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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by goodnews201668: 10:07am On Nov 13, 2016
officialfestus:
I hate jehovah witness people with passion.....jezz especially the man @ my house very wicked and useless to the whole neighborhood(i gave him 10k last week and this week he denied me of giving him that money)

Really? Hate them more!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:10am On Nov 13, 2016
[quote author=solite3 post=50954198][/quote]
modify the post so I can respond!, also endeavor to respond to the questions and issues asked!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:16am On Nov 13, 2016
brocab:
I am so glad I don't believe in your doctrine.
With the many confused statements you have written-it seems, not even you have studied your own doctrine clearly.

1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

2. pls respond to the issues raised in that post, stop running away from them:
"You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse: 
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:25am On Nov 13, 2016
brocab:
And your lies are travelling across the nations, to the place called Hell, where someday you may spend eternity.
{Psalms 83:16-18} Sounds better O lord..
Dolphinheart how many times do we need to show you scriptures-and which bible I use? Have we not been using the KJV in all our comments?
And not the New World Translation bible-thank God for that-the NWT Bible is full of twisted scriptures { Other words it's full of lies and wonders}

1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it,
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:47am On Nov 13, 2016
solite3:



]that is your own understanding, [/b]the verse never said so!, note the verse only identifies the father as the only true God, it did not say God is the only true God. The verse also separates the person of jesus from the father! @bold my understanding? Is this below my understanding also?
These are my own words, even though they are true, why do I find them in your post when I quote you?

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

This verse has completely expose you.
We will know if this is true after you have answered the questions about God being in the midst of God's , about Pauls statement of God's in heaven!

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;[b[b]] I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.[[/b]/b]

And this is dolphinheart statement below

their are other God's apart from the Almighty God.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Jehovah said there is know other God besides him.
Dolphineart is just like his father the devil who twist Jehovah's word.
Your father would be proud of you dolphinheart.

John 8:44 [color=#990000]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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why are you afraid to answer the questions raised, cus it will show how wrong you are!

The verse also corresponds with all the other verses in the scriptures where jesus and the disciples identified the father as the one God, as their God and the only true God. And if Jehovah is the only true God what does that make other so called gods?
I don't understand you, why do you mix my own words with yours?.

1. Are you saying God is in the midst of false God's? Jehovah is not in the midst of other gods.
Ps 82:1God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods he judges:
explain the above verse!

check this out:
De 10:17 For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the God great, mighty, and awe-inspiring, who treats none with partiality and does not accept a bribe.
Is Jehovah a God of false God's? answer : NO!, So who are the gods that Jehovah is a God of?

2. cus stating the disciples statement in full will expose you, so you cut off who they identified as the one God? they said : there is actually to us one God, the Father! actually it exposes you cause you are the one who said there are other gods beside the father.
what a shame?
so the father alone is the only true God, pls pls pls, follow it, it is true!, don't add another person to the true God!

The father is the one God jesus and the disciples worship, that means your one God is different from the one God of the disciples. And yet the father called Jesus God.
these are my words and they are true!

We also know that jesus is the mediator between us and that one God, always pleading for us at the side of that one God!, so jesus is not that one God!
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, òa man, Christ Jesus,
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.
Almighty god is not at the right hand of himself pleading to himself! stop the false derived teachings solite3. And yet that same Jesus is the most high.
So pathetic you keep referring to Jesus as a man and yet you think he is an angel. Blindman
most parts of the quote above are mine, jesus is not the God is is sitting beside , jesus does not plead with himself , jesus is not the mediator to himself!
No verse in the scriptures ever said jesus is the most high!


so which heaven was that verse talking about?
who did that verse identify as our God?
who did jesus identify as the only true God?
Note, refusal to answer these questions will end our discussion for a while. hahahaha.
blindman
like I said, this ends our discussion, you refuse to answer questions posted to you.

pls confirm if the following answers are right or wrong, your refusal to confirm means they are right
1. did jesus say he and the father are one God?
2. Did jess request that his disciples be one just as he and the father are one? Yes
3. does the disciples being one mean they are one person or human? No
4. did jesus request that the disciples become one with him and the father? Yes
5. Does this mean they become God? no?
6. does this mean they become one God or part of the persons in one god? No Jesus is God.
Ans
1.yes Jesus implied that he and his father is one God.
The Jesus did not correct the people when they said he is claming equality with God.
2. No Jesus did not request his disciples to be one but prayed to his father to make them one and to the best of my knowledge there is nothing God cannot do.

3.to be one can mean one entity. The disciple where one creature!

4.Jesus did request for the disciples to be one with he and his father.
1. so jesus did not say he and the father are one God, but you claim he implied it( which is still wrong when you consider other instances where jesus made similar statements)
Are you sure jesus was not correcting them when he explained what he said, he said he is God's son, not that he is equal to God!, if jesus is equal to God, then it means jesus is not God, but someone else equal to God! your arguments keep on failing when scrutinised .
If I'm equal to you, it automatically means I AM NOT YOU!.

2.You are a very dubious person , always cutting the important parts that expose you off.
so his prayer was not a request, pls tell me what it is?
you are quick to cut what jesus requested(or prayed ) for off, what did jesus pray for , that his disciples become one just as him and the father are one. Does this mean that jesus is implying that they become One God? pls answer o!
You say their is nothing impossible for God to do, are you saying that when God's accepts jesus prayer, he will make the disciples almighty God too?

3. The question was quite simple and straight forward, but dubious behavior will not allow you respond straight, I asked you : does the disciples being one mean that they are one person or human? are the disciples one person or human when they become one?

4. look at your answer to question 2 and 4 and see how dubious you are, now pls what happened to 5 and 6, will wait for you answer those ones too if we are to continue this discussion!



