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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 4:08pm On Oct 10, 2016
chrisooblog:


p.s hope we play our matches in PH and uyo and not calabar o!

Godwin Akpabio International Stadium, Uyo will hold our Home Match against the Algeria. It's official!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 4:38pm On Oct 10, 2016
A formidable Super Eagles Squad is nearly ready!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:39pm On Oct 10, 2016
lexyman:


You are correct about the analysis you gave but , I think Ogeyi Onazi lead to that pressure , he was enjoying the party in front (tiki-takes ) between Iwobi , iheanacho and Mikel , he came to join them and he exposed the back line to unecessary pressure , I think Onazi should be discipline and must play to instructions . As time goes on the team will get better , Leon will join them , I really pity oboabona , his days are numbered .

Well, I am not only talking about that, I am talking about credible replacements for Onazi and Mikel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:47pm On Oct 10, 2016
Oasis007:
A formidable Super Eagles Squad is nearly ready!
See all of their boots... coloured and technical. The black en white days are relegated grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:49pm On Oct 10, 2016
How I wish
Dele Alli, Jordan Ibe, Sheyi Ojo and the anonymous lot that wants to rep the overhyped England just come to sense and Rep Nigeria where home truly is.


If these guys listed above get 30+ caps for England, I'll diff my hat for them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:03pm On Oct 10, 2016
chrisooblog:
you are too kind boss cool

how do you reckon we line out against the algerians?


Hard to tell because I did not watch the game between Algeria and Cameroon. With the kind of offensive players, I think we go for a tight midfield set up so we have cover to stop their skillful offensive players. If the Zambians could find their way into our team, then the Algerians will prove difficult.

With Mikel, Onazi and Esiti, we looked more stable under pressure.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:05pm On Oct 10, 2016
This Era of the Super Eagles will make a good inspirational movie in the long run... grin

I have always dreamed the coming of another golden generation.... And we're close to it. We are close to its full dawn... smiley

Oasis007:
A formidable Super Eagles Squad is nearly ready!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 5:08pm On Oct 10, 2016
daveP:
How I wish
Dele Alli, Jordan Ibe, Sheri Ojo and the anonymous lot that wants to rep the overhyped England just come to sense and Rep Nigeria where home truly is.


If these guys listed above get 30+ caps for England, I'll diff my hat for them.
dele Alli will get more than 30 caps
d guy is good

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:09pm On Oct 10, 2016
Dele Alli will surpass 30caps... #surebanker

daveP:
How I wish
Dele Alli, Jordan Ibe, Sheri Ojo and the anonymous lot that wants to rep the overhyped England just come to sense and Rep Nigeria where home truly is.


If these guys listed above get 30+ caps for England, I'll diff my hat for them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:13pm On Oct 10, 2016
jotey:
dele Alli will get more than 30 caps
d guy is good
I pray the new Manager sees that in desperate times.


England's story of use and dump is very must heard everywhere. When selection comes for world Cup you'll know why Dele should Ave considered Nig.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:19pm On Oct 10, 2016
princesuko:


That still doesn't mean we shoe-horn him into the wings when we have Better Options.

1. If Ighalo is Available he Starts though his Link-up play is Top Notch.
2. Any of The Moses Will do.
3. I dont see Mikel getting benched but he isnt getting required minutes to stay match fit for Club.
4. Onazi has Merrited a starting Place.
5. Ndidi haven't seen much of him apart from that Game yesterday so can't say much.
6. Wouldn't bench Ikeme even if Enyeama was available on Current Form.


i disagree with your last sentence. I will start Enyeama any day any time, why? It's not just about the shot-stopping abilities, rather the way he coordniates the defence. Ikeme was not instructing anybody at all, that was why most times our full backs were unaware, as a GK you shout at your defenders, make them aware of the opposing players presence and I would fancy Enyeama to even keep out that goal they scored sef, so Enyeama anyday of the week abeg. Not to mention that he is our captain afterall.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:29pm On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


As long as Mikel trains everyday with his club, he is good to go. What we are talking about is relying more on moving the ball with passes. Onazi and Mikel can play comfortably in the middle. Iwobi, Iheanacho and Nwobodo can form a deadly forward passing trident behind who ever strikes.

It is a good option. It would have worked in the game yesterday where we needed to pass more that run with the ball. If we are playing a possession style, Nwobodo is more suited. If we want to run at the full backs, V. Moses, S. Moses and Musa suits more.

