Ranchhoddas:
lol... Awe.

I know its awe bro
I'm asking if you believe adeboye could've said that thing
"who created god, stop disturbing yourself "

hopefulLandlord:


I know its awe bro

I'm asking if you believe adeboye could've said that thing

"who created god, stop disturbing yourself "

Of course. I listen to Adeboye whenever I can. It's not unlike him to say such a thing. I've heard him say stranger things.

Xtopher123:


Why do other Religious People die?

Don't forget Death is a characteristics of Man.. MRNIGERDS

Really...that being said humans are subordinate to some supreme being...owing to the fact that we cant overcome death. Humans cant create life. So who creates the life? Who creates d animal. Archaeological fact has it that we were monkeys before being human blablabla. What of other living things. Ask urself who did all that...if u come to the conclusion that no human can? believe theres someone somewhere somehow supreme than you.

engrchykae:
if you will tell me exactly how long it took the first monkey to fully. evolve into man then I can start to prove your evolution wrong.

can you see what i mean.No one said monkey evolved into man or is that what you were taught in sunday school

Edenoscar:

can you see what i mean.No one said monkey evolved into man or is that what you were taught in sunday school

Those guys just spill anything they hear, its hilarious

hopefulLandlord:


Those guys just spill anything they hear, its hilarious

can you imagine and he wants to disprove evolotion

cuteralph101:
Really...that being said humans are subordinate to some supreme being...owing to the fact that we cant overcome death. Humans cant create life. So who creates the life? Who creates d animal. Archaeological fact has it that we were monkeys before being human blablabla. What of other living things. Ask urself who did all that...if u come to the conclusion that no human can? believe theres someone somewhere somehow supreme than you.

The bolded - Is that what your teacher taught you? Better go back and demand for your school fee back in full.. They said we were once as primitive as Apes, not That we were once monkeys.. Get that into your Skull..

In the words of Carl Marx - "Religion is the Opium of the masses" Meditate on that..

That we've not found out this very moment does not mean it can't be found or should I just sideline the research just because someone somewhere THINKS that there is a Supreme Being overseeing our affairs..

Until then I choose not to believe that I'm subjected to a supreme being..

I'm my own God..

I understand why some folks are embracing atheism. I too could have been an atheist. It's difficult for a 'rational/logical' mind to believe what seems 'irrational/illogical'.

But I'm not.

ever811:
is that the answer.?

If you are telling me about God and I am DEAF DUMB and BLIND,how would you explain it to me?

knowyaself2:

Atheism may look stupid only because it denies the supernatural in its entirety. But when an atheist says there's no God, he is almost right. This is because there's no God in the way Christians, Muslims, and other popular religions think of it. The so called supernatural is a product of nature.
Nature is the presiding consciousness that brought everything into existence. It has no personality, doesnt reason, doesn't hold grudges against anyone, doesn't judge anyone, and is indifferent to how you live. But it is the creative and destructive energy which permeates everything, and It tends to follow some natural laws and blueprint it set for itself. This presiding energy/consciousness is the source of all magick and existence. It has no beginning and no end. It is synonymous with the universe or mother nature.
Higher beings, created same way we were created by the natural workings of this energy, have gained mastery over this energy, and can use it for different purposes. This sea of pure consciousness is available for anyone who has the knowledge to use. Christians and Muslims should indeed stop wasting their time praying to some imaginery God who sits in the sky, monitoring human affairs. That is the deception and lie.

"Nature is the presiding consciousness that brought everything into existence. It has no personality, doesnt reason, doesn't hold grudges against anyone, doesn't judge anyone, and is indifferent to how you live. But it is the creative and destructive energy which permeates everything,"

According to this your statement above Nature is the creator of everything. And It can't reason, no reasoning falcuty. How on earth can something that cant reason create. Do u think it makes sense.

By profession I am an artist. I paint and sculpt. Now I put a lump of clay on the table and I want to use it to mold something. I have to first decide what to use that clay to mold. Is it a cup, a pot, a kettle etc. That is reasoning. Then after I have decided on what to do with it now I have to know how to do it before I can use it.

If you are given a ball of clay now I know you wont know what to do with it because you are not the artist, I am. That is reasoning.

So how come nature that can't reason like you said made man and everything he needs to survive. That alone is not sensible.

