corruption everywhere

nonsense........ clueless entity

afroniger:


For the first time I must say that I am disappointed in a comment coming from you. When you say 'fair and square' you are definitely being disingenuous. Abraham isn't the only person that contested the result (infact he initially congratulated Aketi), but Oke and Boroffice did too. You should be more concerned about whether or not the allegation of the doctored list is true, or not. Let's even forget about Abraham for now. Do you honestly in your heart believe that it would be fair to Oke and Boroffice to have been cheated the way they apparently and evidently were by the changed and doctored list? Have a conscience please.

Relax & take a fresh breath... The delegate list that was used;did it not originate from their party HQ? I also want you to truthfully ask yourself if it were possible for Tinubu to sit back and watch his candidate taken out so cheaply...

What I strongly believe happened was that the delegates they had all sown up were somehow turned with "rewards" they found hard to resist...

As for conscience, there is nothing out of order there, most times when people come up short, they usually find sentiments to attach to it... it's just human nature.

afroniger:


For the first time I must say that I am disappointed in a comment coming from you. When you say 'fair and square' you are definitely being disingenuous. Abraham isn't the only person that contested the result (infact he initially congratulated Aketi), but Oke and Boroffice did too. You should be more concerned about whether or not the allegation of the doctored list is true, or not. Let's even forget about Abraham for now. Do you honestly in your heart believe that it would be fair to Oke and Boroffice to have been cheated the way they apparently and evidently were by the changed and doctored list? Have a conscience please.

Back the history lane, Tinubu hates anything primaries. (Until recently)

Reason he prefer installing his own candidate to avoid this type of situation.

Tinubu wants to have his way by all means.

modath:


Relax & take a fresh breath... The delegate list that was used;did it not originate from their party HQ? I also want you to truthfully ask yourself if it were possible for Tinubu to sit back and watch his candidate taken out so cheaply...

What I strongly believe happened was that the delegates they had all sown up were somehow turned with "rewards" they found hard to resist...

As for conscience, there is nothing out of order there, most times when people come up short, they usually find sentiments to attach to it... it's just human nature.

So the endorsement given to akeredolu by the the presidency is good for the party. Akeredolu cried foul when Tinubu endorsed Abraham, he granted interviews in the dailies vehemently condemning the action. Now powerful APC chieftains close to the presidency have doctored the delegates list to favor him, he now thinks he's smarter.

Bari22:
Although i'am an apc member but not everything must be in favour of tinubu. Cancellation of this primary election will result in dividing the apc supporters, anti party activities there by making sure apc has failed woefully in that state.

Nonsense!

You did not address the crux of the matter - Was the primary election flawed or not? If Yes, what do you suggest??

Bari22:
Although i'am an apc member but not everything must be in favour of tinubu. Cancellation of this primary election will result in dividing the apc supporters, anti party activities there by making sure apc has failed woefully in that state.

When a region SW deliberately sold their rights to a one mafia family.

modath:



Nope, he doesn't, it's the people of Ondo... Tinubu and Abraham lost this fair and square, they probably thought they had the delegates all figured out but the numbers eventually didn't add up..


They should learn to gracefully accept defeat and move on.... Insisting on winning every battle isn't the way to go..

Madam, are you sure the allegations are false? You come across as someone who's not given to tissues but facts. I suppose you should be objective in your judgment. I expected you to say ''If the allegations were true, then there should be a rerun''. That's what's expected of a clear-headed and just mind.

Bari22:
Although i'am an apc member but not everything must be in favour of tinubu. Cancellation of this primary election will result in dividing the apc supporters, anti party activities there by making sure apc has failed woefully in that state.

Who told you its Tinubu thats causing the wahala una can get mouth diarrhea

fyneguy:


Madam, are you sure the allegations are false? You come across as someone who's not given to tissues but facts. I suppose you should be objective in your judgment. I expected you to say ''If the allegations were true, then there should be a rerun''. That's what's expected of a clear-headed and just mind.

