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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by DonOrpzy: 11:57pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
The tithe is specifically mentioned in the Books of Leviticus,
Numbers and Deuteronomy. The tithe system was organized
in a three-year cycle, corresponding to the Shemittah-cycle.
These tithes were in reality more like taxes for the people of
Israel and were mandatory, not optional giving. This tithe
was distributed locally "within thy gates" ( Deuteronomy
14:28) to support the Levites and assist the poor. Source: Wikipedia 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by LifeDrama: 11:59pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
Thanks sir! Demigods666: |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Rexnegro(m): 12:00am On Oct 19, 2016 |
MrPRevailer:when someone talk about somethings in The old testament we will say it's it's old testament that Christ has come so those old thingz in old testament no longer in effect but why this tithe issue is still referred to and we donnt say it's in old testament. for me tithe in churches these days ain't used in the way it was defined to be used....the early churches used tithe and offerings to assist humanities, help build Schools, clinics etc but churches nowadays have lost it, common 5k to solve Your 5k prob some churches won't give You but give You excuses. aside that no Christian can quote issue about tithes from new testament, always from The old testament. even Christ when on earth didn't even emphasised on it. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Loveisthekey: 12:19am On Oct 19, 2016 |
CollinsWeGlobe: If you are led by God then no curse shall follow you my brother. The simple truth is that any man in Christ Jesus is a new creature, old things have passed away( including TITHE = 1/10th of your gain ), behold all have become new( no more CONSTANT percentage as the Holy Spirit of God directs and leads you into the truth of what you should give based on His own purpose and WHEN, HOW AND WHERE are determined by HIM alone under His dispensation. Holy Spirit dispensation ). It is just a pity that when we do not go back individually to our own garden of Eden to meet with God on mutual relationship in understanding the spiritual parables then we will always be classified as those who are without as said by Jesus in mark 4:9-12. TITHE = ONE TENTH should be replaced by " CHEERFUL GIVING TO GOD AS LED BY HOLY SPIRIT " In conclusion brother do not let the emotions and feelings you get from giving alms to people be a justifiable stand before God as no man righteousness is worthy to behold God's Heavenly Glory. Remember your act of asking God and giving Him first is a total submission to His Lordship. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savour and not a Savour alone, God bless you more in wisdom and grace. Amen. John 8:32 Gal 5:1 Deut 6:5 2 Cor 3:16-17. Thank you sir. 2 Likes |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Oyimeoyimemua(f): 12:25am On Oct 19, 2016 |
It's not wrong to give to the poor or needy but u hv to pay ur one tenth |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Mujtahida: 1:15am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Tallesty1:Thank you very much. Did God speak to him and tell him to give 10%? If you press him on this issue he will point you to a book. Let me say this: it is well known that in law hearsay evidence i. e them say, them say is not admissible save for certain exceptions like traditional history, expert evidence etc but in the things of God where a higher standard of evidence is supposed to be expected it's usually hearsay evidence that believers rely on: Moses said, David said, Paul said, Adeboye said etc. There weren't there when any of these persons heard from God. Believers tell us what your living God whose word is living and active said to you personally, tell us! |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 1:21am On Oct 19, 2016 |
annunaki2:well, I have little to say about u people speaking of grace n law............ just be mindful of ur believe xo it won't lead u wrongly....... tithings is a one tenth of your income either in cash or not ...... |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by micxwell(m): 1:23am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Beehshorp:No o, that's the story of the woman with the alabaster jar of perfume (MARK 14) i guess. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Lloydmario(m): 1:37am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Bro i strongly believe giving to the poor is better than paying tithe, because thats wat i do myself |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by martineinstein(m): 1:38am On Oct 19, 2016 |
seguno2:mehn! Dis guy no get joy o 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Brainiacmrtolz(m): 1:40am On Oct 19, 2016 |