IF THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS ARE CORRECT, THEN IT MEANS BEING ONE WITH ANOTHER DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE ONE PERSON, ONE GOD OR ONE ENTITY!


The shame is on you, cus you could not agree with the scriptures that the father is the only true God. actually shame on the man who said there are other gods besides Jehovah and shame on the man who called satan God.
answer to your question: jesus , and the angels . They are all spirits!, they are called god, gods.
shame on the one who called angels gods.

@bold where is that in the bible?
satan witness
American Standard Version
For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor.
King James version
Ps 8:5For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

before you start a blind argument , take time to look at the Hebrew word translated to " angels" by the kjv and look up how they used it in other verses!

furthermore, one of your arguing points is that the son of man is man, the son of God is God, well angels are called Sons of God too, deal with that issue:
King James Version
Ge 6:2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them.
Job 38:7When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?

being abusive with the use of derogatory words will not stop me from asking you to answer the question!
who is the God of this world as mentioned in 2 cor 4:4? telling you the truth is an abuse?
That's right using capital letter G for satan but using small letter g for Jesus.
Your god dolphinheart is Satan.
Stop being evasive, answer the question, who is the god of these system of things?
I've told you who my God is, he is the father , and the father alone, not a three in one God!


[s]simple question , you prefer to rant than to answer![/s] dolphinheart child of the devil and enemy of the gospel.

Repent or perish!

answer the questions and stop being dubious

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:19pm On Nov 13, 2016
I'm not interested. You a lair and the truth is not in you.
The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.
Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.
Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.
Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"
No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.
God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.
The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages
Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.
First answer the truth?
dolphinheart:


1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it,
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!


Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:45pm On Nov 13, 2016
dolphinheart:
[quote author=dolphinheart post=50999651]

1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it,
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!


Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:26pm On Nov 13, 2016
johnw74:


lie lie dolphinheart

false accuser, just look at your continual confusion and lies


I said "you cannot produce quotes where you factually showed that Jehovah doesn't mean God"
and you replied "I never said Jehovah means the name of God!," ha ha you use every means you can think of to lie oh big false accuser

and of course you couldn't produce the quote talked about, because there isn't one, you do the lying and then falsely accuse of lying, don't you false jw copycat
before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by  6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!

I said "Strongs dictionary doesn't say a lot of things but it did show:
Jehovah means the self existent
"
Good, then listen to others who tell you more about Jehovah and go about formulating theories the dictionary did not tell you.
It is a fact that the Strongs dictionary never said
1. Jehovah means God" or
3. "self existant means God"

You lie lie replied "the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!"
The strong dictionary never made that statement

false jw your confusion in your every post is caused by your lying in your every post.
yet you could not point to one place I lied

duh, Jehovah is "the" name for God-Jehovah is "a" name for God,
Yahweh is "the" name for God, Yahweh is "a" name for God,
I AM is "the" name for God, I AM is "a" name for God, and there are more
saying Jehovah is a name for God is correct,
if a dictionary doesn't explain it all then you are lost,
you cannot think for yourself, and you are so confused
your lies that you argue about are to run away from the subject "Jehovah means God"
continue in your self formulated theory , I'll prefer to follow the concensus( which the KJV is part of) that Jehovah/yahweh/YHWH is the name of God!

an example, sure, I will give you more than one, you twist what is said, you change the subject, you play on words and use every means to lie and avoid the truth just like your god does,
you wan't to see them again, look back through my posts and see all the lies you tell, and all the methods you use to lie, I have pointed some out so it shouldn't be to hard for you,
also often when something is said you reply to something else, as in the start of this post,
such a lie lie, you think of all the ways to lie, oh great lie lie.
pls give an example!

[qoute]Yes you edited your post, there was no typo there, you either came to the same conclusion as me and when I pointed it out you changed it, or you agreed with me in your confused and lying state[/quote]
You can worry about why I edited it all you want, I know I did not add a particular word, and I've added it!


"that jehovah is the only self existant God"
those are my words not a dictionarys, you such a lie lie
mind you, you are so confused through lying and cannot tell what is mine and what is the dictionarys hee hee

Good that you agreed with me that the dictionary you quoted never said "Jehovah is the only self existant God."

no it won't and you still haven't learnt that

and truly Jehovah is the only self existent God,
and truly you have been saying Jehovah doesn't mean God, what a huge lie lie false accuser you are
No source you have presented ever said the underlined above, then they come from your confused mind , you have not presented anyone else who made that statement!

oh confused one try and understand what I said, it's very straight forward with no twisting like you practise, here it is again:
"by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent."

so tell me confused one,
is one of these sentences false:

Jehovah is the self existent?
Jehovah mean the self existent?

you are so used to lying, twisting what is said, changing the subject etc etc that you
cannot understand plain honest language, it is foreign to you
simple question, yet you refuse to answer :
"I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!"


ha ha oh confused lie lie accuser, God said His name is YHWH,
God is also called Almighty God and LORD, and other,
a word can be both a title and a name

He also said His name is I AM

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 

I AM also is a name for God, lie lie

Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be"wink, for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........
[/b]
* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.


HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME


ha ha you keep showing that you have no understanding at all oh false accuser



ha ha your confusion is unbelievable.
you are changing the subject again, it's Jehovah means God

and yes I will show you again in my next post to you
simple request, provide the source of your statement.

whenever I say Jehovah means God, you often reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
now we all know that, so if you were not meaning that Jehovah means the name of God
then why was that your reply oh deceiving one
imagine, so your accusations against me is based on derived understand of what I said, the truth is that I never said so but you choosed to understand it so!, your wrong understand is only possible cus you are quite to omit my comMon reply : "Jehovah does not mean God" .

duh that's what I have been doing and what you don't understand
replying with lies confusion twisting and all means of lying available to you.
if you have you should have seen that the Hebrew word for God is different from the Hebrew word for Jehovah!