Please tell them ooooo, they will be sitting down in their bedroom and just run their bacteria infected mouth

bejeiodus:
Mo, I don't see how the APC will win this election with the incipient crisis in the party.
Tinubu needs to be told that he can't have his way all the time. He said in his response to Dr Abayomi's letter that he has lost and won elections and have learnt great lessons from the experience. Why then is it hard to see this as one of the setbacks in his political life?

Mo, the truth of the matter is that some governors are tired of Tinubu's overbearing influence in the Southwest. My governor, Ibikunle Amosun, is one of such governors. He and Tinubu are already engaged in a cold war. That war will reach a climax in 2019 when Tinubu will seek to impose Olamilekan Adeola, aka Yayi, on the state chapter of the APC.

Tinubu has done a lot for the APC no doubt, but he has also been greatly rewarded for his sacrifices for the party. As a veteran of many political battles, he ought to know that when you lose your lieutenants you become vulnerable to defeat.

This is how you people peddle lies everywhere. The same Amosun appealed to Tinubu to dissuade Yayi from contesting in Ogun State in 2015 before he was drafted to Lagos. If Tinubu did not do it, Yayi would have been a Senator from Ogun State. Now, you are talking about the overbearing influence of Tinubu. Same Tinubu who wanted Akume George for Senate Presidency but El Rufai and some northern governors persuaded him to support Ahmed Lawan, and he did.

If Amosun tries to impose a successor in 2019, would you say he is overbearing?

modath:


Relax & take a fresh breath... The delegate list that was used;did it not originate from their party HQ? I also want you to truthfully ask yourself if it were possible for Tinubu to sit back and watch his candidate taken out so cheaply...

What I strongly believe happened was that the delegates they had all sown up were somehow turned with "rewards" they found hard to resist...

As for conscience, there is nothing out of order there, most times when people come up short, they usually find sentiments to attach to it... it's just human nature.

Crap! Sorry but you've obviously lost your sense of objectivity in this case. The protesting aspirants said they were given a copy of the original list of delegates at a meeting with the party leadership in Abuja, only for a separate (doctored) list of delegates to have resurfaced on the day of the election, and you think that should be swept under the carpet because (perhaps) your preferred candidate emerged? This is about fairness for goodness sake. Remove sentiments for a minute if you can and see the crux of the matter. In saner climes we wouldn't even be having this discussion because it's a no-brainer that such an election won't stand.

I don't agreed the list was doctored, had it been it was, the venue would have been disrupted by the substituted delegates, this is a case of ego, because of the Aketi rift with Jagaban he was underrated, but they forgot he has a robust team and structures on ground having contested once in a general election in 2012, he has representatives across the state,

the whole story of the list is as follow:

we had a congress across the state in 2014 where the delegates were elected, during the congress some wards and local government had issues, my ward inclusive, after the congress the list of the elected delegates was sent to Abuja leaving the areas with issues, after the congress appeal and reconciliation committee was set up and they sit and address the problem in the trouble areas, during the panel sit the warring groups agreed with the panel to share the delegates according to their capacity, so it was shared in some area it was 50-50 while in some area it was 60-40, after the sitting the panel got the list of delegates from the affected ward and local government and sent it to Abuja, so the harmonized delegate list was used during the 2014 primary election which I participated.

for this governorship primary, the first list that was sent was the first list of the delegates omitting the areas where the congress was disrupted and their attention of Abuja was drawn to the mistake, it cause a lot of uproar in the state and they sent a complete list on Friday, a day to the primary election so all stakeholders check and confirm it ok for the election.

I am one of the APC stakeholder in Ondo State I participated in the primary election in 2014 as an House of representative aspirant.

pafygodo:
Once it's established that the delegates list was doctored, for transparency sake, the primary election ought to be canceled.
Why do people always mention Tinubu's name? His purported endorsed candidate initially congratulated Akeredolu before he found out the process was fraudulent.
The question is 'Who doctored the delegates list?'.

