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Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by EternalTruths: 9:33pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
I am not a Syrian, I am not a Libyan, I don't give a damn. Beside, I am only after the interest of Nigeria.
You are funny and ignorant

Have you forgotten the negative influence of Clinton on Obama's government against Jonathan's government.


Go back and ask questions angry
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Everyone pays attention including me, but READ AND COMPREHEND the op, stop acting like you have opinion.

So how does that grant you privilege to participate in USA electoral process ? Dude, you have no opinion as long as their affairs is concerned
I cant believe you are not ashamed to continue this thread.

Young man, have you heard that the world is a global village ? I and many other people consider ourselves citizens of the world. Some of us have investments in other countries and we really care who manages the global economy and global politics. I can understand that you are stucked here so your view of events are parochial and localized. I am again, asking you to put blanket on your reasoning. We are not the same. I am not on your bracket and you are not on mine. Even your politicians run to the West every now and then for advise. We are bothered about global leadership and who and who has access to the nuclear weapons. So please, I know your concern is about food, shelter and clothings so Nigerian leadership is all you are birthed to swallow. As for me and other Nigerians, we know what America represent, and we believe with time, you will realize how ignorant this your opinion is.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by EternalTruths: 9:35pm On Nov 07, 2016
loopman:
Who is feeding you lot with this fear factor ?
I am not ignorant like you.

Check more on Libya and Syria

Who did you think influence Obama's government not to tag BH a Foreign Terrorist Organization.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by golddust6000(m): 9:36pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:
USA is the leadership of planet earth, if you are on earth and you are not interested in the leadership of the earth, then you are ignorant of the real history of the planet and the direction of the dynamics. The cosmos influence that determines the direction of the planet is a geared towards global leadership. And not some third world ignorant Presidents. I dont even remember tuning to Nigeria TV station in the last many years. Everyone I know tune to CNN and Sky News. I no get lever to tune to Nigerian TV, their English even annoys me big time. They wear funny caps inside house and the women wear hijab. What a confused country. Who wears cap indoors if not bunch of morons.

We are not sovereign yet, so dont blame people who need hope.
you have spoken like a retarded idiot. And who told you american is super power?? Is that the reason why they are pokenosing on affair that doesnt concern them? To hell with america, most americans think life begins and end there! Grow up
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:38pm On Nov 07, 2016
Billyonaire:
I cant believe you are not ashamed to continue this thread.

Young man, have you heard that the world is a global village ? I and many other people consider ourselves citizens of the world.
Everybody is a global citizen, but everyone knows his father's compoubnd.

Some of us have investments in other countries and we really care who manages the global economy and global politics. I can understand that you are stucked here so your view of events are parochial and localized. I am again, asking you to put blanket on your reasoning. We are not the same. I am not on your bracket and you are not on mine.
All Hail the e-Dangote. Keep kwayet, real billionaires have no time with irrelevances. I understand that you wish to be one, I pray you become one.

Even your politicians run to the West every now and then for advise. We are bothered about global leadership and who and who has access to the nuclear weapons. So please, I know your concern is about food, shelter and clothings so Nigerian leadership is all you are birthed to swallow. As for me and other Nigerians, we know what America represent, and we believe with time, you will realize how ignorant this your opinion is.
The fact remains that you don't have ANY opinion outside affairs in Nigeria.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Nov 07, 2016
I enjoy discussing US politics and foreign affairs like some choose to discuss football, golf, chess or gossip. Our choices don't cross boarder but our opinions not only Nigeria but from around the world do, all thanks to the internet. It is however a daft action to donate monies for a candidate who does not see the good in ur country.

I won't support Hillary's decision of declaring a no fly zone in Syria, Russia may turn out to be instrumental in causing world war.

Aborting babes on the day of their delivery or close to is unfair, since we imitate most of their strange beliefs, their decisions may influence ours.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:41pm On Nov 07, 2016
EternalTruths:
I am not ignorant like you.