I don't know why you are saying this thing since morning. Even Barca that plays such a formation plays also with a true winger. Victor Moses plays in an identical fashion with Neymar and you have to agree that Barca won't be that great without a Neymar-style player. There was Pedro before him and Sanchez before that, so we need Victor Moses there. You don't need your 5 forward players to be possession oriented, you need a direct route and only a direct player can create that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:29pm On Oct 10, 2016
Goal.com very funny. we need to settle this attack

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:55pm On Oct 10, 2016
Mickael2:


I don't know why you are saying this thing since morning. Even Barca that plays such a formation plays also with a true winger. Victor Moses plays in an identical fashion with Neymar and you have to agree that Barca won't be that great without a Neymar-style player. There was Pedro before him and Sanchez before that, so we need Victor Moses there. You don't need your 5 forward players to be possession oriented, you need a direct route and only a direct player can create that

I pointed out when Iniesta plays on the wing. Same with Silva. When you play Neymar in the team, he is not in a midfield set up but a forward set up. That is a 4-3-3. Not a compact 4-5-1 formation. Iwobi plays more of a midfield game than an all out winger or a wing forward. It is a similar role I expect Iwobi to play in such set up.

I also pointed out is the strategy that matters.

When Man City sets up with Silva and Nasri wide, they play with the central midfield players to control the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 5:58pm On Oct 10, 2016
daveP:
Goal.com very funny. we need to settle this attack
basically, what the author of that article did was to name the team with the "biggest stars" as group winners, (thinking Ghana will win their group says it all). What he fails to understand is that teams like Nigeria and Egypt have far more balanced teams (Algeria might ARGUABLY have a very slightly superior attack than Nigeria, but I genuinely feel we've got a better midfield and a slightly better defence than them).

We shouldn't take these journalists seriously (I personally don't grin). They are not as informed and knowledgeable as they will like us to believe and most of their articles are aimed at stirring controversies.

CLICK BAITS smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 5:59pm On Oct 10, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
This Era of the Super Eagles will make a good inspirational movie in the long run... grin

I have always dreamed the coming of another golden generation.... And we're close to it. We are close to its full dawn... smiley




Keep on doing the good jobs on this Platform along with Tbaba, Joseph, Icon4s, Safarigirl, Terzurum, Goodjoe, Forgiveness etc!

You Guys are indeed very patriotic..... for believing in the National Teams ahead of the Club-Sides especially the foreign Ones!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 6:04pm On Oct 10, 2016
daveP:
See all of their boots... coloured and technical. The black en white days are relegated grin

grin

I am really proud of the new Look Eagles! A Dude in my Area asked me after the Match that who wins?! I replied him - Nigeria of course!

He couldn't believe it and said; wasn't it an away Match? I answered Yes! The next Question was very funny - he asked me if the Team donned the Green Jersey, and when I replied; No, it was the white Jersey. He was perplexed cos to him, the White Jersey is a Curse!

LOL!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 6:28pm On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I pointed out when Iniesta plays on the wing. Same with Silva. When you play Neymar in the team, he is not in a midfield set up but a forward set up. That is a 4-3-3. Not a compact 4-5-1 formation. Iwobi plays more of a midfield game than an all out winger or a wing forward. It is a similar role I expect Iwobi to play in such set up.

I also pointed out is the strategy that matters.

When Man City sets up with Silva and Nasri wide, they play with the central midfield players to control the game.

When was the Last time Silva played wide for man city and Spain, Last Season Navas and sterling were the Wide Players and both were Wide Wingers. Though I understand Your Point about Iniesta and Silva Playing out wide but Barca Played a False Nine so crossing the ball wouldn't be an option.

Like it or not even the experiment with iniesta and silva as wide playmakers failed at Barca(2012-2013) and Spain(Euros) that was why Barca had to change to inverted wingers with Neymar and Messing cutting in.

I would agree that i havent watched much of Nwobodo I dont its wise playing him as a wide Playmaker against an african side grin. We should use the African way create one on one sittuation with their fullbacks.

We already have Iwobi who is our wide playmaker it wouldnt hurt too much to have an inverted or conventional wingers grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princesuko(m): 6:35pm On Oct 10, 2016
Mickael2:



i disagree with your last sentence. I will start Enyeama any day any time, why? It's not just about the shot-stopping abilities, rather the way he coordniates the defence. Ikeme was not instructing anybody at all, that was why most times our full backs were unaware, as a GK you shout at your defenders, make them aware of the opposing players presence and I would fancy Enyeama to even keep out that goal they scored sef, so Enyeama anyday of the week abeg. Not to mention that he is our captain afterall.

Okay, i am allowed to be carried away by his exploits yesterday cool , But Enyeama has been in the National Team since 13 oor 14 years, I am sure Ikeme would have such presence too had he been here for that Long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:48pm On Oct 10, 2016
People better get ready for some shocking representatives of Africa at Russia.

We already know 2 of the usual 5 won't make it, but it just might he 3, cuz from my perspective, Egypt has a much better team than Ghana currently.

The sooner these fake analysts stop picking out finalists via FIFA ranking, the faster they'll come to terms with reality.

