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| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by bigiyaro(m): 8:39am On Oct 11, 2016 |
NaijaMutant:u need to reformat ur brain. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by omokab: 8:40am On Oct 11, 2016 |
eph12:Mr man it is their fault. I red what wole olanipekun said about technicality in judgment delayed. Firstly, we are talking about bribery and corruption from the side of judges in the country not from the side of lawyers. Lawyers were only doing their work, if at all they really know the case can't be won but they will still try and convince judge for the fact that they are getting their money. Does technicality mean that they should collect bribe(judges)? You can as well read what baba Falana said about all these judges and NJC. They are too corrupt. You can read section 12(2) and 13 of AcjA and 43(1) and many others to justify if what DSS did was right. Pls don't let us support our criminal leaders because of religion,ethnicity for any reason,they are only killing us and enjoying with their family. USA has done something related like this when judges are too compromise. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by bigiyaro(m): 8:43am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:wats common sense dia? So some rotten judges should be pooing on the very ideology dey were sworn to uphold because der will be no one to judge dem? |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by FirstCounsel(m): 8:47am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:You're spot on. One cold pack of juice for you... |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by Hedonistically: 8:50am On Oct 11, 2016 |
AntiWailer:Is the mere possession of money an evidence of criminality in itself and by itself? |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by vicbummadu(m): 8:53am On Oct 11, 2016 |
The younger generations will do themselves a great deal of good by dis-aligning with the sentiments the destroyers of this nation have successfully used as tools to manipulate the destinies of the entire populace for selfish gains. They sell religious bias to you, sell regional, ethnic and political sentiments to you and exclude you from the spoils of the victory after you have fought gallantly to win the fight for "them". I am bothered with so many ills in Nigeria, the arrest of "corrupt" judges is not one of them. I am privy to instances where Nigerian Judges have shamelessly stood law & logic on its head to deliver incontrovertibly inconceivable judgements just because they have the powers to do so. To me, the accusation of corruption is a weightier matter than the mode of arrest. If in all honesty, we accept and justify the solidarity of their colleagues in the judiciary and also believe that "judges will deal with Buhari" for touching some of their own, it means we have adopted the clique game and I wonder how then we muster the moral grounds to criticize president Buhari and his "clique" of nation drivers for playing the same game. Nigerian Justices are an impediment to the fight against corruption even before buhari came into power. Howbeit that no corruption case of a "big fish" has been fully prosecuted since 1999? On what exactly are these Judges feeding fat? For how long shall we by a whip of sentiment, sweep weighty matters under the carpet? MTCHEEEEWWW!!!! |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by ALISMILE(m): 8:57am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:see hw u ve shot ursef in leg! U re sure Buhari lacks waec, yet allowed to contest election and u still don't see there is a serious period with the Judiciary. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by sammyj: 8:58am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Wonderful comment !!! ![]() onomeasike: |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by godquality: 9:02am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:This crack me up. Sorry i just can't take you serious after this. The same NJC that always recommend requirement abi? Is recommending retirement but the same are encouraging corruption? Retirement means they'll still be paid as pensioners. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by godquality: 9:04am On Oct 11, 2016 |
onomeasike:Couldn't have said it any better. In a develop country this might even lead to all cases handled by these judges to be reopen. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by AntiWailer: 9:04am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Hedonistically:That is money laundering. Money laundering itself is a criminal offence. You see why I suggest that the education sector be revamped as a long term solution to the current madness ? |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by eph12(m): 9:08am On Oct 11, 2016 |
