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MEN OF WAR. .

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Hey! Mr man, pull down this shit you paste here. This is a military thread not some 'cartoon network'. You feel me?

GUYS WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THESE COMPARISON.....



Military power comparison results for Egypt vs. Israel.

EGYPT;

ISRAELI;

RESULTS

GFP Rank:

12 (of 126)

16 (of 126)

Total Population:

88,487,396

8,049,314

Manpower Available:

42,000,000

3,600,000

Fit-for-Service:

35,306,000

3,000,000

Reaching Military Age Annually:

1,535,000

122,000

Active Military Personnel:

470,000

160,000

Active Military Reserves:

800,000

630,000

Aircraft (All Types):

1,133

681

Attack Helicopters:

46

48

Attack Aircraft (Fixed-Wing):

427

243

Fighter Aircraft:

336

243

Trainer Aircraft:

387

245

Transport Aircraft:

260

101

Serviceable Airports:

83

47

CONTINUATION


Tank Strength:

4,624

4,170

AFV Strength:

13,949

10,185

Towed Artillery:

2,360

300

Merchant Marine Strength:

67

8

Major Ports / Terminals:

7

4

External Debt (USD):

$41,320,000,000

$96,160,000,000

Annual Defense Budget (USD):

$4,400,000,000

$15,600,000,000

Reserves Foreign Exchange / Gold (USD):

$17,050,000,000

$91,610,000,000

Purchasing Power Parity:

$946,600,000,000

$272,100,000,000

Labor Force:

27,900,000

3,778,000

Oil Production (Barrels/Day):

478,400 bbl

400 bbl

Oil Consumption (Barrels/Day):

740,000 bbl

240,000 bbl

Proven Oil Reserves (Barrels/Day):

4,400,000,000 bbl

13,950,000 bbl

Roadway Coverage (km):

65,050 km

18,290 km

Railway Coverage (km):

5,083 km

975 km

Waterway Coverage (km):

3,500 km

0 km

Coastline Coverage (km):

2,450 km

273 km

Shared Borders (km):

2,612 km

1,068 km

Square Land Area (km):

1,001,450 km

20,770 km

Sources: CIA.gov, CIA World Factbook, wikipedia.com, public domain print and media sources and user contributions. Some values may be estimated when official sources are lacking.

SOURCE :
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=egypt&country2=israel&Submit=COMPARE


My question his these, in the eventuality of war who would win?

#SBSC.

bidexiii:
SOURCE :
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=egypt&country2=israel&Submit=COMPARE


My question his these, in the eventuality of war who would win?

Wars are not won like that. Numbers on paper don't mean sh*t when actual combat begins. Like in 1976, the Israelis would use the Arabs to mop the floor again.

Same thing in the "6 day war".


In 76, the numbers were stacked against Israel, men and equipment. The Israelis took on Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, yet the Israelis still came out on top.

bidexiii:
SOURCE :
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=egypt&country2=israel&Submit=COMPARE


My question his these, in the eventuality of war who would win?

Well theyve locked horns on several occasions with Egypt always pulling numbers on everything, and on all occasions Israel successfully used the egyptians and their larger coalition for proper sanitation duties.
Cant say who is winning but i know where my money is

bidexiii:
SOURCE :
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=egypt&country2=israel&Submit=COMPARE


My question his these, in the eventuality of war who would win?

The battles will be tough but the war is Israels.

In any case of War,israel can afford to upgrade all her weapons to their full capacity.Egypt also might pull some weighty stuffs,but in no time they would know why it's good to be a little bit independent.

The israeli armed forces has an impressive arsenal.
The jews are all over the world,and one of their main service to their nation is to return home to fight when their is war or send monies.


Whats your take on Israel vs Iran.i actually thought by now shit would've happened between em two.

CAPTAINS ON THE FRONTLINES

Independent Military Sources are Confirming that the
6 Division in the South has been activated and will be known as the 6 Amphibious division.