Nature knows you need blood he put blood in you not just in you but it puts it in blood veins, nature knows something has to be pumping the blood in the areas needed so it made you a heart and yet Nature does not reason.

Nature made the Sun to keep you warm and give you light to make plants grow so that you can have something to eat which if you don't you will die. yet Nature does not reason.

It made the air and created where it will pass into your body, it made the lungs to use it and use it perfectly for your existence yet Nature can't Reason.

Nature knows without water you will die so, it created water, yet nature cant reason.

Nature attarch you to the surface of the earth with gravity because without it you might float away into space and that would spell doom for you, yet it cant reason.

Nature did not put you on pluto or venus because if you were put there you would die it put you on earth where everyting for your survival have been provided. yet this nature cant reason.

Nature just made everything happen suddenly without thinking and reasoning and everything started working perfectly for man and animal.

If I should go on and on the text would be too long.

THE BIG BANG THEORY IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL

Bros sit down and think and think deeply about all you have written. No offence but you have made no sense at all with all you wrote.

If Nature can't Reason and It made you that Can reason then Nature is very stupid.


Nothing like what you believe, if you should die with this kind of notion then my brother you are in deep trouble.

Give your life to Jesus today and You'ld thank the Lord you did. God made you and every other thing you call nature.

Peace be onto you bros.

'Only a FOOL says in his heart, ''there is no GOD''...
PSALM 14;1

ivili:
If you are telling me about God and I am DEAF DUMB and BLIND,how would you explain it to me?

see question.... same way you will tell me about science if iam in that condition..

ever811:
see question.... same way you will tell me about science if iam in that condition..

I never claimed to be good in science.if I make any claim,you have the right to question me,but I have made none and you claim to know the existence of God.So try and educate me a little,just try.

davtosh:




"Nature is the presiding consciousness that brought everything into existence. It has no personality, doesnt reason, doesn't hold grudges against anyone, doesn't judge anyone, and is indifferent to how you live. But it is the creative and destructive energy which permeates everything,"

According to this your statement above Nature is the creator of everything. And It can't reason, no reasoning falcuty. How on earth can something that cant reason create. Do u think it makes sense.

By profession I am an artist. I paint and sculpt. Now I put a lump of clay on the table and I want to use it to mold something. I have to first decide what to use that clay to mold. Is it a cup, a pot, a kettle etc. That is reasoning. Then after I have decided on what to do with it now I have to know how to do it before I can use it.

If you are given a ball of clay now I know you wont know what to do with it because you are not the artist, I am. That is reasoning.

So how come nature that can't reason like you said made man and everything he needs to survive. That alone is not sensible.

Nature knows you need blood he put blood in you not just in you but it puts it in blood veins, nature knows something has to be pumping the blood in the areas needed so it made you a heart and yet Nature does not reason.

Nature made the Sun to keep you warm and give you light to make plants grow so that you can have something to eat which if you don't you will die. yet Nature does not reason.

It made the air and created where it will pass into your body, it made the lungs to use it and use it perfectly for your existence yet Nature can't Reason.

Nature knows without water you will die so, it created water, yet nature cant reason.

Nature attarch you to the surface of the earth with gravity because without it you might float away into space and that would spell doom for you, yet it cant reason.

Nature did not put you on pluto or venus because if you were put there you would die it put you on earth where everyting for your survival have been provided. yet this nature cant reason.

Nature just made everything happen suddenly without thinking and reasoning and everything started working perfectly for man and animal.

If I should go on and on the text would be too long.

THE BIG BANG THEORY IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL

Bros sit down and think and think deeply about all you have written. No offence but you have made no sense at all with all you wrote.

If Nature can't Reason and It made you that Can reason then Nature is very stupid.


Nothing like what you believe, if you should die with this kind of notion then my brother you are in deep trouble.

Give your life to Jesus today and You'ld thank the Lord you did. God made you and every other thing you call nature.

Peace be onto you bros.

Some things are hard for words and impossible to understand by the undeveloped human mind. Have you for once meditated to acquire divine insight? Do you know the essence of this divine force? Or do you just beleive that for something to create or design , it must be some individual with intelligence? Even without power meditmeditation, have you not realised how big and infinite the universe really is?
God is just an "all encompassing" consciousness or energy. Now, like i said earlier, this energy doesn't have a face or a character, and is not "offended", does not "take revenge" or anything like this. Its a force that exists within all beings, and this is the creative power. Its just a force. We can call it nature or life. Through this force, existence becomes possible, and this force doesn't love a jew better than all others, neither will it descend from the heavens to kill all those who oppose the jews. As I said, this force runs into all beings in existence, and we can parellel this to the Shakti energy of the Kundalini. For this reason, this is the energy of birth, existence, and the creative principle.