omokab:It's like we're talking about two different things here. Yes judges do collect bribes but that's not what we're talking about. If Wole is able to frustrate and prolong trials does it mean he has bribed the judge? Well maybe that's the case. In most cases it's either the defence or prosecution lawyers that call for adjournment. I recently read about a case involving the fg and Dasuki. The case was adjourned why? Because the fg couldn't produce him in court. Why is that? No explanation from the fg. Why wouldn't they want this case to be dealt with once and for all? Like Wole said if delay tactics is done to your advantage it is excellent but when done against you the lawyer or court becomes evil. Please note that I didn't say anything about the current corrupt cases because I know nothing unless what appears in the papers. When facts with evidence begins to come out then I can have a say. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by ISTANDWITHBUHAR: 9:09am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:I wonder how wailing wailers with flat head reason, In a situation where the Certificate was lost or damage what will you present? Affidavit and that what Buhari have been presenting since 2003 that he has been contesting and no one ever complaining until when you clueless,ineffectual,baboon,ogogoro master, useless son of a fisher sees the loosing sign.. PMB have a court affividavit to back up his claim and the military that claim not to be in possession of his credentials later said they have found his credentials but your likes still ranting and wailing... Election is over chukwudi44 and no free money as usual. http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/nigerian-army-finds-buharis-missing-certificate-what-apc-has-to-say/ http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/buhari-certificate-saga-tore-the-army-apart-gen-ikpomnwen/ https://www.nairaland.com/2235555/see-photo-buharis-missing-certificate Picture below is the copy of the certificate you are crying about.
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| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by masseratti: 9:14am On Oct 11, 2016 |
ogwumgbe:in essence, what are you saying? |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by hotseat: 9:18am On Oct 11, 2016 |
I'm not surprised. BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by ManTiger(m): 9:18am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Do they protest when this happened? Bunch of criminals.
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| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by masseratti: 9:20am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:its not a crime, but Judges are not allowed to do any other business to earn income apart from their salaries if their salary per month is not up to a million, whrere did they get the money from? |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by mapet: 9:25am On Oct 11, 2016 |
ehissi:For someone accusing another.....yet you came up with a load of crap!!!lestat: :what are you saying sef?? 1. A judge is NOT designed to be unsentiment, unemotional........... He actually has that as a responsibility. The moment he goes out of line, he's supposed to get the boot and be prosecuted. 2. You need not be socially and financially bouyant before lawyers and judges do their constitutional duty. Where da fvck did you conjure that crap from. Judges are paid from the taxes of every Nigerian and as such is mandated to adjudicate according to the dictates of the law for both the common man and the rich. 3. You try a lot to explain what you don't understand. Judges are trained to go through every facts of argued cases and interprete in line with the law. The number of pages and financial motivated arguments of lawyer is irrelevant. A judge is employed and paid to read those "3000 pages" THAT IS IS JOB and nothing special 4. It is unfortunate that you cannot comprehend how lawyers make money. This is simple to decipher, but you turn logic up it's head. I'm not suprised, you're simply an uninformed "spectator". Lawyers do legitimately make good money. for example aside litigation, Lawyers are on retainer-ship with coys and also publications. Gani made legit millions from Weekly Nigerian Law report publication, before other lawyers saw the opportunity. The desk that published the weekly law report grew to be a publishing coy on its own 5. I'm suprised that you cannot establish the nexus between lawyers defending the poor and shoring up their profile to attract big investors. Festus Keyamo started out as a defender of the poor, especially during the days of Abacha. That brought him to lime-light especially when he challenged Daniel Kanu (the Youth Earnestly Ask for Abacha crook) to a national debate. Later on Oil communities started soliciting his services and one day Chevron became his client. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by Hedonistically: 9:29am On Oct 11, 2016 |