The Premium Times which has proved itself to be unreliable/reliable in the past has an article stating that Nigeria and Russia have signed an MOU
The MOU was signed between a Minister and the No2.of the Russian Embassy
Areas to be covered include Agriculture, Defence and Farming.
Defence will include Procurement and training the picture included was that of a T90,Logical assumption will include this to be a follow-up to the visit by the Defense Minister this year where agreement was reached for more procurement on Rocketry and Spare parts,this MOU most likely would include training for Tankers.
It is being reported since yesterday that one of the largest mass surrender of recently recruited BH terrorists in the Lake Chad Axis has occurred to the Chadian authorities.
Specific reasons for the surrender has not been given , however it is believed that Overwhelming pressure from the MNJTF could be one of the reasons, another reason could be the presence of the Nigerian Navy on Lake Chad as well as NN SBS personnel now stationed permanently in the area.

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LTGEN:
The Premium Times which has proved itself to be unreliable/reliable in the past has an article stating that Nigeria and Russia have signed an MOU
The MOU was signed between a Minister and the No2.of the Russian Embassy
Areas to be covered include Agriculture, Defence and Farming.
Defence will include Procurement and training the picture included was that of a T90,Logical assumption will include this to be a follow-up to the visit by the Defense Minister this year where agreement was reached for more procurement on Rocketry and Spare parts,this MOU most likely would include training for Tankers.
It is being reported since yesterday that one of the largest mass surrender of recently recruited BH terrorists in the Lake Chad Axis has occurred to the Chadian authorities.
Specific reasons for the surrender has not been given , however it is believed that Overwhelming pressure from the MNJTF could be one of the reasons, another reason could be the presence of the Nigerian Navy on Lake Chad as well as NN SBS personnel now stationed permanently in the area.

Time will tell but I trust the present military administration.

We have to graduate from these present T72 to T90.

LTGEN:
Independent Military Sources are Confirming that the
6 Division in the South has been activated and will be known as the 6 Amphibious division.

Indications have emerged in Abuja that the Federal Government has given approval for the establishment of 6 Amphibious Division of Nigerian Army for the South-South, with its headquarters would be based in Port Harcourt, Rivers State. Already, the division, which will have components of artillery, infantry and armoured units as part of its operational order and composition, has a GOC appointed as its inaugural commander

The new General Officer Commanding the 6 Division of the Nigerian Army is Major-General K. I. Abdulkarim. Abdukarim was until his appointment, the General Officer Commanding 2 Division of the Nigerian Army, Ibadan. The take-off of the 6 Division brings the number of Army divisions in the country to nine.  They include 81 Division, Lagos; 82 Division, Enugu;  1 Division, Kaduna; 2 Division, Ibadan; 3 Division, Jos; 7 Division, Maiduguri; and 8 Division for the areas bordering Lake Chad, Cameroon and Niger. Vanguard gathered that the appointment of the GOC 6 Division followed a major shakeup in Army High Command carried out by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt.- General Tukur Buratai. The shakeup resulted in the appointment of three new General Officers Commanding for the Nigerian Army. They are Major-General Oyefolu, GOC 81 Division, Lagos; Brigadier General CM Abraham is the Acting GOC  2 Division, Ibadan, and Major General Abdukarim for 6 Division, which will be based in Port Harcourt. Other major appointments include that of a new Chief of Operations and Training for the Nigerian Army. He is Major General DD Ahmadu. He takes over from Major General H Umaru. Major General H Umaru has been posted as the Commandant of the Training and Doctrine Command in Niger State. A new Chief of Operations and Training has also been appointed for the Defence Headquarters. He is Major General Ahmed Mohammed. Until his new appointment, Major General Mohammed was the Commandant, Infantry Centre in Jaji, Kaduna. Major General OO Adeleke is the new Commandant, Nigerian Army Engineers, Major General IH Edet is the new Commandant, Infantry Centre, Jaji. He was formerly the General Officer Commanding 81 division, Lagos. Major General KC Duru is the new Commandant, Nigerian Army College of Logistics, Major General IM AlkalI is the new Director, Veterans Affairs at Defence headquarters, Major General M Mohammed is the new Chief of Army Standards and Evaluation. Some Generals who were seconded to ASCON, the Administrative Staff College of Nigeria, Badagry are Major General PA Falolu-ASCON, Major Gen Ndiomu-ASCON, Major General ECN Obi, ASCON. For the Brigadier Generals, Brig General OU Obono from Department of Army Training and Operation to NACA, Brig General Jalingo-Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence, Brig General Agundu is the new Director, Foreign Liaison, at Defence Intelligence Agency; Brig General Ude is moved to Nigerian Army Technology Innovation Center. Brig I Garba, is the Brigade Commander, 4 Brigade Benin, Brigadier General GK Nwosu, Commander 1 Brigade, Sokoto, Brig General KO Aligbe while Commander 16 Brigade.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/11/fg-approves-take-off-of-nigerian-armys-6-div-for-s-south/