Most Nigerians are bad losers.

bejeiodus:
I am not from Ondo state and I don't understand their local politics. But take this from me, if the APC annuls Akeredolu's election, it is going to cause a great schism in the party which will have an adverse effect on their performance in the forthcoming gubernatorial election in the state. No matter how you try to spin it, PDP stands to profit a lot from any squabble this subterfuge act may bring.

Absolutely.

Infact, the panel should have recommended a disciplinary action against culprits. If any of the aspirants was found guilty, he should be disqualified!

We won't get it right in this country, if we keep glossing over illegalities.

bejeiodus:
Mo, I don't see how the APC will win this election with the incipient crisis in the party.
Tinubu needs to be told that he can't have his way all the time. He said in his response to Dr Abayomi's letter that he has lost and won elections and have learnt great lessons from the experience. Why then is it hard to see this as one of the setbacks in his political life?

Mo, the truth of the matter is that some governors are tired of Tinubu's overbearing influence in the Southwest. My governor, Ibikunle Amosun, is one of such governors. He and Tinubu are already engaged in a cold war. That war will reach a climax in 2019 when Tinubu will seek to impose Olamilekan Adeola, aka Yayi, on the state chapter of the APC.

Tinubu has done a lot for the APC no doubt, but he has also been greatly rewarded for his sacrifices for the party. As a veteran of many political battles, he ought to know that when you lose your lieutenants you become vulnerable to defeat.

If I'm not mistaken, this Yayi guy is currently a senator representing Lagos West right? How come same person wants to come forward as a gubernatorial candidate in Ogun state. Can one claim two states at a time in Nigeria especially as both positions-Senator and Governor are elective and not by appointment? Enlighten me on this please.

Politics is all about winning and losing and not about winning at all time. In ondo case, somebody somewhere wants to impose his own candidate at all cost which is not possible at all time, especially in places like ondo and ekiti.

There is already confusion in the camp of the APC in Ondo state. I don't see APC winning this election anymore..they shouldn't have cancelled the primaries..it's already evident PDP has won in Ondo state.

tojujack:
wow!!

na ambulance u b

modath:



Nope, he doesn't, it's the people of Ondo... Tinubu and Abraham lost this fair and square, they probably thought they had the delegates all figured out but the numbers eventually didn't add up..


They should learn to gracefully accept defeat and move on.... Insisting on winning every battle isn't the way to go..

I disagree with you on this. Abraham was the last of the trios to contest the result of the "staged" election. In fact, he had already congratulated Aketi and assured him of his support before the issue of doctored delegate list came up. Why talking ill of Tinubu when his candidate was the last to even contest the result of election? What about Borroffice and Olusola Oke that from the outset of the declaration, they rejected the result? We should stop joining others in maligning this man

Akeredolu is not even marketable.

Sheggy13:

If I'm not mistaken, this Yayi guy is currently a senator representing Lagos West right? How come same person wants to come forward as a gubernatorial candidate in Ogun state. Can one claim two states at a time in Nigeria especially as both positions-Senator and Governor are elective and not by appointment? Enlighten me on this please.

He is not claiming two states. He is from Ogun state but he is representing Lagos West in the Red Chamber because has lived most of his life in Lagos. Lagos is a cosmopolitan state and that reflects in its politics. Maybe you are not aware, Lagos has three Easterners, (Igbos) representing it in the House of Representatives. That doesn't make them Lagosians.
It is a pity that our democracy is still inchoate. One should be able to become the governor of the state one resides regardless of whether one is from that state or not.