What happens in all creations when they "start existing" is that they are on the route to evolution. Evolution is a natural principle and happens over the milennia. As beings evolve, they can follow whatever route and end wherever. This force that creates, does not really co-ordinate everything in existence, and its not "God" in the sense humanity has been developed by the vile religious hoaxes to believe in.

In other words, this force is not in itself "Responsible" for things that we are responsible, because after a point, the Race of the Gods who created humans and altered our "normal" evolutionary process, have developed consciousness, control over, and mastery over this "force". This "force" is just potentiality and nothing else. What this is we cannot really relate in words, but what can be said, is that through the gods teaching which is meditation, one "re-connects" to "God" or this force. We can just call "God", nature. This is the most accurate thing. We cannot fight against, or have any reason to fight against "nature", but in the same time, we have to master nature and know the highest rules within it, in order to increase our existence, and evolve as species. This force runs inside everyone, like nature and everything that exists in the human being, but we are not aware of it since birth, as by design we fall between those who are aware of it all the time (Gods) and Humans, who came with limited awareness.
We can heal it through the "Arts of the Gods" which are the medicine arts. The Gods after they genetically engineered humanity, they stayed there with us, raised us and taught us these arts of "God". The term "fallen" is just a defamation of the enemy, which considered humanity lower than swine, so those that were advanced and helped us, were named "fallen" as part of some smear campaign.

All this knowledge, capability, and these special powers, come through the increase of this "potentiality", applying it consciously to evolution and by undersanding the laws of nature. We are inseperate with "nature" and to claim that "nature/god" is outside of us, or is a kike sitting upon the clouds, ready to smite you for masturbating, is just jewish psychopathic paranoia. Only the jews lied to such extent in regards to these Truths. (Largely, because they never really understood these at all and in anyway. They are not created by their masters to be able to reach any high level, just enough to enslave and destroy us. From there, their masters will take the wheel away from this slave race of theirs.)

Now, there are a lot of beings in the universe more or less versed into these "arts" and more or less have realized this connection with this force. As such and because evolution moves and moves,

The Gods, whom we call "Demons" today, or these beings that were our progenitors, were held in obviously a higher esteem than the "God" force. This is because simply, they are on a higher esteem than the force itself. Nature provides a stone, but its the BEING and the MAN that creates the statue. Nature doesn't produce any finer thing, but only provides the materials for this production. The Gods are as thus obviously revered ABOVE "God" in this sense, but in the same time, as one with the "Mother Goddess" or Shakti, or Kundalini energy, or potentiality of the universe.

The Gods we respect as Gods, because they were above this force, they taught us how to master it, and they consciously altered our genetic route so that we exist today. We owe it all to them, we don't owe it to "God", and this impersonal force doesn't hold grudges, does't love, doesn't hate or anything like this. It does not require worship. When a being becomes conscious of this force, they themselves take the position of "God". In plain words, what would happen "automatically" by this force, as in some sort of "Divine plan", is now on the hands of the created being. This was obvious a giant leap in the evolution of species. It happens naturally.

Even the planet earth goes through cosmological changes that can wipe us out as mere fleas. The gods, who are trying to teach us how to evade this circle of vanity and finally come above this, in order to follow our existential destiny as beings. The enemy doesn't want us to know, so they keep us blind, praying to the wall, hide the Truth from Humanity, and act as a parasite that drains our evolutionary power, in order to fuel theirs. All this is in teh context of how existence, must and will continue. As existence furthers, there are also eternal routes of evolution and their process.
Unfortunately, there are no more "words" to explain these very sensitive matters accurately. But theres a solution for this too: Meditation. Through this discipline, if you are loyal to it and advance, you will re-ascend to this level of ability and understanding in order to fully grasp the "meaning" and the "purpose" behind these matters and all matters. In order to understand an "all encompassing" consciousness such as what we call "God", one needs to open up the Shakti, or the Serpentine Consciousness in order to get in. Without the Kundalini Serpent, there is no "God". To any "Godhead" there is, nobody can go there without the Kundalini Powers that the gods vested in Humanity.
Also,in one last note. "God" is not more important than TRUTH, and no, they are not "one", but through application of this force, one can reach the level of this understanding. God as explained is a force. Truth is what is the REASON BEHIND this force and any other, nature and anything else there is.