Anyway, one country I'll be glad to see in Russia is Senegal, I felt they were cheated out of Brazil last time, they wholly deserve a World Cup spot anytime.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:01pm On Oct 10, 2016
Mickael2:



i disagree with your last sentence. I will start Enyeama any day any time, why? It's not just about the shot-stopping abilities, rather the way he coordniates the defence. Ikeme was not instructing anybody at all, that was why most times our full backs were unaware, as a GK you shout at your defenders, make them aware of the opposing players presence and I would fancy Enyeama to even keep out that goal they scored sef, so Enyeama anyday of the week abeg. Not to mention that he is our captain afterall.

Carl Ikeme coordinates the defence well. He might not be a fire-brand shouter like Buffon, but he is effective at what he does. In defence he has the demeanor of Hugo Lloris, Bravo and Ter Stegen. These ones don't shout ferociously like Enyeama but still organize their defenses well.

Sometimes, shouting at defenders needlessly is counterproductive. For young defenders, you create panic in them and thus make them lose concentration. Who else noticed how that used to make Yobo, a veteran, jittery?

Also, Enyeama has conceded worse goals than what Ikeme conceded yesterday. May be you should watch the three goals Enyeama conceded before the International break against Saint-Étienne. Before winning against Nancy, Lille lost 4 games in a row, with Enyeama conceding 10 goals. Even as a great goal-keeper, he is not perfect.

Ikeme is a very capable goalkeeper. I have no complaints.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:16pm On Oct 10, 2016
princesuko:
Its Funny how people are suggesting Nwobodo who Is a deep-lying Playmaker should be used as a winger. Its like saying Pirlo or a Regista like Busquets should play as a winger.
This a Youtube Video of him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw89rh_cVqI][/url]
I had to comment when I saw this. Obinna Nwobodo has never ever ever played as a deep lying midfielder. Christian Madu is Rangers deep lying midfielder or Emeka Eze.
Nwobodo formed an attacking quadruple with Clement, Aguda, Egbuchulam which was called the "CANE ".
Any human being who has watched Nwobodo play will not even try to question his abilities.
The sort of goals and assists he bagged this past season will leave you gasping for breath.
Type on YouTube enugurangers and watch highlights of their games this last season. You will understand why the noise about Obinna Nwobodo's genius.
Had it been he was Brazilian, playing for Corinthians. Man city, Barca and Real Madrid would have been outdoing each other to get him for £40m.

On his role in this team, I think Barcelona and Spain has proved to the world that technically gifted players can be integrated into a team and the balance of play won't be affected.
I think Nigeria missed a trick in the late 90s and early 2000's with continuous benching of Oruma. Its a pity our coaches believed that only one no 10 can play at a time.
Had it been we had creative thinkers in our national team management then, they would have found a solution to play Oruma, Kanu and Jay Jay in midfield, just like Spain used Alonso, Busquests, Xavi and iniesta in their golden generation.
Integrating Nwobodo, Iwobi, Mikel, Iheanacho in this team will be quite close to the Spanish team that dominated the world and Europe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:30pm On Oct 10, 2016
zuchyblink:
Rohr should Unleash these XI against Algeria
/
...................----------IKEME-------------------------
/
BALOGUN---OMERUO----EKONG------ONAZI
/
----------------------ESITI--------------------------
/
-------------MIKEL----------------------------------
/
NWOBODO-------IHEANACHO----------IWOBI
/
--------------------ETEBOR------------------------
/
I go for Etebor(the beast) over Ighalo and Ideye

You sidon think this formation or na for dream u see am. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:32pm On Oct 10, 2016
joseph1013:


Carl Ikeme coordinates the defence well. He might not be a fire-brand shouter like Buffon, but he is effective at what he does. In defence he has the demeanor of Hugo Lloris, Bravo and Ter Stegen. These ones don't shout ferociously like Enyeama but still organize their defenses well.

Sometimes, shouting at defenders needlessly is counterproductive. For young defenders, you create panic in them and thus make them lose concentration. Who else noticed how that used to make Yobo, a veteran, jittery?

Also, Enyeama has conceded worse goals than what Ikeme conceded yesterday. May be you should watch the three goals Enyeama conceded before the International break against Saint-Étienne. Even as a great goal-keeper, he is not perfect.

Ikeme is a very capable goalkeeper. I have no complaints.


I am not saying he isnt okay o, but Enyeama is better and if he comes back,he starts but Ikeme isnt bad at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:35pm On Oct 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Depends on the coach and style of play. Yesterday, wing play let us down. We were dangerous keeping possession and passing the ball. With Nwobodo, we can stay organised in the middle and break the opposition with quick passing combinations.