It's true false jw, I have never come across a bigger lie lie than you in all of N/forums

what kind of proof do you want me to produce?
just show one instance that I lied with proof

ha ha you only have to go to the top of this post where I showed that you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
and to which you replied: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,

then you lie lie said: pls pls stop lying against me!

you way big false accuser lie lie dolphinheart, just like your god satan


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36
so what the lie there, at no point did I say " Jehovah does not mean the name of God" , if I ever maDe that statement , pls show where I said it, quote me and tell me the post you quoted.


you lie lie only believe the few words given in the dictionary, that's everything you think
the dictionary doesn't say exactly "Jehovah means God" in it's few words of meaning, so it doesn't, duh

you cannot think for yourself and are taught to believe what your church of satan tells you
you believe what men tell you through the witchpower magazine
you lie, accuse, twist, and do everything that your father satan does, who is a liar and the father of it
you have been taught and learned well your false doctrines, and is why you are confused with truth and why the truth is not in you.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
good that you agreed that the dictionaries did not say " Jehovah means God", those who fomulated false teachings from their minds without recourse to the scriptures as guide are those who thought that Jehovah means God!,

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:37pm On Nov 13, 2016
brocab:

1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it, 
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by chiwendu123(f): 4:09pm On Nov 13, 2016
Arguing and defending what you don't know,now I have questions for d JW concerning you belief
1 did you want to tell me that God does not know grammar in Genesis 1:26 he said let us make man can one be us? pls explain what john 1:1-3 ljohn 5:7there are three that bear record in heaven the father,word and the spirit and these are one

2 you say the meek will inherit d earth according to Mathew 5:5 who are the meek and which earth are u going to inherit?

3 in the same chapter of mathew 5 kingdom of God was mentioned many times and hell also

4 you believe 144000 will go to heaven what about the uncountable number from all nations,kindred,tongue that stood before s throne in the same chapter of revelation 7:9-15

5 you have been arguing on this thread about the name of God if I may ask is there any judgments for those that don't call Jehovah, God has many names when God told Moses he said tell pharaoh iam that iam has sent him and in revelation he said iam alpha and omega and many other names. You call Jehovah and he answer you I call him Lord, God and he answer me what is d stress. so he has many names call him the one you want.

Yes you go about preaching is good but if may ask what is the content of your message condemning other religion's doctrine, and events, telling stories but christ told his followers to preach the kingdom of God and repentance of sin

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:28pm On Nov 13, 2016
Explain why you refuse to answer the truth-Jehovah's name was mixed together and made up from all different Languages-and it is not the Divine name for God. Prove me wrong-please explain?
Are you still on the old subject of the Hell theory, and I have already told you, I read the KJV-what other KJV's is their? {Psalms 83:18} will be a breeze, from which bible? Most bibles call Him LORD, the old King James bible calls Him Jehovah, the NKJV calls him Lord-but never God-like the JW's call Jehovah God-this verse alone proves Jehovah's name isn't God's Divine name..
Come on Dolphinheart you believe you can answer almost anything-tell the world-why the JW's call God Jehovah?
{The evidence prevails I want to hear the truth come straight out of the horses mouth, from you, the truth is the Jehovah Witnesses had chosen to please Man, Not God.}
And yet the Hebrews were afraid to call God by His name {Exodus 20:7} but the Jehovah witnesses shows no remorse?
Now its time to stop running away-answer this page.
The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.
Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.
Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.
Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"
No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.
God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.
The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages
Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.
dolphinheart:


1. Tell us what goes to hell, the body, spirit or soul , the three mentioned or two of the three?
2. quote pslams 83: 18 from your bible here, why are you afraid to quote it, 
3. We know their are different versions with the name KING JAMES VERSION affixed to it, pls tell us which one you use, don't be afraid!
4. You accused me of saying " jehovah is not the name of God" , pls show where I said so!

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:33pm On Nov 13, 2016
The problem is the JW's don't hear from God-by any name-their claims only of those of the 144 000 hear from God.
They don't believe in the Spirit of God-nor will they believe you have the Spirit of God.
You calling Lord and He answers you-and they Call Him Jehovah and without them having the Spirit of God, God is silent to them.
That's the difference..
chiwendu123:
Arguing and defending what you don't know,now I have questions for d JW concerning you belief
1 did you want to tell me that God does not know grammar in Genesis 1:26 he said let us make man can one be us? pls explain what john 1:1-3 ljohn 5:7there are three that bear record in heaven the father,word and the spirit and these are one

2 you say the meek will inherit d earth according to Mathew 5:5 who are the meek and which earth are u going to inherit?

3 in the same chapter of mathew 5 kingdom of God was mentioned many times and hell also

4 you believe 144000 will go to heaven what about the uncountable number from all nations,kindred,tongue that stood before s throne in the same chapter of revelation 7:9-15

5 you have been arguing on this thread about the name of God if I may ask is there any judgments for those that don't call Jehovah, God has many names when God told Moses he said tell pharaoh iam that iam has sent him and in revelation he said iam alpha and omega and many other names. You call Jehovah and he answer you I call him Lord, God and he answer me what is d stress. so he has many names call him the one you want.

Yes you go about preaching is good but if may ask what is the content of your message condemning other religion's doctrine, and events, telling stories but christ told his followers to preach the kingdom of God and repentance of sin

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:23am On Nov 14, 2016
dolphinheart:

before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by  6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!