The bitter truth is that It is real wickedness if you worship in a church of God and you intentionally refuse to pay your tithe. Because the commandment of God is for his people to bring one tenth of their income into his house. So if you decide not to pay tithe please just worship your god in your respective homes. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Pidggin(f): 2:22am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Sacluxpaint: I quoted passages in the new testament that encourages giving to the Church and men of God. Yes I dey read Pidgin version, na the same thin. I will quote you as much as I want, if you no like am oya deactivate your acct |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by josielewa(m): 2:29am On Oct 19, 2016 |
tithe was meant for the levites and it came in agric produce..in the old testament...in the new testament paul was a mason(bricklayer)to support himself and not be a burden unto thers. To buttress my point, in the old testament, they practice a system of govt called theocracy where the high priest is the head of the state, and the tithe is divided into 3(pls use the bible as reference). But today, most system of govt have changed to democracy etc...so if those pastors are saying 10%, then they have to share it accordingly by giving widows, orphans and the poor 33.3% of the tithez...how many pastor or churches or protestant churches does that....none, maybe only catholics... so if u give to the poor, you are giving to the 33.3%. And the tithe was never used in building the church, what was used was donation and contribution of your artisan knowhow(bricklayer, carpentry, painting, gold design)....have u read of ananias in the bible. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by bezimo(m): 2:32am On Oct 19, 2016 |
kaylivin: God commanded the tithe to be paid..... "Bring ye the tithe into my store house that there may be meat in my storehouse and prove me now ...." The command is clear.You may want to debate it if you want.But its clear what God said. Tithe is not a scam dont deceive yourself or others.To pay the tithe is not by force but when you dont, you attract the devourers to your case as described in Malachi in the form of losses that make you spend money unnecessarily on things and situations that could have been averted if you were a tither. So if you like obey God or not.Its not by force, afterall its a choice you make and live with the consequence. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by richie9093(m): 2:32am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Phi001: but Jesus didn't say the beautiful thing she did was paying the tithe to the synagogue or him. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 2:38am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Brainiacmrtolz:Can you imagine this people? I dont pay tithe. Oya come and drive me away from church. I wont do what I dont believe in. If you want to pay your tithe then pay it. If they call for contribution for church project, I can contribute and offer my services to it for free. However, I will not give 10% of my income for whatever reason and no devourer will devour my income. All these scare tactics cant work on me. Some churches will even say all those that pay tithe that month should come (or dance) forward and those that didnt should stay behind. Is all this in the bible? Yes, churches need money but they should stop obtaining it from members through dubious means. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by josielewa(m): 2:48am On Oct 19, 2016 |
this same pastor will say the old testament is old and christ has come to change it...even the realjews(judaism) dont believe in tithing anymore. remember the same priests that twisted the bible based on personal belief will also twist it to twist and deceive you...brother give to the poor, its better and when askef for donation give....remember they are building schools you cant afford, etc.... A question to the house....in the time of joshua when the battle was on, and "joshua said the sun should be still".You and i know that the sun has always been still cos the earth revolves around it.that was an hearsay..but if you bring up this arguement then in the 12th-18th century you can be killed becos the priest believe the sun revolves round the earth and the earth was flat....read about pope john paul and galileo...he came out to apologise.So the bible itself is filled with so many untrue things...read about bible compilation....and all will say they were directed by the spirit.... Brother give to the poor and dont answer those who know nothing about the bible, because they have been brainwashed from infant....read more and you shall know more.....shalom. 2 Likes |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by bankyj: 2:54am On Oct 19, 2016 |
it's a good fin to do I.e helping d needy , buh it's entirely diff from tithing, ur 1/10 earning is compulsory it goes to God. Pls don't get it twisted. and know dat u can challenge God in time of wot soever need it may be even in sickness dat u pay ur tithes diligently and u shudnt be sick. he will ansa. thank u
