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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by NOETHNICITY(m): 7:05am On Jul 03, 2016
StOla:


The mistake you make is to think a refinery needs to be fed with crude oil from it's host country.

There is crude oil all over West Africa. The economics of crude oil is now about who is willing to buy my product that is readily available elsewhere too and what concessions am I willing to make in the broader view of international diplomacy and trade partnership. Even Nigeria is looking for who will buy her crude. The arrogance of the crude oil producer community/country ended more than a decade ago. What obtains now is how best to keep your current buyers from switching to the competitor.

Hear it loud and clear, the oil producing states are already capped in terms of revenue generated by volume of crude oil sales due to international sales quota enforced by OPEC even when more crude could have been produced by those states and countries.

However, local sales to local refineries is independent of OPEC quota.

Why would a Delta State or Bayelsa State deprive their states the opportunity to earn more and pay salaries seeing that both states have no reasonable economy outside of oil earnings?

Whoever sells crude earns derivation money, who doesn't learn to cry like Delta and Bayelsa have been taught by their own self destructive Avengers.
At the end the pple will ve no choice but to vent their wrath on the avengers!

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by kcnwaigbo: 7:10am On Jul 03, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
The truth is that with time we might nolonger need crude pipelines(NDA wives) in Nigeria again! Its goin to be a matter of transporting the crude via batches and heavy vessels to the refinery! The end success of this refinery cannot be stopped! Any flat headed man frm anywhere praying for such laudable project to fail will be put to shame! Evil pple!

There is no issue with importing crude from outside to refine in lagos.But the question is how does that put money into the govt coffers commensurate with the money gotten from crude oil exportation from the niger-delta? Apart from Dangote paying taxes to Govt or importing paying duties,how else does that enrich the govet commensurateky with the money gotten from the sales of crude oil from the niger-delta?

My point is that whether a refinery is built in lagos or not,it would not stop niger-delta militants from still crippling the nigerian economy of they so wishes

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Rolings: 7:16am On Jul 03, 2016
kcnwaigbo:


Nigeria has a oil production capacity of 2.3million bpd.Out of that capacity about 2.2million barrels are in the Niger-delta good luck with he remaining 100,000 barrels in ondo and Lagos

And it seems you are forgetting that not all of Niger delta people are with the Ijaws in this madness called Niger delta avengers. Take out ijaw lands oil and you will realize there still more than enough oil

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Amberon: 7:32am On Jul 03, 2016
20% lol.... SW oil is only about 6%.
kcnwaigbo:


Why don't you ask about the oil production capacity of both ondo and lagos states!! Why don you think some states receive more oil derivative than another?

The oil in lagos and ondo combined is not even up to 20% of the oil in akwa ibom alone.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by malton: 8:52am On Jul 03, 2016
StOla:


The mistake you make is to think a refinery needs to be fed with crude oil from it's host country.

There is crude oil all over West Africa. The economics of crude oil is now about who is willing to buy my product that is readily available elsewhere too and what concessions am I willing to make in the broader view of international diplomacy and trade partnership. Even Nigeria is looking for who will buy her crude. The arrogance of the crude oil producer community/country ended more than a decade ago. What obtains now is how best to keep your current buyers from switching to the competitor.

Hear it loud and clear, the oil producing states are already capped in terms of revenue generated by volume of crude oil sales due to international sales quota enforced by OPEC even when more crude could have been produced by those states and countries.

However, local sales to local refineries is independent of OPEC quota.

Why would a Delta State or Bayelsa State deprive their states the opportunity to earn more and pay salaries seeing that both states have no reasonable economy outside of oil earnings?

Whoever sells crude earns derivation money, whoever doesn't learn to cry like Delta and Bayelsa Governors have been taught by their own self destructive Avengers.

Dangote doesn't need any oil from Nigeria, it is Nigeria that needs Dangote to buy her crude over other West African neighbours who are so eager to sell.

You can't talk sense into a scarecrow.

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Jlow2: 9:03am On Jul 03, 2016
d last tym i checkd militants sacked a community in ikorodu, is it niger/delta.?
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by archdon: 10:31am On Jul 03, 2016
kcnwaigbo:
Lolz where will the oil and gas that will be refined come from? Don't make me laugh too hard please.Shebi Kadunna has a refinery? Is it still getting supplies now?
Do u think Niger Delta is the only region in Nigeria dat has oil and gas?
Oil and gas are in other regions too from the shores of Lagos to Lake Chad, the reason they were unexplored is cos the technology to explore them wasn't available when oil was first discovered but now with fracking and other exploration techniques even cheaper than the old ways, depth previously tot to be impossible to reach are now being reached for half the cost.