Good, then listen to others who tell you more about Jehovah and go about formulating theories the dictionary did not tell you.
It is a fact that the Strongs dictionary never said
1. Jehovah means God" or
3. "self existant means God"


The strong dictionary never made that statement


yet you could not point to one place I lied


continue in your self formulated theory , I'll prefer to follow the concensus( which the KJV is part of) that Jehovah/yahweh/YHWH is the name of God!


pls give an example!

[qoute]Yes you edited your post, there was no typo there, you either came to the same conclusion as me and when I pointed it out you changed it, or you agreed with me in your confused and lying state
You can worry about why I edited it all you want, I know I did not add a particular word, and I've added it!


"that jehovah is the only self existant God"
those are my words not a dictionarys, you such a lie lie
mind you, you are so confused through lying and cannot tell what is mine and what is the dictionarys hee hee

Good that you agreed with me that the dictionary you quoted never said "Jehovah is the only self existant God."

no it won't and you still haven't learnt that

and truly Jehovah is the only self existent God,
and truly you have been saying Jehovah doesn't mean God, what a huge lie lie false accuser you are
No source you have presented ever said the underlined above, then they come from your confused mind , you have not presented anyone else who made that statement!

oh confused one try and understand what I said, it's very straight forward with no twisting like you practise, here it is again:
"by the way the Strongs dictionary gives meaning to the word Jehovah,
according to Strongs, Jehovah means the self existent,
lie lie changes it to Jehovah "is" the self existent,
and whereas that also is true, lie lie trys to evade that Jehovah also means the self existent,
not just is the self existent, but means the self existent."

so tell me confused one,
is one of these sentences false:

Jehovah is the self existent?
Jehovah mean the self existent?

you are so used to lying, twisting what is said, changing the subject etc etc that you
cannot understand plain honest language, it is foreign to you
simple question, yet you refuse to answer :
"I wonder how you understand what you wrote, the dictionary also , Imediately after that, in the same sentence says "Jewish national name of God", are you saying jehovah means that too!"


ha ha oh confused lie lie accuser, God said His name is YHWH,
God is also called Almighty God and LORD, and other,
a word can be both a title and a name

He also said His name is I AM

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 

I AM also is a name for God, lie lie

Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be"wink, for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........
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* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.


HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME


ha ha you keep showing that you have no understanding at all oh false accuser



ha ha your confusion is unbelievable.
you are changing the subject again, it's Jehovah means God

and yes I will show you again in my next post to you
simple request, provide the source of your statement.

whenever I say Jehovah means God, you often reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
now we all know that, so if you were not meaning that Jehovah means the name of God
then why was that your reply oh deceiving one
imagine, so your accusations against me is based on derived understand of what I said, the truth is that I never said so but you choosed to understand it so!, your wrong understand is only possible cus you are quite to omit my comMon reply : "Jehovah does not mean God" .

duh that's what I have been doing and what you don't understand
replying with lies confusion twisting and all means of lying available to you.
if you have you should have seen that the Hebrew word for God is different from the Hebrew word for Jehovah!

It's true false jw, I have never come across a bigger lie lie than you in all of N/forums

what kind of proof do you want me to produce?
just show one instance that I lied with proof

ha ha you only have to go to the top of this post where I showed that you said Jehovah doesn't mean God
and to which you replied: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,

then you lie lie said: pls pls stop lying against me!

you way big false accuser lie lie dolphinheart, just like your god satan


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36
so what the lie there, at no point did I say " Jehovah does not mean the name of God" , if I ever maDe that statement , pls show where I said it, quote me and tell me the post you quoted.


you lie lie only believe the few words given in the dictionary, that's everything you think
the dictionary doesn't say exactly "Jehovah means God" in it's few words of meaning, so it doesn't, duh

you cannot think for yourself and are taught to believe what your church of satan tells you
you believe what men tell you through the witchpower magazine
you lie, accuse, twist, and do everything that your father satan does, who is a liar and the father of it
you have been taught and learned well your false doctrines, and is why you are confused with truth and why the truth is not in you.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

good that you agreed that the dictionaries did not say " Jehovah means God", those who fomulated false teachings from their minds without recourse to the scriptures as guide are those who thought that Jehovah means God!,

dolphinheart:

before you confuse your self go and look at your post that you posted by 6:13pm On Nov 06, in that post you stated: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha"

Now the issue is , did dolphinheart make such statement? The answer is no , johnw74 false accuse dolphinheart of making that statement! he could also not provide where he saw dolphinheart make such statement.
dolphinheart request that such lies should be retracted! good Christians don't make false accusations!


ha ha such a deceiver, I already told you that sentence is mine and not yours
but you love to lie and falsely accuse repeatedly, it's what you know and do best
and again I addressed your false accusations completely,
of course you did say Jehovah does not mean God
and when I post "Jehovah means God", and you reply with "Jehovah is the name of God"
I asked you: If you don't mean "jehovah means the name of God" then what do you mean by those replies?
of course you never answered back lie lie, just done your usual lying, false accusing, etc.

and I explained it all, go back and look at it again false jw,
all you can do is repeat your same lies, which you do over and over again taking after your god.
I understand that your repeated lies and false accusations etc. are all you have, and is all we get from you,
because they are all your father gives you




lie lie dolphinheart

of course your post right from the word go is the same old repeated lies over and over again from you, with confusion, false accusing, deceiving, and using every means taught by satan to lie, those are the only kind of things you know

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


[quote author=dolphinheart post=50952205

Then provide the source of your statement if it's not to alter what has been shown to you that jehovah is the name of God!
/quote]


poor false jw your confusion is unbelievable,
yes I will give my source again which I gave right from the start and which does not
alter the fact that Jehovah is the name of God, duh