Check more on Libya and Syria

Who did you think influence Obama's government not to tag BH a Foreign Terrorist Organization.
cheesy cheesy cheesy @emboldened, though America tagged BH FTO, the most important is how our government handled the sect.

As for Libya snd Syria, I dont give a damn.

As for America, your opinion doesn't matter. Whoever emerges is their business
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 9:42pm On Nov 07, 2016
EternalTruths:
I am not ignorant like you.

Check more on Libya and Syria

Who did you think influence Obama's government not to tag BH a Foreign Terrorist Organization.
It's is pathetic when an arrogant person claims to know what he doesn't know, it's horrible when an arrogant person believe in his own ignorance
You are embodiment of the later
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by EternalTruths: 9:46pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
cheesy cheesy cheesy @emboldened, though America tagged BH FTO, the most important is how our government handled the sect.

As for Libya snd Syria, I dont give a damn.

As for America, your opinion doesn't matter. Whoever emerges is their business
You are wrong.

Clinton frustrated the desire of Jonathan to see BH tagged FTO for a long time

Whom do you think influenced Obama's government to frustrate Jonathan from buying weapons from our Western allies that forced Jonathan to go to the black market
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by EternalTruths: 9:47pm On Nov 07, 2016
loopman:
It's is pathetic when an arrogant person claims to know what he doesn't know, it's horrible when an arrogant person believe in his own ignorance
You are embodiment of the later
Stop trying to be smart by half

Libya and Syria are in ruins today all thanks to Clinton.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody:
TonyeBarcanista:
Everybody is a global citizen, but everyone knows his father's compoubnd.

All Hail the e-Dangote. Keep kwayet, real billionaires have no time with irrelevances. I understand that you wish to be one, I pray you become one.

The fact remains that you don't have ANY opinion outside affairs in Nigeria.
These show how timid you are. You agree you are a global citizen yet you are so ignorant about monitoring the emergence of global leadership. I have no problems with a man remaining ignorant, but what bothers me is when you try to impose the blanket of ignorance on others who have free will. What a cave man this is.

To really believe billionaires dont come online and do not interact does show another level of your stupidity. I repeat, some of us have investments outside of this ceasepit and even in the USA. We have relatives, friends and wives, and kids and we bother about who occupies the seat of govt in USA.

As human beings, we also care who Americans give access to nuclear weapons, so we form opinions, we influence opinions and we do whatever it takes to make sure no unreasonable person occupies the global seat of power.

Like I said earlier, you are a very ignorant person, and I have seen your picture on the blog, you can not stand in my face in real life, cos my little cousins that I groom are better off than you in every ramifications.

Go and sit down!
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Kingsley1000(m): 9:51pm On Nov 07, 2016
trump is surely gonna triumph
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 9:57pm On Nov 07, 2016
EternalTruths:
Stop trying to be smart by half