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bidexiii:
SOURCE :
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=egypt&country2=israel&Submit=COMPARE


My question his these, in the eventuality of war who would win?

War is not in the number but the tactics and doctrine deployed.
*The Isaelis can deal with any threat. In a war scenario with Egypt, Israel will surely triumph because most of their equipments are locally built and are suited to their requirement.
*They still get one of the best soldiers in the ME and can muster their citizens to fight....that's the loyalty that you can't find in Egypt. Most(if not ALL) Israelis went through military training and there's this lovea nd respect that every citizens displayed to their armed forces.
*Israel is armed with Nukes(just incase everything is going south)
*You're not also considering that Israel still get one of the finest Air Defense System to deal with threats from Low-Medium-High levels.
*Israel IMO is the only country in the world that had a LIVE/ACTIVE battle testing station---palestine is the testing station for all their weapons, just like they used the few days war with Hamas to test the effectiveness, efficiency and efficacy of Iron Dome Batteries.
*One other leverage is that the Israelis won't be importing ammunitions(except for extreme situations) unlike their egyptian counterpart(though they too had a running complex but not on par with the israelis) as their military industrial complex can sustain them in a war time.
Egypt will give the Isrealis a good fight but Israel will give them a bloody nose.
No one wants war because the citizens are the one that suffer most.

bidexiii:
CAPTAINS ON THE FRONTLINES

The second dude is a B.Sc (Hons) graduate from the University of Ibadan in Economics. Last time I spoke with him, he was just a full Lieutenant.

bidexiii:


Time will tell but I trust the present military administration.

We have to graduate from these present T72 to T90.

T-72s are fine. There are TONS of upgrade packages for the T-72. Am just not sure if the Shtora System will ever be inducted for the T-72.

Vikkie14:
War is not in the number but the tactics and doctrine deployed.
*The Isaelis can deal with any threat. In a war scenario with Egypt, Israel will surely triumph because most of their equipments are locally built and are suited to their requirement.
*They still get one of the best soldiers in the ME and can muster their citizens to fight....that's the loyalty that you can't find in Egypt. Most(if not ALL) Israelis went through military training and there's this lovea nd respect that every citizens displayed to their armed forces.
*Israel is armed with Nukes(just incase everything is going south)
*You're not also considering that Israel still get one of the finest Air Defense System to deal with threats from Low-Medium-High levels.
*Israel IMO is the only country in the world that had a LIVE/ACTIVE battle testing station---palestine is the testing station for all their weapons, just like they used the few days war with Hamas to test the effectiveness, efficiency and efficacy of Iron Dome Batteries.
*One other leverage is that the Israelis won't be importing ammunitions(except for extreme situations) unlike their egyptian counterpart(though they too had a running complex but not on par with the israelis) as their military industrial complexes can sustain them in a war time.
Egypt will give the Isrealis a good fight but Israel will give them a bloody nose.
No one wants war because the citizens are the one that suffer most.

i love these part;-(can muster their citizens to fight)

Katyusha:
T-72s are fine. There are TONS of upgrade packages for the T-72. Am just not sure if the Shtora System will ever be inducted for the T-72.

i quite agree with you. but we can buy btw 200-300 units of T72s and 100-150 units of T90s for fire precision and superiority.

and we will be fine

Egypt's military has failed to exploit its Western
platforms, technology and combat doctrine and poses virtually no threat to Israel, a new study said.