To buttress my point, James Faleke represents Lagos in the House of Representatives, but he is from Kogi state. He is at the moment trying to become the governor of Kogi state.

fyneguy:


This is how you people peddle lies everywhere. The same Amosun appealed to Tinubu to dissuade Yayi from contesting in Ogun State in 2015 before he was drafted to Lagos. If Tinubu did not do it, Yayi would have been a Senator from Ogun State. Now, you are talking about the overbearing influence of Tinubu. Same Tinubu who wanted Akume George for Senate Presidency but El Rufai and some northern governors persuaded him to support Ahmed Lawan, and he did.

If Amosun tries to impose a successor in 2019, would you say he is overbearing?

Every governor. wants to choose his successor. That is the crux of the war between Tinubu and Amosun. By the way, who told you Amosun appealed to Tinubu to dissuade Yayi from contesting in Ogun state in 2015? Yayi knew it was a futile attempt as Tinubu's ally, Osoba, had been forced to leave the party because of Amosun's antics. He would not have won the primary election not to talk of being on the ballot paper.
Since Tinubu has been choosing his successors in Lagos, Amosun and other departing governors want to be left alone to make that choice too.

I still wonder hw Aketi that couldn't win his home town in 2012 was able to clinch d ticket again... I still remember LP/mimiko rolling out drums immediately Akeredolu was declared APC flag bearer back in 2012. To say d truth APC cannot win Ondo with Akeredolu....that list was surely doctored!

modath:



Nope, he doesn't, it's the people of Ondo... Tinubu and Abraham lost this fair and square, they probably thought they had the delegates all figured out but the numbers eventually didn't add up..


They should learn to gracefully accept defeat and move on.... Insisting on winning every battle isn't the way to go..

Is Abraham the only one that refuse to accept the result of the election?

bejeiodus:
Mo, I don't see how the APC will win this election with the incipient crisis in the party.
Tinubu needs to be told that he can't have his way all the time. He said in his response to Dr Abayomi's letter that he has lost and won elections and have learnt great lessons from the experience. Why then is it hard to see this as one of the setbacks in his political life?

Mo, the truth of the matter is that some governors are tired of Tinubu's overbearing influence in the Southwest. My governor, Ibikunle Amosun, is one of such governors. He and Tinubu are already engaged in a cold war. That war will reach a climax in 2019 when Tinubu will seek to impose Olamilekan Adeola, aka Yayi, on the state chapter of the APC.

Tinubu has done a lot for the APC no doubt, but he has also been greatly rewarded for his sacrifices for the party. As a veteran of many political battles, he ought to know that when you lose your lieutenants you become vulnerable to defeat.

Bros why do u like bringing Tinubu into this always. Is Abraham the only candidate that petitioned the appeal panel? As a matter of fact he had already accepted defeat b4 realising there is more to the election.. .

modath:



Nope, he doesn't, it's the people of Ondo... Tinubu and Abraham lost this fair and square, they probably thought they had the delegates all figured out but the numbers eventually didn't add up..


They should learn to gracefully accept defeat and move on.... Insisting on winning every battle isn't the way to go..

Don't talk about what you don't know,an election that allowed road side food vendor to serve as delegate ,you called that credible election because you hate Tinubu.
Tinubu is not an issue in this case,Aketi couldn't have emerged the winner if credible primary election was conducted,he has no political structure in Ondo State.

Sheggy13:

If I'm not mistaken, this Yayi guy is currently a senator representing Lagos West right? How come same person wants to come forward as a gubernatorial candidate in Ogun state. Can one claim two states at a time in Nigeria especially as both positions-Senator and Governor are elective and not by appointment? Enlighten me on this please.

dont u kno every afonja weda from osun ondo ogun. all re from lagos. dont u see it in nairaland.


yayi contested 2015 ogun. den drafted to lagos..

Chiefobdk1:



dont u kno every afonja weda from osun ondo ogun. all re from lagos. dont u see it in nairaland.


yayi contested 2015 ogun. den drafted to lagos..

Albino osu, whats your own? You should be worried about your dungeon and dead region.