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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Nobody: 8:12pm On Nov 06, 2016
Tellemall:


As I said, you need to mingle with people who aren't blacks. Then you'll get to understand that the metaphysical is a standard everywhere. Everywhere there are witch hunters.

I said the first person I heard it from. I never said the ONLY person. You didn't notice that because you didn't want to or you simply can't. Says a lot for you.


Who created Halloween? What is a Ouija board used for? You are dancing around these questions. The questions about ghost hunters in the present day that are in your television. What is it they're chasing? Who began taking about vampires, blacks? If they don't exist, why is the talk still ongoing today?

I think you need to do a survey of how many people have had a supernatural encounter and stop your ravings. You haven't actually experienced any of the stuff you postulate. Mingle. It will go a long way.

End of discussion.
and their are people who claim to have alien encounters, claim to be God, Jesus, fairies. people believe a lot of shit

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by felixomor: 8:14pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lennycool:

Ignoramus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pica_(disorder)?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1069557121


U know a shallow person by this.
Pasting link as answers.

Or u think this page explains how somebody can eat and break down a plane.

Ignoramus, pica is the appetite disorder. Nothing else.
And more associated with iron deficiency in pregnancy.
It doesnt explain how any of these people who make their way to book of records are able to breakdown planes, metals or whatever they eat.

Keep deceiving yourself, if u want to learn something.
Learn quietly.
Dont stand on it to back up ur baseless claims.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Tellemall: 8:21pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lennycool:

and their are people who claim to have alien encounters, claim to be God, Jesus, fairies. people believe a lot of shit

OK.

You're not providing a strong discussion here. From your switch to aliens you can see in retrospect why the following three words were used then and will be used again now.

End of discussion.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Nobody: 8:24pm On Nov 06, 2016
felixomor:


U know a shallow person by this.
Pasting link as answers.

Or u think this page explains how somebody can eat and break down a plane.

Ignoramus, pica is the appetite disorder. Nothing else.
And more associated with iron deficiency in pregnancy.
It doesnt explain how any of these people who make their way to book of records are able to breakdown planes, metals or whatever they eat.

Keep deceiving yourself, if u want to learn something.
Learn quietly.
Dont stand on it to back up ur baseless claims.
I said strong stomach and intestine lining was responsible for their protection when eating sharp objects.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by EyeHateGod: 8:28pm On Nov 06, 2016
felixomor:


U know a shallow person by this.
Pasting link as answers.

For Someone that Posted a Link of NDE as a Proof Of AFTERLIFE. grin

You Are just A Hypocrite And Noting Else...

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by jonbellion(m): 8:30pm On Nov 06, 2016
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Tellemall:


They're simply a modern way of what African witch doctors do.

If Africans would create a mechanism or board, we would call it a harmless game, too.

And by the way they are actually real spiritual tools. You need to use one.
lol nawa oo I don't have that kind of time. I haven't experienced amy supernatural phenomenon neither has anyone I know experienced any. What I just hear is anecdotes which were also anecdotes from other people which were also anecdotes for other people. You said something about Ghostbusters. That's a 1984 movie that had a remake during the summer of this year. I don't know any any other "ghost buster" outside the movies apart from ed and Lauraine warren who are basically rip offs
The actual source of the association of Halloween with the dead is the fact that it is, like the name says, the eve of All Hallows Day
It was a roman catholic feast that commemorated the communion of the saint but in modern days it has become more of a secular thing . But as usual christian fundamentalists demonised it.. You know cuz that's what they do demonize everything grin and sad it came from Celtic pagan roots
It's quite strange tho cuz death, resurrection, and the afterlife loom fairly large in Christian belief, and the existence of a holy day meant to call these things to mind seems like something you would expect.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by felixomor: 8:43pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lennycool:


I said strong stomach and intestine lining was responsible for their protection when eating sharp objects.

Quiet, what type of strong?
Why dont u have the strong stomach?
U think its just strong linings that will break down aluminum?

Strong linings has nothing to do with pica by the way.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by felixomor: 8:48pm On Nov 06, 2016
EyeHateGod:

For Someone that Posted a Link of NDE as a Proof Of AFTERLIFE. grin

You Are just A Hypocrite And Noting Else...

Hahaha, because u asked for a link in the first place.

You are just amnesic.
Your memory is short.
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Omooba77: 8:51pm On Nov 06, 2016
Seun is still asking whether they exist or not because he is still trying to locate God. Rebellion is as bad as witchcraft 1 Samuel 15:22-23, Romans1:28

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by EyeHateGod: 8:59pm On Nov 06, 2016
felixomor:


Hahaha, because u asked for a link in the first place.

You are just amnesic.
Your memory is short.
I didn't Ask for a link cheesy
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by felixomor: 9:00pm On Nov 06, 2016
EyeHateGod:

I didn't Ask for a link cheesy

Yeah right.
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Seun(m): 9:11pm On Nov 06, 2016
If you've experienced witchcraft, please share the experience, so we can ask you questions to determine whether you interpreted it correctly.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by jonbellion(m): 9:22pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lol all witchcraft experiences are like this:
Anecdote from someone who heard the anecdote from somebody else who exaggerated somebody else's anecdote who didn't have an anecdote to begin with and whose misinterpreted anecdote was a folklore story from grandma

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by akintom(m): 9:56pm On Nov 06, 2016
plavic:
Seun, You're a skeptical being who although knows the answer but always want to know the thoughts of others about issues.