H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521

lie lie, there is my source, Jehovah means self existent(adjective), Jehovah means the self existent(noun)

of course Jehovah being the only self existent "means" he is God
Jehovah means God,
but not to lie lie dolphinheart

and that's the subject which you keep changing, the subject you keep running away from.




and now false jw, a little more explanation of my source, as you have no understanding of it yourself:


Jehovah
H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


lie lie, you think that what the dictionary say's, is all there is to describing Jehovah,
I could add much to what the dictionary says and it would be true, for instance I could add "(the) everlasting" and I could add "the one true God" and I could add "God" and much more, but you have no knowledge and think the few words from the dictionary say's it all
Truly Jehovah means God

however your jehovah is a false jehovah and not God, and there in lies your confusion.
false jw is everything that is false: false doctrines, false jehovah, false prophecies, false jesus etc.


God
H430
אֱלֹהִים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Total KJV occurrences: 2601

and so Lie lie, you would also think that is all there is to describing God, but I could add "the most High" and I could add "(the) self existent" I could add "Jehovah" and much more and it would be true as well.
You are so used to only believing what your elders through the witchpower magazine tell you,
that you think the few words that is written in a dictionary describing Jehovah is all there is, duh

Jehovah means the self existent, in return the self existent means Jehovah
if the self existent means Jehovah, then the self existent means God, unless God is not the same self existent
as Jehovah is

Jehovah means the self existent
God means the self existent

Jehovah means God, simple, but not for the blinded

2Co 4:3  But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 
2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 




according to your posts lie lie, Jehovah is the name of God, and that's all you can say, besides of course all of your lie lies, false accusations, twisting, changing the subject, confusion, etc.

by the way lie lie, Jehovah is "a" name of God, is true also, except for the oh great blinded one

lie lie, you argue at great length with all that satan gives you to try and show that
Jehovah doesn't mean God smiley

and you also argue at great length with all that satan gives you to try and show that "Jehovah is a name of God", is not true cheesy


And you lie lie dolphinheart certinally do unashameably use every means known to twist and lie,
like a bad little son of satan should.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:57pm On Nov 14, 2016
dolphinheart:


Excerpts from the Wikipedia(read carefully,expecially the underlined)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPS among others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14). It is one of the most famous verses in the Torah. Hayah means "existed" in Hebrew; ehyeh is the first person singular imperfect form and is usually translated in English Bibles as "I am" or "I will be" (or "I shall be"wink, for example, at Exodus 3:14. Ehyeh asher ehyeh literally translates as "I Am Who I Am." The ancient Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 lacks a future tense as modern English does, yet a few translations render this name as "I Will Be What I Will Be", given the context of Yahwehpromising to be with his people through their future troubles.......
........The word Ehyeh is considered by many rabbinical scholars to be a first-person derivation of the Tetragrammaton, see for example Yahweh..........

......The word AahYah is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is often translated as "I will be" – as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3 – or "I shall be," as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. [color=red]Used by God to identify himself in the burning bush, the importance placed on the phrase stems from the Hebrewconception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing)........
[/b]
* compare the above with the meaning with the dictionary use of the word " self existent or eternal"

[b]........... Some scholars state that the Tetragrammaton itself derives from the same verbal root, following a rabbinical interpretation of Exodus 3:14, but others counter that it may simply sound similar as intended by God........Whether the Holy Name (written as YHWH) is derived from AahYah or whether the two are individual concepts is a subject of debate among historians and theologians........
........In appearance, it is possible to render YHWH (יהוה) as an archaic third person singular imperfect form of the verb ahyah(אהיה) "to be" meaning, therefore, "He is". It is notably distinct from the root El, which can be used as a simple noun to refer to the creator deity in general, as in Elohim, meaning simply "God" (or gods). This interpretation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — AahYah "I am". Other scholars regard the triconsonantal root of hawah (הוה) as a more likely origin for the name Yahweh.[/u][/color][/b]
*hope you are understanding the relationship between the name jehovah/yaweh/ YHWH and " I am that I am/ I will be what I will be"

Now let's go back to the dictionaries and look again at the word " Jehovah"

[b]Elwell, Walter A. "Entry for 'Jehovah'". "Evangelical Dictionary of Theology". . 1997.
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [H] [S]
the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [adonai]) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews ( Exodus 6:2 Exodus 6:3 ). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, "Adonai" (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Leviticus 24:16 . The meaning of the word appears from Exodus 3:14 to be "the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God," the "I am that I am," a convenant-keeping God.(Compare Malachi 3:6 ; Hosea 12:5 ; Revelation 1:4 Revelation 1:8 .)


Dictionaries - Smith's Bible Dictionary - Jehovah
Jehovah [B] [E] [H]
(I am; the eternal living one ). The Scripture appellation of the supreme Being, usually interpreted as signifying self-derived and permanent existence. The Jews scrupulously avoided every mention of this name of God, substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel-points it may happen to be written. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of ( Leviticus 24:16 ) from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offence. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year, by the high priest on the day of atonement when he entered the holy of holies; but on this point there is some doubt. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name which he should give as the credentials of his mission: "And God said unto Moses, "I AM THAT I AM (ehyea asher ehyeh ); and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." That this passage is intended to indicate the etymology of Jehovah, as understood by the Hebrews, no one has ventured to doubt. While Elohim exhibits God displayed in his power as the creator and governor of the physical universe, the name Jehovah designates his nature as he stands in relation to man, as the only almighty, true, personal, holy Being, a spirit and "the father of spirits," ( Numbers 16:22 ) comp. John 4:24 who revealed himself to his people, made a covenant with them, and became their lawgiver, and to whom all honor and worship are due.[/b]

THEREFORE JOHNW74, GOD DID NOT GIVE MOSES TWO NAMES , BUT GAVE MOSES ONE NAME, " I AM THAT I AM" BEING AN ETYMOLOGY OF THAT NAME , THE VERSES SAY:

Ex 3:13But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
Ex 3:14So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’”
Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.


HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT GOD SAID " THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER " AND NOT THIS ARE MY NAMES FOREVER".

To support this , look at the song Moses sang with other Israelites who ye told God's name :
Ex 15:2My strength and my might is Jah, since he has become my salvation. This is my God, and I will praise him; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME



lie lie dolphinheart you go to great lengths to try and show that

"Jehovah doesn't mean God"

lie lie dolphinheart you go to great lengths to try and show that

"Jehovah is "a" name for God" is false

and false jw dolphinheart you have gone to great lengths to try and show that

"I AM" is not a name for God



Moses said to God: the children of Israel shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

God replied: say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Exo 3:13  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 
Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM(hayah) hath sent me unto you.

false jw dolphinheart produced other bible verses that typically have words removed and others added

"I AM"(hayah) is taken away from those verses and "I will become" a meaning for "I AM" is added

and why wouldn't false jw change it, they change much else
ie. they change "the Word was God" to "the Word was a god"

such evil

the names I AM(hayah) and Jehovah(YHWH) are diffrent, duh that's obvious, but false jw try and make them both say Jehovah



Pro 30:6  Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

we see the bible come true in lie lie dolphinheart, he is found to be a liar very often.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:41am On Nov 15, 2016
lie lie dolphinheart, I do agree with you that your false jw's jehovah doesn't mean God
your false jw jehovah means satan the devil

your false jehovah satan the devil, who teaches you that the Lord Jesus Christ is [u]a god]/u]
who teaches you to change God's inspired Bible, and to lie and accuse, that is your jehovah

however it's the true YHWH that I talk about, and the true YHWH does mean God
but you would not know that, how could you, you don't know Him.

I have been calling God Jehovah so as not to confuse you lie lie, but it hasn't worked smiley
confusion is your middle name
from now on I will call YHWH Yahweh, which is a lot more likely how YHWH is pronounced.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:24am On Nov 15, 2016
brocab:
I'm not interested. You a lair and the truth is not in you.
The word Jehovah is used only 7 times not only Jehovah is a name, it is also a place. God had many personal names-Jehovah is just one name, mixed together from all different languages. It is only the JW's who had added Jehovah's name throughout their bible.
Which is silly, you believe your bible is the only bible that exist-while the other bibles don't exist.
Your bible doesn't even hold the Spirit Of God-instead your bible had changed the Word Of God from the beginning to the end, your bible is unscriptural, it's a lie from the beginning-scholars that wrote your bible were men without God.
Most bibles don't even mention the name Jehovah-instead they called Him by His proper name "Lord God"
No-one is interested in your beliefs-other then the JW's, For a name that you believe is God's personal name-the bibles had surely made a mockery out from under you.
God has many names in English.
"I Am that I Am" is the name God had given to Moses.. You haven't shown any evidence to prove otherwise that God's only name is Jehovah.
The Telragramaton consist of 4 Hebrew letters "YODH-HE-WAW" And he repeated. Some versions of the bible translate the Telragrammaton as "Yehwah or Jehovah" Most translate it as "Lord" {All capital letters}
Contrary to what some Christians believe {And at least one cult} Jehovah is not the Divine Name revealed to Israel.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages
Due to fear of accidentally taken God's name in vain {Leviticus 24:16} The Jews quit saying it out loud altogether, instead of reading scripture aloud, the Jews substituted the Telragrammaton YHWH with the Word Adonai {Lord}.
You should read the bible sometime, or even better, study it? Instead of that comic book you call the Watchtowers magazine.
First answer the truth?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:27pm On Nov 15, 2016
chiwendu123:
Arguing and defending what you don't know,now I have questions for d JW concerning you belief
1 did you want to tell me that God does not know grammar in Genesis 1:26 he said let us make man can one be us? pls explain what john 1:1-3 ljohn 5:7there are three that bear record in heaven the father,word and the spirit and these are one
1.God knew what he was saying . When God said " let us make make man in our image" , he was not talking to himself , he was talking to other spirit creatures he used in the creation, for example the scriptures tells us that God used his son in the creation, he was God's master worker.
[b]King James Version
Heb 1:2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
*you can read from verse 1
* some translations say : " through whom".
The statement does not support trinity, for God is not talking to himself , and if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one God almighty. The believe that God is a multiple person is not plausible and the verse never surppoted such beliefs.

2. John 1: 1-3 helps us to understand that jesus was a god who was with the almighty God, that jesus had a beginning . You can't be the same person you are with !
3. The words you quoted about 1 John 5 :7 have been discovered to be false additions to the scriptures , and most subsequent translations have removed it, knowing it is false , the correct translations is : "For there are three witness bearers:" or " there are three that bear witness" .
Trinitarians who could not find a scripture that directly supports their doctrine and have been forced to only rely on derived analogy inserted those words, apostle John never said those words!

2 you say the meek will inherit d earth according to Mathew 5:5 who are the meek and which earth are u going to inherit?
Jehovahs witnesses did not say the meek ones will inherit the earth , the scriptures said so, and Im of the view that you accept, agree and belief what the scriptures said!
Ps 37:9For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.
Ps 37:11[u]But the meek will possess the earth,[/u] And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

The residence will not be temporary , it will be forever:
[b]Ps 37:29The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.


they will be upright and blameless :
Pr 2:21For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless will remain in it

Like you read in verse 9, the meek ones are those who loyally serve Jehovah to the end! either the end of their lives or the end of this wicked system of things.
The earth is reffering to this planet earth, Jehovah created it for a purpose and he will fulfil that purpose :
Isa 45:18For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, [u]but formed it to be inhabited:
“I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
Mt 5:5“Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth.
Re 21:3With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.