OoniOfIfe:
Whan I was a christian I was praying for knowledge,

Today I'm an atheist and[b] I'm glad[/b]

You have absolutely nothing to be glad about, no hope of an afterlife alone should make you depressed

hopefulLandlord:


we realised that every god is a man made concept

that's the knowledge I gained

That is confusion from the devil. You might not know this but he controls your thinking

Chai! This section o...........so many self acclaimed intellectuals

Me, I am just passing ni o

Xtopher123:

The bolded - Is that what your teacher taught you? Better go back and demand for your school fee back in full.. They said we were once as primitive as Apes, not That we were once monkeys.. Get that into your Skull..

In the words of Carl Marx - "Religion is the Opium of the masses" Meditate on that..

That we've not found out this very moment does not mean it can't be found or should I just sideline the research just because someone somewhere THINKS that there is a Supreme Being overseeing our affairs..

Until then I choose not to believe that I'm subjected to a supreme being..

I'm my own God..

u still die sha...a true God...d alpha n omega don't die.

ever811:
see question.... same way you will tell me about science if iam in that condition..

Wao I love your reply

I prayed to God a few years ago to give me critical thinking skills, it seems my prayers have been answered i am now an atheist and have deduced that God exists only in the minds of men

Edenoscar:

this was the same statement someone made earlier please educate yourself and know what a theory is

What I know is that a theory is an idea to explain a scientific phenomenon without enough proof to for it to be accepted as true. Simply there has not been enough experiments to prove the idea.
If I am wrong then pls educate me

I hate arguing to people who are not honest to themselves. I hope God doesn't leave you to your vices sha. You claim God is a man made concept... Please explain (with references). Don't just make such bold statements and feel cool with yourself.
We are not eager in thinking deep and lax in forming stupid theories without considering the effects.

I am a Christian and I fully believe in God. To me God cannot be logical so I won't think logically. After all experiences in my life tells me that logic can't be counted upon.
So for you atheists, since you claim God doe not exist, explain through your logical means. Some of us are knowledgeable to understand them. That does mean we would convert.. After all following God was not because it was quite logical to do

NZAGHA:
I pray God will make this atheist in here realise their mistakes and misconscepts about God.

a big AMEN to dat

Pidggin:


You have absolutely nothing to be glad about, no hope of an afterlife alone should make you depressed

if you cant live a normal life without the promise of an afterlife then am sorry for you. constant fear of hell and not making it, wont that cause depression

Pidggin:


That is confusion from the devil. You might not know this but he controls your thinking

lol,your devil is manmade too

jammy12:

What I know is that a theory is an idea to explain a scientific phenomenon without enough proof to for it to be accepted as true. Simply there has not been enough experiments to prove the idea.
If I am wrong then pls educate me

The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public, "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts

Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis, a hypothesis and not a theory is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step known as a theory in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.

Edenoscar:


The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public, "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts

Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis, a hypothesis and not a theory is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step known as a theory in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.

What you just explained is wrong. Give me reference to where you got such explanation from. What then is a principle? Every science student was taught this since secondary school... It is very weird you are saying this

Edenoscar:


The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public, "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts

Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis, a hypothesis and not a theory is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step known as a theory in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.

Mind you, a theory can be rational to the extent of it being widely acceptable by the science world. But it doesn't mean it us right. The early theory that the earth was flat was widely acceptable (based on the knowledge) but was it right? Except a theory his be fully proven under every related conditions, it can be wrong?

Edenoscar:


The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public, "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts

Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis, a hypothesis and not a theory is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step known as a theory in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.

Reading through your comment again. I take back what I said: your comment is correct but incomplete. I am sorry. Now with what you explained. Can a theory be proven to be wrong? Can the theory of evolution be proven to be wrong? The big bang? Carbon dating? Half lives?

hopefulLandlord:

we realised that every god is a man made concept
that's the knowledge I gained

So please, prove this with physical evidences!

hopefulLandlord:

we realised that every god is a man made concept
that's the knowledge I gained

So please, prove this with physical evidences!