solidman59:I don't know what your academic discipline is, but you people need to have a very basic understanding of political science and philosophy - particularly on the origins of the modern state systems and the rule of law - in order to learn why you should be extremely careful in making some of these rather thoughtless suggestions. Preceding the modern state was the Hobbesian State of Nature in which life was generally "nasty, brutish, and short". In other words, mankind was engulfed in a state of anarchy without established authorities or bodies of law to guide conduct in human societies. To overcome this, citizens had to constitute themselves into modern state systems in which they traded some of their liberties in exchange for a body of laws and a recognised authority to prevent arbitrariness and ensure orderliness. This laid the foundation for what later became known as the rule of law. If the processes of "diplomacy" and the rule of law are too slow as you put is, the only (in)conceivable alternative is arbitrariness and anarchy. I can see you in the market place tomorrow, and because I hold grudges against you, I would declare you a thief and armed robber who attached me the previous night - and shout that passersby should bring fuel and matches. Instantly, you will be burnt to death - regardless of your innocence or guilt. This surgical solution would help me avoid the "too slow processes of diplomacy and rule of law", but does it promote justice and orderliness of society? Think about that. Everything that has advantages also has disadvantages, but society always settles for a system that works. No man should ever be allowed to arrogate to himself absolute powers, regardless of the supposed 'goodness' of his intentions or motives, because absolute power corrupts absolutely IN ALL CASES. The legendary jurist, A.V Dicey already provided the timeless argument against this when he opposed the Divine Rights of Kings... Bottom line: We must be very careful not to invite anarchy upon ourselves because we are impatient to follow due process. A word is enough. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by mapet: 9:29am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:1. First off, you lie shamelessly. Buhari was NEVER in court for certificate forgery. 2. Secondly you demonstrate ignorance of the law. The DSS does not need to go through the NJC to investigate and arrest judges deemed to have committed economic crimes and offenses that threatens the security of the state. I challenge you to quote the section of the law that says the DSS should go through the NJC. The NJC is simply an administrative organ of the judiciary with no powers to do beyond recommendation. It is better you understand how the law works than just perpetuate ignorance |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by mapet: 9:31am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Hedonistically:Absolutely. Especially when you cannot explain the source(s) and when the sources are not legit. That is the law |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by cktheluckyman: 9:33am On Oct 11, 2016 |
godquality:Of all the arrested judges only the former CJ of Enugu state was indicted by the NJC!!! My friend learn to read the news |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by cktheluckyman: 9:34am On Oct 11, 2016 |
mapet:since when did possession of money become a crime under the law? who told you they could not explain the source of the money!!! someone barges into your house in the middle of the nights picks you up and loots your money and you suddenly become a thief!!! haba!!! |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by cktheluckyman: 9:36am On Oct 11, 2016 |
mapet:The funny thing about your rants is that the DSS does not posses the powers to try anyone.After all theiur gestapo action,they will still bring the suspects to the courts to be tried by members of the NJC!!! Seriously common sense is truly not common |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by anonimi: 9:36am On Oct 11, 2016 |
mapet:It cannot be absolutely yes and then still be qualified with "especially when". So which one is it? Absolutely? Or conditional ![]() |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by Hedonistically: 9:37am On Oct 11, 2016 |
mapet:Which law is that? Specifics please. Which law criminalises the mere possession of money as well as the failure or wilful refusal to explain the source of such money. Also, which law makes it compulsory for a person to "explain" the source of his money held in his own house to law enforcement agencies. And which law empowers law enforcement agencies to charge a person to court for the 'offence' of refusing to explain the source of his wealth. Specific laws with relevant sections/subsections please. Thank you in advance. |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by anonimi: 9:39am On Oct 11, 2016 |
mapet:Not quite so, bro. 105africa: |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by anonimi: 9:44am On Oct 11, 2016 |
Hedonistically:Let us wait for him to justify the dictatorial gestapo-style oppressor who is our public SERVANT in Aso Rock. anonimi:https://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-first-they-came-for-the-communists-but-i-was-not-a-communist-so-i-did-not-speak-out-then-they-came-martin-niemoller-285246.jpg |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by gbishman: 9:47am On Oct 11, 2016 |
