said earlier about how everything that make sense to you can't make sense to everyone because paths and realities are different.

Before vehicles with automatic transmissions started entering Nigeria from North America, Lagos existed and still do. Road traffic in Lagos was almost the same as of that time as it is now (may not be same percentage though). Men and women driving in Lagos in those years didn't suffer from Arthritis or leg pain. They weren't complaining, even though the clutch pedals back then were harder to depress, compared to the soft clutch systems in newer cars. Its always about beliefs.

About your dad's leg pain, some doctors would advice their patients with your dads condition different from advice given by your dads doctor. Asking one not to exercise his leg for some belief systems could end up seizing up that leg. Words don't teach. Only experience teaches. Gently ask your dad why he insisted on still using that led leg to drive against advice from loved ones. Its his body. He feels it more than external conditions like the doctors and every other person outside his body.

People don't exercise these days with a lot of excuses, yet expect every part of their bodies to function as supposed to when put into use. Aside that. Not many knows how to adjust a seat on stick cars while driving. Your thighs are meant to rest on the seat, meaning the lower part of the seat is meant to be raised, so that your legs don't hang without resting on seat. Some who couldn't adjust their seats but understood the trick would place small pillow on the seat and sit on the pillow. How high your legs go up to depress pedals determines how uncomfortable you will become after awhile. Knowing how to drive doesn't stop in controlling the steering wheel. Knowing how to drive means absence of resistance to allow yourself to be comfortable behind the wheel and trust your guts & impulses flowing through you. So getting comfortable on drivers seat is one of them. Driving is meant to be fun, not some schedules.

Clutch system set up in 1998 vehicle is no longer the same set up in 2015 or 2016 vehicle manual clutch set up. Similar components but different designs. The newer cars clutches are so soft that no pressure is required to depress the clutch pedals anymore, such that your left leg will feel nothing.

Love your automatic or love your manual. They both exist to serve different purposes and for everyone on different paths.

Have fun.

Ikenna, Lion King.

MosesNG:
U brought out the Lion King.