TheGoodJoe, i have always known you to be a fantastic analyst of the game. But the thing is when ever u love a player u sentimentally throw ur weight behind that player, disregarding all other factors that may come to play in terms of team selection and players performance. You know this is not the first time i would say this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:48pm On Oct 10, 2016
forgiveness:
Although, I didn't have the opportunity to see the first half but I was able to see 40 minutes before the end of the second half.

I think we have dwelt much on the first eleven without considering their replacement in case of any eventuality.

First of all, I noticed the defence could not withstand countless waves of attacks. Especially from the wing backs.

It seems we depend too much on Mikel Obi and Onazi in the midfield.

I don't understand why our coaches don't like doing the right thing.

Why use a defender/defensive midfield as a wing back when we have Brain Idowu and Tyrone Ebuechi who plays regularly for their teams?

Moses Odubanjo and Ola Aina dey dere too but dem go wan squeeze dem players into the team.

I think it is high time we look for credible left back too. Elderson Echiejile seems to be another weak link at the back.

Taye Taiwo still plays better than all the players tested so far and he is the only left back playing regularly. But he must be tried in a friendly before the qualifiers.


Kenneth Otigba must be called.

Who can replace/substitute Iheanacho and Iwobi should be the next thing a reasonable coach should think of.


You no dey tire with all those your names? grin

On substitute for Iwobi and Iheanacho. Iwobi did nt play against Tanzania didn't we have a player in that position?

For Iheanacho's substitute we have Etebo and even Mikel who can play the number 10 role.
Just tell Rohr u want Ajagun to be invited and stop beating about the bush grin.

For the RB in that game againat Zambia u expected us to play Ebuechi, Brian Idowu or Moses Odubajo?
Musa Mohammed was tagged not experienced enough how much less all those names you keep rolling out.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:05pm On Oct 10, 2016
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:25pm On Oct 10, 2016
Watched some Rangers highlights... Very impressed by the quality of their goals.. movement, pace and technique.. Not what i associate with the local league.

Who was the player that broke his leg in the last game of the season?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:32pm On Oct 10, 2016
Alg 1-1 Cam. Goals highlights.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=Algeria%20vs%20cameroun%202016&sm=3
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 8:41pm On Oct 10, 2016
Icon4s:


You sidon think this formation or na for dream u see am. grin
We cannot bank on Echiejile to stop Mahrez.Onazi can match him speed for speed,strenght for strenght and for the fact that Mahrez is a left footer and Onazi is a right footer,it will be easier for him to stop Mahrez.
Etebor remains a beast in front of the post more than the over rated duo of Ideye and Ighalo. An attack of Ideye and Ighalo cannot defeat Zambia in Ndola if there is a rematch. The duo remains over rated
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2016
zuchyblink:
We cannot bank on Echiejile to stop Mahrez.Onazi can match him speed for speed,strenght for strenght and for the fact that Mahrez is a left footer and Onazi is a right footer,it will be easier for him to stop Mahrez.
Etebor remains a beast in front of the post more than the over rated duo of Ideye and Ighalo. An attack of Ideye and Ighalo cannot defeat Zambia in Ndola if there is a rematch. The duo remains over rated

Your formation is an attempt at destabilizing the team. So if Onazi hu is Right footed plays at LB, with what leg will he pull a cross? Left or Right? grin

Bros leave Echiejile there. He just needs to cub unnecceaary adventures. Plus the Wing Forward and CB should provide him adequate support. Leave Onazi to continue the good work with Mikel in the Midfield.

Etebo cannot start as our CF. Forget it. At least not in the next match.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:06pm On Oct 10, 2016
princesuko:


When was the Last time Silva played wide for man city and Spain, Last Season Navas and sterling were the Wide Players and both were Wide Wingers. Though I understand Your Point about Iniesta and Silva Playing out wide but Barca Played a False Nine so crossing the ball wouldn't be an option.

Like it or not even the experiment with iniesta and silva as wide playmakers failed at Barca(2012-2013) and Spain(Euros) that was why Barca had to change to inverted wingers with Neymar and Messing cutting in.

I would agree that i havent watched much of Nwobodo I dont its wise playing him as a wide Playmaker against an african side grin. We should use the African way create one on one sittuation with their fullbacks.

We already have Iwobi who is our wide playmaker it wouldnt hurt too much to have an inverted or conventional wingers grin

So what is your problem in what I said? I did not bring Nwobodo into the topic. Someone pointed how strong we were with Iwobi, Iheanacho and Mikel combining makes us strong. When I was watching the match, I thought do we have another player who can play wide and like Iwobi. Not just a winger.

I think it was goldfish80 that pointed at Nwobodo. It clicked. If we want to play that way, Nwobodo can add to it.

So what is the problem? It was a brilliant suggestion that someone feels Rohr should look into. He did not say we must play that way against Algeria or that should be our style.

So please tell me what the problem is? I was explaining his suggestion.

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