bUNCH OF CORRUPT ENTITIES CALLED JUDGES. AM GLAD BUHARI IS UP TO THE TASK ANY DAY ANY TIME. SHAMELESS UGBONI MEMBERS |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by ehissi(m): 9:48am On Oct 11, 2016*. Modified: 10:03am On Oct 11, 2016 |
AntiWailer:Please be matured in your comments. I suspect you are very passionate about ridding this nation of corruption but that shouldn't rob you of your objectivity. A yoruba parable - and for your information I am not even yoruba - sasy that " only a wicked elder judges a matter after listening to just one side of the story". A reporter from CNN covering the Clinton/Trump US presidential debate once said "everyone is entitled to their (own version of) the truth but no one is entitled to their own facts. These are the facts of the matter Nowhere in the media has DSS given an official statement on what happened. All stories on this issues in the press coming from DSS has been based on unanamed "Top/Senior intelligence officer" or "A close sources at the DSS" which is strange. Should a government agency be peddling rumours over matters of state especially if it is truly a national security issue?? When Jonathan/Yar adua was there, we had Maryln Ogah as Spokesperson of the DSS giving press conferences: why have they abandoned this standard and responsible practice if they are not creating room for deniability in the future?? Nowhere in the press does it say that DSS had an arrest warrant to arrest the judges. An arrest warrant is to be issued by a judge and no judge will give a warrant for a matter purely under the Jurisdiction of the NJC. What the alleged Top intelligence officer with no name at the DSS said they got was a Search warrant issued by a magistrate judge. To search the premises of the judges and after the alleged search, they arrested them on grounds of National security. The DSS never said the Judges were arrested for allegations of corruption. What they saying officially is that they arrested Corrupt judges on allegations of breach of National security..... Those are the facts. In my own opinion, the reason for the last item is simple. The DSS do not have the budget nor the power constitutionally to investigate corruption without a direct order from the presidency - it is outside their brief - what they have is the right without an order to investigate breaches to Sovereignty as a Nation internally and externally through National security and that is why DSS officials are involved in the Boko-haram war. DSS can only arrest/restrain anybody - including the President of Nigeria, yes even the President of Nigeria is not above this power - on the grounds of breach of National security and that's why they are using that excuse because only NJC can sit/discipline sitting judges with respect to how they handle court cases at the first instance. Plus DSS said they recovered $2million (#1billion) in a judge house. Can you for sure confirm this except in open court where they will tender evidence for the whole world to see?? Why haven't DSS released Dasuki to defend himself in court for the EFCC trials for stealing $2.1billion for the whole world to see?? Why is it that it is when the Judge denied EFCC's motion to try Dasuki secretly and hide the details of Dasuki's trial from the press that DSS decided to detain Dasuki on the grounds of National security?? They told the world he stole $2.1billion, but they don't want him to say his side in court and everybody is praising Buhari............ Have you seen all the cases they are claiming the Judges collected bribe to deliver judgement? Why is it that 99 percent na election matter?? Just use your number 1 to 6 when you hear some cases sometimes sha.... Chikenan........ |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by mapet: 9:51am On Oct 11, 2016 |
cktheluckyman:1. The Money Laundering Act part 1:1 addresses the limitation to make and accept cash payments in excess of N5m for individual, beyond which should be declared. So it infers that either in the bank or if found on you, you need to have legitimate source of that income. Unfortunately for you the DSS is a law enforcement organ of the state and not just someone...... 2. Have the judges explained the sources of these monies? In addition have they explained the sources of monies where judges opened fictious account in names of their family members, yet they are signatories.........Bros these judges have serious explanation to do |
| Re: Judges Boycott Courts In Abuja To Protest Arrest Of Colleagues by AntiWailer: 9:57am On Oct 11, 2016 |
ehissi:There is an official statement from dss signed by Abdullahi Garba detailing the operation and the amount gotten as evidence. It is clear in the statement that they were arrested for corruption and bribery. Presidency came out to say corruption and not judiciary is under attack. So when you string all this together and you claim "be matured in your comment" i wonder if maturity has got a new definition. |
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