Libya and Syria are in ruins today all thanks to Clinton.
I don't give a damn about Libya or Syria. You all wish that the avengers can help you do the same, like your idiotic leader in Kuje promised to make Nigeria a child's play when compared to Somali
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by patrickmuf(m): 9:58pm On Nov 07, 2016
This post reeks of naivety and timidity...In the OP's desire to sound politically correct, he tries to reduce the significance of the event in question to an election concerning those who are to be voted for, eligible to vote or are Americans when in fact it is a global affair because America's foreign policy has far reaching consequences of which Nigeria isn't immune to.
I know it's a good strategy to once in a while have or present a different argument/view but when you do it for the sake of it, you come across as timid.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Nov 07, 2016
loopman:
I don't give a damn about Libya or Syria. You all wish that the avengers can help you do the same, like your idiotic leader in Kuje promised to make Nigeria a child's play when compared to Somali
U don't care about Lybia and Syria? U lack simple logic of correct reasoning.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 10:16pm On Nov 07, 2016
LARRYDKING:
U don't care about Lybia and Syria? U lack simple logic of correct reasoning.
I'm sure you don't even know where Syria is located if given a map to point to Syria.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Nov 07, 2016
patrickmuf:
This post reeks of naivety and timidity...In the OP's desire to sound politically correct, he tries to reduce the significance of the event in question to an election concerning those who are to be voted for, eligible to vote or are Americans when in fact it is a global affair because America's foreign policy has far reaching consequences of which Nigeria isn't immune to.
I know it's a good strategy to once in a while have or present a different argument/view but when you do it for the sake of it, you come across as timid.
At a point were Americans are stuck in a dilemma of choosing a lesser evil, the grave consequences of their decision as it affects the world comes to mind. Whether we are enfranchised or otherwise doesn't matter, what matter is our opinions that count, however, not our vote this time.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by omenka(m): 10:25pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
This is a one million kobo question. Nigerians always like to be involved in things that doesn't concern them. Some are even taking it on their head even when they have neither visited local or international airport not to talk of travelling to the USA.
The most idiotic indicator of this nonsense adventure was a thread about Nairalanders' opinion poll about the election on the fp.

I really don't get it. What the hell is our business??

Anyone who thinks any president who emerges would take any African country's affair as a top priority in terms of rendering assistance is only fooling themselves.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 10:28pm On Nov 07, 2016
loopman:
I'm sure you don't even know where Syria is located if given a map to point to Syria.
grin What a daft creature. That explains why u "don't give a damn" because u're so empty and ur unruly and unwilling behaviour won't allow u learn any "damn" thing.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by loopman: 10:32pm On Nov 07, 2016
LARRYDKING:
grin What a daft creature. That explains why u "don't give a damn" because u're so empty and ur unruly and unwilling behaviour won't allow u learn any "damn" thing.
When you Igbos don't have a way out of an arguement you resort to your default mode, insult to wriggle your way out. Speaks volume of your brain matter.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by omenka(m): 10:36pm On Nov 07, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
You are arguing off point. I can assure you that you are not following global politics more than me, but unlike you, I follow to keep abreast on events in the world and not to give irrelevant opinion that is of no effect anywhere. You are not a American, you are not a resident of America, you have no business in America, you have no job in America, you are not an American attachee or voter, yet you hide in your apartment in Nigeria to disturb the peace of Nigerians about some candidates in America like your opinion matters. Haba!


You see why I said you are emotional and not logical, that I am saying that BNigerians should mind their business because we have no opinion in America now means I hate America? Dude, you need to start growing up. It is never too late.


Lol, Mr Chestbeater, honestly, you know NOTHING about global events. Anyway, the koko is that YOU HAVE NO OPINION in America Affairs.

Stop acting like you have one. In fact, your existence is of no value to any American.
Na real "Mr Chestbeater". Most of these guys have never even ventured out of their immediate locality let alone travel out yet they come online to rant about what they know nothing about.

Uncle Sam isn't done fixing the blacks vs whites issues in their own country yet some deluded fools believe a Trump win will automatically make their idiotic dreams come true.

How could someone who doesn't even have the right to vote think their opinion matter in an election in a distant country??

Even Canadians themselves no dey carry the election matter for head the way these our domestic ignoramuses dey carry am.

Wish God can just have mercy on them and bless them with a little token of wisdom. cry
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 10:36pm On Nov 07, 2016
I AM WITH HER
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 10:43pm On Nov 07, 2016
loopman:
When you Igbos don't have a way out of an arguement you resort to your default mode, insult to wriggle your way out. Speaks volume of your brain matter.
Foolishly, u think I'm Igbo because we share diverse believe. FYI, I'm a proud native of Ogun state. I can feel it strongly that u're so empty, pls keep abreast of thing going on around the world and stop being a nuisance to urself.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:25pm On Nov 07, 2016
omenka:
Na real "Mr Chestbeater". Most of these guys have never even ventured out of their immediate locality let alone travel out yet they come online to rant about what they know nothing about.