For this to be true , the earth will not be destroyed but will remain forever :
Ec 1:4A generation is going, and a generation is coming, But the earth remains forever

Ps 78:69He made his sanctuary as enduring as the heavens, Like the earth that he has established forever.
Ps 104:5He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever.
Ps 119:90Your faithfulness is through all generations. You have firmly established the earth, so that it continues to stand.


3 in the same chapter of mathew 5 kingdom of God was mentioned many times and hell also
The translation of gehenna as hell has caused a lot of issues, most interesting is the use of that verse by those who believe in hell fire.
let me ask you, do you believe that a human body can go to hell?, Think carefully about the answer, already most people who posted on these thread and who belief in hellfire do not think so!.

4 you believe 144000 will go to heaven what about the uncountable number from all nations,kindred,tongue that stood before s throne in the same chapter of revelation 7:9-15
They will inherit the earth, the ones going to heaven are going their for a purpose, to rule!, tell me, who do you think they are going to rule over if not the ones on earth.

5 you have been arguing on this thread about the name of God if I may ask is there any judgments for those that don't call Jehovah, God has many names when God told Moses he said tell pharaoh iam that iam has sent him and in revelation he said iam alpha and omega and many other names. You call Jehovah and he answer you I call him Lord, God and he answer me what is d stress. so he has many names call him the one you want.
be sincere, pls tell me, of all the above , which one did he directly and explicitly tell you that "that is my name" . when you find that out, in whatEva language it is, pls use it! For those who call on the name ( not names) of God will be saved!, so go look up the scriptures and find out God's name( the one he directly told you)

Yes you go about preaching is good but if may ask what is the content of your message condemning other religion's doctrine, and events, telling stories but christ told his followers to preach the kingdom of God and repentance of sin
Jehovah , seeks the meek ones, those who search for truth, to show them the truth, one also has to show as explain to them the false teachings, so that they can make a decisive choice, either to follow the truth or to believe man made philosophies that comes from derived analogy!

I've shown you what the scriptures say, some will tell you not to follow it , but will not give you an alternative, they will not reveal where they gather to worship or the legal name of the congregation/church they gather at, they will not even invite you to come to their gatherings.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:06pm On Nov 15, 2016
He is, hating them more.
goodnews201668:


Really? Hate them more!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:05pm On Nov 15, 2016
dolphinheart:


1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

2. pls respond to the issues raised in that post, stop running away from them:
"You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse: 
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."
You Have provided me with plenty of evidence, "and that you worship a God you don't even know" {The Unknown God}
'Jehovah isn't the name given to God, Jehovah is Lord, a pre-existence body, He was living before time began.
{John 17:5} Jesus said "Now Father, Glorify Me in Your presence with the Glory, I had with you before the world existed..
{John 3:13, 6:33,38,62, 8:23, 16:28} Christ even said, He existed prior to Abraham's birth {John 8:58-59, John 1:2-3, Colossians 1:16-1, Galatians 4:4, Romans 8:3, 1John 1:2, Hebrews 1:2} Jesus is the Pre-existed God, from the beginning.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:24pm On Nov 15, 2016
dolphinheart:

1.God knew what he was saying . When God said " let us make make man in our image" , he was not talking to himself , he was talking to other spirit creatures he used in the creation,

You lie lie dolphinheart say, "show me where I lied", you never stop lying false jw, and there are more of your lies
God created man and all there is, no other spirit created anything, God and the Word is God, God and the Word created man.
You don't post scripture for other spirits other than God creating, because there isn't any,
it's just more lies from false jw.

dolphinheart:

if God was talking to another God, then it means their is more than one God almighty.

hyprochesy from you false jw, you believe that the Word is another god, a mighty god

also another lie from you lie lie dolphinheart, God was talking to the Word another person who is God, not to another god, John 1:1

both hyprochesy and lie from you lie lie dolphinheart in the same short sentence.




dolphinheart:

Jehovah , seeks the meek ones, those who search for truth,

Truly liars and false accusers etc. are not the meek ones
false jw are lambs when they come to peoples homes,
and as we see from you lie lie, they are wolves at other times.

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 
Mat 7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by rawdpiper(m): 6:36pm On Nov 15, 2016
Tho I'm A Muslim, I Love Jehova Witness With Passion. When I Was Young My Dad Had A Bedside Filled With Their Magazines(both Awake! And Watchtower). I Loved Reading Stories About The People That Survived The World War.Also Learned About World's Greatest Scientists Like Galileo, Newton Etc. There Was A Time I Was Given A Project On The History Of Planes, I Used Awake As A Guide. Most Of The General Knowledge I Learned Are From Awake!. Love Yot Guys So Much. Keep Up The Good Work

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:38pm On Nov 15, 2016
dolphinheart:


1. When you lay accusations, supply it with facts and proof! you have a preference of laying false accusations that you always run away from when asked to defend them!