Why did u even think oil price dropped globally to begin with, it's cos other countries too hv started exploration and the global output surged

Keep blowing up stuffs in the Niger Delta until there is nothing else to blow up.

the reality is the price might drop even further, u do kw they are experimenting with hydrogen as fuel and dats even in more abundance and greener

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by IrradiatoR: 10:50am On Jul 03, 2016
kayfra:


Ode.

Oil is a commodity traded internationally. He can get oil imported from Saudi, Iran, Angola, Brazil, North Sea or Russia sef.

Think!

that is the part they are missing out. . . as if Dangote is restricted to buying crude oil from Nigeria
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Nobody: 11:03am On Jul 03, 2016
kcnwaigbo:


There is no issue with importing crude from outside to refine in lagos.But the question is how does that put money into the govt coffers commensurate with the money gotten from crude oil exportation from the niger-delta? Apart from Dangote paying taxes to Govt or importing paying duties,how else does that enrich the govet commensurateky with the money gotten from the sales of crude oil from the niger-delta?

My point is that whether a refinery is built in lagos or not,it would not stop niger-delta militants from still crippling the nigerian economy of they so wishes
Ain't you getting the drill?! Is everything about generating revenue for the Government?! What's the essence of generating revenue when your citizens are living in abject poverty?! What impact has revenue generated so far from the ND had on the Nigerians?!
We are talking of massive jobs creation, stable power supply, probably in the entire south-west region, availability of PMS, AGO, Kerosene, Gas etc at all time!
Besides, you should know the Government will also collect "tax" from the Employees of Dangote Refinery! Many businesses will also spring up, thus creating more wealth for the Region.
It's a win win for the FG and the good people of South West Nigeria.
You Guys are wondering why there is peace in the West, Unity among all Westerners..... it's simply because we are tolerant and sophisticated.

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by waxxydude: 11:27am On Jul 03, 2016
Rolings:


And it seems you are forgetting that not all of Niger delta people are with the Ijaws in this madness called Niger delta avengers. Take out ijaw lands oil and you will realize there still more than enough oil
Please help me yarn them; ijaw madness is not the entire ND madness!

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Mustack: 4:44am On Jul 04, 2016
StOla:


The mistake you make is to think a refinery needs to be fed with crude oil from it's host country.

There is crude oil all over West Africa. The economics of crude oil is now about who is willing to buy my product that is readily available elsewhere too and what concessions am I willing to make in the broader view of international diplomacy and trade partnership. Even Nigeria is looking for who will buy her crude. The arrogance of the crude oil producer community/country ended more than a decade ago. What obtains now is how best to keep your current buyers from switching to the competitor.

Hear it loud and clear, the oil producing states are already capped in terms of revenue generated by volume of crude oil sales due to international sales quota enforced by OPEC even when more crude could have been produced by those states and countries.

However, local sales to local refineries is independent of OPEC quota.

Why would a Delta State or Bayelsa State deprive their states the opportunity to earn more and pay salaries seeing that both states have no reasonable economy outside of oil earnings?

Whoever sells crude earns derivation money, whoever doesn't learn to cry like Delta and Bayelsa Governors have been taught by their own self destructive Avengers.

Dangote doesn't need any oil from Nigeria, it is Nigeria that needs Dangote to buy her crude over other West African neighbours who are so eager to sell.
those senseless crap will realizes soon.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Mustack: 4:47am On Jul 04, 2016
kcnwaigbo:


There is no issue with importing crude from outside to refine in lagos.But the question is how does that put money into the govt coffers commensurate with the money gotten from crude oil exportation from the niger-delta? Apart from Dangote paying taxes to Govt or importing paying duties,how else does that enrich the govet commensurateky with the money gotten from the sales of crude oil from the niger-delta?

My point is that whether a refinery is built in lagos or not,it would not stop niger-delta militants from still crippling the nigerian economy of they so wishes
by then buhari led administration must have moved from micro to macro economy
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by naijaking1: 4:50am On Jul 04, 2016
kcnwaigbo:
Lolz where will the oil and gas that will be refined come from? Don't make me laugh too hard please.Shebi Kadunna has a refinery? Is it still getting supplies now?

Yes. Kaduna was the "largest" refinery in Africa.
Dangote should have built the refinery in Kano
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Beadex1(m): 5:47am On Jul 04, 2016
koladebrainiac:
Anybody can inmport crude oil n come n refine it now. The problem is not having crude oil,the problem is refining it. Shey china n india have oil field ni? Yet they have world class refineries. NDA would still sell oil to dangote when they are cash strap now-what are my saying sef,shebi oil price don fall. Yeye dey

Dem go drink oil ni? Niger delta needs a knock on their heads to reset to default setting.
I guess that's why the federal government are neglecting the port Harcourt refinery just To achieve this goal.......continue time will tell
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Izonpikin: 5:57am On Jul 04, 2016
Oya make all the south westerners leave the Mobil, chevron and shell for us make we enter na.... grin....including dpr...them no go gree ...because deep down they know the real deal.... cool


Well I pray for a better Niger delta where development thrives...