The study by Tel Aviv University's Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies
asserted that Egypt's military continues to operate under the same Soviet
combat and training doctrine as that during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. Egypt fought the 1973 war with Soviet advisers and weapons. "It [Egypt] is an army that has changed its characteristics, from Eastern to Western platforms," Shlomo Brom, a senior researcher at the
center, said. "But when you see how the army operates, there has been no change."

Egypt, with a force of 450,000 soldiers, about 75 percent of whom
comprise the ground forces, has largely replaced its Soviet arsenal with
U.S. platforms and weapons. Egypt has an air force fleet of about 220 F-16s, 800 M1A1 main battle tanks, Apache attack helicopters and Hawk anti-aircraft batteries -- all procured since 1980.

But the report said Egypt, which receives $1.3 billion in annual U.S.
military aid, has failed to implement the Revolution in
Military Affairs [RMA], meant to exploit the Western superiority in
precision-guided weapons, intelligence and command and control. As a result, Egypt -- despite obtaining many of the same platforms acquired by Israel --has been unable to optimize its battlefield force.

these are my own casualty figures ; I doubt if any sane Egyptian leader would attempt such move but you never can tell ......

Israel- 7000 dead, 20000 wounded. 300 tanks destroyed, 15 planes shot down.

Egypt- 45000 dead, 120000 wounded. 800 tanks destroyed, practically any aircraft that took up shot down.

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bidexiii:


i quite agree with you. but we can buy btw 200-300 units of T72s and 100-150 units of T90s for fire precision and superiority.

and we will be fine

300~450 units are u going to war .

even UK MBT is not up to dat amount.
40 T90 n 80 T72 is enough.

pls let's try to be realistic

giles14:
300~450 units are u going to war .
even UK MBT is not up to dat amount. 40 T90 n 80 T72 is enough.
pls let's try to be realistic

We need Tanks to replace our old fleet. 240 T-90s only. A T-72 isn't required.

Henry240:


We need Tanks to replace our old fleet. 240 T-90s only. A T-72 isn't required.

u knw d T90 is very expensive n its goona cost us roughly close to $1bn for the ordinary T90 + spare parts and its armaments

giles14:
300~450 units are u going to war .

even UK MBT is not up to dat amount.
40 T90 n 80 T72 is enough.

pls let's try to be realistic

Seriously.......you make me crack by ribs

In the north east theatre only we have over 150 deployed MBT consisting of vickers,t72 and other forms of light wheeled and tracked tanks.

Countries that are not up to Nigeria military and economy are buying t72s in large quantity, Uganda will soon boast of over 100units of t90s you are there saying 40+80 units of t90 & t72s is enough, are you only buying to fight BHT or for future eventuality. You are here on these thread and others and yet you say such words.

Such procurement means we aren't learnt from our past mistakes and these is what is affecting us seriously are procurement power is very disappointing.

And who told you UK MBT is not up to that amount, why must you compare yourself with UK. His UK fighting a war, does UK has the same population and land area as Nigeria. Mate that's a wrong comparison/yard stick to compare with.

And I tell you we can afford it.

giles14:
u knw d T90 is very expensive

240 T-90 MBT, that's what we need. 2.5 - 3 million per unit is not expensive. Especially when you consider the cost would be spread out over a number of years.


The T-90 has proven it's strong mettle in Syria, going back to T-72s should not be an option for us.

Henry240:


We need Tanks to replace our old fleet. 240 T-90s only. A T-72 isn't required.

God bless u mate. Nothing shot of MBT of that figure.

giles14:
u knw d T90 is very expensive n its goona cost us roughly close to $1bn for the ordinary T90 + spare parts and its armaments

1 billion dollars is small money, it's because our governments have proven to be utterly hopeless and useless over the years, that's why it seems like "small money", seems big.

Spread 1 billion dollars over 5 years, tell me again that we can't afford that?


What we need is 250 T-90s, then we completely retire all our old Tanks. Add 150 - 170 units of IFV. We buy IFVs from South-Africa, a plan that should include local build of 60% of the units. Again, you spread the cost.