Uncle Sam isn't done fixing the blacks vs whites issues in their own country yet some deluded fools believe a Trump win will automatically make their idiotic dreams come true.

How could someone who doesn't even have the right to vote think their opinion matter in an election in a distant country??

Even Canadians themselves no dey carry the election matter for head the way these our domestic ignoramuses dey carry am.

Wish God can just have mercy on them and bless them with a little token of wisdom. cry
Amen at your prayer.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:25pm On Nov 07, 2016
omenka:
The most idiotic indicator of this nonsense adventure was a thread about Nairalanders' opinion poll about the election on the fp.

I really don't get it. What the hell is our business??

Anyone who thinks any president who emerges would take any African country's affair as a top priority in terms of rendering assistance is only fooling themselves.
Same way they did for Obama, Obama emerged and could't even stop over to say hello to them. Yeye
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by joephemzyz(m): 12:07am On Nov 08, 2016
Charity begins at home!
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by buffalowings: 12:55am On Nov 08, 2016
It seems like people here are blinded by what they see on cnn.
But if you think critically, you will feel for working class Americans.

What they have now is 'kinda' similar to when Ghanaians came in droves to Nigeria. We all know how it ended.


They have a right to choose what's best for them.
I don't have a right to tell them what is best for them.

Since we have been suckling up to Obama, what have we gained? O, yes I got inspired that I could be anything I want to be angry

We should be more concerned about ourselves.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by buffalowings: 12:59am On Nov 08, 2016
Hillary will win

But just for the laughs I would like to see trump win cheesy grin grin
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by Nobody: 1:03am On Nov 08, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
On August 11, 2008, Madam Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, the Chairperson of Nigeria Stock Exchange organised a fundraising dinner to support United States Presidential hopeful and Democrat Nominee, Senator Barrack Obama. In the said event that was help in Lagos, more than $630,000 (N94.5 Million) was raised to support Obama's candidacy. This event was held WITHOUT approval of Mr Obama, and also it was against the laws of America. Organisers held the event at a point when the average Nigeria could not boast of $2 in a day. In fact, Obama eventually won, but Nigeria got no special benefit of his Presidency. He was elected as the President of United States of America, and not anywhere else.

Like 2008, Nigerians are now concerned about the forthcoming USA Presidential contest between Republican nominee Donald Trump and Democrat Nominee Hilary Clinton.

In fact, I have seen various facebook pages, whatsapp groups and those of other forum run by Nigerians to solicit support for either of the candidates. It is ironical that most of these Clinton/Trump campaigners have never left the shores of Nigeria since they were born not to talk of possessing the right to vote in America. Some of them that are residents in America are either temporal residents or illegal residents. The negligible few that are citizens of America don't disturb the peace of Nigerians with the Trump/Clinton noise as they are concerned with their lives there.

It was laughable to read a piece that quoted Prof Wole Soyinka of threateing to destroy his American Green Card should Trump get elected. I laughed and ask, does Soyinka opinion or emotional feelngs now important in the scheme of things in America? Of what value is his Green Card to the American economy or even an average American? "na who even know Soyinka for America? Which American has his Green card helped for him to assume that Americans will be swayed by his emotional preference?

Though I am not for spiting Wole Soyinka or any Nigerian, but I think it is embarrassing for Nigerians to leave important pressing issues at home front just to appear important by joining the American campaign when their sermon are targeted at Nigerians with no single voting value in America. Beside, the emergence of either candidate will not help Nigeria out of recession. Americans are for America's interest, Nigerians should concern about Nigeria's interest.

A friend once told me that USA election affects the world, my reply to him was, same with the election of Nigeria, but should USA make wrong decision, they will bear the consequences and go down for another to rise. Same is applicable to every countries.