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Nobody: 6:10am On Jul 04, 2016
kayfra:


Ode.

Oil is a commodity traded internationally. He can get oil imported from Saudi, Iran, Angola, Brazil, North Sea or Russia sef.

Think!
Exactly. That is what he does not know. crude oil would still trade at same price irrespective of whether its shipped from Cameroun, a
Angola, Ghana, Gabon or Akwa Ibom.
He thinks dangote didnt take that into consideration before investing such an amount in lagos.lol
Dangote is not under any obligation to buy from the Oil majors in Niger delta.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by MalcoImX: 6:12am On Jul 04, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
At the end the pple will ve no choice but to vent their wrath on the avengers!
Exactly, like they did to BH in NE.

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Nobody: 6:20am On Jul 04, 2016
Jlow2:
d last tym i checkd militants sacked a community in ikorodu, is it niger/delta.?
Why did they run away after killing armless civilians? They should have stayed with the corpse nah. i guess they are cowards
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Nobody: 6:25am On Jul 04, 2016
archdon:

Do u think Niger Delta is the only region in Nigeria dat has oil and gas?
Oil and gas are in other regions too from the shores of Lagos to Lake Chad, the reason they were unexplored is cos the technology to explore them wasn't available when oil was first discovered but now with fracking and other exploration techniques even cheaper than the old ways, depth previously tot to be impossible to reach are now being reached for half the cost.

Why did u even think oil price dropped globally to begin with, it's cos other countries too hv started exploration and the global output surged

Keep blowing up stuffs in the Niger Delta until there is nothing else to blow up.

the reality is the price might drop even further, u do kw they are experimenting with hydrogen as fuel and dats even in more abundance and greener
experimenting ke. Norway which is a giant oil producer is banning sale of all petrol cars completely by 2025. Thats less than 10 years from now. some countries would start drinking their oil soon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/norway-to-ban-the-sale-of-all-fossil-fuel-based-cars-by-2025-and-replace-with-electric-vehicles-a7065616.html

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Nobody: 6:30am On Jul 04, 2016
Izonpikin:
Oya make all the south westerners leave the Mobil, chevron and shell for us make we enter na.... grin....including dpr...them no go gree ...because deep down they know the real deal.... cool


Well I pray for a better Niger delta where development thrives...
This is an excuse used by lazy people. What stops you from going back to Uni to upgrade yourself, so that you can be competitive enough for the oil companies to call for an interview

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Izonpikin: 6:39am On Jul 04, 2016
princey83:

This is an excuse used by lazy people. What stops you from going back to Uni to upgrade yourself, so that you can be competitive enough for the oil companies to call for an interview
oboy. ..do I sound uneducated? ??...

Let all them south westerners come back to lags and work in the almighty dangote refinery and produce the meagre oil underneath the lagos soil... grin


My Bro I am well educated reason why the right time is now to take all jobs and push for real development of the Niger delta...
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Remii(m): 7:41am On Jul 04, 2016
Rolings:


And it seems you are forgetting that not all of Niger delta people are with the Ijaws in this madness called Niger delta avengers. Take out ijaw lands oil and you will realize there still more than enough oil
ogoni has not contributed drop oil into the tank over 15 yrs now and life goes on, the main reason they don't get much allocation though because derivation is according to volume you give into supply. At the end of the day, it's Deltan and Bayelsa that will suffer drop in revenue while Rivers and akwa ibom will open more valves to meet up shortfall unless their own militants the destruction mantra
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Mckennedy: 8:13am On Jul 04, 2016
Mustack:

hahaha you have eyes but you can't see sorry boo.. don't you heard that Lagos have discovered crude oil that is name aje?.. make una continue to dy bomb senseless ppl.

Really? Where's this Aje? Until then I can take you serious.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by koladebrainiac(m): 5:01pm On Jul 04, 2016
Beadex1:
I guess that's why the federal government are neglecting the port Harcourt refinery just To achieve this goal.......continue time will tell
u mean jonathan n pdp refuse to work on it now
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Olabestonic001(m): 5:31pm On Jul 04, 2016
kcnwaigbo:
Lolz where will the oil and gas that will be refined come from? Don't make me laugh too hard please.Shebi Kadunna has a refinery? Is it still getting supplies now?