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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by kdfinest(m): 2:55am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Wilgrea7:Look who is saying people refused thier bible, maybe u should digest more of the word of God nt just read tru dats if u read it at all. (Mal 3:8-98 "Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, 'In what way have we robbed You?' In tithes and offerings.9 You are cursed with a curse, for you have robbed Me, even this wholenation. Bring all the tithes and offerings into my storehouse that there may be meat In my house and prove me now" 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by AAinEqGuinea: 3:07am On Oct 19, 2016 |
OP If you attend a church thats doing much for the community and its members then I think you should tithe. How you qualify your church's efforts is squarely up to you. Be reminded that you will judged by the same yardstick you judge others, giving money to others may not solve their problems and could be less effective rather than tithing to your church to help an ongoing effort which may be presently tackling important issues. On the other hand, maybe your spirit recognizes that your church isnt doing enough and/or they're performing outreach for all the wrong reasons, in which you should save your tithe for something more meaningful. Ultimately, be discerning with your resources. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by uzuede4(f): 3:28am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Fellow nairalanders, granted tithes were paid during the time of the Israelites for the upkeep of the priests. Following the death of jesus and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, the priesthood and the tithing arrangements ceased to exist. The apostles were used to establish the christian congregation here on earth. Reading the book of Acts one will see that there was no emphasis on tithe. In 2 corinthians 9:7, the aposle paul made it clear that we should resolve in our heart what we want to give. we should not give grudginly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Giving for christians is voluntary not compulsary as in the tithing arrangement of old. Pls, do not let anyone decieve you as to tithe.Give from your heart, and God will accept it. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Okeikpu(m): 3:35am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Edwinmason:Ndi oshi ooooooo When did God said that ? Where u there when he said that Ds African pple sef Come to the western world n talk ds nonsense n see what gonna happen 2you 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by ogunleye557(m): 3:43am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Tallesty1:Malachi ch3 Vs9_12 |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by flamingREED(m): 3:48am On Oct 19, 2016 |
What manner of idle generalisation is this?! Matthew 12 36 But I say unto you, That EVERY idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Who are you and how did you come to this judgemental conclusion on the mindset of all preachers of the gospel? You just lied and your eternal hopes are battered. annunaki2: There's absolutely no scriptures? What manner of gargantuan ignorance is this? What sort of stout mischief is this? What a liar you are??! Malachi 3 8 WILL A MAN ROB GOD? YET YE HAVE ROBBED ME. BUT YE SAY, WHEREIN HAVE WE ROBBED THEE? IN TITHES AND OFFERINGS. Such demand with this great consequence is nothing to you? 9 YE ARE CURSED WITH A CURSE: FOR YE HAVE ROBBED ME, EVEN THIS WHOLE NATION. Furthermore, see the effect Mr. Man 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, AND PROVE ME NOW HEREWITH, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, IF I WILL NOT OPEN YOU THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN, AND POUR YOU OUT A BLESSING, THAT THERE SHALL NOT BE ROOM ENOUGH TO RECEIVE IT. 11 AND I WILL REBUKE THE DEVOURER FOR YOUR SAKES, AND HE SHALL NOT DESTROY THE FRUITS OF YOUR GROUND; NEITHER SHALL YOUR VINE CAST HER FRUIT BEFORE THE TIME IN THE FIELD, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS. 12 AND ALL NATIONS SHALL CALL YOU BLESSED: FOR YE SHALL BE A DELIGHTSOME LAND, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS. Give to the poor but don't give to God? How will the world be reached through witnessing? Howe will crusades be constantly held and sinners won to the Lord? How will the house of God be built to His taste? (Haggai 1 4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste? 6 Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes...) And how will God's servants and their families be looked after without giving to God? I pity all half-baked and self-styled faithless Christians like you on this forum. It baffles me that you people don't fear God. Jesus my Lord reaffirmed tithing, But, of course, it's a lighter demand in comparison to certain things He specified. Matthew 23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: THESE OUGHT YE TO HAVE DONE, AND NOT TO LEAVE THE OTHER UNDONE. And the consequence of omitting the light matters of the law is great too: Matthew 5 19 WHOSOEVER THEREFORE SHALL BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, AND SHALL TEACH MEN SO, HE SHALL BE CALLED THE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Repent from making such unguarded utterances against God's servants and against His holy demands. You'll regret else, even in this life. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Okeikpu(m): 3:51am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ds nonsense wey una discus here na im Apple use buld iPhone 7 Lost generation.... The scam wey oyibo pple do una grandfathers a century ago still dey active uptil now KANU said black men a daft and I thought it was a joke Honestly we are more than daft 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Ogasah: 4:09am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Okeikpu: Lol... don't mind these foolish Nigerians that enslave themselves to a fictitious book about Jews written by romans and handed to them by Brits to deceive them. Go ask the queen of England how much she pays in tithes. Idiots.ZOMBIES. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 4:27am On Oct 19, 2016 |
I dont see Americans paying tithe oooo. I dont see chinese paying tithe oooo. Yet their country are most developed. But Nigeria with all the churches in every nook and cranny is dirt poor and even in recession. No light. No water. No good road. No good school. No work. Corrupt and greedy politicians. Pastor flying private jets and maintaining multiple jets. Pastors driving ferrari. All in lagos. Can one of you tithers explain this. So you mean I will sweat all day at work and one pastor somewhere will use my hardwork and brain work to buy Lamborghini and then you will say I should just pay my tithe and leave him for God? Ko joor mehn....... When it's not like needy people have finished in Nigeria. Some people cant even afford waec fees or money to go to lesson or to buy Jamb form to move up in life for a better future. And I'd be in the same country and give my money to a pastor to be flying private jet. If I hear. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Zedoo(m): 4:30am On Oct 19, 2016 |
MrPRevailer: Selective Christianity at its peak... This minute you will say the old testament laws have been nullified by the coming of Jesus Christ, next minute you pick outdated laws from the same old testament to justify self-righteous actions...... Bros/madam Jesus Christ said what so ever you do to the LEAST of my brothers that you do unto me.... Its left to whomever to decide what he/she wants to use the money for.... There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE A GOOD RIGHTEOUS CHURCH....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.....No MAN is righteous ... God is not a deluded, and didn't mince his words when he said judgement will start from the church.... |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Humbledude(m): 4:33am On Oct 19, 2016 |
Tithes does not restrict u from helping the needy, its ur obligation to pay tithe to the priests and at the same time help the needy. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Zedoo(m): 4:35am On Oct 19, 2016 |
12inches1: Ooohhhh may the trailer of God's blessing never cease in your life brotherly..... The blind will remain blind.... On the same street where there is a multi million naira church, you find perpertual beggars and destitutes and the "church" does not make ANY attempt to lead our "leaders" (whom the always blame for the nation's woes) by example.... Christians dont read their bible and most people are stupid (to put it mildly)..whatever their "daddy in the lord" says they do...... Nigga is busy piling the bar for private jet in recession, members are busy dropping from owning cars to jumping molue... 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by ddjay: 4:59am On Oct 19, 2016 |
CollinsWeGlobe:just separate them, since in the Bible the two were stated (tithe and helping the poor} but bros thus new churches like living faith,rccg,Christ embassy and the other pentecostal crew won't agree with you o,they are saying bring all,they call it seed sowing,pastors will bless the needy just bring it all. |
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by ddjay: 5:04am On Oct 19, 2016 |
CollinsWeGlobe:but i must commend you and pray God to bless you richly for giving to the poor and needy,remember the displaced persons all over the country. BUT PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE, DON'T USE THE SEED SOWING FORMULA OF THESE PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES BY GIVING ALL TO PASTOR IN THE NAME OF SEED SOWING.someone above posyed about clothing,feeding the needy, thats the word of God. |
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