I am that way too but I will answer your question nonetheless.

Witches are not demons and neither are they spirits as often portrayed by our infamous nolluwood movies.

Rather they are creatures, just like us. Humans who have communion with evil spirits. They plot and trade their crafts by manipulations and deception. If you're seeking for proof to know if witches do exist, you will find none as no gathering of witches will allow you sashay into their coven, taking pictures and vidoes of them or posing for selfies. Such persons will not live to tell the tales.

Witches don't transform into creatures as some believe, rather they have animals they keep as pets such as birds, owls, cats, reptiles etc that they comit their spirits into to move about.(all spirits can possess any body/flesh as long as the life is still in it.)

Let me stop here. Don't train your eyes to believ only what u see


Source please
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Nobody: 10:22pm On Nov 06, 2016
akintom:



Source please

You only give sources if the post was quoted. My post was not quoted but churned from fidings.
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Tellemall: 10:23pm On Nov 06, 2016
jonbellion:
Ilol nawa oo I don't have that kind of time. I haven't experienced amy supernatural phenomenon neither has anyone I know experienced any. What I just hear is anecdotes which were also anecdotes from other people which were also anecdotes for other people. You said something about Ghostbusters. That's a 1984 movie that had a remake during the summer of this year. I don't know any any other "ghost buster" outside the movies apart from ed and Lauraine warren who are basically rip offs
The actual source of the association of Halloween with the dead is the fact that it is, like the name says, the eve of All Hallows Day
It was a roman catholic feast that commemorated the communion of the saint but in modern days it has become more of a secular thing . But as usual christian fundamentalists demonised it.. You know cuz that's what they do demonize everything grin and sad it came from Celtic pagan roots
It's quite strange tho cuz death, resurrection, and the afterlife loom fairly large in Christian belief, and the existence of a holy day meant to call these things to mind seems like something you would expect.

There are other ghost busters. Ghost hunters. People who hunt for the Paranormal. They are all-over the place.

You don't need to depend on "anecdotes" or other people's experiences. Simply buy a Ouija. Or meet up with a Wiccan.

Samhain is supposedly the origin of Halloween, not Catholicism. The original thing has nothing to do with Christianity. But then, most people will tell you that it's a modern celebration. Every culture in the world has its angels, witches, saints, demons, etc.

I don't think there's much else to say. But the issue of existence of witchcraft...Well, if there are things like good luck there will be the bad one. If there are angels there will be demons. Life has a duality.

Most people who don't believe in the spiritual/paranormal are in denial. Logic doesn't explain such things. Eg. Some guy said he woke up with thin razor lines on his body. Logical people told him that he had pins in his bed. But if he did sew things, he would've first ruled that out. Then there were gecko and spider theories, which are just unbelievable. Nothing can explain that. Nothing that logic and science will tell you.

It's not my job to convince people, but a little thought to it when scientific explanations get ridiculous points to the things that are unseen.

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Tellemall: 10:25pm On Nov 06, 2016
Seun:
If you've experienced witchcraft, please share the experience, so we can ask you questions to determine whether you interpreted it correctly.

Why are you so scared to experience it on your own for yourself?

Is there any point condemning the experiences of others to sate your rigid views in the face of what you can't rationalize or explain away in science?

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by akintom(m): 10:48pm On Nov 06, 2016
plavic:


You only give sources if the post was quoted. My post was not quoted but churned from fidings.


Not again now.

Findings means - RESEARCH FINDS!

Don't you know you must reference your SOURCE of findings?
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by raphieMontella: 11:10pm On Nov 06, 2016
Acidosis:


This man sha


You mean those running to T.B Joshua do so to waste their time?

How much is T.B Joshua paying for the so called tricks? You mean, foreigners leave their countries to witness T.B Joshua's faked tricks? Even African footballers and nollywood actors like Jim Iyke were paid by T.B Joshua to act as demons.


Ignorance is truly a disease.

@the bolded..i think you're the ignorant person here...
What does an actor do?
play a role and get paid
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by ujiriukiri(m): 11:32pm On Nov 06, 2016
I bet they also believe in Superman, Thor and rest of the superheroes whose comics I grew up reading undecided
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by ujiriukiri(m): 11:34pm On Nov 06, 2016
raphieMontella:

@the bolded..i think you're the ignorant person here...
What does an actor do?
play a role and get paid

Good one grin
They just type, they skip the thinking part undecided

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Nobody: 11:34pm On Nov 06, 2016
Seun:
...please share with me the evidence you've come across that has convinced you that witchcraft is real. Thanks.
I have no solid experience. It just makes no sense to me (since my teenage age).

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Nobody: 11:38pm On Nov 06, 2016
plavic:
Seun, You're a skeptical being who although knows the answer but always want to know the thoughts of others about issues.