It will be imported from Guinea Bissau and its environs.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by Mustack: 6:11pm On Jul 04, 2016
Mckennedy:

Really? Where's this Aje? Until then I can take you serious.
google is your friend scum bag undecided
Mckennedy:

Really? Where's this Aje? Until then I can take you serious.
google is your friend scum bag

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by JohnEgba: 11:21am On Oct 29, 2016
The Niger delta had sustained the Nigerian economy for a very long time but suffers injustices and environmental pollution, enslaving her people, coupled with insults from some people in the south west just because d loss of Niger delta region is the gain of lagos, forgetting that by Gods grace, the Niger delta had fed states from the south west in terms of revenue allocations for developmental purpose and payment of workers salaries. what Niger delta region now get from them is insults, instead of sympathy. (u don't bite a finger that had fed u). WELL, IN UR OWN VERY EYES BY GODS GRACE, NIGER DELTA WILL DEVELOP. ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME, JUST LIKE THE LAND Of ISRAEL. After all the God that watch over Israeli never sleep nor slumber, nor is HIS EAR deaf to listen to the plight of the Niger deltans just like the days of Israeli.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by JohnEgba: 12:16pm On Oct 29, 2016
bogolobango:
THE REWARD OF PEACE

Instead of siting the largest $17bn Refinery, Gas and Petrochemical plant in Africa a hostile environment of the Niger-Delta, Aliko Dangote decided to build it in a peaceful Lekki Trade Zone in Lagos state.

It's a business decision. A very commonsense.

Now, what's Lagos state gaining?

1. 135,000 direct employment
2. 100,000 indirect employment
3. State GDP will triple within 3 years.
4. Uninterrupted power supply in Lagos and neighbouring states.
5. 1,000 people of host community will be trained
6. Lagos will be Net Exporter of Petroleum products - propene, petrol, jet fuel, diesel, kerosene, carbon black, polypropylene, etc.
7. Income accruable to the FG of over $50m (N145b) in 3 years.

These are what Lagos is getting for being investor-friendly.

To you Niger Delta Avengers and the rest militant groups, continue to kidnap, gun run, and blow up petroleum pipelines and gas plants. The world is leaving you behind.
well i believed u people from the south west are happy that lagos develops nd problem reign in Niger delta, well by Gods grace, i bet you that in ur own very eyes Niger delta will rise and leapfrog in infrastructural development nd investment nd u will feel ashamed for ur self. The Niger delta region is just like the Israelites in the land of Egypt in those days, while the Israeli wept, crying for justice , the Egyptians busy laughing, rejoicing and scorned them. But glory be to God, how well is the land of Israel today ? maybe u should do the research by urself ! God bless the Niger delta region for blessing her with oil and gas in abundance. God equally bless Nigeria.Amen
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by CSTR13: 12:22pm On Oct 29, 2016
They are happy that Niger-delta is being exploited.
yeye people. Who needs enemies when you have neighbours like these. Tommorrow, they would come and tell us about southern Nigeria.
Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by ba7man(m): 12:24pm On Oct 29, 2016
JohnEgba:
well i believed u people from the south west are happy that lagos develops nd problem reign in Niger delta, well by Gods grace, i bet you that in ur own very eyes Niger delta will rise and leapfrog in infrastructural development nd investment nd u will feel ashamed for ur self. The Niger delta region is just like the Israelites in the land of Egypt in those days, while the Israeli wept, crying for justice , the Egyptians busy laughing, rejoicing and scorned them. But glory be to God, how well is the land of Israel today ? maybe u should do the research by urself ! God bless the Niger delta region for blessing her with oil and gas in abundance. God equally bless Nigeria.Amen
When you celebrate bombing of pipelines and Millitancy, the result is what you have in the Niger Delta.

We choose to celebrate infrastructural development and leadership that has defined goals, the results are evident.

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by ificatchmodeh: 12:34pm On Oct 29, 2016
Atimes I wonder...
Niger delta is loosing..we re not complaining..
Lagos is exporting oil..naija delta no complain..

Avengers bomb facilities..we know complain.

Dangote is building refineries..we still no complain..
Buhari is movin the economy from mono...we no complain..

North is has discovered oil in commercial quantity..we know send neither complain..

Oil will be brought. In from all over the world..we still don't give a Bleep

Employment has all gone to lagos.who sai..

My question..
Why Yourba's the open up thread up and down..on this issues..

What's their business with the creek and it's production

We want our oil..that's all..we don't need dangote..we don't need all those mention..
Free our resources and let us manage it..

There's nothing more noble than being contended with what. You have..

Just don't understand the essence of this thread...bragging about what's not your business.
It's greed.

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Re: Niger-delta's Loss Is Lagos State's Gain. by JohnEgba: 1:02pm On Oct 29, 2016
ba7man:
When you celebrate bombing of pipelines and Millitancy, the result is what you have in the Niger Delta.

We choose to celebrate infrastructural development and leadership that has defined goals, the results are evident.

i still repeat by GODS grace, when justice come, Niger delta will leapfrog in development and investment in ur own very eyes. After all God was not mistaken when he blessed the region with abundance of oil nd gas

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