2. pls respond to the issues raised in that post, stop running away from them:
"You are so full of lies, where did I say jehovah is not the name of God, 

pls tell , are these words found In your bible in these verse!. If not pls tell us the bible you use and post the words in the verse: 
King James Version
Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

When you accuse brocab of being so full of lies, you are clearly talking about yourself who is an habitual lie lie,
and the image of your father, oh accusing one

satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:45pm On Nov 15, 2016
dolphinheart:

just show one instance that I lied with proof

dolphinheart:


show where I have accused you falsely!



sure, here are just a few of many from you just recently:


johnw74: Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,



johnw74: Jehovah means the self existent

dolphinheart: the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!



johnw74: you said Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,
pls pls stop lying against me!


oh how you lie lie dolphinheart twist and lie, and then you add false accusing to your lying



ha ha you are blinded even to your lies, when you lie you are speaking naturally
oh how you love to twist and lie, falsely acccuse, and so much more, that stinks to hell

you lie lie ask for just one instance of you lying cheesy your posts are full of lies and all kinds of evil oh blinded one

one example of all kinds of evil:
it is evil and stinks to hell when you change God's word and say: the Word is "a god"

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 7:49pm On Nov 15, 2016
@Brocab you can do better than this. I(achorladey) know that. You could have provided (yes/no) answer to the question. Please, you are free to declare a full blown utimate search for your(brocab) lost soul.
Finally, you could atleast imitate your friend Solite3 who answered 'yes', typical of those who read the scriptures without reasoning. I rest my case again.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:41am On Nov 16, 2016
Well keep on resting your case JW..
achorladey:
@Brocab you can do better than this. I(achorladey) know that. You could have provided (yes/no) answer to the question. Please, you are free to declare a full blown utimate search for your(brocab) lost soul.
Finally, you could atleast imitate your friend Solite3 who answered 'yes', typical of those who read the scriptures without reasoning. I rest my case again.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:58am On Nov 16, 2016
[quote author=dolphinheart post=51051933]
1.God knew what he was saying . When God said " let us make make man in our image" , he was not talking to himself , he was talking to other spirit creatures he used in the creation, for example the scriptures tells us that God used his son in the creation, he was God's master worker.
So God was talking to other Spirits? Who are these Spirits Creatures used in the Creation? Please name them?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:25pm On Nov 16, 2016
If you were a Muslim, you wouldn't follow after another lie? And plus Allah-has nothing to do with the god's JW's believe in.
rawdpiper:
Tho I'm A Muslim, I Love Jehova Witness With Passion. When I Was Young My Dad Had A Bedside Filled With Their Magazines(both Awake! And Watchtower). I Loved Reading Stories About The People That Survived The World War.Also Learned About World's Greatest Scientists Like Galileo, Newton Etc. There Was A Time I Was Given A Project On The History Of Planes, I Used Awake As A Guide. Most Of The General Knowledge I Learned Are From Awake!. Love Yot Guys So Much. Keep Up The Good Work
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:28pm On Nov 16, 2016
Well if the Jehovah's believe He the self existed, then the Name Jehovah proves He is Jesus..{Lord}
What other proof do we need..
The JW's worship a God they don't even recognise {A unknown God}
johnw74:






sure, here are just a few of many from you just recently:


johnw74: Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,



johnw74: Jehovah means the self existent

dolphinheart: the strong dictionary never said self existent means God!



johnw74: you said Jehovah doesn't mean God

dolphinheart: I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,
pls pls stop lying against me!


oh how you lie lie dolphinheart twist and lie, and then you add false accusing to your lying



ha ha you are blinded even to your lies, when you lie you are speaking naturally
oh how you love to twist and lie, falsely acccuse, and so much more, that stinks to hell

you lie lie ask for just one instance of you lying cheesy your posts are full of lies and all kinds of evil oh blinded one

one example of all kinds of evil:
it is evil and stinks to hell when you change God's word and say: the Word is "a god"

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by rawdpiper(m): 8:16pm On Nov 16, 2016
brocab:
If you were a Muslim, you wouldn't follow after another lie? And plus Allah-has nothing to do with the god's JW's believe in.


see bros hen i no cum argue about religion for here, me just dey give my own opinion......dey well oooo
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:57pm On Nov 16, 2016
No-one is arguing about anything-If you were a Muslim-you wouldn't dare to turn your back on Allah-and worship other god's.
And if you believe JW's are your sauce of teachings, then be one. Because Allah haven't taught you anything..
And if Isis heard you-I am sure they would be pissed.
rawdpiper:



see bros hen i no cum argue about religion for here, me just dey give my own opinion......dey well oooo
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:06pm On Nov 16, 2016
More facts people should know about fales jw:
they believe the Holy Spirit is just God's power

the Holy Spirit isn't just God's power
the Holy Spirit is God

God is God and the Word, John 1:1
the Holy Spirit is God-God and the Word:

Joh 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:12am On Nov 17, 2016
^^^ more on that

Facts people should know about false jw:

They don't believe that the Holy Spirit is God, they believe the Holy Spirit is just God's power,
and not the personal God.
Of course they would know diffrently if they had the Holy Spirit of God living in them, but that will never be.



God and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


God is a Spirit:
Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


The Father is Spirit and is God, the Father is the Holy Spirit:
Joh_15:26  But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
^^^
Father is Spirit, the Holy Spirit proceedeth from Him.


The Word is Spirit and is God, the word is the Holy Spirit:
Joh_14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you
^^^
Jesus tells His disciples that the Spirit of Truth(the Holy Spirit) dwelleth with you
(it is He Jesus-the Word, that dwelleth with His disciples) Jesus further said in that verse that He shall be in you.
and Jesus adds:
Joh 14:18  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you 


Father and the word is Spirit and is God, Father and the Word is the Holy Spirit

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The Father and the Son are that same one Holy Spirit that believers call God, they are the Holy Spirit
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD



Psa 139:7  Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 
Psa 139:8  If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

God is Spirit, God is everywhere, not just His power is everywhere
Wherever God is, and that's everywhere, then of course His power also is everywhere,
but He lives only in believers.

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