I am that way too but I will answer your question nonetheless.

Witches are not demons and neither are they spirits as often portrayed by our infamous nolluwood movies.

Rather they are creatures, just like us. Humans who have communion with evil spirits. They plot and trade their crafts by manipulations and deception. If you're seeking for proof to know if witches do exist, you will find none as no gathering of witches will allow you sashay into their coven, taking pictures and vidoes of them or posing for selfies. Such persons will not live to tell the tales.

Witches don't transform into creatures as some believe, rather they have animals they keep as pets such as birds, owls, cats, reptiles etc that they comit their spirits into to move about.(all spirits can possess any body/flesh as long as the life is still in it.)

Let me stop here. Don't train your eyes to believ only what u see
akintom:

Source please
Source: Nollywood Yoruba
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by McIroncock: 11:42pm On Nov 06, 2016
TOmmyJidex:
Source: Nollywood Yoruba
I've forgotten the title of the film but I've watched it before
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by raphieMontella: 11:54pm On Nov 06, 2016
jonbellion:
actually before Ouija boards were seen as a harmless parlor game. Their association with Spiritualism didn't take off until World War I, when one Pearl Cullan started saying that it could be used to contact spirits
very harmless parlor game...
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by AlPeter: 2:11am On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:
The fear of witchcraft is directly linked to the general education of the populous. The more educated the population of an area is the less witches they perceive and vice versa.
Africans think they are the ones that started witch hunting. But the truth is compared to the Europeans we were all learners, yes the white people once believed strongly in witchcraft. The Malleus Maleficarum translated as The hammer of witches is arguably the most damning text in all of literature. Written in 1486 by Catholic Inquisitors, it prescribed how to kill, torture and identify witches. And for almost 200 years it was the best selling book second only to the Bible. The book with sponsorship from the Pope killed tens of thousands of women accused of witchcraft.
But today people in Europe are smarter and no one talks of witches again. Why?
Education my friends is a mind opener.
ask the right questions and you'll get the right answer. The right question is, why did the Europeans, Asians, Africans, Native Americans (generally the ancients) believe in witchcraft, even amongst people who could not have been influenced due to isolation? Start genuinely trying to answer this simple question without jumping to conclusion

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by jonbellion(m): 2:20am On Nov 07, 2016
AlPeter:
ask the right questions and you'll get the right answer. The right question is, why did the Europeans, Asians, Africans, Native Americans (generally the ancients) believe in witchcraft, even amongst people who could not have been influenced due to isolation? Start genuinely trying to answer this simple question without jumping to conclusion
I think the problem was ignorance. After all the Aztecs used to rip beating hearts out of people every morning just to supposedly make the sun rise

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by AlPeter: 2:21am On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:


I said strong stomach and intestine lining was responsible for their protection when eating sharp objects.
seriously? Strong stomach? And you can believe that?

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by AlPeter: 3:31am On Nov 07, 2016
jonbellion:
I think the problem was ignorance. After all the Aztecs used to rip beating hearts out of people every morning just to supposedly make the sun rise
NOPE, you'r jumping to conclusions, it doesn't explain why the Aztecs and every other people then believes in the metaphysical despite not knowing about each other. also there are ignorant acts associated with witchcraft doesn't make it unreal. Think cc seun
Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by oyeludef(m): 5:16am On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:

Then why have the Europeans left it?
Why has all the developed countries left it?
Why is it only in the midst of illiteracy and poverty do we find people hunting for witches?
left wat? Witchcraft is openly practiced today in the western world.astrology, Fortune telling, reading of tarrot card, gazing into crystal ball are common practice over there. U walk into a witch shop just like you would walk into a barber shop over here

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by oyeludef(m): 5:23am On Nov 07, 2016
Seun:
No, I don't believe in supernatural powers. People who claim to have such powers tend to be exposed as frauds when they are investigated.
do u believe in psychics? Even discover channel dat is a purely scientific channel has psychic programs, police in some parts of USA engage psychics during investigation wen dey lack enough clues /evidence to locate a criminal

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Re: Do Witches & Wizards Exist? I Don't Think So! by Acidosis(m): 5:28am On Nov 07, 2016
raphieMontella:

@the bolded..i think you're the ignorant person here...
What does an actor do?
play a role and get paid

No, you and your likes are the ignorant ones. Best you could do is sit behind your computer and say trash about things you don't know. There are over 500,000 Churches and deliverance centres in Nigeria.

Wouldn't it be better you visit just one and watch how deliverance services are conducted?


You lots are simply being s!lly for denying the truths you know. How would someone just assume every one are being paid to "act", act for who? to convince who?


It is indeed a s!lly submission (a consequence of 'un-exposure'). People get shots daily and their skins become impenetrable. A lot of times, I've witnessed how cutlasses fail to penetrate skins during a yearly traditional festival at Abraka, Delta state. I schooled there, so I know. You don't know because you're ignorant, unexposed to events around you, and never want to know. So you guys can continue to dwell in your unbelief as nobody can help you.

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