Finally my compatriots, let the truth be told, our opinion as Nigerians and non America citizens DOES NOT count in the American election. Let us at least learn to mind our business. I will end with two portions of the Bible:

"Interfering in someone else’s argument is as foolish as yanking a dog’s ears."- Proverbs 26:17

"Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before."- 1 Thessalonians 4:11



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Do you know the magnitude of trade that goes on btw Nigeria and the USA. Do you realise that the US president's stance on importation of Oil can affect Nigeria a whole lot( remember what happened when the US stopped buying our crude). Also his position on immigration can greatly affect Nigerian students there( hundreds of thousands of both undergraduate and graduate students) and can also affect ease of doing business in the US by Nigerians. The truth is that the US President is a global citizen, he is most likely the most powerful individual on the planet, his policies affect developing Nations like Nigeria. Why do you think European and Asian news networks keenly follow the US elections, afterall their citizens can't vote in the US also. I see your point though, sometimes Nigerians like to interlope in other peoples affairs.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by buffalowings: 1:11am On Nov 08, 2016
Of what consequences is us elections going to have on me ajepako.

undecided
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by buffalowings: 1:29am On Nov 08, 2016
Billyonaire:
USA is the leadership of planet earth, if you are on earth and you are not interested in the leadership of the earth, then you are ignorant of the real history of the planet and the direction of the dynamics. The cosmos influence that determines the direction of the planet is a geared towards global leadership. And not some third world ignorant Presidents. I dont even remember tuning to Nigeria TV station in the last many years. Everyone I know tune to CNN and Sky News. I no get liver to tune to Nigerian TV, their English even annoys me big time. They wear funny caps inside house and the women wear hijab. What a confused country. Who wears cap indoors if not bunch of morons.

We are not sovereign yet, so dont blame people who need hope.
I don't know you.

You've been making sense but what you post here shows you're narrow minded

There are always two sides to a story

I don't think I need to lecture you on America media houses divide

You say you watch cnn. Well there are millions more that only watch fox news

Journalism is not about reporting thing truthfully. It is about reporting things not outrightly wrong while spinning it to suit your agenda.
Re: Trump Vs Clinton: When Did Nigerians Start Having Opinion In American Politics? by psychu:
@op while I enjoy reading your analysis sometimes, but you have shown ignorance in world politics and economy on this one. And ignorance is not a crime!

First, the US is the most powerful nation on the earth. What happens there affects everyone. Their policies have overbearing influence on the whole world and sets the tone for other leaders around the world.

Nigeria has a large population of both documented and illegal immigrants in the US, these guys contribute billions of dollars yearly in foreign remittances to Nigeria. The fx helps CBN a lot, if not we will be worse off today. A candidate like Trump will champion polices that will ensure those staying illegally are deported... many families here will be affected. Even the ones that have legal stay will have issues with a Trump's presidency as America will become more like the UK, it will only be when there is no American available to do the job that you can give a foreigner the job. Like what is obtainable in Canada, many of the engineers and doctors in US who are not citizens and who are supporting Trump will turn to cab drivers!

Again, some candidates like Clinton might be too extreme in their foreign policy drive.
I don't see her pursuing a different agenda from the disaster they caused in middle east. Nigeria is equally very unstable, a candidate like Trump will not care how we sort ourselves out or if we eventually disintegrate While Clinton will likely support unity if PMB continue to do their bidding.

Did you not read in the news how we had millions of barrels of unsold crude oil during Obama's first tenure? Did his energy policy of pursuing cleaner energy and self sufficiency in energy affect us or not? Did US not slash the barrels of oil that they buy from us before we started looking for other markets? What of gays? I am sure if you were gay, you will support Clinton because she will continue to put global pressure for the recognition of gay rights as Obama did and recorded huge successes.

The list goes on, but this is where you can start thinking of it from. Anyone or nation has the right to champion a candidate that will help their cause.
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